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While I'm rooting hard for my Jets , the TITANS would be FOOLS to not draft or trade up for Bush.
Would seem that the Jets have more ammo to deal.
Would seem that the Jets have more ammo to deal.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
McAllister just signed that huge contract. Dont know what the salary cap ramifications are of having two huge pay days for the same position on a team with a lot of holes....I don't understand everyone that's saying that "the Saints aren't going to draft Bush because they have McAllister." Last I check, McAllister has done much the last few years. I've been a loyal Saints fan for years, and I've seen them blow pick after pick atfer pick. Now is the time to grab that one special player that's going to be the staple of the organization. An offensive lineman just won't cut it now. We've been down that road before. I think that they're now in the same boat as the Texans now. If they past on Bush, they'll have to go deep in the playoffs. If not, the fans are going to go Detroit on them.
P.S. - Can you image the chip that Bush is going to be playing with?
You want RB busts. OK, since 1982 here are the pretty bad top 1st round picks:1982 - #7 Darrin Nelson, #9 Gerald Riggs (OK) #12 Walter Abercrombie, #14 Barry ReddenI want Reggie Bush over EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT ARE BOLDED.Thats a less than 50% hit rate. What do you think it is for RBs? It's been said before, Dline is the highest bust rate of all positions.Cherry picking the bad DL is like looking at Ryan Leaf et al and ignoring Aikman, Manning, etc. There are plenty of impact DL that have been taken early like Bruce Smith, Reggie White (USFL-but would have gone very early in NFL as well), Richard Seymour, Peppers, etc.
1983 - #8 Michael Haddix, #13 James Jones
1984 - None taken top 15
1985 - None taken top 15
1986 - #10 Keith Byars (not a bad player, but #10 overall?), #15 John L. Williams (OK)
1987 - #3 Alonzo Highsmith, #4 Brent Fullwood, #14 DJ Dozier (Paul Palmer, Roger Vick, Rod Bernstine and Terrence Flagler round out the rest of the 1st round) :X
1988 - #14 Gaston Green (John Stephens, Lorenzo White, Brad Muster and Craig Heyward round out the rest of the 1st round) :X
1989 - Barry Sanders was #3, but how about Tim Worley at #7 and Sammie Smith at #9?
1990 - #2 Blair Thomas
1991 - #14 Leonard Russell
1992 - None taken top 15 (only 1st rounders were Tony Smith and Vaughn Dunbar)
1993 - #3 Garrison Hearst (solid player, but he was #3 overall)
1994 - Only Marshall Faulk in top 24
1995 - #1 KiJana Carter
1996 - #6 Lawrence Phillips, #8 Tim Biakabutuka
1997 - Only Warrick Dunn in top 20
1998 - #5 Curtis Enis
1999 - Only Edge and Suspension Man (RW) in 1st round
2000 - #7 Thomas Jones (still a bust as far as the draft goes), #11 Ron Dayne
2001 - Only LT in top 20
2002 - None taken top 15, William Green first pick at #16
2003 - None taken top 15
2004 - None taken top 15
2005 - So far #4 Benson not looking good, but too early to tell on all of them. Ronnie Brown at #2 really better put up some real solid stats to live up to the #2 overall pick.
If you look through the rest of the top 15, I would say 13 of the RB picks from 1982 to 2004 (not counting 2005 yet) in the top 15 overall were very good and successful picks. That means that 23 of 36 would be considered underplaying draft position with most of them being outright busts. That is a 36% hit rate, so RB isn't exactly a safe early first round pick either.
I would bet that every single position taken in the top 15 probably has about the same hit ratio, aside from things like C/G/S where there probably is too small a sample.
Grey Pilgrim
Lurker Extraordinare
Again, I HATE THE TEXANS I hope Casserly rots in hell for this last screw over before he's kicked off the team.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I all ready asked this but what does Tenn have to trade? Jets have TWO 1st rounders.
jurb26
Footballguy
Do you have the actually numbers. This is what I have heard reported from Scouts.com and other news outlets. Dline has highest bust rate and I think they said QB was 2nd. I have no numbers though, just what I heard. If you have them I'd be interested as I'm sure everyone would.Take a closer look at QBs and WRs.....Thats a less than 50% hit rate. What do you think it is for RBs? It's been said before, Dline is the highest bust rate of all positions.
obxlegends
Footballguy
Did anyone have this in their mock draft? 
