Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I've been looking for a positive for spending so much time here. Seems to keep us away from others just enough to keep most of us healthy.So, still nobody?
I've been looking for a positive for spending so much time here. Seems to keep us away from others just enough to keep most of us healthy.So, still nobody?
And I bet if you limit to the Ferrari crowd like the FFA, the percentages are even far smaller. We’re good for now.According to Worldometer, just a hair over 1 of every 100 people in the US have tested positive.
I can only dream, bud. I am a 2002 Pontiac Grand AmAnd I bet if you limit to the Ferrari crowd like the FFA, the percentages are even far smaller. We’re good for now.
You sound kind of disappointed. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong because that would be a pretty ####ty attitude and I don't think you really feel that way.So, still nobody?
I read it as surprised based on probabilities - honestly, I’m surprised. Hopefully we are just lucky and we haven’t had some members pass or are in the hospital.You sound kind of disappointed. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong because that would be a pretty ####ty attitude and I don't think you really feel that way.
Yes, you are reading it wrong.You sound kind of disappointed. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong because that would be a pretty ####ty attitude and I don't think you really feel that way.
Most of us are non-essential, wfh, affluent people.I'd assume less anti-maskers in the FFA too. Added to people who are generally looking to be more informed about world events as well.
I figured. You always struck me as fairly cool in these threads. I've just let quite a few FBGs lead me to become jaded about some posts in here. Apologies.Yes, you are reading it wrong.
That's a lot to assume over 3 words...You sound kind of disappointed. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong because that would be a pretty ####ty attitude and I don't think you really feel that way.
Ugh - that’s sucks man. If you don’t mind me asking - how old? Good thoughts and vibes coming your way.My daughter. And I can't be of any help as I am a month removed from ICU for a lung issue. I feel pretty helpless. Hopefully she doesn't get to bad of symptoms as she lost her mom in March and really doesn't have anyone to attend to her. COVID sucks.
Ugh. So sorry, DMac.My daughter. And I can't be of any help as I am a month removed from ICU for a lung issue. I feel pretty helpless. Hopefully she doesn't get to bad of symptoms as she lost her mom in March and really doesn't have anyone to attend to her. COVID sucks.
She turns 38 Friday. Happy birthday to her. Her age is a plus. Her weight is a minus as she is definitely heavy. I can't lie, her basic health is why I am so concerned.Ugh - that’s sucks man. If you don’t mind me asking - how old? Good thoughts and vibes coming your way.
I told her, phone, email, text. Don't leave me in the dark. Let me know how she is doing. If she needs ANYTHING, let me know. It is a 45 minute drive or so but that is fine. Anything she needs. She was very much a homebody. Has groceries delivered, doesn't go out. All she did was go to work with mandatory masks. Still got it. She did everything she could to be able to enjoy her birthday and somehow it still got her. Thing that pisses me off, her job could easily be WFH. But it is a government contract so we have to keep our thumbs on the workers! So I will spend the next 7 to 10 days praying her symptoms don't worsen.Ugh. So sorry, DMac.
Is she close by at least? Does she have people who can check on her? Can you FaceTime?
Anything the FFA community can do?
Glad you got through it ok. Still hoping the antibodies give you immunity- would suck if not.I tested positive for antibodies back in May, which meant I had COVID-19 in late March, when our County got hit hard. I thought it was a cold that was turning into a sinus infection - runny nose, cough, headache, slight fever. About 3 days in, I lost my sense of taste and smell. After about 3 more days sleeping in the basement, it cleared up - my wife tested negative for antibodies, and I told her it was because she's so skilled at socially distancing from me. Never got tested for COVID in March, and I'm sure they wouldn't have tested me at the time as my symptoms were mild. Only reason I was tested for antibodies was that I volunteered for a clinical study in our County. Turns out that the actual infection rate (those with antibodies) was about 10 times greater (total infection rate was about 23%) than the reported infection rate (those positive for COVID). That study, and others measuring antibody response, are ongoing.
Pretty sure I got it at a trivia night at my local watering hole. 4/6 of the people on my team got sick and a slew of other regulars got sick as well - one was even put on a ventilator (overweight, 65 year old). We are back to playing, but the news on antibodies is still unclear and a bit disturbing so maybe we aren't as safe as we once thought. Might be time to play more golf.
