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CJ?K in 2013 (1 Viewer)

I'm looking to make a trade for CJ2K after their bye. The schedule gets a little easier for them after that and I'd expect his production to go up.

 
I wasnt too optimistic against the jets d because they are the best right now against the run. However does having fitz boost his value? This smart guy should be able to dump it off to cj and mske him look good right?
Could go either way- if he can't sustain drives, it's going to mean fewer chances. In a PPR, I do think this probably helps- Bills RBs averaged over 80 receptions (combined) per season the last two years with him as QB.

 
I'm looking to make a trade for CJ2K after their bye. The schedule gets a little easier for them after that and I'd expect his production to go up.
Everyone else has that thought, too. If you want to get him for the stretch run then you're going to have to get him 1-3 weeks earlier than that.

 
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?

 
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?
I'm a CJ owner, and even if I needed WR help, I wouldn't trade him for all 4 of those guys together. Nobody is trading a RB2 for other peoples' roster trash.

News Flash: Starting RBs who get 20+ touches are worth a lot more than WR3s & WR4s.

 
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?
I'm a CJ owner, and even if I needed WR help, I wouldn't trade him for all 4 of those guys together. Nobody is trading a RB2 for other peoples' roster trash.

News Flash: Starting RBs who get 20+ touches are worth a lot more than WR3s & WR4s.
Yes and no. In this league, a PPR league, Edelman is averaging 20/game. If the guy has other decent RB options and no WRs, it makes sense to make a play for CJ while he's down, no?

 
MattFancy said:
Resident A said:
MattFancy said:
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?
I'm a CJ owner, and even if I needed WR help, I wouldn't trade him for all 4 of those guys together. Nobody is trading a RB2 for other peoples' roster trash.

News Flash: Starting RBs who get 20+ touches are worth a lot more than WR3s & WR4s.
Yes and no. In this league, a PPR league, Edelman is averaging 20/game. If the guy has other decent RB options and no WRs, it makes sense to make a play for CJ while he's down, no?
Edelman is on borrowed time, any savvy owner knows that. It can't hurt to try though.

You may be able to find somebody who still highly values Roddy based on name.

 
MattFancy said:
I'm looking to make a trade for CJ2K after their bye. The schedule gets a little easier for them after that and I'd expect his production to go up.
Well, it really can't go much further down. He stinks this year. Again.

 
MattFancy said:
Resident A said:
MattFancy said:
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?
I'm a CJ owner, and even if I needed WR help, I wouldn't trade him for all 4 of those guys together. Nobody is trading a RB2 for other peoples' roster trash.

News Flash: Starting RBs who get 20+ touches are worth a lot more than WR3s & WR4s.
Yes and no. In this league, a PPR league, Edelman is averaging 20/game. If the guy has other decent RB options and no WRs, it makes sense to make a play for CJ while he's down, no?
Edelman is on borrowed time, any savvy owner knows that. It can't hurt to try though.

You may be able to find somebody who still highly values Roddy based on name.
I agree. I know this guy didn't really like CJ to begin with and is even more frustrated now. If I could flip Edelman for him, I'd be pumped. Will it happen? No idea. But it certainly doesn't hurt to try.

 
MattFancy said:
Resident A said:
MattFancy said:
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?
I'm a CJ owner, and even if I needed WR help, I wouldn't trade him for all 4 of those guys together. Nobody is trading a RB2 for other peoples' roster trash.

News Flash: Starting RBs who get 20+ touches are worth a lot more than WR3s & WR4s.
Yes and no. In this league, a PPR league, Edelman is averaging 20/game. If the guy has other decent RB options and no WRs, it makes sense to make a play for CJ while he's down, no?
Edelman is on borrowed time, any savvy owner knows that. It can't hurt to try though.

You may be able to find somebody who still highly values Roddy based on name.
I agree. I know this guy didn't really like CJ to begin with and is even more frustrated now. If I could flip Edelman for him, I'd be pumped. Will it happen? No idea. But it certainly doesn't hurt to try.
I think you might flip Edelman or Roddy to an angry and shortsighted CJ owner. Not every fantasy footballer is savvy enough to fully consider the upcoming schedules and shifting team dynamics when considering an offer. Bottom line for some folks is that Edelman is a top ten WR through four games and CJ0K has been an utter bum.

