Jets Assistant Coach Intentionally Trips Dolphins Player (1 Viewer)

[oukurt]

Well, I think the guy was on HIS part of the field, and the player was off the field of play and was illegaly making little to no attempt to return to the field of play but instead wanted to run down the outside edge of the huge white stripe. IMO, the coach has as much right to protect himself and his territory as a defensive back does vs a wide reciever. Problem is, if he is given the same treatment as a DB, he'll be penalized for a guy brushing off of him and flopping.

really?

 

[road warrior]

Giving credit to a Jets fan who called up WFAN to note this...but the guy to the right of the S&C coach tried to put his shoulder into the player as he approached, but Alosi got him first. Watching it again, the fact that the Jets had four people right up on that white line, legs braced wide, with Ryan right next to them looks very bad to me.

Heard the same comment. Just to fill it in a little more, stated that if the Jet's brass (Owner, GM and Coach) don't publically handle this soon (maybe too late) the Players Association will be head hunting.

 

[Man In The Box]

Jack Tripper set to speak to the media at 2:30.

 

[Dizzy]

People forgave Vick.. just sayin'

Yeah they sure did, just look at all the love he gets on this board. It's not like Vick did 2 years in prison and went into financial ruin.

Yeah, he also didn't slip up in the heat of a game either. He systematically killed and tortured animals.

Donte Stallworth killed a man, got 30 days, and is back playing. It's not a matter of "forgiving" him. The incident happened less than a day ago, so people will be divided on it for awhile. Once cooler heads have prevailed, he will

be forgiven. Doesn't mean he shouldn't get fined/suspended/fired though. Actions have consequences.

Huge difference between what Donte Stallworth did and what Vick did.DS killed a pedestrian while driving drunk in Miami - stupid thing to get into a car while drunk, but his intention was not to go out and kill someone that night.

Vick on the other hand tortured animals to death for fun and entertainment and not just for one night for years.

It is the intent that matters not just the actions themselves. The judge in the DS case and the prosecuting attorney clearly saw this.

Not sure you guys are sharing all the FACTS of the case when throwing down the "Stallworth got 30 days for killing a guy" BS.

 

[wadegarrett]

Has it been mentioned yet that it really didn't look like the Dolphin was even really hurt? I think he was playing the whole thing up. Shame on him.

Thought maybe he flopped to draw attention to the fact the guy tried to trip him. Might have gone unnoticed had he stayed on his feet and kept running.

 

[Saint]

FWIW, if the Miami player suffered a significant injury (such as ACL tear or something), would you all feel different on the punishment? It shouldn't. It should be the same penalty. Fact is, a COACH, a person who is not involved in the play, who is older than 80-90% of the players, should know better. This is a terrible lapse of judgment and reflects not just on the NYJ, but also the NFL league.

I agree with the posters that the judgment should be severe and should be handled quickly. Is it realistic to fire the coach? I would say "yes." If you were at your company and did something that could have physically harmed another person, I guarantee you would probably be terminated. We'll see what happens, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they guy is let go. Fact is, he's a strength and conditioning coach. There's a heck of a lot more of them available than professional NFL players.

 

[RudeDog]

This will easily win the "C'mon man" segment on ESPN next week

 

[Kit Fisto]

Has it been mentioned yet that it really didn't look like the Dolphin was even really hurt? I think he was playing the whole thing up. Shame on him.

Thought maybe he flopped to draw attention to the fact the guy tried to trip him. Might have gone unnoticed had he stayed on his feet and kept running.

I can buy that.But I think he torqued up his side, trying to get out of the way. Oblique, hip, whatever.Regardless, it's pretty dangerous business sticking your knee out like that. Could have demolished Carroll's knee if he got him right. Or his own for that matter.

 

[Man In The Box]

Has it been mentioned yet that it really didn't look like the Dolphin was even really hurt? I think he was playing the whole thing up. Shame on him.

It probably hasn't been mentioned because:A) The extent of his injury, if there is one, is probably not known yet, andB) It's completely irrelevant.