Do we know that if you have had it you cannot get it again? I thought the jury was still out on that one...…..or at least too soon in the process to know for sure.I have posted this before and I don't need to fire up a new thread about it but what do you all think of some Identification that's "Official" not jimmied together at the grass roots level but what about some type of visual ID that lets people know you have already had it? You pose no threat and also cannot get sick from others who have it.
I think it's fair if people follow the rules and then can prove they are no threat to others and can move freely about, that would seem like a logical and good thing to help those who have already suffered thru this. No reason to make people put their lives on hold when they are close to a zero factor in the stats or numbers.
-Yes, people will be jealous that they have to mask up and you are free to move about but that's how it is. People in elected positions trying to control other people and how they live, that's not their job. They want to mandate masks, awesome. But they should also allow for people that have already experienced it to move forward with their lives as close to the way they were living prior.
Might work once we are sure that antibodies = immunity. But right now we do not know that. There are reports already, although small sample size and unconfirmed as far as I've seen, of reinfections in some patients overseas.I have posted this before and I don't need to fire up a new thread about it but what do you all think of some Identification that's "Official" not jimmied together at the grass roots level but what about some type of visual ID that lets people know you have already had it? You pose no threat and also cannot get sick from others who have it.
I think it's fair if people follow the rules and then can prove they are no threat to others and can move freely about, that would seem like a logical and good thing to help those who have already suffered thru this. No reason to make people put their lives on hold when they are close to a zero factor in the stats or numbers.
-Yes, people will be jealous that they have to mask up and you are free to move about but that's how it is. People in elected positions trying to control other people and how they live, that's not their job. They want to mandate masks, awesome. But they should also allow for people that have already experienced it to move forward with their lives as close to the way they were living prior.
Except public health IS their job. It's not about controlling individuals, it's about protecting the community. I wish this politicization would stop. It's a big reason why this virus is kicking our ###. Go look at a chart of Covid cases in the US vs the EU. Roughly the same population and they had a head start but by mid-April they have started to get it in control and we're skyrocketing. It's this attitude that's the problem.I have posted this before and I don't need to fire up a new thread about it but what do you all think of some Identification that's "Official" not jimmied together at the grass roots level but what about some type of visual ID that lets people know you have already had it? You pose no threat and also cannot get sick from others who have it.
I think it's fair if people follow the rules and then can prove they are no threat to others and can move freely about, that would seem like a logical and good thing to help those who have already suffered thru this. No reason to make people put their lives on hold when they are close to a zero factor in the stats or numbers.
-Yes, people will be jealous that they have to mask up and you are free to move about but that's how it is. People in elected positions trying to control other people and how they live, that's not their job. They want to mandate masks, awesome. But they should also allow for people that have already experienced it to move forward with their lives as close to the way they were living prior.
How could they possibly know this to such a level to make a statement qualified by "likely"???In talking to my doctor friends and other experts, it is "likely" that I have immunity, but it's unclear how long it will last. It's also "likely" that IF, by some small chance, I get it again, it will be another mild case. "Likely" is somewhat comforting, but the last thing I want is to be reckless and bring it home to my family, so I wear a mask, wash my hands a lot and avoid crowded areas. There are still too many unknowns with this virus to stamp a big "I" (Immune? Infected? Ignoramus?) on my forehead IMO.
From what I've read there's a thought that the body will recognize it more quickly and know how to react. I believe they've maybe shown this with other coronavirus illnesses but not certain.How could they possibly know this to such a level to make a statement qualified by "likely"???
(1) I already had a mild case, so the theory is that since my body fought it off the first time, it will do it again.How could they possibly know this to such a level to make a statement qualified by "likely"???
Well, you can get different strains of the flu in the same season (or concurrently even), but I don't think you can get the same strain because of the antibodies that you produced the first time. The hope is that you can't get this same strain of COVID again once you've had it, due to the antibodies it produces. But it's new so we don't know for sure, and are only drawing from the data as it slowly comes in.I don't understand why we're expecting not to be able to get this again once we've had it, isn't this in the same family as cold/flu (not saying same thing, obviously) and don't we go through cold/flu season every single year?