 
MattFancy said:
Resident A said:
MattFancy said:
What would be a fair offer for him now? I'm looking to try and trade one of my WRs I have: Edelman, Roddy, Mike Williams, Givens?
I'm a CJ owner, and even if I needed WR help, I wouldn't trade him for all 4 of those guys together. Nobody is trading a RB2 for other peoples' roster trash.News Flash: Starting RBs who get 20+ touches are worth a lot more than WR3s & WR4s.
Yes and no. In this league, a PPR league, Edelman is averaging 20/game. If the guy has other decent RB options and no WRs, it makes sense to make a play for CJ while he's down, no?
You may be able to find somebody who still highly values Roddy based on name.
Oh the irony
 
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NFL.com's Ian Rapoport is "told" injured reserve/designated to return is Jake Locker's (hip) most likely landing spot.

If true, it would cost Locker most of the rest of the season, and put the keys to the Titans' thus far humming car into noodle-armed Ryan Fitzpatrick's hands. We should get official word later this afternoon at coach Mike Munchak's press conference, though it's possible the Titans will still be awaiting test results.


Chris Johnson show is about to go into full effect ... The Receptions are going to be nice
 
Chris Johnson lashed out at fantasy owners via his Twitter page Monday.
Johnson rushed for 21 yards on 15 carries against the Jets in Week 3. So far this season, he's fantasy's No. 26 running back. "Public service announcement: I can care less about fantasy football. Key word fantasy. As long as we win I'm happy. I rush for 200 n lose y'all happy," wrote Johnson. He continued: "U r the head coach n the owner of ur fantasy team so u should be mad at urself I didn't ask any of u to draft me so if I'm so sorry y start me." Johnson no longer runs pass routes and doesn't play at the goal-line, so his upside is limited. The good news for owners is that the Titans have a really soft schedule (including at Jacksonville Week 16) in the second half of the season.
...how much less?
 
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msommer said:
Jake the Snake is going to be out for 4-8 weeks... Time for Johnson to be the focus of the offense again.
Not so fast. Jake Locker (not Jake the Snake Plummer) will be out 3 weeks only - againt KC, 49ers and SEA. Sound like good matchups to you?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000254174/article/titans-jake-locker-has-sprained-hip-will-miss-3-weeks
Unless CJ starts catching a passes he's basically not someone you can start over the next few weeks. Depending on your options of course. So in that respect I think Fitz at QB during this horrendous schedule is CJ's only chance at success. I just can't see a guy who comes of the field inside the 5 yard line doing anything against these defenses unless Fitz starts dumping it off to him or due to his arm limitations and understanding these teams are not easy to run against the coaching staff starts finally calling designed screens to him.

I can't say I'm overly optimistic about any of it. I think his catches go up but I up from 1 a game is not saying much.

By all accounts he should have been on my bench after week 2 based on what I've seen but I'm sure a lot of you who own him go through the same thought process as I do. Which is that you are just certain as soon as you bench him is the week he breaks the long run.

I do think I can separate what I want to see happen in fantasy football from my opinion as a general fan for how I think a player should be used. So with that in mind let me say I'm not speaking as a frustrated fantasy owner but just a casual fan when I say his usage is dumb. I think they need to reduce his carries and do more to get him in space on the touches and stop trying to treat him like a 230 pound clock killing chain mover. Removing him from the field inside the 5 yard line, as frustrating as that is I think that's actually the right thing to do.

 
msommer said:
Jake the Snake is going to be out for 4-8 weeks... Time for Johnson to be the focus of the offense again.
Not so fast. Jake Locker (not Jake the Snake Plummer) will be out 3 weeks only - againt KC, 49ers and SEA. Sound like good matchups to you?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000254174/article/titans-jake-locker-has-sprained-hip-will-miss-3-weeks
Unless CJ starts catching a passes he's basically not someone you can start over the next few weeks. Depending on your options of course. So in that respect I think Fitz at QB during this horrendous schedule is CJ's only chance at success. I just can't see a guy who comes of the field inside the 5 yard line doing anything against these defenses unless Fitz starts dumping it off to him or due to his arm limitations and understanding these teams are not easy to run against the coaching staff starts finally calling designed screens to him.

I can't say I'm overly optimistic about any of it. I think his catches go up but I up from 1 a game is not saying much.

By all accounts he should have been on my bench after week 2 based on what I've seen but I'm sure a lot of you who own him go through the same thought process as I do. Which is that you are just certain as soon as you bench him is the week he breaks the long run.

