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Genrepalooza 3: Playlists are done, phwew (2 Viewers)

Eephus said:
That question is so easy, even @Northern Voice can answer it.
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Wikipedia says:

there are core elements that define pop music. Identifying factors include generally short to medium-length songs written in a basic format (often the verse-chorus structure), as well as common use of repeated choruses, melodic tunes, and hooks.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sounds good to me

 
Eephus said:
Spreadsheet updated.  I think we're missing the following picks

9 . 13 141 The Dreaded Marco
10 . 6 150 Mr. Ected
10 . 9 153 Abrantes
11 . 1 129 Mr. Irrelevant
11 . 7 135 Mrs. Rannous
11 . 8 136 Abrantes
11 . 9 137 Man of Constant Sorrow
11 . 11 139 Mr. Ected
11 . 14 142 Steve Tasker
11 . 16 144 Karma Police


Plus the @Abrantes Big K.R.I.T. repick
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KRIT repick - The Vent (2011)

Dude CRUSHES it.

 
Eephus said:
Spreadsheet updated.  I think we're missing the following picks

9 . 13 141 The Dreaded Marco
10 . 6 150 Mr. Ected
10 . 9 153 Abrantes
11 . 1 129 Mr. Irrelevant
11 . 7 135 Mrs. Rannous
11 . 8 136 Abrantes
11 . 9 137 Man of Constant Sorrow
11 . 11 139 Mr. Ected
11 . 14 142 Steve Tasker
11 . 16 144 Karma Police


Plus the @Abrantes Big K.R.I.T. repick
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Yep, I am behind on one round. I planned to make my re-pick last night, but I got sucked into Game of Thrones. 

As I posted in 2 other threads, I am super busy today getting prepared for Derby Week. I live 10 yards from Churchill Downs & have a lot of guests coming this week & people renting my house for the weekend. 

I will make both my round 11 & 12 picks sometime tonight. 

I am also behind on listening to the new picks. 

Sorry - chaos reigns at the moment. 

Later. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I typically see pop as a short song that’s catchy, singable and not full of too many other genre elements 
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I think the last part of this definition is significant.  Green Day had several songs on the Billboard Hot 100 this century which makes them hits but I'd argue they're not Pop songs.  They'd be draftable as Rock or Punk and wouldn't sound out of place in those mixes.  But they'd stand out in the Pop mix.  By the same token, "The Real Slim Shady" isn't a Pop song for me but a Pop song could have a rapped verse.  I think the softest boundary is probably between Pop and R&B.  There have been a number of R&B songs drafted that could also be considered Pop.  Pop R&B is bit more scrubbed than Urban R&B.

I realize musical monoculture died a long time ago but everybody who's lived in this century should have some idea of what Pop radio sounded like.  Your Pop pick doesn't necessarily have to be a song that charted but try to think of the mix when selecting.

 
rockaction said:
I was tempted to take Jeremih's other notoriously overt hit for R&B, but passed.
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Ok I’m pretty sure that one is about the celebration of another year passed, the memories of time with close friends and the intimate connection that unites all living beings. We thinking of the same song?

 
Okay, a few minutes early, but I'm having trouble with the editor and leaving the page -- I'm ten minutes early, cut me some slack. 

Round 12.xx 

***Non-Spotify Selection***

Genre - Punk

Artist - Landlord

Song - Godspeed

***Second Non-Spotify Selection***

Genre - Punk

Artist - The Observers

Song - Paralyzer

Given that I've mentioned a ton of worthy bands from the aughts and teens in drafts and lists, I'm having trouble coming up with something that I or somebody else hasn't mentioned before. So, okay, these aren't on Spotify, but they're the songs I would have decided between for this mix. One is a wonderful tune off of a comp and an album that vanished into the ether of even popular punk consciousness (though it is still indeed available from Recess Records) and the other is off of a little-known album put together by an outfit from Portland, OR. One is more indie/punk, the other straight punk.

For the Spotify mix, I'll take another track that I feel is the possibly the best punk song of the aughts, before the prog-rock influences truly kicked in. 