Jason Wood
Zoo York
We'll know soon enough; but I will gladly make a sig bet with you LHUCKS that Bush is the 2nd pick...whether it's to New Orleans or via trade.
So even if Williams tragically dies in his sleep before the draft, the Texans have already drafted him and are stuck?Hey Jeff,That's not really true. Mario Williams has been offered and has signed a contract with the Texans. Charlie Casserly has been on the NFL Network and ESPN talking about why they made that decision. ESPN, NFL Network and even the Texans website are acknowledging the deal.Nothing is a done deal until at least noon tomorrow.
That would be when Mario (or Bush) could officially become a Texan.
Texasmouth - sorry if you're upset at my
Whether it's the right decision or not, it's done, Mario Williams is the 1st choice in the 2006 NFL Draft.
And if Peyton Manning accidentally snaps his neck cleaning out his gutters tonight, the Colts will take a hard look at Charlie Whitehurst at the end of the first round.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Oho, Texasmouth, turns he's not actually a Texan after all yet!
Just kidding. I presume he will sign, if he hasn't already. I just think there was a lot of jumping the gun here.
Isn't this fun? I was hoping for a little drama to discuss tonight.......I honestly never thought the Texans were sold on Bush. I am sold on Bush, but I never thought the Texans were.
You want RB busts. OK, since 1982 here are the pretty bad top 1st round picks:1982 - #7 Darrin Nelson, #9 Gerald Riggs (OK) #12 Walter Abercrombie, #14 Barry ReddenI want Reggie Bush over EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT ARE BOLDED.Thats a less than 50% hit rate. What do you think it is for RBs? It's been said before, Dline is the highest bust rate of all positions.
1983 - #8 Michael Haddix, #13 James Jones
1984 - None taken top 15
1985 - None taken top 15
1986 - #10 Keith Byars (not a bad player, but #10 overall?), #15 John L. Williams (OK)
1987 - #3 Alonzo Highsmith, #4 Brent Fullwood, #14 DJ Dozier (Paul Palmer, Roger Vick, Rod Bernstine and Terrence Flagler round out the rest of the 1st round) :X
1988 - #14 Gaston Green (John Stephens, Lorenzo White, Brad Muster and Craig Heyward round out the rest of the 1st round) :X
1989 - Barry Sanders was #3, but how about Tim Worley at #7 and Sammie Smith at #9?
1990 - #2 Blair Thomas
1991 - #14 Leonard Russell
1992 - None taken top 15 (only 1st rounders were Tony Smith and Vaughn Dunbar)
1993 - #3 Garrison Hearst (solid player, but he was #3 overall)
1994 - Only Marshall Faulk in top 24
1995 - #1 KiJana Carter
1996 - #6 Lawrence Phillips, #8 Tim Biakabutuka
1997 - Only Warrick Dunn in top 20
1998 - #5 Curtis Enis
1999 - Only Edge and Suspension Man (RW) in 1st round
2000 - #7 Thomas Jones (still a bust as far as the draft goes), #11 Ron Dayne
2001 - Only LT in top 20
2002 - None taken top 15, William Green first pick at #16
2003 - None taken top 15
2004 - None taken top 15
2005 - So far #4 Benson not looking good, but too early to tell on all of them. Ronnie Brown at #2 really better put up some real solid stats to live up to the #2 overall pick.
If you look through the rest of the top 15, I would say 13 of the RB picks from 1982 to 2004 (not counting 2005 yet) in the top 15 overall were very good and successful picks. That means that 23 of 36 would be considered underplaying draft position with most of them being outright busts. That is a 36% hit rate, so RB isn't exactly a safe early first round pick either.
I would bet that every single position taken in the top 15 probably has about the same hit ratio, aside from things like C/G/S where there probably is too small a sample.
Shermanator
Footballguy
/realitycheck/I agree that the NFL draft is like Christmas in April. BUT, I aint losing any nuts for any player. period.
