***Buffalo at Kansas City*** (-1.5) 54u Mr Allen, Mr Mahomes, gentlemen...START...YOUR...ENGINES!!! (1 Viewer)

[zamboni]

Frazier just screwed himself out of any head coaching opportunities. You want that guy as your head coach?  Unreal. 13 seconds left!?  And their safeties were 30 yards deep paranoid about giving up the win, even though with deep safeties they just gave up a TD a minute ago anyway. 

On the flip side, Daboll is probably going to have his pick of the litter.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Was anyone watching the live betting odds?  How much did they change when KC won the coin toss?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Best game I've ever seen I think

Welll….it was exciting, but there was some REALLY BAD defense being played 

 

[The General]

9ers and Bengals. Darkest timeline.

Let’s call that plan b!

 

[jabarony]

They were fine allowing the first pass. For the second they should have tackled every WR at the snap. Take the 5 yard penalty and good luck with your Hail Mary. 

I’ve always favored this strategy c for years. And no one ever does it. I always want to see it when the offense is 1st and goal with 15. seconds left. Hug the wrs for 3 plays until the clock is near zero. Then they only get 1 chance at a TD instead of 3 or 4. 

 

[fred_1_15301]

Welll….it was exciting, but there was some REALLY BAD defense being played 

Should I have said “most exciting game”?

 

[BassNBrew]

Who cares about the overtime rules? This game never should have gotten to overtime. Inexcusable. The defense choked, but this loss is squarely on coaching and a host of bad coaching decisions made in the last 30 seconds robbed Josh Allen, the offense, and Bills fans of a trip to the AFCCG.

I don’t care about next year. That’s a long way away and there are a lot of good young up and coming teams in the AFC. Nothing is guaranteed and not winning now is a total and utter failure.

Yeah...but KC did the same thing.  Last QB with the ball wins.  KC didn't deserve the win any more and if the coin had landed on the other side I'm sure Josh would have found the end zone.

I know this is a gut punch as a Panthers fan that gifted the Pats one and choked vs Denver.  You've got a great team, unfortunately they are better enough to escape the luck factor.  Honestly the only failure I see is coming up short in some regular season games and this game not being in Buffalo.

 

[Zeppelin]

Frankly the kickoff shouldn't matter. They are at their own 25 with 13 seconds left. That should be good enough. You can't let them move into FG range in 2 plays no matter how great their offense is. 

 

[GroveDiesel]

Matt Milano getting beat by Kelce for the TD was a nice capper too. Milano and Edmunds were flat out awful all game and one of the biggest reasons the defense floundered. Neither could cover and both missed tons of tackles.

 

[Hov34]

Pathetic OT rules honestly. Thought that ever since have followed NFL. This is the worst example ever. You have 2 QBs throwing counter punch after counter punch then you dont even let one of them try and answer the call in OT 

Embarassing 

Defense is about half of the game. 

Not the way the NFL wants it.  They want offensive shootouts that come down to the last play of the game. They love this ####, yet still have stupid rules that only let one offensive team touch the ball in OT - all due to a coin flip.

 

[Man In The Box]

Welll….it was exciting, but there was some REALLY BAD defense being played 

I won’t totally disagree, but this was also QB play at the highest possible level. Both guys played like gods. 

 

[Boston]

Maybe in the 80's. Offense is about 90% of the game in today's rules.

You can take it further than that and say it is the QB...that game is the NFL's wet dream, all the rule changes over the years were designed to have that type of game.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Frankly the kickoff shouldn't matter. They are at their own 25 with 13 seconds left. That should be good enough. You can't let them move into FG range in 2 plays no matter how great their offense is. 

The kickoff aside, I agree.  Not sure what Frasier had his defense doing, but that was dreadful.  No one was even near Kelce on the play that put them in FG range. 

 

[The Frankman]

Disagree.  You can call for a fair catch and burn no time.

If you call fair catch inside the 20 you're screwed somewhat, which is why you kick it in the middle of the field inside the 10. You let the ball bounce and that's time off the clock.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Maybe we can get together with Browns, Chargers and Vikings fans and cry it out.

Sorry for your loss. Condolences. Take solace in knowing you have one of the best QBs anywhere, a generational talent, who undoubtedly will steward your team to a Super Bowl championship in the near future 

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Maybe we can get together with Browns, Chargers and Vikings fans and cry it out.

Don’t forget my pitiful Cowboys. 
 

We suck too.  :(

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

It really says a lot about KC when we're calling the decision to leave :13 TOO MUCH TIME

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Curious - why didn’t the Bills squib kick? Wouldn’t that have knocked another 3-4 seconds off?

 

[Dez]

We will probably never see a playoff weekend like we did this weekend ever again.

All 4 games ended on the final play.

 

[Man In The Box]

Okay seems a little high but fair enough 

Now -7

 

[Chaz McNulty]

They were fine allowing the first pass. For the second they should have tackled every WR at the snap. Take the 5 yard penalty and good luck with your Hail Mary. 

This is exactly what I was thinking.  I was also thinking it on the Bills previous drive when there was 30 seconds left at midfield.  Do it four times and it leaves them at the 30 yard line with one play left.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Curious - why didn’t the Bills squib kick? Wouldn’t that have knocked another 3-4 seconds off?

Probably scared of Tyreek.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

We will probably never see a playoff weekend like we did this weekend ever again.

All 4 games ended on the final play.

All games end on the final play.

