jdoggydogg
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I'll send you a PM when I post next time so you don't miss any of my brilliancebenson_will_lead_the_way said:You add so much to the SP...I can't WAIT until your next post
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C.J. Spiller Hype(r) Train (1 Viewer)
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I know this is the NFL, and I know that Spiller didn't face nearly as many talented defensive players in college as he will in the NFL. But watching the film on this guy, I can't help but be amazed at his talent. It's like he's running at a completely different speed than anyone else on the field. And don't get me started on his cuts and change of direction. Brilliant.
Since there are very few RBs in the league that receive a huge percentage of their team's carries (Peterson, Johnson, Jackson, MJD, Gore, Turner, etc.) we know that most teams use at least two RBs the majority of the time. So there is no doubt that Fred Jackson (and perhaps Lynch) will be involved in this offense.
Still, I can't help but think that Spiller is going to be a solid #2 RB this year with a chance at a low #1 upside. If you look at Carolina, there you have two extremely talented RBs. But DeAngelo is still being drafted in the first 24 picks of most drafts. So even if Spiller only touches the ball 15 times a game, I can't help but think this guy has a shot to break a long TD every time he touches the ball.
Since there are very few RBs in the league that receive a huge percentage of their team's carries (Peterson, Johnson, Jackson, MJD, Gore, Turner, etc.) we know that most teams use at least two RBs the majority of the time. So there is no doubt that Fred Jackson (and perhaps Lynch) will be involved in this offense.
Still, I can't help but think that Spiller is going to be a solid #2 RB this year with a chance at a low #1 upside. If you look at Carolina, there you have two extremely talented RBs. But DeAngelo is still being drafted in the first 24 picks of most drafts. So even if Spiller only touches the ball 15 times a game, I can't help but think this guy has a shot to break a long TD every time he touches the ball.
gary mexico
Footballguy
I got sucked into the fbg hype bigtime this year. My main auction league i drafted best and spiller as my rb1 and rb2. Couldnt stop there, had to get finley as well...
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don't think it is really fair to compare Spiller and Williams. Williams has already had a 1500 yard 20 TD season, plus 3 straight seasons averaging 5.0 ypc.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I had Finley on my dynasty team last year and had to drop him due to massive injury problems on my rosterI got sucked into the fbg hype bigtime this year. My main auction league i drafted best and spiller as my rb1 and rb2. Couldnt stop there, had to get finley as well...
In my dynasty draft this year ($100 salary cap) I knew I wanted one of the big three (Matthews, Best, or Spiller). Another owner outbid me for Matthews ($31!!!) so I netted Spiller for only $11. Best went for a modest $17.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I agree. I didn't mean to imply that Spiller is as valuable as Williams. I think some people in this hobby obsess over drafting a guy who grabs the large majority of his team's carries. But unless you're drafting high in the first round, you can't get a guy like that. So my point was that Spiller can still net a bunch of fantasy points even if he's part of a platoon.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ok, I am with you. I think Spiller is actually a great value where he is going.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Spiller joins Best and Finley as this year's most hyped players. But quite frankly, how can you watch Spiller's game tapes and not get excited? The guy is a freak.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am actually buying the hype on all 3. I'd say the same thing about Best, every time he has touched the ball this preseason, he has looked electric.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yes, the Bills and the Lions have been terrible teams of late. But part of what makes bad teams turn good is electric players. Best and Spiller are electric players.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I got Spiller with the 62nd pick....I love that I was able to land him there, but considering I had the 11th of 12 picks and Jonathan Stewart is my RB1, I sure hope CJ lives up to the hype.
Consider me on board!
......and off topic, but this money league draft was on Yahoo, and they have Best at 26th overall now (he ended up being autopicked by 1 of the 2 people that didnt show). Since you can get Spiller 2 rounds or so later in most drafts, I think he's a huge value comparatively.
Consider me on board!
......and off topic, but this money league draft was on Yahoo, and they have Best at 26th overall now (he ended up being autopicked by 1 of the 2 people that didnt show). Since you can get Spiller 2 rounds or so later in most drafts, I think he's a huge value comparatively.
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billyjohnson
Footballguy
Count me in. All aboard!!!!! 
