Family controversy - Wedding Invitations (1 Viewer)

[T Love]

We did the no kids thing for our wedding a couple of years ago and got to see how inconsiderate we were for not allowing kids first hand. We did a destination wedding and had a very limited reception, like 50 people. Our invitations said no kids which only would have affected a few of our friends. Well my wife's only cousin, who actually lives about an hour drive away from where we got married, was one of a couple of people who could drive in and out for the ceremony/reception. She called my wife one week before the wedding (after final guarantee) and said that her husband couldn't make it because they couldn't find a babysitter. Mind you his entire family, which is a very big family, all live near them there and we sent the invitations out at least two months in advance. After telling my wife the news, she paused on the phone, expecting my wife to say okay you can bring him since we had put them in such a bind without any options for babysitting due to our last minute request (he was like 3 years old and she obsesses over everything he does). My wife said, that's too bad and said bye, to the shock of her cousin. I think their wedding present was a $25 Olive Garden gift card though, so that was nice...

 

[Otis]

Can't remember the last thread that went this poorly for the OP. Oof.

 

[McGarnicle]

an't remember the last thread that went this poorly for the OP. Oof.

To look at it another way, you couldn't buy a quicker or more effective reality check. Maybe it wasn't what he wanted to hear, but he knows the deal now.

 

[culdeus]

Anyways they say the open bars at clubs tend to lose money for the clubs.

No chance this is true.

I think it's not out of the realm. Bars need to charge 8 or so a drink in this area to cover TABC, server, overhead. In a 4 hour period someone drinks 1/hr they blow that tab easily. Most places don't even allow you to tip servers at events so 20% go to the tenders automatically and 15% to the pickups. So they are netting maybe a shade over 30, most of which is killed by Uncle Ron and his liver. Even someone killing a 6 pack of Bud Light may just barely break even for the venue.

50/open bar/person is about the limit someone will pay here before going the catered route. That's the option versus letting your venue go dark.

Most places keep a running tally of what has been consumed and charge accordingly. Places are not losing money off of the booze they sell.

This is going to vary wildly state to state depending on tax rules. I am just saying the sites here make money off the site rental only. The food is usually brought in from outside and the booze fees pay for the server and barely cover the costs/taxes.

The people that just rake in weddings are the dress people, the flower people, and the cake people. Sites don't have nearly the margin.

 

[Pick]

More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

 

[Rick James]

Anyways they say the open bars at clubs tend to lose money for the clubs.

No chance this is true.

I think it's not out of the realm. Bars need to charge 8 or so a drink in this area to cover TABC, server, overhead. In a 4 hour period someone drinks 1/hr they blow that tab easily. Most places don't even allow you to tip servers at events so 20% go to the tenders automatically and 15% to the pickups. So they are netting maybe a shade over 30, most of which is killed by Uncle Ron and his liver. Even someone killing a 6 pack of Bud Light may just barely break even for the venue.

50/open bar/person is about the limit someone will pay here before going the catered route. That's the option versus letting your venue go dark.

Most places keep a running tally of what has been consumed and charge accordingly. Places are not losing money off of the booze they sell.

This is going to vary wildly state to state depending on tax rules. I am just saying the sites here make money off the site rental only. The food is usually brought in from outside and the booze fees pay for the server and barely cover the costs/taxes.

The people that just rake in weddings are the dress people, the flower people, and the cake people. Sites don't have nearly the margin.

I don't know man, I find that really hard to believe. Most sites throw three weddings a week (Fri/Sat/Sun) from February through probably October. Just going from my wedding, the site fee was $1,500. So that's $4,500 per week ($18,000 per month) for a building whose mortgage is more than likely paid off already.

And it's not like they take on any of the damn costs. The customer pays for everything else (food, drink, music, flowers, etc). Yeah there are all-inclusive type deals, but they just raise the site fee to something ridiculous ($10,000) instead of having you buy everything else item by item.

I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I seriously doubt wedding venues are hurting.

 

[gmbacm]

Most sites throw three weddings a week (Fri/Sat/Sun) from February through probably October.

Around here Sat weddings are the norm. Sunday weddings happen but infrequent, and Friday weddings extremely rare.

 

[Rick James]

Most sites throw three weddings a week (Fri/Sat/Sun) from February through probably October.

Around here Sat weddings are the norm. Sunday weddings happen but infrequent, and Friday weddings extremely rare.

Yes, Saturday weddings are the norm. But I guarantee you most venues are booked Fri/Sat/Sun from Feb thru Oct.

 

[Zow]

More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

So... just for you? In that case, I feel sad that the decisions of other people affect you so much that they make you sad.