 

[Kit Fisto]

FWIW, if the Miami player suffered a significant injury (such as ACL tear or something), would you all feel different on the punishment? It shouldn't. It should be the same penalty. Fact is, a COACH, a person who is not involved in the play, who is older than 80-90% of the players, should know better. This is a terrible lapse of judgment and reflects not just on the NYJ, but also the NFL league.I agree with the posters that the judgment should be severe and should be handled quickly. Is it realistic to fire the coach? I would say "yes." If you were at your company and did something that could have physically harmed another person, I guarantee you would probably be terminated. We'll see what happens, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they guy is let go. Fact is, he's a strength and conditioning coach. There's a heck of a lot more of them available than professional NFL players.

From watching the video again, it does seem premeditated. Who ever called out the fact that the second coach also tries to bump Carroll is dead on."Let's lineup here on the thirty, and when Kyle Wilson and Emmanuel Cook run their gunner out of bounds, we'll "accidentally" get in his way. Sound good?"Edited to add: Cook (#27) was also out of bounds.

 

[Andrew Garda]

This will easily win the "C'mon man" segment on ESPN next week

It'll win my 'Wile E Coyote - Super Genius' Award tonight. It's pretty darn stupid.

 

[todisco1]

Jack Tripper set to speak to the media at 2:30.

Will he be holding his press conference from the Reagle Beagle?

 

[Gatorman]

FWIW, if the Miami player suffered a significant injury (such as ACL tear or something), would you all feel different on the punishment? It shouldn't. It should be the same penalty. Fact is, a COACH, a person who is not involved in the play, who is older than 80-90% of the players, should know better. This is a terrible lapse of judgment and reflects not just on the NYJ, but also the NFL league.I agree with the posters that the judgment should be severe and should be handled quickly. Is it realistic to fire the coach? I would say "yes." If you were at your company and did something that could have physically harmed another person, I guarantee you would probably be terminated. We'll see what happens, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they guy is let go. Fact is, he's a strength and conditioning coach. There's a heck of a lot more of them available than professional NFL players.

From watching the video again, it does seem premeditated. Who ever called out the fact that the second coach also tries to bump Carroll is dead on."Let's lineup here on the thirty, and when Kyle Wilson and Emmanuel Cook run their gunner out of bounds, we'll "accidentally" get in his way. Sound good?"Edited to add: Cook (#27) was also out of bounds.

The truth is, but the way those players were arrayed, it was almost a set up to get that player wedged between the green wall of coaches and the guys on the field. I wonder if there is video of them "setting up" in their line like that befroe the play.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Jack Tripper set to speak to the media at 2:30.

Will he be holding his press conference from the Reagle Beagle?

So in front of hordes of media the Jets send this dude out by himself?Where is Tannenbaum? Woody?He's sent out there alone to once again apologize.It's almost as if Omar Minaya is running the Jets.

 

[Andrew Garda]

The truth is, but the way those players were arrayed, it was almost a set up to get that player wedged between the green wall of coaches and the guys on the field. I wonder if there is video of them "setting up" in their line like that befroe the play.

It's Wilson and Cook's job to run him out of bounds. I think we're getting a little carried away here. Then again, this whole thing has been crazy.

 

[fatness]

Giving credit to a Jets fan who called up WFAN to note this...but the guy to the right of the S&C coach tried to put his shoulder into the player as he approached, but Alosi got him first. Watching it again, the fact that the Jets had four people right up on that white line, legs braced wide, with Ryan right next to them looks very bad to me.

Mentioned here, along with a picture of the row of guys.

 

[pantagrapher]

The truth is, but the way those players were arrayed, it was almost a set up to get that player wedged between the green wall of coaches and the guys on the field. I wonder if there is video of them "setting up" in their line like that befroe the play.

It's Wilson and Cook's job to run him out of bounds. I think we're getting a little carried away here. Then again, this whole thing has been crazy.

Well yeah. But it seems like knowing that, several Jets personnel set up a wall to prevent the gunner from getting back in bounds easily. Not sure if that's illegal though.

 

[fatness]

This is a terrible lapse of judgment and reflects not just on the NYJ, but also the NFL league.

