Irv Farve (1 Viewer)

[BassNBrew]

When my father died, I was in a brain fog for several days worrying about my mother, the funeral, coordinating travel, etc.I can't imagine trying to direct an offense with 300 pound linemen trying to hammer you, all the while thinking how your mother is going to live without him.Doesn't sound safe to me

It's really no different then driving cross country on no sleep to make a funeral. You sack up and do what you have to do to get through. Most of us here have been in similiar positions or will be in the future. Making the decision regarding what to do will be the toughest part. Whatever he does, he'll always have some regrets. It's a lose/lose situation being thrown on top of a bad situation.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Any specualation regarding Favre playing tomorrow night is pointless...I do not think that Brett even knows what he will do tomorrow...

 

[QuizGuy66]

Condolences to the Favre family :(FWIW, ESPN said that a decision will be made tomorrow morning whether Favre will play or not.-QG

 

[PoppaPump]

I wouldn't blame Brett if he didn't play tomorrow. I am a pretty die hard Bears fan and Brett has pissed me off many times... but I grew to respect the guy. He just leaves it all out there.... You have to respect greatness. I don't know how he will be able to concentrate on the game but I do fully expect him to play tomorrow. Prayers to the Favre family.Matrix you really are a fool. It is no wonder you are constantly getting ripped on this board by everyone.

 

[matrix9280]

 

[KevT]

Espn is reporting he'll play.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...artnersite=espn

Playing in the game will probably do him some good. It might help relieve some of the pain for a few hours.

 

[Kleck]

You're done.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

You're done.

matrix9280 Posted: Dec 22 2003, 02:26 AM FootballguyGroup: BannedPosts: 4009Member No.: 5413Joined: 11-July 03

Not the right thread to sigh with relief.Thank you Mr Shick!Condolenses & all the best to the Favre family.

 

[Chaz]

Horrible news.

 

[CaptainHucklebuck]

Jesus... My dad and Mr. Favre are about the same age, and though I certainly haven't achieved the sort of success Favre's son has, I would like to hope that my father will be around to see the end of at least my career. I hope Favre goes out there and breaks some records tomorrow, if he decides to play. If not, he's been breaking records every week he starts - he's done plenty on the field already. Good luck, Brett.

 

[ravnzfan]

Again...condolences to the Favre familyand a HUGE A-MEN to Shick!

 

[PACKER 7]

It's very sad to here this news. Coming from a huge fan, I send my prayers out to the Favre family. Whether or not he plays tonight is irrelavent. Football is just a game.

 

[IGKYA!!!]

Why don't you just delete yourself.

 

[Mighty Quint]

Can you take your head out of your ### for a second?? There is a whole lot more to life than FF and FBG. Confirms my thought that most of the people who frequent these forums are losers. And matrix, you've got to be the biggest loser.Under no circumstances should Brett play. For god sakes it's a football game. Warmth and condolensces goes out to the Farve family.

let me ask you a question and i want you to be honest. are there any packers on your fantasy team?

Yes, In in the championship game and have Farve and Longwell. Go get a life loser.

 

[Jason Wood]

All that needs to be said has been said, but for a guy who's just about the greatest player of my adult life (consistently), and someone that seems genuinely likeable to boot, this is a rare instance where I truly empathize with a stranger's loss. GB the Favre family, a really tough thing to deal with at any time, much less the holidays.All The Best

 

[Greg R]

Just wanted to send my condolensces to Brett and his family. I hope he does whatever he needs to do to take care of himself and his family during this trying time.