 

[Pick]

More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

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More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

So... just for you? In that case, I feel sad that the decisions of other people affect you so much that they make you sad.

Exactly. Just for me, and maybe bb, too. People make decisions all the time that make me sad. The deciscions by the Boston bombers made me sad. Apparently, you are not saddened by the decisions of other people. That is also sad.

 

[Zow]

Most sites throw three weddings a week (Fri/Sat/Sun) from February through probably October.

Around here Sat weddings are the norm. Sunday weddings happen but infrequent, and Friday weddings extremely rare.

In the places we looked I noticed that there were price breaks for doing the wedding on a day other than Saturday. I think that is smart all the way around. I had a buddy get married on a Friday and he told me it saved them several grand and they got all the same stuff. Meant then that they could afford their top choice venue. I thought that was pretty cool and, really, a Friday wedding wasn't too bad (although I was a groomsmen and it was destination so I had to take several days off of work anyway).

 

[Zow]

More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

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More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

Obviously.

So... just for you? In that case, I feel sad that the decisions of other people affect you so much that they make you sad.

Exactly. Just for me, and maybe bb, too. People make decisions all the time that make me sad. The deciscions by the Boston bombers made me sad. Apparently, you are not saddened by the decisions of other people. That is also sad.

I prefer to be happy.

 

[McGarnicle]

Thanks to everyone who participated. We've learned that weddings should never under any circumstances take place. Have a great day.

 

[Pick]

I prefer to be happy.

About the Boston bombing? Weird.

 

[the moops]

Nobody loses money on beer/wine/booze. Nobody. Not the dive on the corner or the local brewpub or the wedding reception site.

My brother runs a bartending service in Maine. He does roughly 59 weddings a year. Open bars are just as profitable, if not more, than cash bars. Sure, some weddings are full of lushes and he makes less on those nights, but those are counteracted with the light drinking crowds. Either way, he never closes the bar down at the end of the night at a loss. And my brother isn't some super genius. He charges similar rates and offers similar services and employs as many bartenders as large venues.

 

[[icon]]

More often than not, the people I know who have decided not to have kids are the people I'd like to procreate.

Exactly. That's why it's sad.

Not for the people who didn't have the kids.

 

[[icon]]

At least half of the weddings that I attend are interrupted/ruined by babies crying in the middle of the ceremony. If I were planning a wedding, I would not want any small children to attend the ceremony. I can't imagine how unnerving it must be for the groom to be standing at the alter while listening to the deafening screams of a baby

 

[RUSF18]

Can't remember the last thread that went this poorly for the OP. Oof.

Been to Walgreens recently?

 

[The Dude]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

 

[mr roboto]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on. And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite. And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son. At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Keep your damn mouth shut. No one needs the drama.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on. And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite. And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son. At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

It's not about you. If you're going to be an ###, then you shouldn't have gone. Kids at weddings are stupid. Try to have fun and not be a jerk.

 

[RUSF18]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

You're a horrible person.

 

[Steed]

Someone old enough to be a grandfather should know better.

 

[Henry Ford]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on. And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite. And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son. At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

But if it only affects a couple kids, why are so many people unhappy about it? Wait, let me guess, you mean you brought it up with everyone you see at the wedding, and they all say "yeah, that's too bad" which you interpret as them being as upset as you are.If you bring this up to the bride's family tonight, I hope they have you escorted out.

 

[Billy Bats]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on. And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite. And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son. At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Keep your damn mouth shut. No one needs the drama.

Seriously, he should change his screen name to The Chick.

If you want to be a #### keep your mouth shut until a later date, don't ruin their wedding tonight with your personal issues.

In fact, send the gift and STAY HOME, everyone will appreciate it.

 

[Ignoramus]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on. And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite. And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son. At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Hi Dude,There are a lot of weddings out there and maybe this isn't the one for you. Have a nice reception, guy.-I

 

[Mr. Pickles]

t some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Shut your whore mouth.

 

[Billy Bats]

t some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Shut your whore mouth.

This has to be schtick, right? I've never heard of a grown man be such a #####, an be openly proud of it.

 

[McGarnicle]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Oh absolutely, make sure you ruin their day. That's just common sense. Ask the bride for a dance during a slow number and whisper in her ear what a selfish see you in Tahiti you think she is. If she pulls away, clench tighter and say more horrible stuff until she's wailing and mascara is running down her cheeks.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Bring it up tonight.

Hope someone punches you in the mouth.

 

[Ignoramus]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Oh absolutely, make sure you ruin their day. That's just common sense. Ask the bride for a dance during a slow number and whisper in her ear what a selfish see you in Tahiti you think she is. If she pulls away, clench tighter and say more horrible stuff until she's wailing and mascara is running down her cheeks.