"Lapse in judgment" seems to minimize this quite a bit. It was a deliberate decision and action.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

For those of you on the side of "he didn't do anything" I brought this over from the FFA:

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/12/12/stat...-nolan-carroll/

Statement from Sal Alosi Regarding Tripping Nolan Carroll

By Lisa Zimmerman on Dec 12, 2010, 10:00 pm

East Rutherford–Sal Alosi, the Jets Head Strength and Conditioning Coach was caught on camera tripping Miami Dolphins cornerback Nolan Carroll during the game. The team has released the following statement from Alosi:

“I made a mistake that showed a total lapse in judgment. My conduct was inexcusable and unsportsmanlike and does not reflect what this organization stands for. I spoke to Coach Sparano and Nolan Carroll to apologize before they took off. I have also apologized to Woody (Johnson), Mike (Tannenbaum) and Rex (Ryan). I accept responsibility for my actions as well as any punishment that follows.”

Expect to see punishment determined sooner rather than later. It is not clear yet if the NFL will also get involved.

At least he did the right thing instead of running from it. Now he gets fired.

He should still be fired. I have no problem with him getting a second chance elsewhere, but sometimes a person's actions are so inexcusable they should be fired immediately.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Giving credit to a Jets fan who called up WFAN to note this...but the guy to the right of the S&C coach tried to put his shoulder into the player as he approached, but Alosi got him first. Watching it again, the fact that the Jets had four people right up on that white line, legs braced wide, with Ryan right next to them looks very bad to me.

Heard the same comment. Just to fill it in a little more, stated that if the Jet's brass (Owner, GM and Coach) don't publically handle this soon (maybe too late) the Players Association will be head hunting.

Maybe they all wanted to hit the player, but only 1 did. When he's fired hopefully the others will learn a lesson.

 

[davearm]

Well yeah. But it seems like knowing that, several Jets personnel set up a wall to prevent the gunner from getting back in bounds easily. Not sure if that's illegal though.

Check out where the coach who tripped the guy's left foot is -- right on the line that defines the end of the team bench area. Sure does seem like this line of bodies was totally intentional.It also makes it clear why these guys were aware of obstructing the Miami gunner.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

For those of you on the side of "he didn't do anything" I brought this over from the FFA:

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/12/12/stat...-nolan-carroll/

Statement from Sal Alosi Regarding Tripping Nolan Carroll

By Lisa Zimmerman on Dec 12, 2010, 10:00 pm

East Rutherford–Sal Alosi, the Jets Head Strength and Conditioning Coach was caught on camera tripping Miami Dolphins cornerback Nolan Carroll during the game. The team has released the following statement from Alosi:

“I made a mistake that showed a total lapse in judgment. My conduct was inexcusable and unsportsmanlike and does not reflect what this organization stands for. I spoke to Coach Sparano and Nolan Carroll to apologize before they took off. I have also apologized to Woody (Johnson), Mike (Tannenbaum) and Rex (Ryan). I accept responsibility for my actions as well as any punishment that follows.”

Expect to see punishment determined sooner rather than later. It is not clear yet if the NFL will also get involved.

At least he did the right thing instead of running from it. Now he gets fired.

We are a forgiving nation. The guy said he was sorry. Why are people so pumped up to see a person fired for a heat of the moment action??

Heat of the moment? How often have we seen a coach trip a player on the sidelines like that?

Woody hayes did.

 

[pantagrapher]

Well yeah. But it seems like knowing that, several Jets personnel set up a wall to prevent the gunner from getting back in bounds easily. Not sure if that's illegal though.

Check out where the coach who tripped the guy's left foot is -- right on the line that defines the end of the team bench area. Sure does seem like this line of bodies was totally intentional.It also makes it clear why these guys were aware of obstructing the Miami gunner.

I don't think anyone can look at the images and not think it's an intentional strategy. But assuming there had been no tripping, I'm wondering if setting up such a wall is legal.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Disgusting. Classless and pathetic. This joke of a coach should be fired immediately and fined severely. The Jets as a team should be fined and I hope they miss the playoffs. I actually like Rex Ryan but I am not a fan of his team and this only solidifies that dislike.

Amazing how many people here believe that he should be fired for a split second mistake, that is is admitting to and atoning for. I could see a fine, maybe even a small suspension, but a lot if people living in glass houses around here. I mean the guy prolly has a family and it's 2 weeks before christmas. You people are so hyperbolic about everything.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

This coach should immediately be switched to defense. As in, playing on the field for the Jets' defensive unit.That's probably the best stop anyone in the Jets organization has made over the past two weeks.