/endrealitycheck/
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Check out LHUCKS mock contest.....Did anyone have this in their mock draft?
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
They have fired up the phone lines already....
Bush to Saints? Hopefully not Titans since I own Chris Brown.
HOUSTON (AP) — The Houston Texans got the NFL draft off to a stunning start a day early, bypassing Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush and instead signing defensive end Mario Williams with the No. 1 pick Friday night.
Houston started negotiating with both Williams and Bush this week. While many expected the Southern California running back to be the Texans’ choice, they went for the North Carolina State lineman instead.
“This is a decision that took a lot of time to make, but at the end of the day we felt this was the best player for our football team,” general manager Charley Casserly said. “Both players, Reggie Bush and Mario Williams, are going to, I think, be great pros. We made the decision to go with defense.”
Bush has been embroiled in some controversy this week concerning who paid the rent for a home his parents lived in, and whether an agent was involved — which would be an NCAA rules violation. Whether that played a role in the decision to go with Williams was unclear.
In any case, it took all the suspense out of how Saturday’s draft would start.
The Texans’ move left the New Orleans Saints with an opportunity to take Bush as the No. 2 pick.
Williams becomes the first defensive end taken No. 1 overall since Courtney Brown went to the Cleveland Browns in 2000. He also becomes the 12th defensive lineman to be picked at the top of the draft.
The 6-foot-61/2, 292-pound Williams, who left school a year early to enter the draft, has been described as a cross between Julius Peppers and Lawrence Taylor.
He saw his stock soar after his amazing performance at the NFL combine in February, running the 40-yard dash in 4.73 seconds, and doing 35 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press.
There were some questions about his work ethic after getting sacks in 11 of his last 23 games, but he has the potential to dominate.
“I have the size and the speed and the athleticism, and to find that in a defensive end is rare,” Williams said earlier this week at an interview session in New York. “You just don’t see it all the time. I think the last time was Julius Peppers and you know what kind of player he is.
“Everywhere I went, they said, ’We want you.”’
Williams surely will help a Texans defense that ranked 31st total defense last season; 32nd against the rush and 24th against the pass. The Texans, who haven’t had a winning season in their four-year existence, got the first pick after going 2-14 this past season.
HOUSTON (AP) — The Houston Texans got the NFL draft off to a stunning start a day early, bypassing Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush and instead signing defensive end Mario Williams with the No. 1 pick Friday night.
Houston started negotiating with both Williams and Bush this week. While many expected the Southern California running back to be the Texans’ choice, they went for the North Carolina State lineman instead.
“This is a decision that took a lot of time to make, but at the end of the day we felt this was the best player for our football team,” general manager Charley Casserly said. “Both players, Reggie Bush and Mario Williams, are going to, I think, be great pros. We made the decision to go with defense.”
Bush has been embroiled in some controversy this week concerning who paid the rent for a home his parents lived in, and whether an agent was involved — which would be an NCAA rules violation. Whether that played a role in the decision to go with Williams was unclear.
In any case, it took all the suspense out of how Saturday’s draft would start.
The Texans’ move left the New Orleans Saints with an opportunity to take Bush as the No. 2 pick.
Williams becomes the first defensive end taken No. 1 overall since Courtney Brown went to the Cleveland Browns in 2000. He also becomes the 12th defensive lineman to be picked at the top of the draft.
The 6-foot-61/2, 292-pound Williams, who left school a year early to enter the draft, has been described as a cross between Julius Peppers and Lawrence Taylor.
He saw his stock soar after his amazing performance at the NFL combine in February, running the 40-yard dash in 4.73 seconds, and doing 35 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press.
There were some questions about his work ethic after getting sacks in 11 of his last 23 games, but he has the potential to dominate.
“I have the size and the speed and the athleticism, and to find that in a defensive end is rare,” Williams said earlier this week at an interview session in New York. “You just don’t see it all the time. I think the last time was Julius Peppers and you know what kind of player he is.
“Everywhere I went, they said, ’We want you.”’