I realize that's a simplistic take, but...?
You say that like it's a bad thingI can only dream, bud. I am a 2002 Pontiac Grand Am
listened to an interesting Hidden Brain podcast the other day - https://www.npr.org/transcripts/828257385 - that discusses some of the differences in societies that tend to lean towards strictness vs. those that tend to lean more relaxed. found it pretty interesting.Except public health IS their job. It's not about controlling individuals, it's about protecting the community. I wish this politicization would stop. It's a big reason why this virus is kicking our ###. Go look at a chart of Covid cases in the US vs the EU. Roughly the same population and they had a head start but by mid-April they have started to get it in control and we're skyrocketing. It's this attitude that's the problem.
I've had the same idea about identifying those in the clear to help the economy get moving but the problem is we have no clear evidence yet that you can't get sick again. We don't know how effective antibodies are or how long they last.
Our first one!I tested positive for antibodies back in May, which meant I had COVID-19 in late March, when our County got hit hard. I thought it was a cold that was turning into a sinus infection - runny nose, cough, headache, slight fever. About 3 days in, I lost my sense of taste and smell. After about 3 more days sleeping in the basement, it cleared up - my wife tested negative for antibodies, and I told her it was because she's so skilled at socially distancing from me. Never got tested for COVID in March, and I'm sure they wouldn't have tested me at the time as my symptoms were mild. Only reason I was tested for antibodies was that I volunteered for a clinical study in our County. Turns out that the actual infection rate (those with antibodies) was about 10 times greater (total infection rate was about 23%) than the reported infection rate (those positive for COVID). That study, and others measuring antibody response, are ongoing.
Pretty sure I got it at a trivia night at my local watering hole. 4/6 of the people on my team got sick and a slew of other regulars got sick as well - one was even put on a ventilator (overweight, 65 year old). We are back to playing, but the news on antibodies is still unclear and a bit disturbing so maybe we aren't as safe as we once thought. Might be time to play more golf.
This went over my head.Except public health IS their job. It's not about controlling individuals, it's about protecting the community. I wish this politicization would stop. It's a big reason why this virus is kicking our ###. Go look at a chart of Covid cases in the US vs the EU. Roughly the same population and they had a head start but by mid-April they have started to get it in control and we're skyrocketing. It's this attitude that's the problem.
I've had the same idea about identifying those in the clear to help the economy get moving but the problem is we have no clear evidence yet that you can't get sick again. We don't know how effective antibodies are or how long they last.
Similar vein, There's a doc film called "American factory" about a Chinese businessman buying and reopening a shuttered autoglass factory, iirc in OH. Does a great job highlighting the differences in the two cultures towards work and life. The response to the pandemic makes me think of it a lot....worth a watch.listened to an interesting Hidden Brain podcast the other day - https://www.npr.org/transcripts/828257385 - that discusses some of the differences in societies that tend to lean towards strictness vs. those that tend to lean more relaxed. found it pretty interesting.
"We all know people who prefer to follow the rules, and others who prefer to flout them. Psychologist Michele Gelfand defines these two ways of being as "tight" and "loose." She says the tight/loose framework can help us to better understand individuals, businesses, and even nations. This week, we look at the core traits of tight and loose worldviews, and how they may shape our lives — from interactions with our spouses to global efforts to fight the coronavirus."
had to google this because, not lying, i thought you were jerking my chain and this was a Gung Ho reference.Similar vein, There's a doc film called "American factory" about a Chinese businessman buying and reopening a shuttered autoglass factory, iirc in OH. Does a great job highlighting the differences in the two cultures towards work and life. The response to the pandemic makes me think of it a lot....worth a watch.
Good luck!Will find out today. Took the test 9 days ago.
Just called. They said it’s not in yet. 7-10 days.Good luck!
9 days!?
Worthwhile doc...and does a decent job being impartial imo. Warts and all for both sides.had to google this because, not lying, i thought you were jerking my chain and this was a Gung Ho reference.
Virus or antibody? If the former...have you been feeling unwell to prompt the test?Got tested this morning. That was unpleasant to say the least. But, few minutes of that is worth finding out. Now what to do for the 6-10 days they said it may take to find out. And then, depending on results what do I do. Sucks.