:rimshot:

 

[pantagrapher]

Disgusting. Classless and pathetic. This joke of a coach should be fired immediately and fined severely. The Jets as a team should be fined and I hope they miss the playoffs. I actually like Rex Ryan but I am not a fan of his team and this only solidifies that dislike.

Amazing how many people here believe that he should be fired for a split second mistake, that is is admitting to and atoning for. I could see a fine, maybe even a small suspension, but a lot if people living in glass houses around here. I mean the guy prolly has a family and it's 2 weeks before christmas. You people are so hyperbolic about everything.

I don't think it's just about punishing this individual; I think it's also about the league sending a message that this kind of thing won't be tolerated. That said, I don't advocate firing. Maybe ban him from the sidelines for the rest of the season and do some kind of outside penance. I dunno, teach some poor children how to do a proper isolation curl or something.

 

[davearm]

Disgusting. Classless and pathetic. This joke of a coach should be fired immediately and fined severely. The Jets as a team should be fined and I hope they miss the playoffs. I actually like Rex Ryan but I am not a fan of his team and this only solidifies that dislike.

Amazing how many people here believe that he should be fired for a split second mistake, that is is admitting to and atoning for. I could see a fine, maybe even a small suspension, but a lot if people living in glass houses around here. I mean the guy prolly has a family and it's 2 weeks before christmas. You people are so hyperbolic about everything.

I agree with your conclusion that the guy shouldn't be fired.I disagree with the notion that this was a split-second mistake. It sure appears the Jets intentionally arrayed a line of dudes expressly to obstruct the gunner if/when he was shoved out of bounds. This coach was fully aware of why he was standing where he was.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

We are a forgiving nation. The guy said he was sorry. Why are people so pumped up to see a person fired for a heat of the moment action??

There are some things that are forgivable "heat of the moment" actions - this isn't one of them. We don't know the guy personally, but I feel what he did spoke volumes about the kind of person he is.

That we now know he is such a horrible person from one split second/heat of the battle action. We saw him for 3 seconds on a video clip? I'm just glad all my life mistakes/lapses in judgement aren't being filmed and virally shared in HDTV. Most of you are too.He tripped/instead of jumping out of the way, a guy in full pads and a helmet. Now if he tripped a ref, I'd be more inclined to side with a more serious punishment, but this isn't nearly the big deal that it's being made out to be.Steven Jackson punched a fan. Ty Cobb used to jump in the stands and beat up/carve up hecklers with a knife.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

For those of you on the side of "he didn't do anything" I brought this over from the FFA:

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/12/12/stat...-nolan-carroll/

Statement from Sal Alosi Regarding Tripping Nolan Carroll

By Lisa Zimmerman on Dec 12, 2010, 10:00 pm

East Rutherford–Sal Alosi, the Jets Head Strength and Conditioning Coach was caught on camera tripping Miami Dolphins cornerback Nolan Carroll during the game. The team has released the following statement from Alosi:

“I made a mistake that showed a total lapse in judgment. My conduct was inexcusable and unsportsmanlike and does not reflect what this organization stands for. I spoke to Coach Sparano and Nolan Carroll to apologize before they took off. I have also apologized to Woody (Johnson), Mike (Tannenbaum) and Rex (Ryan). I accept responsibility for my actions as well as any punishment that follows.”

Expect to see punishment determined sooner rather than later. It is not clear yet if the NFL will also get involved.

At least he did the right thing instead of running from it. Now he gets fired.

We are a forgiving nation. The guy said he was sorry. Why are people so pumped up to see a person fired for a heat of the moment action??

BECAUSE, 10% of us do NOT have a job right now and would give anything to have one (and it looks like 30% of your town doesn't either) and SCUMBAGS like this with a great job doing what he enjoys the most in life, completely takes for granted what he has. He is a SCUMBAG and does not deserve to be involved with coaching professional football.

Displaced anger. Nice. I guess Misery loves Company.

Haters.

 

[Mookie]

It was classless, reflects poorly on the entire organization, and the guy should be fired. The longer the Jets rationalize and delay doing something, the more of an issue it becomes. The team has more important things to work on fixing - like how to score a TD.

 

[Andrew Garda]

He's allowed to stand where he was. He's NOT allowed to stand where he was and TRIP someone. It's no grand conspiracy to be at the line there nor is it poor sportsmanship to be in a players way when he's running out of bounds. It's BOTH things to trip a guy while you stand there though.