 

[firecrackerfreakshow]

All that needs to be said has been said, but for a guy who's just about the greatest player of my adult life (consistently), and someone that seems genuinely likeable to boot, this is a rare instance where I truly empathize with a stranger's loss. GB the Favre family, a really tough thing to deal with at any time, much less the holidays.All The Best

 

[Bri]

Prayers for Brett's and his family. It must be tough to lose a father.As for whether Brett plays. Their could be logic either way. He needs time to grieve so he won't. It would take his mind off things. If he does well, it'll bring smiles to the faces of his relatives which they could probably sorely use right now. It's a tossup.My guess would be that he plays. He's too emotional a person. His family will see it as an "outlet" and tell him it's best to "blow off some steam." Every time we post on this board, our opinion of whether someone will play is a guess and a common ritual. Kinda feel sad guessing about Brett this time.I wonder if the Pack fans will have posters and such wishing Brett well. Wanting to show they care. While that'd be a nice gesture, I'm somewhat certain it'd be a reminder at a time Brett would probably need to clear his mind. I wonder if it would have the positive effect they intended or an inadvertent negative effect. Again, prayers for the Favre familyI love watching his son play, may he rest in peace.

 

[Greg R]

From ESPN:

Irvin Favre coached his son at Hancock North Central High School. He said he knew Brett had a good arm, but he also had an abundance of good running backs. So, for the three years Brett was the starting quarterback, Hancock North ran the wishbone.One of the school's signature plays at the time was a pitchout with Brett Favre as the lead blocker."If I had wanted to showcase my son, I could have let him throw," Irvin Favre said later. "But I thought I did a good job in that what I was doing was in the best interest of the team."

 

[Maulers]

My prayers are with the entire Favre family. Sorrow at this particular time of year is incredibly tough.

An older man up on a hill

holding flowers but he can't hold back the tears.

oh he has come to say goodbye.

he thinks about the life she lived,

thinks about how hard it's been to live without her

sixty years right by his side

and he cries, oh Lord i loved her till the end

and he heard a gentle voice say you'll see her once again

I have been there

I know what sorrow's all about

yes i have been there and i'm standing with you now

i have been there, and i came to build a bridge

oh so this road could lead her home, the road could lead her home

oh i have been there, You know I overcame the cross, yes I have been there

so her life would not be lost

oh I have been there, and I came to build

a bridge so this road could lead you home

the road could lead you home

Oh I have been there

Yes I have been there

That particular lyric always helps me in times of personal family loss.

 

[Bri]

You're done.

He wouldn't be the first person to act immaturely toward death. Immaturely is the word most folks use but in a way he's lucky. IMO he would never have acted as such had he lost a loved one and understood the pain of this loss. When I was appalled at someone's reaction, my sweet precious grandma(now deceased) once said "Everyone grieves in their own way." Meaning it's not a time to judge. Like countless things she said, I think it was wise and very true.We've all heard stories about folks doing uncharacteristically awful things blowing off steam after a tragic loss like this. If I were you Shick, I'd have banned him so he couldn't ruin this caring thoughtful thread. In a week or so, when this is "old news"(ya know how the boards work, no disrespect intended) think about it again.It really isn't a time to judge, words couldn't have been more true.An example:One very well known FF website owner, well known for his kindness and going the extra mile for his visitors, lived near the oklahoma bombings and was saddenned by it. After 9/11 he made a very (absolutely extreme opposite) uncharacteristic comment to folks that thought the Jets team name was a painful reminder of the tragedy of 9/11. I still think he's a great guy and...I don't know the original poster. Some of his wise comments in other threads were bothersome, occasionally he did have some comments that were good to hear or informative. I'd swear he's been here a long time, has been very active and thus loves this board. As someone else that loves this board and can understand the wonderful way you post a little and take a break from the grinds of the day. A much needed break somedays...this post is going on too long. If this person doesn't understand the gravity of a tragic loss, you'll be inadvertently teaching him as he loses these board priviledges. I know you're a teacher I just don't think this is something taught but more of a lesson learned by one's self. May I ask you to reconsider after a week or so? Not to allow him to post or disallow, just to think about it again. If so, thanks for your time and thoughts. You should know by now, there is no disrespect intended whatsoever from me.

 

[Legion of Doom]

Matrix was banned for that? He's as annoying as hell and needed a time out for sure,but a full banning is laughable considering some of the stuff that goes on here daily! LOL @ nobody remembering the now infamous Korey Stringer thread...except grid!