***Spotify***

Round 12.xx

Genre - Punk

Artist - ####ed Up

Song - Crusades

eta* Given that my emphasis in the punk draft was to consciously draft stuff largely from the aughts after the requirements in that draft were up, I'm a little restricted in what I think I should be drafting, hence the extra non-Spotify selections. Punk is not always on Spotify, and when it is, song availability ebbs and flows due to supply and demand. The question of whether a) Spotify wants it and b) whether the labels that make their money off of sales of tangible goods rather than the cents on the dollar they get from streaming to a hundred people or so is paramount, and leads to, as always, distribution problems in the punk world. 

 
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Eephus said:
To prep for Pop in tomorrow's round 13, I'm going to do deep analysis of whether the R&B songs from round 12 are Pop or Not Pop

Not Pop
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I'm actually having trouble with an artist and looked up whether she'd be R&B or Pop. Rather than have the debate, I went punk, hoping she'd be selected.

 
Eephus said:
As opposed to the one about shawty going down on me
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Please don’t imply I picked a song about receiving oral sex. It’s about seeing a lonely woman dancing by herself, offering to buy her free drinks and engaging in a stimulating bump n grind session at the club. It’s really quite Victorian if you ask me. 

 
Eephus said:
I think the last part of this definition is significant.  Green Day had several songs on the Billboard Hot 100 this century which makes them hits but I'd argue they're not Pop songs.  They'd be draftable as Rock or Punk and wouldn't sound out of place in those mixes.  But they'd stand out in the Pop mix.  By the same token, "The Real Slim Shady" isn't a Pop song for me but a Pop song could have a rapped verse.  I think the softest boundary is probably between Pop and R&B.  There have been a number of R&B songs drafted that could also be considered Pop.  Pop R&B is bit more scrubbed than Urban R&B.

I realize musical monoculture died a long time ago but everybody who's lived in this century should have some idea of what Pop radio sounded like.  Your Pop pick doesn't necessarily have to be a song that charted but try to think of the mix when selecting.
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Why do you have to go and make things so complicated?

 
Eephus said:
Spreadsheet updated to here except for @rockaction's three-in-one punk pick.

I've added ####ed Up to the playlist but pick one for the spreadsheet.
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But those two are probably shorter combined than the Spotify pick! 

I think just stick with the Spotify pick as the one to put on the sheet. The other two were just for discussion and appreciation. I figured nobody was picking those songs (even though this board often surprises me) because they weren't on Spotify, so I'd throw them out there. They were really the final two in the thought process of aughts and teens bands that had never been mentioned at any time here on this board, and I was disappointed to look for their comps and albums and find them missing (Recess is often on Spotify and has an arrangement with them) from availability, and therefore, unwritten eligibility for this draft.

 
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10.09 ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead, Source Tags & Codes (RockRock; 2002)

Had a bunch of Rock choices written down, but wanted to sort them for one I hadn't drafted as much. Hadn't stopped to listen to this album in ages, but man, it still sounds great.

 
rockaction said:
But those two are probably shorter combined than the Spotify pick! 

I think just stick with the Spotify pick as the one to put on the sheet. The other two were just for discussion and appreciation. I figured nobody was picking those songs (even though this board often surprises me) because they weren't on Spotify, so I'd throw them out there. They were really the final two in the thought process of aughts and teens bands that had never been mentioned at any time here on this board, and I was disappointed to look for their comps and albums and find them missing (Recess is often on Spotify and has an arrangement with them) from availability, and therefore, unwritten eligibility for this draft.
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That ####ed Up song is one of Cookie Monster's best recordings

 
As of round 12, categories with remaining rolls

1 - Female, Country

0 - Dance, Pop

Seems suspicious that two different d12 results didn't come up in 24 rolls. :rolleyes:

 
Thread title is $. I feel like I'm flinging poo back-and-forth for no razon, and to the detriment of myself. :bag:

I don't understand the tally of the dice, but I'll just play it as it lays. 

