In A Pick Your Coach Draft, Where Does Nick Sirianni Rank Among Active NFL Head Coaches? (1 Viewer)

[JAA]

We have entered what has become an annual tradition here of "The Eagles have an Easy schedule"

I think with the 2nd easiest schedule, questions about how they'd fare against a really good team were appropriate.

This year, their schedule is not the super cream puff it was last year, but still only the 10th most difficult schedule.

Switching to SNF. This game is over. Bills lose again.

They're back to cupcake schedule after tonight though.

no team in the league has a softer schedule to finish than Eagles.

A top 3 roster in the league with a cupcake rest of schedule.

Eagles 3 point favorite playing a reeling team with their backup QB.

most expect Eagles to get the Seattle backup.

And to be clear - Drew Lock is an incredible QB so in no way shape or form does this make it an easier game or fortunate for Philadelphia.

The last four opponents you face to finish the regular season are a combined 19-36. (But they DEFINITELY are really tough opponents.)

But Seattle is not a good team and Drew Lock is not a good quarterback.

more talented roster facing Drew Lock.

facing the guy who was the backup to Tommy DeVito.

the Cardinals are one of the worst teams in the league.

Do you disagree the Cardinals are one of the worst teams in the league?

The Eagles played some bad opponents in December

Wow are the Jaguars bad. Yikes.

Yikes.

Are some of those from previous years?

Is there a point there?

Yikes.

All the love to JB as this is his site, but what's also true is he is a well known Eagles hater.

 

[Joe Bryant]

We have entered what has become an annual tradition here of "The Eagles have an Easy schedule"

I think with the 2nd easiest schedule, questions about how they'd fare against a really good team were appropriate.

This year, their schedule is not the super cream puff it was last year, but still only the 10th most difficult schedule.

Switching to SNF. This game is over. Bills lose again.

They're back to cupcake schedule after tonight though.

no team in the league has a softer schedule to finish than Eagles.

A top 3 roster in the league with a cupcake rest of schedule.

Eagles 3 point favorite playing a reeling team with their backup QB.

most expect Eagles to get the Seattle backup.

And to be clear - Drew Lock is an incredible QB so in no way shape or form does this make it an easier game or fortunate for Philadelphia.

The last four opponents you face to finish the regular season are a combined 19-36. (But they DEFINITELY are really tough opponents.)

But Seattle is not a good team and Drew Lock is not a good quarterback.

more talented roster facing Drew Lock.

facing the guy who was the backup to Tommy DeVito.

the Cardinals are one of the worst teams in the league.

Do you disagree the Cardinals are one of the worst teams in the league?

The Eagles played some bad opponents in December

Wow are the Jaguars bad. Yikes.

Yikes.

Are some of those from previous years?

Is there a point there?

Yikes.

All the love to JB as this is his site, but what's also true is he is a well known Eagles hater.

Those don't look like the posts of an "Eagles hater".

But good luck to the Eagles, Sunday. I don't have a real preference as both teams are obviously outstanding. As a fan of the league, hoping for a good game.

 

[Deamon]

We have entered what has become an annual tradition here of "The Eagles have an Easy schedule"

I think with the 2nd easiest schedule, questions about how they'd fare against a really good team were appropriate.

This year, their schedule is not the super cream puff it was last year, but still only the 10th most difficult schedule.

Switching to SNF. This game is over. Bills lose again.

They're back to cupcake schedule after tonight though.

no team in the league has a softer schedule to finish than Eagles.

A top 3 roster in the league with a cupcake rest of schedule.

Eagles 3 point favorite playing a reeling team with their backup QB.

most expect Eagles to get the Seattle backup.

And to be clear - Drew Lock is an incredible QB so in no way shape or form does this make it an easier game or fortunate for Philadelphia.

The last four opponents you face to finish the regular season are a combined 19-36. (But they DEFINITELY are really tough opponents.)

But Seattle is not a good team and Drew Lock is not a good quarterback.

more talented roster facing Drew Lock.

facing the guy who was the backup to Tommy DeVito.

the Cardinals are one of the worst teams in the league.

