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This. No way Colt made half those throws with that kinda zip or touch on the ball. The guy across the field threw 4 INT's too and he's been around a while. If he's making the same mistakes in game 6 then I'll entertain a switch but come on, it's one game.
Tell me about it. I'm not going to bury Weeden after one bad game. I think he has a chance to be a great quarterback. But those two floaters down the sideline to guys that are NOT OPEN... christ. I was sitting right where he threw both of those picks. Those receivers were not open even for a second on those routes. Those were just terrible, terrible decisions.Pat Shurmur, you've had a full offseason to get this offense looking even just marginally better than what we saw last year. Grade of F- so far.
He might have gotten a little spoiled throwing to Blackmon against Big-12 corners.
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Browns-Eagles-Postgame-Notes/3af6852f-0e5d-4188-9272-9dcb718e1556I think the bolded puts the Browns team in rare company.
Not to mention no Phil Taylor. Was expecting to get blown out yesterday. Great day for the defense.
Don't really need to say much about the offense. It'll just get me upset. 
Parker was always a good rotational DE. I thought the Eagles offensive gameplan was atrocious yesterday.
Agreed, going so pass heavy when Vick missed almost all of preseason and the Browns perceived weakness vs. the run made no sense. Make the Browns stop the run then go to the pass. I thought we played well regardless, but would be even more optimistic had we contained a good gameplan - we did not. The Eagles lose that game to just about anyone else in the NFL.
How about we don't call plays for for Benjamin down the sideline against a corner that's 4+ inches taller? Why wasn't he working the middle? Let Little and Gordon go up for the jump balls.Still bad decision to throw it there though.
Ugh. 4?Draft an old immobile QB who had all his success in the shotgun. Fail. Hope I'm wrong. Three cheers to the new ownership. Too bad he wasn't in there before they needlessly gave away the farm for Trent...who was going to be there anyways IMO.
If I didn't say 2 then I'll say it now.
We don't really have any idea where the coaches wanted Weeden to go with the ball. We just know where he threw it.
I hear ya. If they'd just made noise like they wanted Kalil, TRich would have been cheaper, at least.BTW, Weeden isn't old. "Old" implies worn out & ready to retire.
I think if Haden is there we win this game. Buster Skrine and Dmitri Patterson were simply outmuscled. I love Haden to death but I'm so disappointed in him. It's about time we saw some outside runs, some play action, and for the love of God Shanahan is playing to RGIII's strengths, why can't we run more shotgun to make Weeden more comfortable? It got better today but still. I was impressed with Richardson and Weeden (duh!). The main callout of Richardson is that it's evident that his sheer strength will wear defenses down and take over games when we have a lead. Now that Weeden established himself as a threat the box won't be as stacked. As for Weeden, I was really impressed at the way he stayed in the pocket under collapsing pressure, didn't get happy feet a la Colt, and stood tall and found his receiver. I also enjoyed his first game without fumbling the ball. He's like (gulp) an accurate Derek Anderson, #3 and all.I was cautiously optimistic but
when we took Cincy's John Hughes in the 3rd round. Billy Winn was a bargain in the 5th round. Although Winn got hurt today, it's an understatement when I say that I am much more than pleased with both of them. Phil Taylor isn't there and bloody hell, we have penetration at the line and a pass rush! D'Qwell is an absolute beast. I am anxious to see what James Michael Johnson can do when he comes back from his oblique strain. Pitt loses and we're only a game out of first 
We wanted a competent offense and watchable football, that's what we got. After a very bumpy start I was impressed with Weeden, but I was just as impressed in how awful Cincy is defensively. Still, have to take the positives from this week and spin it to a win next week because if we don't get a W against Buffalo we're staring 0-5 and a mid-October house cleaning right in the face. I'm all for moving on past these guys, but I also want to see growth and I don't see that happening if the ship is blown up in October, save that for January's Black Monday.
Another LB wouldn't be bad either.
I'm good with that. Add one starter & the depth problem solves itself.
A corner opposite Haden is a glaring issue.Parker and Rucker are surprisingly impressing me but they're stop gaps - we need to find another young pass rusher.TE is developing into an issue since Moore didn't pan out, Watson's falling off the cliff, Smith is just depth, and Cameron isn't getting on the field.Don't thnik WR is there either - Gordon has enormous potential and Benjamin looks like a nice role player, but Massaquoi and Little don't look like answers. Need someone else in there, especially with the problems at TE.OG is still a problem too, but 5th in the priority list - a free agent solution should work.I think we're good at S, LB, OT, and DT though.QB, DE, or CB needs to be the round 1 pick next year with a passing game weapon mixed in day 2.
I am, pretending it's not an option would be foolish though. If he proves me wrong then it's not QB - it's just CB or DE. A bad season and the whole ship gets blown up, new guys come in that have zero ties to Weeden and if you took a consensus from the league they'd say the Browns probably have the worst QB in the league. They, and I, could all be wrong, but if that's the case then the Browns probably sratch and claw for enough wins that some people who wouldn't otherwise, that have ties to Weeden, keep their jobs.You should at least try to have an open mind about Weeden.
Can you tell me the last time that a team, under any circumstances, drafted a QB in the first round 2 years in a row?I am, pretending it's not an option would be foolish though.
Offering a differing opinion from the side of town where the sun shines occasionally...
Another top quality CB would make that unit complete. There are 6-7 very good D linemen on this team. The young LBs are kicking butt! DEFENSE is very close when healthy.
Carolina basically did that with Clausen being their first pick of the draft in 2010, albeit 2nd round and Cam as the first overall in 2011. Considering the Browns reached for Weeden, the next QB didn't go until 2.25 to the Broncos (who would never have taken Weeden), and Wilson went at 3.12 to the Seahawks...you're looking at a potential Carolina type situation in Clevland.Can you tell me the last time that a team, under any circumstances, drafted a QB in the first round 2 years in a row?I am, pretending it's not an option would be foolish though.
I've actually been more positive since the ownership change, before if Weeden sucked we were stuck with him for 2+ years which would have given the front office that much time to make short sighted moves at the expense of the longevity of the franchise to try to save their jobs. Now if he sucks they all go and we'll get new guys in here with a good core to build around that a desperate front office didn't have time to ruin before heading out, I mean we did spend a #2 on Gordon and while a #3 seems more reasonable in hindsight and probably would've been the play had they not known a change was coming it's not the end of the world. Or Weeden can just end up being a good player and we can build from there.Much happier now than I was in April, hasn't changed my expectations for this year, but I can at least see a light at the end of the tunnel one way or the other.
Correct, the Browns offense with Peyton Hillis comp's were incorrectly scoffed at by many but it absolutely holds water. I don't think Colt is the answer, but he can win games with Richardson behind him. If Weeden isn't the answer and one of Geno, Barkley, Bray, etc. is then he comes in here to a stud RB and developing WR corps with hopefully an added weapon - much better situation than any QB has come into here with since we came back.
When's the bye week?Brutal game to watch. You can be optimistic all you want, there are some good things to take from each of these games but at the end of the day they have to start winning. The WR's drop balls that have to be caught, the Defense drop INT after INT that are potential game changers, the O-line pulls a stupid drive stopping penalty or gives up a sack at a critical point. And Shurmur is just lost, lost. Doesn't have a clue. There are 31 teams in the NFL playing football right now and then there are us.
We are just terrible.