 

[trout]

crazy thing happened when I was watching the sunday night game. I flipped to the local news during a timeout in the game. Along the bottom there is a news scroller thing. All I originally saw was "....Brett Favre died in what apparently was a 1 car accident due to heart attack or stroke....". I pretty much jumped out of bed and called my wife into the room. (no...we don't sleep in separate beds...she was still up doing something). "Holy #### Mrs Trout, Brett Favre just f-ing died!". She comes running into the room. I had honestly thought Favre died. I wasn't until a couple minutes later that the news scrolled along the bottom again, but this time I saw the beginning of the message...."Irvin Favre, father of Packer's QB Brett Favre died in what apparently was a 1 car accident due to heart attack or stroke....".whew. For a couple minutes there, I really thought Brett had died. My heart was racing. Still very sad news for the Favre family.I heard on the local radio stations this morning that Favre adressed the team last night. And with his family's encouragement he has decided to play in tonight's game.

 

[Jason Wood]

Matrix was banned for that? He's as annoying as hell and needed a time out for sure,but a full banning is laughable considering some of the stuff that goes on here daily! LOL @ nobody remembering the now infamous Korey Stringer thread...except grid!

I haven't spoken to Shick! on the matter, but my guess is he wasn't banned necessarily for his insensivity as he was for his insubordinate reaction to warnings about the inappropriateness of CONTINUED insensitivity.Cheers

 

[Vic Vega]

I met Irv Favre a few years ago. He was doing a radio show for a Monday Nighter with Bum Phillips. Those two together were hilarious. He really seemed like a great guy, by the way he went on about Brett he was definitely very close to him. Some people aren't close with their parents, not the case here. I'm sure this is devistating to the family.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Its true that none us really knew Irv Favre and none of us really know Brett, but the fact is that for people who live in Wisconsin, both of these men are very recognizable figures. Irv could often be seen around Green Bay and was a frequent guest on WTMJ, the Packers radio station. Every week Irv appeared on the postgame radio show on WTMJ for about an hour. We always listen to the show while driving home from Lambeau after games (I live in Chicago now). Irv was a very sharp, funny guy and was always a moderating voice against the rabid Packer fans calling in to the show. He was also obviously a very proud dad. Brett Favre has always been very visible locally in Green Bay and Milwaukee, moreso in his wild years in the mid-90's. I shared an office building for several years with Favre's former agent, Joe Sweeny, in Milwaukee and saw him, Deanna and their older daughter there on several occaisions. I think Brett Favre is more than just a football superstar for many Wisconsinites that have "known" him and Irv in this limited way over the past 13 years and I feel some pain now thinking about what he is going through.

 

[XNOUGHT]

I am not surprised Farve is playing. Many players find solace and comfort in the simplicity of football.There are no politics, religion, families to feed, or any of that in football.When you step on the football field, it's you vs. them, and it is as simple as that. Instead of thinking about life and death, you think about whether the defense will drop into a 3 gap zone or play man. Football will give Farve not only a chance to escape from the hell he is living right now, but it will give Farve a chance to play for his other family.The city of Green Bay and all the fans are his other family. Farve has been with them forever, and the fans have been with him. Rant over. Farve is tough, and the thought of losing my dad breaks me up. I wouldn't be able to go to work for a while if that happened to me. But Brett has something to play for. Brett can win, and bring happiness to all the fans of Green Bay. And hopefully, brining happiness to others will bring happiness to him.

 

[Elway Lives]

So regarding whether he will/won't/should/shouldn't play tonite...Obviously its not mine or anyone else on this board's call, but does anyone else think it would be the perfect and fitting end to his consecutive games streak to not play b/c he was with his family when his father died? Anytime anyone remembers this streak, they would almost have to remember why it ended, and Irv's memory would almost certainly live on indefinately. Seems a very fitting tribute.