 
I had a punk song all picked out and Youtube ready to go and then the best punk band came on after via autoplay and now I'm having doubts... what am I supposed to do now.

 
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OK, this is my round 11 re-pick. I am going to try the Rap category for the 1st time here. I am not very knowledgeable on 21st century Rap/HipHip/Trap. If this was the Sugar Hill Gang era - I'd be killin' it, but - well - I hope this fits. According to my web thingy, it is listed as, "Genres: Film music, Hip-Hop/Rap". Once again, if I am not hit'n the mark, let me know, and I will re-select.

11.xx The Black Keys / RZA - The Baddest Man Alive (Rap; 2012) - Spotify link

If anyone fails to understand how this fits my theme, then...well...I am disappointed fer ya!

;)

My round 12 pick will follow later tonight, as I still have some guests hang'n round.

 
Northern Voice said:
I'll go with a different Toronto punk band known for their incredible live shows. Can't find record of me drafting them before, though I may have.

12.13 - This is How it Goes - Billy Talent - Punk
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We saw them open for the Buzzcocks a few months before this album came out in 2003.  They played as if their lives depended on it.

We have this lovely show poster on the wall for some reason. 

 
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Round 12 - finally catch'n up.

I am still not super clear on some of the category sub-types; this track is listed as: "Blues rock/indie rock/trip hop/neo-soul" according to Wikipedia; so I think I am in the clear.

12.xx The Heavy - Short Change Hero (R&B; 2009) - Spotify link

I came across this accidentally around its release date, in '09. I have absolutely no clue as to how "mainstream" it is. It has been on my favorites playlist since then. The lyrics, while not as powerful to me as some of my earlier picks, are still strong imo.


I can't see where you comin' from
But I know just what you runnin' from
And what matters ain't the, who's baddest but
The ones who stop you fallin' from your ladder, baby

Feel like you feelin' now
I'm doin' things just to please your crowd
When I love you like the way I love you
And I suffer, but I ain't gonna cut you 'cause

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

Every time I close my eyes, I think
I think about you inside
And your mother, givin' up on askin' why
Why you lie, and you cheat, and you try to make
A fool outta she

I can't see where you comin' from
But I know just what you're runnin' from
And what matters ain't the, who's baddest but the
Ones who stop you fallin' from your ladder, 'cause

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home


 
Man of Constant Sorrow said:
Round 12 - finally catch'n up.

I am still not super clear on some of the category sub-types; this track is listed as: "Blues rock/indie rock/trip hop/neo-soul" according to Wikipedia; so I think I am in the clear.

12.xx The Heavy - Short Change Hero (R&B; 2009) - Spotify link

I came across this accidentally around its release date, in '09. I have absolutely no clue as to how "mainstream" it is. It has been on my favorites playlist since then. The lyrics, while not as powerful to me as some of my earlier picks, are still strong imo.


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I can't see where you comin' from
But I know just what you runnin' from
And what matters ain't the, who's baddest but
The ones who stop you fallin' from your ladder, baby

Feel like you feelin' now
I'm doin' things just to please your crowd
When I love you like the way I love you
And I suffer, but I ain't gonna cut you 'cause

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

Every time I close my eyes, I think
I think about you inside
And your mother, givin' up on askin' why
Why you lie, and you cheat, and you try to make
A fool outta she

I can't see where you comin' from
But I know just what you're runnin' from
And what matters ain't the, who's baddest but the
Ones who stop you fallin' from your ladder, 'cause

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home

This ain't no place for no hero
This ain't no place for no better man
This ain't no place for no hero
To call home
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I've always liked this song but the minute twenty intro is about a minute too long.

 
Eephus said:
I've always liked this song but the minute twenty intro is about a minute too long.
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Thnx man. 🙂

Also, I really am glad that I could draft this song, RIGHT AFTER my last pick ( The Baddest Man Alive)...

...because of this particular lyric:

And what matters ain't the, who's baddest but the
Ones who stop you fallin' from your ladder, ...
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