I do think I can separate what I want to see happen in fantasy football from my opinion as a general fan for how I think a player should be used. So with that in mind let me say I'm not speaking as a frustrated fantasy owner but just a casual fan when I say his usage is dumb. I think they need to reduce his carries and do more to get him in space on the touches and stop trying to treat him like a 230 pound clock killing chain mover. Removing him from the field inside the 5 yard line, as frustrating as that is I think that's actually the right thing to do.
he can't catch a pass if he isn't thrown a pass. Locker was always looking downfield and not the checkdown so with Locker out I think it's far more likely that CJ gets more receptions.

 
With Fitzpatrick,

CJ more likely to get receptions. Offense less likely to get first downs. Ugh. Starting CJ before his bye will probably continue owners' frustration. I do love that he lashed out at fantasy owners on Twitter today. He's right. We should be mad at ourselves for drafting and continuing to start him. You tell 'em, CJ. Then go use that motivation to score some fantasy points for my team because I've got nothing behind ya at RB2.

The thing about Johnson that so maddening is the minute you bench him he's going to go for two long TD runs.

 
Is it just me, or is CJ being ranked a bit too high this week by different sites? I'm not seeing how he's a borderline top-ten back against a stout KC D.

 
Jake the Snake is going to be out for 4-8 weeks... Time for Johnson to be the focus of the offense again.
Not so fast. Jake Locker (not Jake the Snake Plummer) will be out 3 weeks only - againt KC, 49ers and SEA. Sound like good matchups to you?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000254174/article/titans-jake-locker-has-sprained-hip-will-miss-3-weeks
Unless CJ starts catching a passes he's basically not someone you can start over the next few weeks. Depending on your options of course. So in that respect I think Fitz at QB during this horrendous schedule is CJ's only chance at success. I just can't see a guy who comes of the field inside the 5 yard line doing anything against these defenses unless Fitz starts dumping it off to him or due to his arm limitations and understanding these teams are not easy to run against the coaching staff starts finally calling designed screens to him.

I can't say I'm overly optimistic about any of it. I think his catches go up but I up from 1 a game is not saying much.

By all accounts he should have been on my bench after week 2 based on what I've seen but I'm sure a lot of you who own him go through the same thought process as I do. Which is that you are just certain as soon as you bench him is the week he breaks the long run.

I do think I can separate what I want to see happen in fantasy football from my opinion as a general fan for how I think a player should be used. So with that in mind let me say I'm not speaking as a frustrated fantasy owner but just a casual fan when I say his usage is dumb. I think they need to reduce his carries and do more to get him in space on the touches and stop trying to treat him like a 230 pound clock killing chain mover. Removing him from the field inside the 5 yard line, as frustrating as that is I think that's actually the right thing to do.
Totally agree Johnson hasn't been used well at all.

Basically the Titans have a half last week that was great offense-yet little CJ. Otherwise some poor to eh offense throughout this young season.

It reminds me of some ADP games, Barry games. Defenses are dead set against letting CJ do anything and almost willing to gift passes to the Titans. There was no respect for Locker, I really think he had no confidence, and Locker was throwing so many dink N dunk passes that every defense seemed fine with this theory. Wright getting three yards or Nate getting four isn't going to hurt the D.

Locker looked so different (which I think is confidence) and everything in the passing game opened up.

Many times recently, I noticed wholesale changes on D and then a CJ run into a brick wall. I couldn't gauge how it was predictable but it had to be.

When Battle came in, he too hit a brick wall but is better suited to play the battering ram role.

I feel like I've said his whole career he needs to catch more passes and have never got my wish. I'm not sure what the deal is but 2-3 a game seems set in stone.

They're going to have to keep beating the D with their passing game to force them to adjust. CJ may be ready to break a D's proverbial back when he's got the opening, but til the Titans demand respect for their passing it doesn't seem like it's going to happen.

Nate, Damian, Wright, and on occasion Britt or Hunter have made some good plays and some long plays, but they seemed more of an anomaly and didn't force the D to change up at all. Too often it feels like Washington gets a sweet 20 yard grab then CJ runs into a brick wall a couple times and it's 3rd and long. It's going to have to be more convincing that they can move the ball through the air than just one play.