 

[FFBEAST]

see he ain't dead. everybody crying for nothing.

matrix, with comments like this, you will NEVER win a fantasy football league...ever!you just ####ing jinxed yourself with that post. i hope the ghost of irv favre comes back to haunt you year in and year out until you one day, in your old age, decide to call it quits for good. ff is all about kharma, and you just flushed any good luck you may have had down the drain.my condolences to the favre family and eveyone on this message board should raise a glass to irv tonight and during the holidays. matrix, i hope your fantasy teams have losing records for the rest of your life and you NEVER win a bowl.i just cursed you forever. hows that feel, jagoff?????

 

[Spike]

WOW. The insensitivity on this post is unbelievable.

Matrix - if a family member of yours got hurt on a Sunday would you help him/her out or would you adjust your lineup first?

There's much more to life than FF. I see nothing but concern for yourself in this post. Shame.

well seeing as they're a member of my family yeah i would help them out. as long as my lineup is adjusted first.

I've now read through the entire thread and if you cannot see that Matrix deserved to be banned, this post here is emblematic of why he should have been.I'm just sorry that he decided he wanted to be the focal point of this, as opposed to the Favre family.

If Matrix had any sensitivity, he should be ashamed...

...but I'm certain he isn't. (And worse, that he cannot see why he should.)

 

[trout]

I’m not a Packer fan. Nor am I a Farve owner. But I have always respected Farve. I love to watch him play when he has one of those great games. He just exudes bloody lip toughness. But if he plays after the death of his father, and wins, it will propel him into the stuff legends are made of.I hope he plays and throws four touchdowns to win it and then thanks his father and everybody cries. America needs heroes.

Man...I sure hope that's what happens. I couldn't think of a better hero/legend maker. That would truly be special!But......What if just the opposite happens? What if Favre goes out there and really plays bad? What if he throws 4 ints instead of 4 tds and the Packer lose and don't make the playoffs? What a tough spot to be in for Brett and his family! I'll respect whatever he chooses to do...play or not. Best of luck to the Favres

 

[Eric Stratton]

Here is a good article from ESPN about the relationship between Brett and his father. Irv was his football coach in high school.

Brett and Irv

 

[Bri]

So regarding whether he will/won't/should/shouldn't play tonite...Obviously its not mine or anyone else on this board's call, but does anyone else think it would be the perfect and fitting end to his consecutive games streak to not play b/c he was with his family when his father died? Anytime anyone remembers this streak, they would almost have to remember why it ended, and Irv's memory would almost certainly live on indefinately. Seems a very fitting tribute.

Interesting original thought....hmmmI think though this could be construed as a negative. Ya know like, ya don't want folks to associate the memory of Irv in a negative light. Plus(never knew him but since he was a coach and all, 100% assumption) if he had his wish, he'd probably not want to be rememberred for causing his dear son's streak to end.Good intentions, just think the result wouldn't be as desired

 

[Thomas A]

I'm ashamed to say that when I heard the news, my first reaction was to wonder what effect it would have on our championship game. Human nature, I guess, but at least I had the good sense not to post inane and insensitive comments.Only Bret will know what is the best way for him to handle his grief. Some people need to be alone. Some people have to keep busy. It's his call, obviously. He's a warrior and a professional, so my guess is that he'll play.My condolences to the Farve family. 58 is way too young and we all need to count our blessings.

 

[Bri]

I’m not a Packer fan. Nor am I a Farve owner. But I have always respected Farve. I love to watch him play when he has one of those great games. He just exudes bloody lip toughness. But if he plays after the death of his father, and wins, it will propel him into the stuff legends are made of.I hope he plays and throws four touchdowns to win it and then thanks his father and everybody cries. America needs heroes.

Man...I sure hope that's what happens. I couldn't think of a better hero/legend maker. That would truly be special!But......What if just the opposite happens? What if Favre goes out there and really plays bad? What if he throws 4 ints instead of 4 tds and the Packer lose and don't make the playoffs? What a tough spot to be in for Brett and his family! I'll respect whatever he chooses to do...play or not. Best of luck to the Favres

But this is Brett Favre. Brett whom regularly makes throws he shouldn't that are either a terrific dart of a throw or an INT. I think no matter what he won't fear throwing INTs nor will the Pack fear him doing so. If he threw four INTs, it'd just be because Brett was Brett and got a little wild IMO.I figured, before this news, that the Pack would run alot on this Raiders D. There's been some weeks where it seems like Ahman is the whole Packer offense this year. I was wonderring if this wouldn't have been one of those weeks anyway. I like both Najeh and Fish, even if Ahman gets tired they might not have to pass much.