Do you disagree the Cardinals are one of the worst teams in the league?

The Eagles played some bad opponents in December

Wow are the Jaguars bad. Yikes.

Yikes.

Are some of those from previous years?

Is there a point there?

Yikes.

All the love to JB as this is his site, but what's also true is he is a well known Eagles hater.

Exactly.

 

[Joe Bryant]

This thread is aging well!

Agreed. Things changing is part of sports and one of the things that makes it interesting.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Update?

 

[Terpman22]

Hey @Joe Bryant how’s those convos w your homie going? Curious member of a fan of the current world champs.

 

[LTsharks]

Changing my vote. 1-4

 

[Insein]

For the record, I chose top 4 even when this thread started.

 

[need2know]

For the record, I chose top 4 even when this thread started.

Me too. Players love him
Record speaks for itself. I was doubting him at times but im all in

 

[travdogg]

He's annoying, but he did an amazing job delegating and making some tough calls. Also kept team VERY focused on winning. I voted 1-4.

If I'd have voted when the thread started, I'd have said, 5-8.

 

[Snotbubbles]

For the record, I chose top 4 even when this thread started.

Me too. Players love him
Record speaks for itself. I was doubting him at times but im all in

I didn't vote but my first post at worst you'd have to put him in the top half. Now he solidified himself as a top 10 easily, maybe top 5.

 

[fred_1_15301]

For the record, I chose top 4 even when this thread started.

Me too. Players love him
Record speaks for itself. I was doubting him at times but im all in

I didn't vote but my first post at worst you'd have to put him in the top half. Now he solidified himself as a top 10 easily, maybe top 5.

Not even a question he’s top 5. How can you possibly name 5 coaches better than him right now? Results matter.

 

[jm192]

I think Reid is a clear #1 in regards to being the best coach.

Then there's plenty of room for debate who is 2+

Strictly looking at Super Bowls

Siriani with 2 SB appearances and 1 championship has as good a case as anyone.
McVay has been in 2 and won 1.
Tomlin has been in 2 and won 1.
John Harbaugh has won 1.

To Joe's question: Where would he go in a draft? Reid and Harbaugh get dinged for age.

I think there's a 1A/1B thing with Siriani/McVay. Siriana has had more success of late, and maybe you look at the trend and lean his way.
I still think McVay is a very good coach and he's 4 years younger. He has less talent of late too.

I think you can certainly make a case for Dan Campbell too. The Lions have had amazing success under him. His players love him. If they don't have such extensive injuries, maybe they're the ones raising the trophy today.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

For the record, I chose top 4 even when this thread started.

And right now he’s the 1 of 1, period.

 

[Donnybrook]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

How much of that talent did the HC coach up or surround with coaches who could?

 

[rockaction]

How much of that talent did the HC coach up or surround with coaches who could?

I don't want to argue with an Eagles fan the night they win the Super Bowl, but if your own homer thread is to be believed, Howie Roseman had everything to do with the coaches being hired and Sirianni's job was to get along with them and abide. IIRC, that whole thread was all about firing him if he didn't do that or wasn't able to do that with these guys.

My, how things change.

 

[travdogg]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Roseman has been an excellent GM, but even he has some recent notable whiffs. Bryce Huff was a healthy scratch for the Super Bowl, after signing a 3/51 deal this offseason. They got nothing out of James Bradberry who signed a 3/36 deal before the 2023 season. Traded a 3 for Jahan Dotson.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Howie Roseman had everything to do with the coaches being hired and Sirianni's job was to get along with them and abide.

Cool. That’s not true. The HC has a big say.

 

[Terpman22]

How much of that talent did the HC coach up or surround with coaches who could?

I don't want to argue with an Eagles fan the night they win the Super Bowl, but if your own homer thread is to be believed, Howie Roseman had everything to do with the coaches being hired and Sirianni's job was to get along with them and abide. IIRC, that whole thread was all about firing him if he didn't do that or wasn't able to do that with these guys.