 
I hope he gets it going. I was excited to have him as my RB2 in multiple leagues, but this is painful. Not sure why they aren't getting him more involved in the passing game. As someone previously mentioned, these up the middle runs just aren't working... use the guy's talents and get him some space to run! I'm holding him and hoping they adjust their game plan with him.

 
He's faced some of the best run-stopping teams in the first 6 weeks (steelers, texans, jets, chiefs, and seahawks....only chargers should have been an easier matchup). It get's better after their bye and he could get going in the second half of the season if the first half has not completely demoralized him.

 
I hope he gets it going. I was excited to have him as my RB2 in multiple leagues, but this is painful. Not sure why they aren't getting him more involved in the passing game. As someone previously mentioned, these up the middle runs just aren't working... use the guy's talents and get him some space to run! I'm holding him and hoping they adjust their game plan with him.
Be patient. His schedule eases up quite a bit in the second half.

 
Just bought him in a 12 team league after the Seattle game for the price of Rashard Mendenhall. CJ owner was just fed up with him, I figured I'd gamble with him for the low price

 
I hope he gets it going. I was excited to have him as my RB2 in multiple leagues, but this is painful. Not sure why they aren't getting him more involved in the passing game. As someone previously mentioned, these up the middle runs just aren't working... use the guy's talents and get him some space to run! I'm holding him and hoping they adjust their game plan with him.
yea only makes sense? right?

 
In one back sets (common) he was lining up farther behind the LOS than normal, like they wanted him to get a head of steam and buy the lineman an extra half second. It looked great when he ran outside, but same brick wall if he ran it up the gut.

Their offense is terrible, really don't know why Loggains is still employed

 
Anyone thinking that cj is due for a breakout game? The niners weakness has been the run and other rbs have had decent games vs them. I think that the ten d should keep it close. Now that fitz is the qb cj has been targeted more but he also is prone to turnovers. Iin a agame where many people have given up on him hey may surprise us

 
Johnson has another tough assignment this week, then a bye week, then the schedule opens up a lot. I am disappointed he didn't juke as much in the early weeks, Locker going down has not helped, in fact I underestimated his impact on the offense.

Johnson has a very soft schedule down the stretch and I think owners are going to be shaking their heads who don't own him come playoff time.

 
Johnson has another tough assignment this week, then a bye week, then the schedule opens up a lot. I am disappointed he didn't juke as much in the early weeks, Locker going down has not helped, in fact I underestimated his impact on the offense.

Johnson has a very soft schedule down the stretch and I think owners are going to be shaking their heads who don't own him come playoff time.
Man, I hope so (in terms of his schedule). It's really the last thing I'm clinging to with him. Maybe having Shonn Greene back could even help... soften up the defenses a bit.

 
Johnson has another tough assignment this week, then a bye week, then the schedule opens up a lot. I am disappointed he didn't juke as much in the early weeks, Locker going down has not helped, in fact I underestimated his impact on the offense.

Johnson has a very soft schedule down the stretch and I think owners are going to be shaking their heads who don't own him come playoff time.
Man, I hope so (in terms of his schedule). It's really the last thing I'm clinging to with him. Maybe having Shonn Greene back could even help... soften up the defenses a bit.
I don't know why, but I'm feeling good about him this week.

 
Jake Locker looks like he'll be playing Sunday. Should be a plus for CJ. Is everyone starting CJ? I don't know if I should start him this week. He's been so bad lately, hard to justify starting him at the flex when I could start Decker or Wayne.

 
Jake Locker looks like he'll be playing Sunday. Should be a plus for CJ. Is everyone starting CJ? I don't know if I should start him this week. He's been so bad lately, hard to justify starting him at the flex when I could start Decker or Wayne.
As of now I'm starting him over the likes of Lamar Miller and Stevan Ridley.

My extremely scientific decision for doing so... "He's due"

 
Jake Locker looks like he'll be playing Sunday. Should be a plus for CJ. Is everyone starting CJ? I don't know if I should start him this week. He's been so bad lately, hard to justify starting him at the flex when I could start Decker or Wayne.
I am considering starting CJ over Ridley (obvious) and Lamar Miller in a PPR league. It's true, 49ers have not been great against the run, and at least CJ has been catching a couple passes per game.

 
can someone please tell me why they don't look to get him in space and use him in the screen game more? He's broken 2 in the last couple weeks on a handful of targets. Don't really understand why they don't get him beyond that 1st level and let him use his speed.

 

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