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Kyle Rittenhouse Trial: Defense Rests. Resisting the urge to go full HT and just purge this crapshow of a thread. (5 Viewers)

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BiGOT:  a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Kyle is hated and is the villian because he is seen as part of this conservative group.  Had he been on the side of the protesters, the hatred projected towards Kyle would not exist.  That is the very definition of being a bigot.  
Oh so show me who is being bigoted?  its not "unreasonable" to think he went there with intent to shoot people when HE ACTUALLY SAID HE WANTED TO.  Sure maybe he was joking but then he went there with his weopon and that makes it quite reasonable to assume that. 

 
It is possible to condemn both actions.  Not all posts have to be KR vs. Rosenbaum.     Not all posts have to be Rittenhouse vs. rioters.     People can think that all the people involved - rioters, Rosenbaum, Rittenhouse share in this, have no business doing what they were doing, and should be punished.  
This is where I am.  Kind of tired of having to constantly decide which wrongs are more wrong, who's more to blame, media forcing people to pick sides BS.         

 
Oh so show me who is being bigoted?  its not "unreasonable" to think he went there with intent to shoot people when HE ACTUALLY SAID HE WANTED TO.  Sure maybe he was joking but then he went there with his weopon and that makes it quite reasonable to assume that. 
Dude, let it go. You are arguing with the most biased, radicalized,  bigoted person in the forum. Put him on ignore and let him do his skyscreaming act for its intended audience, which is not you, or anyone else interested in real discourse.

 
This is where I am.  Kind of tired of having to constantly decide which wrongs are more wrong, who's more to blame, media forcing people to pick sides BS.         
So many posts go down this road that, and it's endlessly frustrating.   As though if you think Rittenhouse was wrong being there that instantly means you think it was OK for people to be burning #### down.  

 
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Oh so show me who is being bigoted?  its not "unreasonable" to think he went there with intent to shoot people when HE ACTUALLY SAID HE WANTED TO.  Sure maybe he was joking but then he went there with his weopon and that makes it quite reasonable to assume that. 


No, it is not even remotely close to reasonable.  It is an asinine belief based on prejudice.  It is such a gross extrapolation from any rationale thought and ignores mountains of evidence to the contrary 

 
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It is possible to condemn both actions.  Not all posts have to be KR vs. Rosenbaum.     Not all posts have to be Rittenhouse vs. rioters.     People can think that all the people involved - rioters, Rosenbaum, Rittenhouse share in this, have no business doing what they were doing, and should be punished.  
Then I cannot agree with that. Rioters were there to riot and cause destruction. Rittenhouse was there to protect property and help people. Rioters attacked and are the aggressor here. Rittenhouse acted in self defense and I would hope that if any other person from any walk of life was attacked by an unruly mob, people would come to that person's defense as well if they fought back. 

 
Dude, let it go. You are arguing with the most biased, radicalized,  bigoted person in the forum. Put him on ignore and let him do his skyscreaming act for its intended audience, which is not you, or anyone else interested in real discourse.
yea i know.  i just get sucked in sometimes. 

 
The police letting people riot is why random citizens took up arms to protect. Kyle was not the only person there that night armed to protect people and property. 

And again, no he was not an instigator. This narrative made up by the media that Kyle is some rando from far away is the only thing you have left despite it being disproven over and over. The bottom line is Kyle had more right to be there than the rioters. Had they not attacked him, they would not be dead. 
That people think this post is funny is exactly the problem with this country. 

 
I mean, he could have stayed home. Why did a teenager go out into the eye of the storm with a gun and ammo? Anyone here honestly naive enough to believe a kid went out to the riots with his rifle to "keep the peace"?
I do, yes.  Rittenhouse was 17 at the time.  Lots of 17 year-olds are idealistic, naive, and a little dopey.  I certainly was when I was that age.  My personal flavor of dopiness didn't involve showing up at a riot with a rifle, but it's very easy for me to believe that a kid like Rittenhouse -- who was obviously raised differently -- was earnest about "helping his community."

It's also worth noting that all of RIttenhouse's actions that day, starting with his community service all the way through his consistent efforts to flee aggressors, run away from conflict, and seek out the police, all point in that same direction.  If he wanted to just stand his ground and pick people off, he had ample opportunity to do so.  He didn't.  That's very solid evidence that that wasn't his motivation.