My, how things change.

Things definitely change fast when a GM gets his 2nd Super Bowl or a Head Coach gets his first. Thats kind of the point of all us Eagles fans you surely hate arguing with, bumping this thread on this very night. Especially when a majority of people aid each guy was overrated/lucky/one-hit-wonders/what do they even really do-guys from a large majority media standpoint and in my view, even larger here

Anyone lol dropping Sirianni from their initial ranking here just to push credit toward other areas and away from Sirianni to I guess drag along an obviously failed narrative? Doesn’t the record + tonight kind of stand in its own at this point or nah? Does him winning a Super Bowl when you thought he was trash make his face even *more* obvious lol punchable, or would you be man enough to admit you were way wrong about him and give him his due that he’s doing something obviously right?

Raise your hand please.

 

[Donnybrook]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Roseman has been an excellent GM, but even he has some recent notable whiffs. Bryce Huff was a healthy scratch for the Super Bowl, after signing a 3/51 deal this offseason. They got nothing out of James Bradberry who signed a 3/36 deal before the 2023 season. Traded a 3 for Jahan Dotson.

I think that tells you what kinda of depth they have when Huff is a healthy scratch. Dotson is still has another year on his rookie contract. And it's pretty hard for James Bradberry to contribute when he is on IR.

A whiff would be most other teams would spending a 1st on Lewis Cine.

 

[Deamon]

voted 9-12. Now would vote 5-8, but probably closer to 5.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

The team was 2-2 heading into the BYE in week 5. Jalen Hurts was throwing over 30 times a game and had a bunch of interceptions. During the BYE week, the team totally changed its offensive approach and started limiting Hurts pass attempts (went from 30+ a game to around 22 a game).

There were still coaching decision issues at that point from Sirianni. He would give up easy FGs to go for it on 4th down. But after the Jacksonville game, I think he really started trusting his defense and just started taking points. From that point on, they were the best team in the league. It was a lot of growth and self reflection from the coach. You have to give him credit for it.

ETA: In this Superbowl run Sirianni bested Lafleur, McVay, Quinn and Reid. I think just about every game all we heard was the other team had the better coach and QB (well...maybe not from GB but the last 3 games certainly).

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Gotta move him up my board, not sure how far at the moment but have the off season to figure it out

 

[menobrown]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Great ownership trumps all of it and Lurie is steady building a HOF resume. Was wondering this last night, is Lurie the first owner to hire 3 head coaches that took his team to a SB?

 

[joey]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Great ownership trumps all of it and Lurie is steady building a HOF resume. Was wondering this last night, is Lurie the first owner to hire 3 head coaches that took his team to a SB?

[Gulp]. Al Davis?

Signed,
Raiders Fan who can only live in the past

 

[menobrown]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Great ownership trumps all of it and Lurie is steady building a HOF resume. Was wondering this last night, is Lurie the first owner to hire 3 head coaches that took his team to a SB?

[Gulp]. Al Davis?

Signed,
Raiders Fan who can only live in the past

Thanks, should have known that, been so long I forgot, was to focused on modern history, lol.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Nick Sirianni is the fourth NFL head coach to lead their team to an 18+ win season (including playoffs), joining Bill Belichick (2007), Bill Walsh (1984) and Mike Ditka (1985).

Nick Sirianni is the first Super Bowl Era head coach to make four straight playoff appearances with two Super Bowl berths and a championship in their first four career seasons.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Roseman has been an excellent GM, but even he has some recent notable whiffs. Bryce Huff was a healthy scratch for the Super Bowl, after signing a 3/51 deal this offseason. They got nothing out of James Bradberry who signed a 3/36 deal before the 2023 season. Traded a 3 for Jahan Dotson.

I think Bradberry is toast but the others have room for improvement. Dotson was good for 1 or 2 crucial catches per game as the season went on -- that's the role Jason Avant used to play for us, and he was ... a third-round pick. With a full offseason, his role could grow. Huff was awful before the bye but seemed to be playing better after the bye before he got hurt. He may be useful next year.

