He catches, he runs, he is having multiple TD games, what more do you want? The 5 TD games are likely over, but 2 scores and 100+ combined are pretty sweet to me.I have a sickening feeling that Holmes won't be getting any 100 yard games from here on out.
Good research.Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDsWhat were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)
So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs
The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBs
On a more positive note,nice chicken!Boy, Chambers is really laying an egg tonight. I don't care how much raw talent they keep saying he has - that just doesn't get it done in Fantasy Football. And what's up with FBG's rating the Miami passing matchup against KC as "Great"? A very bad offense against a very bad defense does not equal "great" matchup.
great post 
17 points - and the fins just turned it over again.I don't see how being up 14 points with almost 12 minutes to go is garbage time.
The Dolphins are doing nothing, why chance hurting your stud in a game that is already pretty much over?I don't see how being up 14 points with almost 12 minutes to go is garbage time.
How they turn it over?17 points - and the fins just turned it over again.I don't see how being up 14 points with almost 12 minutes to go is garbage time.
is he back in?ok Holmes lets get that 100 yards and 3rd TD now
batted ball and intHow they turn it over?17 points - and the fins just turned it over again.I don't see how being up 14 points with almost 12 minutes to go is garbage time.
Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0
R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0

Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.??what's your point?Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?won't help them all that much. should be a good game.in SDin kc or in sd?How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
DOH! You're right. He is a joke. Any way you slice it.....LOL, I'm laughing with you.....but look at what you said. Either he's a joke or KC is consistantly doubling Chambers. He must be either way because he's a joke if he can't complete a pass to him in 10 trys right? And if he's throwing to him 10 times and he's double covered.....then he's a joke for doing that too. I thought Miami had a good TE?How is it possible to get targeted over 10 f'ing time with ZERO catches, Chambers? This is unbelievable. Frerotte is either a Joke (likely) or KC is consistently doubling Chambers. I cannot believe this....
I'll agree to that, when they elected to throw the ball, big Tony seemed to be there to slam dunk it over the goal post.I don't know why, but I always hear Dan Dierdorf in my head when I think of Tony dunking over the goalpost, he must have done his fair share of chief games I've watched.Good research.Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDsWhat were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)
So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs
The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBsI concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to your post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.
Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.
When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.
And for your consolation prize, a shiny 6 foot bong with easy carb system and smooth pull technology.Code:Miami Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0 R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0
I've got Ricky Williams, you want to make a tradeRush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0
R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0![]()

yes - it definitely helps.No, it doesn't give them "all that much" (<--- my exact words) of an advantage.Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.??what's your point?Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?won't help them all that much. should be a good game.in SDin kc or in sd?How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
Does it include a case of The Beast for use as bongwater?And for your consolation prize, a shiny 6 foot bong with easy carb system and smooth pull technology.Code:Miami Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0 R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0
Where does the line for this start?And for your consolation prize, a shiny 6 foot bong with easy carb system and smooth pull technology.Code:Miami Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0 R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0

It sure is. What would you do if your QB is averaging 11.4 yds a completion and 4.2 yds per attempt and your Rb is averaging 11 yds per touch and 11.8 yds per rush?The Fins play calling is atrocious
Roughly,In 2004, the Chiefs had 75 targets in the red zone, 48 receptions and 14 TDsGood research.Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDsWhat were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)
So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs
The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBsI concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to your post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.
Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.
When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.
Where does the line for this start?And for your consolation prize, a shiny 6 foot bong with easy carb system and smooth pull technology.Code:Miami Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0 R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0![]()

Turd snurgler?Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.??what's your point?Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?won't help them all that much. should be a good game.in SDin kc or in sd?How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
Mint tea is MUCH better!Does it include a case of The Beast for use as bongwater?And for your consolation prize, a shiny 6 foot bong with easy carb system and smooth pull technology.Code:Miami Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0 R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0