Williams surely will help a Texans defense that ranked 31st total defense last season; 32nd against the rush and 24th against the pass. The Texans, who haven’t had a winning season in their four-year existence, got the first pick after going 2-14 this past season.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
NO, YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT! I'm asking if it is "official." Official meaning that its already locked in stone. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I'm asking a serious question: Is this pick now already made and will be enforced NO MATTER WHAT or is this just a verbal committment.I think this is a key question and very important.We'll know soon enough; but I will gladly make a sig bet with you LHUCKS that Bush is the 2nd pick...whether it's to New Orleans or via trade.So even if Williams tragically dies in his sleep before the draft, the Texans have already drafted him and are stuck?Hey Jeff,That's not really true. Mario Williams has been offered and has signed a contract with the Texans. Charlie Casserly has been on the NFL Network and ESPN talking about why they made that decision. ESPN, NFL Network and even the Texans website are acknowledging the deal.Nothing is a done deal until at least noon tomorrow.
That would be when Mario (or Bush) could officially become a Texan.
Texasmouth - sorry if you're upset at my
Whether it's the right decision or not, it's done, Mario Williams is the 1st choice in the 2006 NFL Draft.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Sheer.... utter.... chaos.
Gotta love it.
I had thoughts that this could be the most memorable 1st round in some time, and now it has started 15 hours early....
Gotta love it.
I had thoughts that this could be the most memorable 1st round in some time, and now it has started 15 hours early....
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Using the traditional draft value chart...Jets have the 4th and 29th picks...which equals 2,440 points; whereas the 2nd pick is worth 2,600 points. Not enough to move up, particularly given how special Reggie Bush is perceived to be.
Meanwhile Tennessee has the 3rd pick (2,200 points) and 39th (510 points), which equates to 2,710 points...technically more than enough to move up to 2.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
The Saints have to absolutely love the Texans right now. Not only did they make the surprise move...but they made it with PLENTY of time for the Saints to get a good deal. If this happens tomorrow at the draft, then they only have 15 minutes to make a trade. Now they have more than 15 hours. Go big or go home Jets/Packers/49ers/etc.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I'm going to go hunt for this answer. This was my basis for my "nothing is official until Saturday at noon" comment.My understanding is that the team with the first pick can negotiate a contract before the draft. As far as whether that is a 100% commitment, legally and officially, I'll have to check.NO, YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT! I'm asking if it is "official." Official meaning that its already locked in stone. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I'm asking a serious question: Is this pick now already made and will be enforced NO MATTER WHAT or is this just a verbal committment.I think this is a key question and very important.We'll know soon enough; but I will gladly make a sig bet with you LHUCKS that Bush is the 2nd pick...whether it's to New Orleans or via trade.So even if Williams tragically dies in his sleep before the draft, the Texans have already drafted him and are stuck?Hey Jeff,That's not really true. Mario Williams has been offered and has signed a contract with the Texans. Charlie Casserly has been on the NFL Network and ESPN talking about why they made that decision. ESPN, NFL Network and even the Texans website are acknowledging the deal.Nothing is a done deal until at least noon tomorrow.
That would be when Mario (or Bush) could officially become a Texan.
Texasmouth - sorry if you're upset at my
Whether it's the right decision or not, it's done, Mario Williams is the 1st choice in the 2006 NFL Draft.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Draft chart aside, I would rather have the 4th and 29th any day, especially since you all ready know that the Titans are taking a QB. YOu also don't have to pay the #4 the same as the #3.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I believe the contract isn't binding until the actual draft beings; but I'm no legal expert.NO, YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT! I'm asking if it is "official." Official meaning that its already locked in stone. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I'm asking a serious question: Is this pick now already made and will be enforced NO MATTER WHAT or is this just a verbal committment.I think this is a key question and very important.We'll know soon enough; but I will gladly make a sig bet with you LHUCKS that Bush is the 2nd pick...whether it's to New Orleans or via trade.So even if Williams tragically dies in his sleep before the draft, the Texans have already drafted him and are stuck?Hey Jeff,That's not really true. Mario Williams has been offered and has signed a contract with the Texans. Charlie Casserly has been on the NFL Network and ESPN talking about why they made that decision. ESPN, NFL Network and even the Texans website are acknowledging the deal.Nothing is a done deal until at least noon tomorrow.