I disagree with the notion that this was a split-second mistake. It sure appears the Jets arrayed a line of dudes expressly to obstruct the gunner if/when he was shoved out of bounds.

Standing there was not a split second decision. Tripping the guy likely was. one is illegal and dirty pool, one isn't.Players and staff stand at the white line ALL the time (though not nearly so neatly in a row). Watch the games tonight. This isn't some new wrinkle is it? Am I missing something?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

The guy made a mistake, the same kind of mistake that players make all the time during heated games. It had zero impact on the game. Instead of a penalty give the guy a fine and move on.

This guys is not a 23 yr old right out of college NFL KID. He is a COACH. If he worked for me, you better believe he would've been fired on the spot. Woody Johnson should be EMBARRASSED about having such a Scumbag in his payroll.

you NEED to calm DOWN!

 

[road warrior]

Disgusting. Classless and pathetic. This joke of a coach should be fired immediately and fined severely. The Jets as a team should be fined and I hope they miss the playoffs. I actually like Rex Ryan but I am not a fan of his team and this only solidifies that dislike.

Amazing how many people here believe that he should be fired for a split second mistake, that is is admitting to and atoning for. I could see a fine, maybe even a small suspension, but a lot if people living in glass houses around here. I mean the guy prolly has a family and it's 2 weeks before christmas. You people are so hyperbolic about everything.

Here's what's funny. If the Jets organization had come out last night or early this morning and addressed this as a fine / susupension (as you suggest), then we'd be beyond this. Fact is, not only did the guy appologize yesterday, but had to perform another dog and pony show today for the media... with no Jets administration around for support. Interesting, for an organization who has spent the last 2 years running their mouths.... you can't find anyone who wants to talk today.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

This kind of reminded me of the time time Bill Cowher lunged at Jaguars DB Chris Hudson on a blocked field goal return in '97.

Cowher did lunge and he pulled himself back. He never made contact. This coach should be fired and never allowed on an NFL sideline again. I am not saying he should never work in the NFL, but he is not to be trusted on a sideline during an NFL game.

He didn't stab the guy, or hit him with a bat. Couldn't he take soem anger management classes, do some community service/talk to kids or something. That's what they would do in court with a case this minor.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Unfortunately I think he should be fired. It shouldn't be mandated from the NFL, but if I was running the Jets organization, I would let him go.You cannot have staff who's instinct in that situation is to do something illegal and potentially harmful. Not only that, you have to be pretty close to a moron to do something like that knowing that there's a million cameras out there. If you don't know that, then you're not really into what's going on around you, either way he's not someone you need around the sidelines.If the Jets keep this guy, to me it makes them look bad. This was no accident, this was a clear move to make this guy either fall or jump over him to slow him down, either way the intention was basically cheating in some form.I don't know, the NFL may fire him anyway. I'm don't think this is the type of incident they want to be associated with. I would think they want a no tolerance rule on something like this.Personally, I hope he keeps his job, I'd hate to see a guy lose it this time of year......he'll be lucky if he does though.

Unlike the previously mentioned spygate in which there was a premeditated plan to cheat, this was a spur of the moment action. He prolly had less than 1 second between when he saw the guy that close to him and his 'leg clench'. It wasn't like he planned to do this. I don't think that this transgression is so revealing of a bankrupt character that he could never work in the nfl again. Some of you are just so ready to get the pitchforks and torches.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I was responding to another poster comparing the situation, you responded to me. So no, I didn't bring him up.

Got it. I'm not a hater. Vick is a piece of #### though. Make no mistake about that. But what he did is nothing compared to bending one's knee while a player runs past.

 

[davearm]

He's allowed to stand where he was. He's NOT allowed to stand where he was and TRIP someone. It's no grand conspiracy to be at the line there nor is it poor sportsmanship to be in a players way when he's running out of bounds. It's BOTH things to trip a guy while you stand there though.

I disagree with the notion that this was a split-second mistake. It sure appears the Jets arrayed a line of dudes expressly to obstruct the gunner if/when he was shoved out of bounds.

Standing there was not a split second decision. Tripping the guy likely was. one is illegal and dirty pool, one isn't.Players and staff stand at the white line ALL the time (though not nearly so neatly in a row). Watch the games tonight. This isn't some new wrinkle is it? Am I missing something?