But yeah, I know what you mean.

 

[Willie Neslon]

If Josh Allen just calls heads the bills win the SB

 

[SoBeDad]

I was at the Epic in Miami, a 41-38 overtime loss in a 1981 AFC divisional game to Dan Fouts and the Chargers, where Miami overcame a 24-0 deficit, and Kellen Winslow blocked a fg and had a then-record 13 receptions and fell exhausted on the field after the game. Fans at the Orange Bowl were standing for the entire 2nd half. This BUF-KC game is right up there.

 

[BassNBrew]

Youre kicking a line drive that’s gonna bounce on that kickoff. 

fair catch on a squib kick or a fair catch inside the 15?
 

ok….

Okay, so then the Chiefs are starting from their own 5 or 10 or wherever they fair catch the kickoff?  Kicking that ball into the end zone was a failure of biblical proportions. 

But 15 yards deeper

Maybe, maybe not.  Give Hill the ball in open space with no one around?   Did you guys see him waving bye to the guy 2 yards in front of him on the TD?  I remember more musical city miracles than teams drive 50 yards on 13 seconds.  

 

[modogg]

really feel for the Bills. feel strongly they need to change OT rules in the playoffs to college rules. losing because of a coin toss just sucks

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

All games end on the final play.

technically, yes. Like always finding something in the last place you look for it. 

 

[BassNBrew]

Curious - why didn’t the Bills squib kick? Wouldn’t that have knocked another 3-4 seconds off?

Clock doesn't start until the receiver has possession and makes a move up field.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Clock doesn't start until the receiver has possession and makes a move up field.

Right but you can’t fair catch it, so clock would run. 

 

[Steve Tasker]

 who undoubtedly will steward your team to a Super Bowl championship in the near future 

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Don’t forget my pitiful Cowboys. 
 

We suck too.  :(

Sorry man, you guys have way too many Lombardi trophies in the case for this pity party.

 

[The Duff Man]

As a Bills fan I am more mad at the defence and the 13 seconds. If you can’t stop them there you don’t deserve to complain about the overtime rules. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'll believe it when I see it.

I believe it. He’s that good. 

 

[BassNBrew]

Right but you can’t fair catch it, so clock would run. 

You can if you instantly give yourself up.

 

[Man In The Box]

Really brutal for Buffalo not to get a shot in OT, but let’s not go totally off the rails and implement the college rules. College OT isn’t even football. Just tweak it to allow both teams to touch the ball and be done with it. 

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I was at the Epic in Miami, a 41-38 overtime loss in a 1981 AFC divisional game to Dan Fouts and the Chargers, where Miami overcame a 24-0 deficit, and Kellen Winslow blocked a fg and had a then-record 13 receptions and fell exhausted on the field after the game. Fans at the Orange Bowl were standing for the entire 2nd half. This BUF-KC game is right up there.

That's the game I came up with as the only competition I could think of for this one.

Truly an all-timer tonight.

 

[WDIK2]

Weather was ok this weekend and I almost felt guilty staying inside and watching all 4 games.

I regret nothing.

 

[Boston]

Every single game I watch KC play I am fascinated by how many times Kelce is absolutely wide open.

 

[NutterButter]

Really brutal for Buffalo not to get a shot in OT, but let’s not go totally off the rails and implement the college rules. College OT isn’t even football. Just tweak it to allow both teams to touch the ball and be done with it. 

What, you don't like the single play from the 2 yard line ridiculousness?

 

[Steve Tasker]

I believe it. He’s that good. 

He's absolutely good enough to lead the team to the Super Bowl.  I don't believe the Bills will win a Super Bowl until I see it though.

 

[Hov34]

You can if you instantly give yourself up.

Fine then they have the ball at the 11 yard line instead of the 25. 

Should have squibed the kick. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Sorry man, you guys have way too many Lombardi trophies in the case for this pity party.

“Won’t someone take pity on America’s team that God hisself watches though the roof?” 

yeah, that ain’t a thing.  

 

[NutterButter]

I believe it. He’s that good. 

Marino was pretty good.  Disgruntled dolphins fan here.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You can if you instantly give yourself up.

Oh, ok - good point. 

 

[Todem]

Probably scared of Tyreek.

Very hard to set up a return on a squib. Very hard.

Regardless….13 seconds? Any semblance of defense and the game was over.

 

[Todem]

I believe it. He’s that good. 

Jim Kelly took them to 4 straight……it is not that easy to win it.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

We don't need CFB OT but we need some kind of OT reform.

My preferred change (1st team to 6 points wins) wouldn't have helped in this situation.

 

[GroveDiesel]

As a Bills fan I am more mad at the defence and the 13 seconds. If you can’t stop them there you don’t deserve to complain about the overtime rules. 

Yeah, it’s funny because non-Bills fans seem more upset about the overtime rules than Bills fans. Obviously I wish that the Bills had win the toss or had another chance, but the defense had to make a stop at some point and they just didn’t. And if you can’t make a stop when the opponent has it on their one 25 with 13 seconds left, then whining about overtime rules and that you didn’t get a shot is dumb.

 

[Hov34]

Really brutal for Buffalo not to get a shot in OT, but let’s not go totally off the rails and implement the college rules. College OT isn’t even football. Just tweak it to allow both teams to touch the ball and be done with it. 

Just play an entire 12 minute quarter.  If it's still tied play another 10 minute quarter.  If anyone is still alive then play a sudden death quarter.