 

[joey]

I starting to wonder if a great GM trumps coaching. I have a hard time disagreeing with any of the front office moves of Howie Roseman and Brad Holmes even as a Viking fan. I don't really follow the AFC GMs as closely. Siriani is good coach but that team is seriously loaded with talent.

Great ownership trumps all of it and Lurie is steady building a HOF resume. Was wondering this last night, is Lurie the first owner to hire 3 head coaches that took his team to a SB?

[Gulp]. Al Davis?

Signed,
Raiders Fan who can only live in the past

Thanks, should have known that, been so long I forgot, was to focused on modern history, lol.

Modern history ≠ Raiders success

 

[BobbyLayne]

4 NFL coaches have won 18 games in a season, including playoffs.

• Walsh 1984 49ers
• Ditka 1985 Bears
• Belichick 2007 Pats
• Siriani* 2024 Eagles

* + Beat one of the 12 teams to have won 17 games.

 

[Deamon]

Only three head coaches have a .700 win percentage and a Super Bowl championship.

Vince Lombardi
John Madden
Nick Sirianni

 

[Deamon]

This thread is aging well!

Agreed. Things changing is part of sports and one of the things that makes it interesting.

What exact number would you put him at now?

 

[joey]

Only three head coaches have a .700 win percentage and a Super Bowl championship.

Vince Lombardi
John Madden
Nick Sirianni

There’s that Raiders history again…

This just in: Sirianni is a current top 5 coach.

 

[crushedspirit]

For me he was already top-3 even before the SB win.

 

[Deamon]

For me he was already top-3 even before the SB win.

Ya I had him a bit lower around #10 mid season, but now would say around #5. Maybe I'm being too low on him though.

 

[Joe Bryant]

This thread is aging well!

Agreed. Things changing is part of sports and one of the things that makes it interesting.

What exact number would you put him at now?

"Exact number"?

I was going to say top 10, but in that case, I think I'd say exactly 9.15.

And as always, reserving the right to move these at will.

 

[rockaction]

Huff was awful before the bye but seemed to be playing better after the bye before he got hurt. He may be useful next year.

Heard on a Jets podcast for the NY Post that Fangio just had no use for the guy and didn't want him on the field. Huff is undersized and Fangio doesn't want to blitz which is how you'd generally employ Huff. So the GM and coach weren't on the same page in that instance. Roseman gave him a guy he didn't want.

 

[Deamon]

This thread is aging well!

Agreed. Things changing is part of sports and one of the things that makes it interesting.

What exact number would you put him at now?

"Exact number"?

I was going to say top 10, but in that case, I think I'd say exactly 9.15.

And as always, reserving the right to move these at will.

ah, unfortunate you didnt want to answer the question without sarcasm

Why do you say 9.15?

 

[fred_1_15301]

For me he was already top-3 even before the SB win.

Ya I had him a bit lower around #10 mid season, but now would say around #5. Maybe I'm being too low on him though.

Who are the 4 coaches you have above him?

 

[Deamon]

For me he was already top-3 even before the SB win.

Ya I had him a bit lower around #10 mid season, but now would say around #5. Maybe I'm being too low on him though.

Who are the 4 coaches you have above him?

Great question. Hmm... maybe...

Reid
Harbaugh
Shannahan
Campbell
McVay

 

[Joe Bryant]

This thread is aging well!

Agreed. Things changing is part of sports and one of the things that makes it interesting.

What exact number would you put him at now?

"Exact number"?

I was going to say top 10, but in that case, I think I'd say exactly 9.15.

And as always, reserving the right to move these at will.

ah, unfortunate you didnt want to answer the question without sarcasm

Why do you say 9.15?

Sorry if you think that's unfortunate. No sarcasm. Just trying to be exact.

And could see him in the top 5. Some of my Eagles friends have him #1. Clearly the team did a great job this year.

 

[crushedspirit]

I put more stock into coaches that can win playoff games.