nope - just you.Anyone else have problems picking a kicker? I have Tynes from KC and Lindell from Buf. This is in a 16 team idp league with 30 man rosters so most teams hold onto 2 kickers for bye weeks. I seem to pick whichever kicker has an off day. I took Lindell for this week. I must be around 1 for 7 in choosing which kicker would do better.![]()
Hey can you folks with the argument going STOP QUOTING THE WHOLE CONVERSATION please.
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and now we return you to our regularly scheduled programming...3-10-MIA 17 (7:41) (Shotgun) G.Frerotte pass incomplete to C.Chambers (P.Surtain).HOLY CRAP! Chambers sighting.....
65 of those yds are on one carryRush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
R. Brown 8 95 11.9 65 1 0
R. Williams 6 -1 -0.2 4 0 0![]()
Hopefully you're right and Vermeil is just trying to limit Priests total touches to the low 20's. On the downside we could be seeing the beginning of a shift from 2:1 to 2:2.The funniest part about the Priest/LJ owners complaining so much in this thread is that both guys are going to end up with 20+ carries. And the same people would probably be right here complaining if either of them got hurt after carrying the ball 40 times.
HOLY CRAP! Chambers sighting.....
Like I said. WTF is Saban concentrating on getting the ball to Chambers? That focus in the gameplan may be what has costed the Dolphins this game."Roughly"Roughly,In 2004, the Chiefs had 75 targets in the red zone, 48 receptions and 14 TDsGood research.Off the top of my head, I'd guess that last year in the red zone:Chiefs RBs had 28 TDs ; Tony Gonzalez had 3 TDsWhat were the other 31 teams' ratios of rushing-to-TE TDs?Gonzo has done pretty well in years past.The rushing game of KC last year had over a 3-1 ratio to TD's vs. Gonzo last year who had 7 Td's.......as far as Td's go, Gonzo had a more productive year the previous year with 10.Be right back then, I'll look up the rushing TD's vs. the Td's Gonzo had to see who's territory it was.As a Gonzo owner last year, I'd recommend going back and reviewing the stats.No, I remember Priest scoring 3, 4 and 5 Td's a game with an occasional TD pass thrown in there...........and they'd lose by 3!remember when the Chiefs in the red zone was Tony Gonzalez territory....ahhhhh, those were the days.....
All NFL RBs had 388 TDs; All NFL TEs had 158 TDs (this include's Kris Wilson's 3 TDs)
So Gonzalez had 11% as many TDs as Chiefs RBs
The average NFL TE had 41% as many TDs as NFL RBsI concede your point, but would like to say that I was referring to your post and the overall ratio of 3:1 and Gonzo'z total of 7.
Also, not "every" TE in the league, but #1s only. If a team throws 2 TDs each to 3 different guys, it's not very productive fantasy-wise, nor is it an indication of a team's confidence in a player.
When KC did elect to throw in the red zone last year, they looked to Gonzo pretty frequently.
In 2003, the Chiefs had 60 targets in the red zone, 32 receptions and 18 TDs
In 2002, the Chiefs had 55 targets in the red zone, 34 receptions and 15 TDs
In 2004, Gonzalez had 24 targets, 18 receptions and 3 TDs
In 2003, Gonazlez had 20 targets, 14 receptions and 8 TDs
In 2002, Gonzalez had 21 targets, 10 receptions and 5 TDs
He saw 32% of red zone targets in 2004, 33% in 2003, and 38% in 2002.
He caught 21% of red zone TDs in 2004, 44% in 2003, and 33% in 2001.
Can you come with me to the draft next year?
All that much doesnt mean "Yes it def. helps"yes - it definitely helps.No, it doesn't give them "all that much" (<--- my exact words) of an advantage.Im not talking to you turd snurgler im talking to Marc...Marc my point is it helps,what dont you understand?WTF is wrong with you?That was my point. How much....not if...it will help the Chiefs. IMO as a Chiefs fan this was not a game I thought they could win in SD.You havent,getting out of bed after a game is a task.Your sore during practice and it usually carries over to the next game.Extra days are the best thing that can happen.??what's your point?All that much doesnt mean "Yes in def. helps".Wont help them at all...have you ever played football?won't help them all that much. should be a good game.in SDin kc or in sd?How much do you think the extra 2 days rest will help KC against SD next week.
He asked if I thought it gave them an advantage - no, I don't think it gives them all that much of an advantage. Should be a good game
bold = my exact original response.
From the guy that repeats his name time after time after time. Sure, we can do that, I get annoyed at times. However, sometimes you just have to include it in the argument JoeyX's 3Hey can you folks with the argument going STOP QUOTING THE WHOLE CONVERSATION please.
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I really think it is because of Miami ineptitude more than anything else. Priest is running in TDs from over 30 yards, you want that on the field. LJ is good, but not Priest good.Hopefully you're right and Vermeil is just trying to limit Priests total touches to the low 20's. On the downside we could be seeing the beginning of a shift from 2:1 to 2:2.The funniest part about the Priest/LJ owners complaining so much in this thread is that both guys are going to end up with 20+ carries. And the same people would probably be right here complaining if either of them got hurt after carrying the ball 40 times.