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Kansas City Chiefs at Miami Dolphins (1 Viewer)

I have a sickening feeling that Holmes won't be getting any 100 yard games from here on out.
He catches, he runs, he is having multiple TD games, what more do you want? The 5 TD games are likely over, but 2 scores and 100+ combined are pretty sweet to me.
 
remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!
As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.
Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.
The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.
What were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.
Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDs

All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)

So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs

The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBs
Good research. :thumbup: I concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to his post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.

Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.

When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.

 
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Boy, Chambers is really laying an egg tonight.  I don't care how much raw talent they keep saying he has - that just doesn't get it done in Fantasy Football.  And what's up with FBG's rating the Miami passing matchup against KC as "Great"?  A very bad offense against a very bad defense does not equal "great" matchup.
On a more positive note,nice chicken!
:lmao: great post :banned:
 
How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
in kc or in sd?
in SD
won't help them all that much. should be a good game.
Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?
??what's your point?
You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.
WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.
Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?
 
How is it possible to get targeted over 10 f'ing time with ZERO catches, Chambers?  This is unbelievable.  Frerotte is either a Joke (likely) or KC is consistently doubling Chambers.  I cannot believe this....
LOL, I'm laughing with you.....but look at what you said. Either he's a joke or KC is consistantly doubling Chambers. He must be either way because he's a joke if he can't complete a pass to him in 10 trys right? And if he's throwing to him 10 times and he's double covered.....then he's a joke for doing that too. I thought Miami had a good TE?
DOH! You're right. He is a joke. Any way you slice it.....
 
remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!
As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.
Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.
The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.
What were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.
Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDs

All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)

So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs

The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBs
Good research. :thumbup: I concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to your post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.

Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.

When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.
I'll agree to that, when they elected to throw the ball, big Tony seemed to be there to slam dunk it over the goal post.I don't know why, but I always hear Dan Dierdorf in my head when I think of Tony dunking over the goalpost, he must have done his fair share of chief games I've watched.

 
The funniest part about the Priest/LJ owners complaining so much in this thread is that both guys are going to end up with 20+ carries. And the same people would probably be right here complaining if either of them got hurt after carrying the ball 40 times.

 
How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
in kc or in sd?
in SD
won't help them all that much. should be a good game.
Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?
??what's your point?
You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.
WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.
Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?
yes - it definitely helps.No, it doesn't give them "all that much" (<--- my exact words) of an advantage.

He asked if I thought it gave them an advantage - no, I don't think it gives them all that much of an advantage. Should be a good game

bold = my exact original response.

 
NFL gamecast shows Kawika with the tackle- funny how that works on an interception by his teamate. Wonder if they score it for him- if so :thumbup: for my fantasy stats

 
Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?

My bad, although not entirely necessary with the name calling.

 
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Miami Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL   R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0   R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0
And for your consolation prize, a shiny 6 foot bong with easy carb system and smooth pull technology.
Does it include a case of The Beast for use as bongwater?
 
The Fins play calling is atrocious
It sure is. What would you do if your QB is averaging 11.4 yds a completion and 4.2 yds per attempt and your Rb is averaging 11 yds per touch and 11.8 yds per rush?

I think I'd stop trying to make Chambers the focal point of the offense.

I know Saban wants to keep Brown fresh throughout the game but now is the time to let it all hang out.

 
remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!
As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.
Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.
The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.
What were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.
Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDs

All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)

So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs

The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBs
Good research. :thumbup: I concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to your post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.

Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.

When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.
Roughly,In 2004, the Chiefs had 75 targets in the red zone, 48 receptions and 14 TDs

In 2003, the Chiefs had 60 targets in the red zone, 32 receptions and 18 TDs

In 2002, the Chiefs had 55 targets in the red zone, 34 receptions and 15 TDs

In 2004, Gonzalez had 24 targets, 18 receptions and 3 TDs

In 2003, Gonazlez had 20 targets, 14 receptions and 8 TDs

In 2002, Gonzalez had 21 targets, 10 receptions and 5 TDs

He saw 32% of red zone targets in 2004, 33% in 2003, and 38% in 2002.

He caught 21% of red zone TDs in 2004, 44% in 2003, and 33% in 2001.