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The big difference between Best and Spiller is opportunity. The Lions have fully committed to Best being the man. The Bills have Jackson and Lynch and the coach hasn't come out with any kind of decision.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
The Subway ad on my yahoo league homepage has a picture of Spiller on it saying their subs are "hotter than my 2 a days"
Could this have waited until after the draft
Could this have waited until after the draft
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Diamond One
Footballguy
Huh? Link?The Subway ad on my yahoo league homepage has a picture of Spiller on it saying their subs are "hotter than my 2 a days"Could this have waited until after the draft
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Pretty sure if I linked it you'd just get the yahoo fantasy area and a screen that says cannot view this league because youre not in it.Its a different ad at this time, but there is a 2 x 2 square Adchoices area near the top right of the league home screen. It was a Subway ad that had a picture of Spiller running in a Subway cutoff with a buffalo chickeck and jalapeno chicken melt sub next to him and in quotes "hotter than my 2 a days"Caught me off guardHuh? Link?The Subway ad on my yahoo league homepage has a picture of Spiller on it saying their subs are "hotter than my 2 a days"Could this have waited until after the draft
jurb26
Footballguy
What? Your league doesn't allow trades?
Insein
Footballguy
We do. Just start 2QBs and needed to grab another or else be left with Trent Edwards as my 3rd guy.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Took him again in a current Phenoms draft, round 5 this time. Paid more than a few weeks ago, but I think he lives up to that.
GoBills02
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
55th overall with the next RBs off the board being Reggie Bush, MBIII, Ricky Williams, and TJ....I'll gladly take Spiller there
Clifton
Footballguy
Oh, I took him at #60 in a redraft. Definitely the best option on the board.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
First draft two weeks ago: I took Spiller in round 7, Best went in round 5.Second draft last night: I look Spiller in round 5, Best went in round 3. I like Best this year simply because of touches, but think Spiller is definitely a comparable talent. I think Best's value shrunk significantly over the last month, and Spiller's has not shot up nearly as fast due to demand of touches. That being said, I still think Spiller could really impress this year.
smapdi
Footballguy
nysportsfan
Footballguy
This is nice, and I hope its true since I own the guy in both leagues I'm in, but I really only read speculation. I don't really read anything "official" by the team, not that I doubt you, just sayin'.
Coach Chan Gailey confirmed that C.J. Spiller will start against the Dolphins on Sunday.
Even if Fred Jackson (hand) is active, as expected, Spiller is going to be the focal point of this offense. Beat writer Allen Wilson expects the No. 9 overall pick to get "at least 20 touches" on offense, on top of his work on returns. Considering Spiller's game-breaking talent, he has the upside to put up monster numbers with this kind of workload. As Wilson says, Jackson and Lynch had "best prepare themselves for a lesser role on offense."
Even if Fred Jackson (hand) is active, as expected, Spiller is going to be the focal point of this offense. Beat writer Allen Wilson expects the No. 9 overall pick to get "at least 20 touches" on offense, on top of his work on returns. Considering Spiller's game-breaking talent, he has the upside to put up monster numbers with this kind of workload. As Wilson says, Jackson and Lynch had "best prepare themselves for a lesser role on offense."
skillz
Footballguy
Gailey names rookie RB Spiller as starter over Lynch, JacksonAssociated Press
Published: Sept. 8, 2010 at 03:10 p.m. Updated: Sept. 8, 2010 at 01:36 p.m. Liked: 3 | Comments: 13 Email Like Print Read Discuss
By Associated Press
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Ever since he was selected ninth overall in April's NFL Draft, running back C.J. Spiller has been unafraid to discuss how much he wants to play a role in turning around a Buffalo Bills franchise that's been an afterthought for much of the past decade.
He's getting a chance to start proving it.
Coach Chan Gailey on Wednesday picked Spiller as his starter this weekend, when the Bills open the season by hosting Miami. Gailey based his decision on the dynamic spark Spiller showed through much of the preseason by leading the team in scoring with three rushing touchdowns.
Gailey says Spiller would have gotten the nod as starter even if Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch, who split the starting duties last year, had not missed much of the past month with injuries.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
Article on NFL.com - the bolded part stood out to me as to how much of a role Spiller is going to have. Gailey clearly wants him to be the main ball carrier out of the backfield.
Published: Sept. 8, 2010 at 03:10 p.m. Updated: Sept. 8, 2010 at 01:36 p.m. Liked: 3 | Comments: 13 Email Like Print Read Discuss
By Associated Press
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Ever since he was selected ninth overall in April's NFL Draft, running back C.J. Spiller has been unafraid to discuss how much he wants to play a role in turning around a Buffalo Bills franchise that's been an afterthought for much of the past decade.
He's getting a chance to start proving it.
Coach Chan Gailey on Wednesday picked Spiller as his starter this weekend, when the Bills open the season by hosting Miami. Gailey based his decision on the dynamic spark Spiller showed through much of the preseason by leading the team in scoring with three rushing touchdowns.