Just for context,
Reid
McVay
Sirrianni
Shanny
McDermott

 

[Terpman22]

I put more stock into coaches that can win playoff games.

Just for context,
Reid
McVay
Sirrianni
Shanny
McDermott

Yeah, I'm very curious to the folks that have someone like Dan Campbell inserted above any single one of these guys...and I'd be willing to bet the majority of folks that "want to punch Sirianni in the face" always have Dan Campbell ranked above him, despite, ya know, accomplishing really nothing so far as playoff success...

 

[unckeyherb]

I put more stock into coaches that can win playoff games.

Just for context,
Reid
McVay

Shanny
McDermott

Nick has beaten all these guys. McVay in the NFC Divisional round, Shanny in the NFCC, Reid in the Super Bowl.

 

[Snotbubbles]

For me he was already top-3 even before the SB win.

Ya I had him a bit lower around #10 mid season, but now would say around #5. Maybe I'm being too low on him though.

Who are the 4 coaches you have above him?

Great question. Hmm... maybe...

Reid
Harbaugh
Shannahan
Campbell
McVay

No to Shanahan and Campbell.

Half of Shanahan's HC career he's had a losing record.

The gameplan Campbell had against the Commanders, he dropped down a couple notches for me. Now we get to see if his team was more a product of his ACs or if it's him. The Lions offense started taking off under Johnson, we'll see if his replacement can keep it running like a well oiled machine or if it drops a bit.

Harbaugh, is that Jim or John? John I can buy, he's a SB winner and his teams are always pretty good. Jim, need to see more.

I'd put Sean Payton in that group over Shanahan and Campbell. Mike Tomlin is another one, he should have won COY after getting that Steelers team to the playoffs this year. They were maybe the least talented team in the playoffs.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I put more stock into coaches that can win playoff games.

Just for context,
Reid
McVay

Shanny
McDermott

Nick has beaten all these guys. McVay in the NFC Divisional round, Shanny in the NFCC, Reid in the Super Bowl.

Nick Sirianni’s record vs:

• Mike Tomlin
• Andy Reid
• Sean McDermott
• Sean Payton
• Kyle Shanahan
• Matt LeFleur
• Kevin O’Connell
• Dan Campbell

15-3.

 

[eighsse2]

I don't remember the exact numbers, but early on in this poll, the votes were very heavily weighted toward the bottom half. I feel like my vote (5-8) was the only vote in the top 12 after a pretty decent sampling of votes had come in. Interesting to see the distribution now. I wonder how much of that was just due to the early sample being a poor representation of the remaining votes that were yet to come in (maybe they counted the votes in Dallas, TX, first ), and how much of that is votes that were actually changed.

 

[crushedspirit]

You beat someone once doesn't necessarily make you a better coach. There's much more to it than that and I really shouldn't have to point that out. I'm a Sirianni fan, but wouldn't put him at the top of the other two yet, but if this playoff success can keep going then the sky is the limit.

Reid has accumulated accomplishments with two separate franchises and a host of different QBs and stands in a tier of his own, and McVay went two 2 SB with 2 separate QBs while beating Tom Brady on the road to get there. Phi did beat LA in this run to the SB, but that was the toughest test they were given at home.

 

[Ray_T]

I think Sirianni as a coach is at least decent.
I wouldnt put him in elite company though(not yet anyways).

but the real issue is:
it is hard to figure out how much of the success is because of him and how much is because of the GM. but he did have a role successfully developing Hurts and I think that at leasts puts him in the upper half of all coaches.

Hes consistently had good defenses. I thought the D was gonna take a step back as they lost some people in the offseason, but that defense was as good or better than before.

clearly hes doing something right.

but like I said, how much of this is the coach and how much is the GM?

and how much credit do you give to the assistants? even if you do give credit to the assistants, you still need to give Sirianni credit for hiring good people to work with him

Id say hes top 10 among active coaches. Not sure I'd elevate him to top 5 just yet but he is a candidate for top 5 in the future