Clearly standing where they were is not out of the ordinary, or illegal, or conspiratorial, or anything else.But when you're told, "hey, stand here and try to get in the gunner's way" I'm not going to buy the argument that sticking out the knee was a "split-second mistake". This guy just got too overzealous about doing his get-in-the-way job.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Unfortunately I think he should be fired. It shouldn't be mandated from the NFL, but if I was running the Jets organization, I would let him go.You cannot have staff who's instinct in that situation is to do something illegal and potentially harmful. Not only that, you have to be pretty close to a moron to do something like that knowing that there's a million cameras out there. If you don't know that, then you're not really into what's going on around you, either way he's not someone you need around the sidelines.If the Jets keep this guy, to me it makes them look bad. This was no accident, this was a clear move to make this guy either fall or jump over him to slow him down, either way the intention was basically cheating in some form.I don't know, the NFL may fire him anyway. I'm don't think this is the type of incident they want to be associated with. I would think they want a no tolerance rule on something like this.Personally, I hope he keeps his job, I'd hate to see a guy lose it this time of year......he'll be lucky if he does though.

Unlike the previously mentioned spygate in which there was a premeditated plan to cheat, this was a spur of the moment action. He prolly had less than 1 second between when he saw the guy that close to him and his 'leg clench'. It wasn't like he planned to do this. I don't think that this transgression is so revealing of a bankrupt character that he could never work in the nfl again. Some of you are just so ready to get the pitchforks and torches.

Unless the team instructed him, and his buddies to stand there as an impediment to the gunner, if the gunner gets pushed out. In that case, the team is complicit in putting him in a situation, and mindset, to disrupt the runner.If this was the case, the team bears more culpability for putting the guy in position to make an error in judgement.

 

[goldenchild]

Satonio Holmes DID run that way too? Hmmmm....

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

You guys are totally lost with this heat of the moment crap.This guy isn't on the field playing. He's standing on the sideline with his hands in his pockets playing pocket pool. What "moment" are we talking about here? Every time he's standing idly and someone runs past him? It's understandable to trip someone in the heat of that moment?

The moment right before he decided should i jump out of the way or flex out my leg. It was at most 1/4 of a second upon further review

 

[glock]

Linky. (scroll down)

November 1978. Fairfield (Connecticut) University led Western New England College 15-14 in the third quarter. Western New England's Jim Brown, returning a kickoff, had eluded every Fairfield defender and appeared to be on his way to a touchdown. Then, Fairfield coach Ed Hall ran out and tackled Brown at midfield. "Are you out of your mind, coach?" said Brown. "I guess I am," said Hall.

Hall, then 48, had played running back and defensive back for the University of Bridgeport in his prime, about two decades earlier. Brown was credited with an 84-yard TD run. The ref tossed Hall from the game.

"Something just happened to me," said Hall, "and the next thing I knew, the referee was standing over me and screaming at me to get out of the game. As I started walking to the rear of the bleachers, with the crowd booing me, I broke down and cried."

Even weeks later, Hall couldn't explain what happened. "I've been coaching for 22 years, and there have been many instances where opposing players have run right in front of me. But I never had a strong impulse to tackle them."

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Well yeah. But it seems like knowing that, several Jets personnel set up a wall to prevent the gunner from getting back in bounds easily. Not sure if that's illegal though.

Check out where the coach who tripped the guy's left foot is -- right on the line that defines the end of the team bench area. Sure does seem like this line of bodies was totally intentional.It also makes it clear why these guys were aware of obstructing the Miami gunner.

I don't think anyone can look at the images and not think it's an intentional strategy. But assuming there had been no tripping, I'm wondering if setting up such a wall is legal.

I'll bet they are told that if they are beyond that stripe to stand their ground as it is their turf/tough cookies on the gunner, he just stood his ground and added an few inches when that wasn't enough

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Disgusting. Classless and pathetic. This joke of a coach should be fired immediately and fined severely. The Jets as a team should be fined and I hope they miss the playoffs. I actually like Rex Ryan but I am not a fan of his team and this only solidifies that dislike.

Amazing how many people here believe that he should be fired for a split second mistake, that is is admitting to and atoning for. I could see a fine, maybe even a small suspension, but a lot if people living in glass houses around here. I mean the guy prolly has a family and it's 2 weeks before christmas. You people are so hyperbolic about everything.