That would be when Mario (or Bush) could officially become a Texan.
Texasmouth - sorry if you're upset at my
Whether it's the right decision or not, it's done, Mario Williams is the 1st choice in the 2006 NFL Draft.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
You know what I just realised?
Reggie Bush said many times before the draft that he would be very disappointed if he wasn't the #1 pick. We all know he has serious skills, but on a team like the Jets (I think it would be special for them not to trade up) with a HUGE chip on his shoulder, I could see him putting his team on his shoulders and just destroying the competition. He will want to be out their every play to PROVE to the Texans that they ####ed up royally.
HOUSTON TEXANS AT NEW YORK JETS NOVEMBER 26!!!
Reggie Bush said many times before the draft that he would be very disappointed if he wasn't the #1 pick. We all know he has serious skills, but on a team like the Jets (I think it would be special for them not to trade up) with a HUGE chip on his shoulder, I could see him putting his team on his shoulders and just destroying the competition. He will want to be out their every play to PROVE to the Texans that they ####ed up royally.
HOUSTON TEXANS AT NEW YORK JETS NOVEMBER 26!!!
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
But realisticaly, the 3rd and 4th picks are probably worth the exact same to the Saints since moving to 4 with the Jets means Tenn will take a QB who the Saints have no interest in anyway.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
You may rather have two first rounders, but history (and Jimmy Johnson) clearly would disagree with you
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
A Thurman Thomas type chip?
Texasmouth
Footballguy
The Saints should have to give the Texans a conditional draft pick or something..... 
The actual pick is not "official" until Big Paul gets up there and says the name and team and gives the hat to the player AFTER THE DRAFT STARTS. But if you think the Texans are going to post on their own website about signing a guy and then pull the contract and take Bush please donate your nards to the two guys who want to donate them to the NFLI'm going to go hunt for this answer. This was my basis for my "nothing is official until Saturday at noon" comment.My understanding is that the team with the first pick can negotiate a contract before the draft. As far as whether that is a 100% commitment, legally and officially, I'll have to check.NO, YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT! I'm asking if it is "official." Official meaning that its already locked in stone. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I'm asking a serious question: Is this pick now already made and will be enforced NO MATTER WHAT or is this just a verbal committment.I think this is a key question and very important.We'll know soon enough; but I will gladly make a sig bet with you LHUCKS that Bush is the 2nd pick...whether it's to New Orleans or via trade.So even if Williams tragically dies in his sleep before the draft, the Texans have already drafted him and are stuck?Hey Jeff,That's not really true. Mario Williams has been offered and has signed a contract with the Texans. Charlie Casserly has been on the NFL Network and ESPN talking about why they made that decision. ESPN, NFL Network and even the Texans website are acknowledging the deal.Nothing is a done deal until at least noon tomorrow.
That would be when Mario (or Bush) could officially become a Texan.
Texasmouth - sorry if you're upset at my
Whether it's the right decision or not, it's done, Mario Williams is the 1st choice in the 2006 NFL Draft.
CalBear
Footballguy
The draft chart, though, doesn't tell the whole story. If NO wants D'Brick, and they figure on Tenn taking a QB, the Jets have more to offer than Tenn; NO can get D'Brick and the #29 pick instead of D'Brick and the #39 pick. The only catch is that Tenn could choose D'Brick instead of Leinart/Young, or someone could trade up to the #3 to take D'Brick, but neither of those seems likely.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Why on Earth is that the voice of reason? The reason people refer to "the chart" is because a) Jimmy Johnson revolutionized draft value and trading with it and b) it's become the starting point for all such negotiations. Very clearly the 3rd and 39th picks are worth more than the 4th and 29th.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Way different situation there. We KNOW the Titans are taking a QB. The Saints dont need a QB. The 29th pick is far better than 10 picks later at 39. The 3rd and 4th pick have the smae value in my opinion because the Saints will still get whatever player they want at 4.You may rather have two first rounders, but history (and Jimmy Johnson) clearly would disagree with you
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
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