Gailey says Spiller would have gotten the nod as starter even if Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch, who split the starting duties last year, had not missed much of the past month with injuries.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
Article on NFL.com - the bolded part stood out to me as to how much of a role Spiller is going to have. Gailey clearly wants him to be the main ball carrier out of the backfield.
I'm very interested in seeing Dodd's revised projections. Their preseason projection numbers for Spiller were based on the fact that he was not the main ball carrier. Now that he is I wonder where he ranks.
gianmarco
Footballguy
"But I thought he landed in a bad situation and will have to wait to be the main ball carrier"..................
TheFanatic
Footballguy
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
I got sucked in on the hype as well. My other two leagues are a bit more competitive than my PPR draft last night so I ended up with Best, Spiller and M. Williams TB. I like all three of them where I got them based on who else was available. They are my RB2, RB3 (flex starter) and WR3, so they won't kill me if they don't explode, but if the bandwagons are correct on them, my team could roll. I think that is what I like about them. All three are the #1s on their team and all 3 could possibly end up top 12. All of them probably won't, but they have the talent and opportunity.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Huge upside on this guy. Where do people have him ranked this week? I can imagine 17 carries for 80 yards and 4 receptions for 30, and an outside chance of a TD. Who are you guys starting him over?
Meat
Footballguy
Strongly considering sitting Mendenhall for him (PPR). Honestly was very surprised where he showed in Dodds/Blooms rankings. Kinda tough to argue if he'll be "the guy" this week.
theglorydays
Footballguy
Anybody float any offers out to a spiller owner in your leagues? I'm wondering how cheap his price tag has become. If he doesn't do anything against GB this week, i think i'm going to move on him.
gary mexico
Footballguy
Some dude offered me Collie/Heap for my spiller/finley. That sums up how pathetic my week 1 was....
finley will be fine this week , spiller i dont know about, i think the bills are in for a long season........
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
He's a hold for now. I'm hoping things get turned around in Buffalo a bit and this was his worst game. He can only go up from here. His talent is real....
BAY_AREA_GIANT
Footballguy
I see the Bills under your name so I'm curious as to why you have any glimmer of hope for him.Their backfield is muttled with Jackson, Lynch, and SpillerEdwards is not very goodTheir schedule vs. the run is brutal this yearAnother poster suggested that Gailey is trying to save him like he did Charles last year, but my short term view for him is not very positive. If you were in my league, I'd probably trade him for scraps.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Terrible week 1, but considering that most people probably drafted him in the 5th-8th round, to trade him, or even drop him, after one week is just crazy. I would definitely advocate not starting him until he shows us something, though.
the bills o line is real too, real bad, they shouldn't have wasted there pick on spiller.......
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Spiller struggles in pro debutUpdated 9/12/10
Spiller, C.J. RB BUF
News: Bills RB C.J. Spiller got involved early in Buffalo's Week 1 loss to Miami, touching the ball six times on the first 11 plays, but couldn't find much room in the Dolphins defense. The rookie out of Clemson finished with 6 rushing yards on a team-high seven carries and 8 yards on four catches. "I know it's not the best I can play," Spiller said. "I've got to pick it up." Analysis: Spiller looked shifty on occasion Sunday, but he certainly got a good lesson about the speed of defenders in the pro game. His Fantasy owners also got a lesson regarding how Buffalo intends to use Spiller, who led the team in rushers, was second in targets behind Lee Evans and got his hands on the one returnable kickoff the Bills had. In Week 2, Spiller will take on the Packers, who have one of the more solid defensive units in the league. This poor opening performance from Spiller will mean a pretty big slip down the Fantasy rankings, so only consider him as a low-end flex option for Week 2.
Spiller, C.J. RB BUF
News: Bills RB C.J. Spiller got involved early in Buffalo's Week 1 loss to Miami, touching the ball six times on the first 11 plays, but couldn't find much room in the Dolphins defense. The rookie out of Clemson finished with 6 rushing yards on a team-high seven carries and 8 yards on four catches. "I know it's not the best I can play," Spiller said. "I've got to pick it up." Analysis: Spiller looked shifty on occasion Sunday, but he certainly got a good lesson about the speed of defenders in the pro game. His Fantasy owners also got a lesson regarding how Buffalo intends to use Spiller, who led the team in rushers, was second in targets behind Lee Evans and got his hands on the one returnable kickoff the Bills had. In Week 2, Spiller will take on the Packers, who have one of the more solid defensive units in the league. This poor opening performance from Spiller will mean a pretty big slip down the Fantasy rankings, so only consider him as a low-end flex option for Week 2.