JFC

 

[NCCommish]

Since I got dragged in a bit let me say I didn't think Pick was being judgmental. I have seen judgmental Pick and that wasn't him. That was perhaps myopic Pick but not judgmental.

For the record I always wanted kids. My wife was less than thrilled with the idea. She always said she never felt the urge and that when other people discussed it it just felt wrong for her. Several miscarriages and a hysterectomy later it seems she was right. Now due to her illness I don't have the money or time to raise a child the way I think is appropriate so I guess we'll roll kid free to the end.

 

[Johnny Bing]

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Perfect time to bring it up is in middle of reception when everyone is feeling good.

Make sure you address it loud and in front of as many people as possible.

Please YouTube the conversation as I'm sure the response will be epic.

 

[Godsbrother]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Jebus man, get over it and quit being such a jerk. It is their wedding and they have the right to have the kind of wedding they want. You should have declined the invitation if your going to be an as* about it.

What a stupid thing to get you panties in a bunch about...

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

You're not a good dude.

 

[Kanil]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on. And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite. And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son. At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

It's not about you. If you're going to be an ###, then you shouldn't have gone. Kids at weddings are stupid. Try to have fun and not be a jerk.

Seriously ****-shine... This is, hopefully, the ONLY wedding these two will ever get. You causing drama about the rules they put in place to make their wedding the way they want it is not OK. Shame on you for even thinking of it.

 

[McGarnicle]

You're really just a horrible, horrible person.

 

[NCCommish]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

Oh absolutely, make sure you ruin their day. That's just common sense. Ask the bride for a dance during a slow number and whisper in her ear what a selfish see you in Tahiti you think she is. If she pulls away, clench tighter and say more horrible stuff until she's wailing and mascara is running down her cheeks.

 

[Billy Bats]

It is Friday, hopefully we're being .

 

[The_Man]

I wonder if we could get a smiley for when a thread goes in the completely opposite direction from what the OP thinks it will. What would it be? I’ve come up with a train jumping off its tracks, or an avalanche carrying away an angrily protesting smiley.

 

[Henry Ford]

I wonder if we could get a smiley for when a thread goes in the completely opposite direction from what the OP thinks it will. What would it be? Ive come up with a train jumping off its tracks, or an avalanche carrying away an angrily protesting smiley.

I think a gun backfiring would be nice.

 

[matuski]

What a doosh.

 

[McGarnicle]

[No message]

 

[TLEF316]

First they said "no kids" and I didn't stand up, since I was not a kid....

 

[jwb]

Since I got dragged in a bit let me say I didn't think Pick was being judgmental. I have seen judgmental Pick and that wasn't him. That was perhaps myopic Pick but not judgmental.

For the record I always wanted kids. My wife was less than thrilled with the idea. She always said she never felt the urge and that when other people discussed it it just felt wrong for her. Several miscarriages and a hysterectomy later it seems she was right. Now due to her illness I don't have the money or time to raise a child the way I think is appropriate so I guess we'll roll kid free to the end.

Enjoy. It's not a bad way to live at all.

 

[proninja]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU

 

[comfortably numb]

Had to bump this train wreck as the wedding is tonight. More silliness going on.

And several people not happy about the no kids rule (and that doesn't mean just me). Wish we would have declined the invite.

And to answer earlier questions, I have custody of my grandson - so he is like a son.

At some point - and I hope it's not tonight - I am going to have to tell somebody in the bride's family that IMO no kids is a stupid idea (not everyone will agree hence the IMO).

please expound?

 

[NCCommish]

Since I got dragged in a bit let me say I didn't think Pick was being judgmental. I have seen judgmental Pick and that wasn't him. That was perhaps myopic Pick but not judgmental.

For the record I always wanted kids. My wife was less than thrilled with the idea. She always said she never felt the urge and that when other people discussed it it just felt wrong for her. Several miscarriages and a hysterectomy later it seems she was right. Now due to her illness I don't have the money or time to raise a child the way I think is appropriate so I guess we'll roll kid free to the end.

Enjoy. It's not a bad way to live at all.

Absolutely. Before my wife got to where she couldn't travel it was really great. Pick up any time we want, go anywhere we want, no considerations for children required. And now that she isn't well I am kind of glad I don't have two people(or more) depending on me 24/7.

 

[Fennis]

 

[Godsbrother]

After thinking about this some more I think the Dude should just take the little snotblower with him to the wedding anyway. The Dude needs to teach the bride's family who is calling the shots.