I agree with your conclusion that the guy shouldn't be fired.I disagree with the notion that this was a split-second mistake. It sure appears the Jets intentionally arrayed a line of dudes expressly to obstruct the gunner if/when he was shoved out of bounds. This coach was fully aware of why he was standing where he was.

i been seeing that argued, and I'm not sure. But even assuming he was doing that the decision to trip him affirmatively instead of standing the ground is still a split second one. If they had though it out further they would have known they'd be on camera. Anyway we prolly won't have to speculate to much, the NY media will be all over this, especially with a second mnf game to fill time on.

 

[glock]

Linky.

...In the second quarter, with the Owls already up 7-0, they set up shop on their own five yard line. Maegle took a quick pitch, broke off-tackle, and headed for the sidelines. With nothing but daylight ahead, he was headed for a 95-yard touchdown run.

On the 'Bama bench, Tommy Lewis, a reserve back, had had all he could take. Maegle was in the clear, at the Alabama 40, when Lewis burst off the bench to bring him down. Confusion reigned; the officials huddled. Coach Neely dashed across the field, challenging Tide coach Harold "Red" Drew. "Rayud, Rayud," he drawled, "what did yo boy think he was doin'?" Lewis moaned, "Coach, I was jus' so full of Ala-bahma." The officials awarded Rice the TD; the Owls won going away-- and both players later traveled to New York to tell about it on the Ed Sullivan show.

Dickie Maegle later said he felt like Ed Sullivan treated him like the heel and Tommy Lewis like a hero. "Heck, I was the one who scored the touchdown!" he said.

 

[Man In The Box]

You guys are totally lost with this heat of the moment crap.This guy isn't on the field playing. He's standing on the sideline with his hands in his pockets playing pocket pool. What "moment" are we talking about here? Every time he's standing idly and someone runs past him? It's understandable to trip someone in the heat of that moment?

The moment right before he decided should i jump out of the way or flex out my leg. It was at most 1/4 of a second upon further review

My question was rhetorical. Meaning, why is it even in his line of thinking to trip the guy as he's running past? I'm not buying the split second decision stuff, sorry.

 

[fatness]

Unlike the previously mentioned spygate in which there was a premeditated plan to cheat, this was a spur of the moment action.

There's no evidence that this was a spur of the moment action.

 

[Kit Fisto]

You guys are totally lost with this heat of the moment crap.This guy isn't on the field playing. He's standing on the sideline with his hands in his pockets playing pocket pool. What "moment" are we talking about here? Every time he's standing idly and someone runs past him? It's understandable to trip someone in the heat of that moment?

The moment right before he decided should i jump out of the way or flex out my leg. It was at most 1/4 of a second upon further review

My question was rhetorical. Meaning, why is it even in his line of thinking to trip the guy as he's running past? I'm not buying the split second decision stuff, sorry.

Neither do I. Neither does any rational human being. I call

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Linky. (scroll down)

November 1978. Fairfield (Connecticut) University led Western New England College 15-14 in the third quarter. Western New England's Jim Brown, returning a kickoff, had eluded every Fairfield defender and appeared to be on his way to a touchdown. Then, Fairfield coach Ed Hall ran out and tackled Brown at midfield. "Are you out of your mind, coach?" said Brown. "I guess I am," said Hall.

Hall, then 48, had played running back and defensive back for the University of Bridgeport in his prime, about two decades earlier. Brown was credited with an 84-yard TD run. The ref tossed Hall from the game.

"Something just happened to me," said Hall, "and the next thing I knew, the referee was standing over me and screaming at me to get out of the game. As I started walking to the rear of the bleachers, with the crowd booing me, I broke down and cried."

Even weeks later, Hall couldn't explain what happened. "I've been coaching for 22 years, and there have been many instances where opposing players have run right in front of me. But I never had a strong impulse to tackle them."

please tell me there is video of this....

 

[fruity pebbles]

Since this was obviously premeditated by not only him but the others standing next to him. Doesnt it stand to reason that this idea came from higher up than him and probably the reason he wasnt fired.

 

[fatness]

Looking at that gauntlet of assistant coaches on the sideline, it's good to see the Jets are 5 or 6 deep at Tripper.