 
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How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
in kc or in sd?
in SD
won't help them all that much. should be a good game.
Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?
??what's your point?
You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.
WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.
Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?
Turd snurgler? :confused:

 
Anyone else have problems picking a kicker? I have Tynes from KC and Lindell from Buf. This is in a 16 team idp league with 30 man rosters so most teams hold onto 2 kickers for bye weeks. I seem to pick whichever kicker has an off day. I took Lindell for this week. I must be around 1 for 7 in choosing which kicker would do better. :wall:

 
Anyone else have problems picking a kicker? I have Tynes from KC and Lindell from Buf. This is in a 16 team idp league with 30 man rosters so most teams hold onto 2 kickers for bye weeks. I seem to pick whichever kicker has an off day. I took Lindell for this week. I must be around 1 for 7 in choosing which kicker would do better. :wall:
nope - just you. :P
 
HOLY CRAP! Chambers sighting.....
and now we return you to our regularly scheduled programming...3-10-MIA 17 (7:41) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass incomplete to C.Chambers (P.Surtain).

 
The funniest part about the Priest/LJ owners complaining so much in this thread is that both guys are going to end up with 20+ carries. And the same people would probably be right here complaining if either of them got hurt after carrying the ball 40 times.
Hopefully you're right and Vermeil is just trying to limit Priests total touches to the low 20's. On the downside we could be seeing the beginning of a shift from 2:1 to 2:2.
 
HOLY CRAP! Chambers sighting.....
:mellow: Like I said. WTF is Saban concentrating on getting the ball to Chambers? That focus in the gameplan may be what has costed the Dolphins this game.

They were within striking distance in the first half but the playcalling has cost them.

 
remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!
As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.
Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.
The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.
What were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.
Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDs

All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)

So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs

The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBs
Good research. :thumbup: I concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to your post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.

Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.

When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.
Roughly,In 2004, the Chiefs had 75 targets in the red zone, 48 receptions and 14 TDs

In 2003, the Chiefs had 60 targets in the red zone, 32 receptions and 18 TDs

In 2002, the Chiefs had 55 targets in the red zone, 34 receptions and 15 TDs

In 2004, Gonzalez had 24 targets, 18 receptions and 3 TDs

In 2003, Gonazlez had 20 targets, 14 receptions and 8 TDs

In 2002, Gonzalez had 21 targets, 10 receptions and 5 TDs

He saw 32% of red zone targets in 2004, 33% in 2003, and 38% in 2002.

He caught 21% of red zone TDs in 2004, 44% in 2003, and 33% in 2001.
"Roughly" :lmao: Can you come with me to the draft next year? :D

 
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How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
in kc or in sd?
in SD
won't help them all that much. should be a good game.
All that much doesnt mean "Yes in def. helps".Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?
??what's your point?
You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.
WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.
Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?
yes - it definitely helps.No, it doesn't give them "all that much" (<--- my exact words) of an advantage.

He asked if I thought it gave them an advantage - no, I don't think it gives them all that much of an advantage. Should be a good game

bold = my exact original response.
All that much doesnt mean "Yes it def. helps"
 
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who was complainting about Gonzo?He's their leading receiver with 7 catches and 60+ yards - that is perfectly fine for a TE - esp. in PPR leagues.

 
If I were Chambers, I would walk up to Frerotte and punch him squarely in the jaw, ROMO style. If Chambers didn't know any better, he'd think he was just in a full contact track meet. No need to catch anything, just run around as fast as you can until you're nailed.

 
Hey can you folks with the argument going STOP QUOTING THE WHOLE CONVERSATION please.

Thanks
From the guy that repeats his name time after time after time. Sure, we can do that, I get annoyed at times. However, sometimes you just have to include it in the argument JoeyX's 3
 
The funniest part about the Priest/LJ owners complaining so much in this thread is that both guys are going to end up with 20+ carries.  And the same people would probably be right here complaining if either of them got hurt after carrying the ball 40 times.
Hopefully you're right and Vermeil is just trying to limit Priests total touches to the low 20's. On the downside we could be seeing the beginning of a shift from 2:1 to 2:2.
I really think it is because of Miami ineptitude more than anything else. Priest is running in TDs from over 30 yards, you want that on the field. LJ is good, but not Priest good.
 

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