 

[3nOut]

My mother died 4 yrs ago and it was hard for me to keep my mind on work. It is very hard to lose a parent or child. My job allowed me 3 days off. I'm glad they did. I know that football is a game but it is also a million dollar business. I know that fantasy football is a game but it is also a source of income. When stories like this are posted in the Shark Pool I thought it had relevence to fantasy football. If we comment on this story regarding fantasy football I don't think we should be ridiculed.

Maybe it has FF relevance, but it has no reverance. This was a post about an event related to football, but not FF. If matrix wanted to start another thread about the FF implications, thats fine, as long as it was done with tact. THIS was not the thread for his comments.

 

[DeCleater]

I had an uncle die at 53, I know the pain a family goes through. He wasn't there for his daughters wedding and you can feel the void. The day Brett goes into the Hall of Fame will be another tough day because his dad won't be there to celebrate it with him. But he will be remembered. If he plays I hope the fans in Oakland show some class, they haven't been know for it in the past. I think most will but I can see a few die-hards yelling some very rude things to upset him. That's just human nature and would probably happen anywhere, there are people like Matrix at every game.

 

[Muntucky Maverick]

Matrix was banned for that? He's as annoying as hell and needed a time out for sure,but a full banning is laughable considering some of the stuff that goes on here daily! LOL @ nobody remembering the now infamous Korey Stringer thread...except grid!

I haven't spoken to Shick! on the matter, but my guess is he wasn't banned necessarily for his insensivity as he was for his insubordinate reaction to warnings about the inappropriateness of CONTINUED insensitivity.Cheers

You can be banned for being insensitive?

 

[masterwizard]

So it would appear.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

So it would appear.

Apparently not the IP ban. Hopefully, that'll be next.

 

[Muntucky Maverick]

I understand that FBG's own this message board and they have the right to ban people but banning someone for not being sensitive is ridiculous. Am I going to be banned for not being sensitive to Matrix being banned? This whole board is full of insensitive people. I am sorry that Brett Farve's dad died but I didn't know him. He didn't know me. And, I doubt that Brett or his family read this message board. It's nice that everyone sends his prayers and thoughts to the Farve family but I doubt they will receive it from this message board. Just execising my right to free speech. It may not be popular but we have the right to be insensitive if we want. As you have the right to ban me. This is what you agree to when you sign up for this board:

"Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB." I missed the part about being insensitive.

 

[Legion of Doom]

Shooter your being harsh on the newbie! LOL It would be cool if Farve had a career night!

 

[Shooter McGavin]

I understand that FBG's own this message board and they have the right to ban people but banning someone for not being sensitive is ridiculous. Am I going to be banned for not being sensitive to Matrix being banned? This whole board is full of insensitive people. I am sorry that Brett Farve's dad died but I didn't know him. He didn't know me. And, I doubt that Brett or his family read this message board. It's nice that everyone sends his prayers and thoughts to the Farve family but I doubt they will receive it from this message board. Just execising my right to free speech. It may not be popular but we have the right to be insensitive if we want. As you have the right to ban me. This is what you agree to when you sign up for this board:

"Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB." I missed the part about being insensitive.

matrix's pattern of ### clownish behavior over the season has led to his banning. This thread was just the final straw.

 

[Muntucky Maverick]

I understand that FBG's own this message board and they have the right to ban people but banning someone for not being sensitive is ridiculous. Am I going to be banned for not being sensitive to Matrix being banned? This whole board is full of insensitive people. I am sorry that Brett Farve's dad died but I didn't know him. He didn't know me. And, I doubt that Brett or his family read this message board. It's nice that everyone sends his prayers and thoughts to the Farve family but I doubt they will receive it from this message board. Just execising my right to free speech. It may not be popular but we have the right to be insensitive if we want. As you have the right to ban me. This is what you agree to when you sign up for this board:

"Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB." I missed the part about being insensitive.

matrix's pattern of ### clownish behavior over the season has led to his banning. This thread was just the final straw.

My fault, I didn't realize he was such a bad guy.

 

[Legion of Doom]

Muntucky Maverick banning him would be extreme,if it was for insensitivity IMO,but it sounds like an issue of repeated instances of them advising him to cool it in the past and he did not. Like Shooter said it was the final straw!

 

[tdk_316]

I understand that FBG's own this message board and they have the right to ban people but banning someone for not being sensitive is ridiculous. Am I going to be banned for not being sensitive to Matrix being banned? This whole board is full of insensitive people. I am sorry that Brett Farve's dad died but I didn't know him. He didn't know me. And, I doubt that Brett or his family read this message board. It's nice that everyone sends his prayers and thoughts to the Farve family but I doubt they will receive it from this message board. Just execising my right to free speech. It may not be popular but we have the right to be insensitive if we want. As you have the right to ban me. This is what you agree to when you sign up for this board:

"Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB." I missed the part about being insensitive.

Where were the bannings for all the "use the search function" messages earlier in the year? That could have been taked as "insensitive" especially considering the Admin's were not the ones posting the messages.

 

[smlevin]

Muntucky Maverick banning him would be extreme,if it was for insensitivity IMO,but it sounds like an issue of repeated instances of them advising him to cool it in the past and he did not. Like Shooter said it was the final straw!

Without speculation, it is apparent to me that if you continually ignore the advice of the moderators to "cool it down a bit" you will be banned. :speculation on: I will virtually guarantee that Matrix received more than sufficient warnings resulting from his behavior in this, and other, threads before the ban.Now, can we re-focus on healing and forget this innane disruption? Favre was a "good ole farm boy" who was very close to his father. His father died suddenly, tragically, and while younger than my Dad is today. I can't imagine what he is going through, but I know that if my father were suddenly taken from me tomorrow, I would be heading straight home. I am betting that is exactly what he did - if his family is pushing him to play, I believe Favre will take to healing through football as a tribute to his father.With the resources Brett has, and with the situation his football team is in, I would actually be surprised if he did NOT play. I think he will fly into town an hour before the game, take the field, talk to noone outside his locker room, and will leave immediately after the game without granting any interviews. If the game is decided one way or the other, he will prepare to leave early, but will be on the field until the game is over. And, don't be surprised to see Favre lead blocking on a few plays, and looking to take out a little grief through aggression. This game will be all about Brett and his father, but, IMO, Brett will probably play.My heart goes out to Brett and his family.

 

[DBIsports]

I am glad I read this entire post,I almost made a "double bagging" comment that would have surely got me banned along with Matrix.....I didn't realize there was so many ultra-sensitive people on this board,I feel like we are in Church or something.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

It sounds like he's going to play, which is just amazing to me. My wife lost her dad about a month and a half ago -- he had cancer, and was only 54 -- so I can truly empathize with the Favre family. Right now, there's probably kind of a shocked, emotionally numb feeling that he's experiencing, and I can't imagine being able to function at any kind of level after such a shock. I'm not a Favre fan, but my heart goes out to him. Losing someone you're close to is the worst thing you can experience. :(

 

[Gamblor]

I’m not a Packer fan. Nor am I a Farve owner. But I have always respected Farve. I love to watch him play when he has one of those great games. He just exudes bloody lip toughness. But if he plays after the death of his father, and wins, it will propel him into the stuff legends are made of.I hope he plays and throws four touchdowns to win it and then thanks his father and everybody cries. America needs heroes.

I too greatly respect Favre, and I feel for him and his family... I have just recently lost both of my grandfathers, and Im sure many here have lost people close to them...However, having said that I feel that to call Favre a hero if he plays as you have indicated is a bit of a stretch... I would call Brett a role-model, even a champion to America, but would prefer to keep my definition of hero to the following:

A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life: soldiers and nurses who were heroes in an unpopular war.