Again, the question is not "Did Rittenhouse make a wise decision to attend the riot?"  Obviously no.  The issue that the trial is trying to sort out is "Did Rittenhouse commit murder or some other violent crime?"  The answer seems pretty clearly no based on what we've seen.

 
Dude, let it go. You are arguing with the most biased, radicalized,  bigoted person in the forum. Put him on ignore and let him do his skyscreaming act for its intended audience, which is not you, or anyone else interested in real discourse.


There are dozens of far more biased irrational folks on your side including you.  I don't fall for bullcrap arguments like you.  I didn't fall from bullcrap from Trump.  My opinions are based on facts and will change if facts change.  People who still think Kyle went there to kill people are bigots. Period. 

 
oh so he lived in that community?  he was  a professional security officer or police officer assigned to that community?  If not why was a person who you agree claimed he wanted to go there after seeing it on tv and shoot people even there?  Just like any rioters, he should not have been there. 

BTW did anyone else shoot someone that evening or was it only Kyle? 
He works in that community and his dad lives there. This has been well documented except for in the MSM which is why so many are struggling getting past this narrative. You were deceived. It sucks and I realize the last year makes no sense now with that understanding but hopefully you can grow from it and learn not to trust everything that is presented to you on tv. 

 
That people think this post is funny is exactly the problem with this country. 


I would say the bigger problem is close-mindedness.  People should come to these types of issues with open minds and exchange of ideas - instead they come here sticking to their preconceived notions and the need to feel they can win an exchange with a weak response.

Like you.

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Then I cannot agree with that. Rioters were there to riot and cause destruction. Rittenhouse was there to protect property and help people. Rioters attacked and are the aggressor here. Rittenhouse acted in self defense and I would hope that if any other person from any walk of life was attacked by an unruly mob, people would come to that person's defense as well if they fought back. 
Yeah, I'm not surprised, but that's ok and expected.     IMO everybody there that wasn't law enforcement was making a choice,  not a good one, and one they knew could end in violence.    I could give a bit of a pass if that was the first protest ---> riot we saw, but I am guessing most of us could predict what was going to take place.   

 
I would say the bigger problem is close-mindedness.  People should come to these types of issues with open minds and exchange of ideas - instead they come here sticking to their preconceived notions and the need to feel they can win an exchange with a weak response.

Like you.

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The irony of this post could not be heavier. 

 
Having looked at the last couple of pages, it would probably be a good idea for everybody to chill out a little.  A bunch of you are going to get timeouts and miss the verdict itself.

 
.  He’s as bad and worse than rioters who drive from out of town to go instigate peaceful protests.  


Direct Headline: Kyle Rittenhouse’s white crocodile tears hold value in America

The man charged with homicide in the deaths of two anti-police brutality protesters put on quite the show for a nearly all-white jury this week....The Rittenhouse murder trial is being prosecuted in front of a nearly all-white jury, before a white judge who uses conservative lingo to describe protesters, in a country where white vigilantism is often excused, if not worshipped.

By Ja'han Jones Nov. 11, 2021, 10:29 AM PST

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-tears-murder-trial-rcna5239

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Saying Rittenhouse is "bad" or any other shot external to the case is a way to try to sell the activist narrative that Rittenhouse is guilty despite the knotty problem that he will almost assuredly be found Not Guilty in a court of law. If you can't slaughter them in a court of law, then make sure there is blood in the court of public opinion.

"Anti Police Brutality Protesters" is one way to frame the situation. How about "Career Criminals And Rioters"?

Authoritarian regimes always begin by turning the screws on the demographic most likely to resist the widespread use of an oppressive police state. In this case, it's white males.

Many of you are white males. Many of you have sons who are white males.

Everyone has their free speech ( for now) Everyone has the right to their own vote ( for now) Everyone has the choice in their free expression ( for now) But the question remains. How many adult white males here voted for and supported the pathway towards their own targeting?

Many of your sons will grow up to become these designated "racist white male vigilante" cannon fodder for the needed target rich environment required for this insidious agenda.

 
Yeah, I'm not surprised, but that's ok and expected.     IMO everybody there that wasn't law enforcement was making a choice,  not a good one, and one they knew could end in violence.    I could give a bit of a pass if that was the first protest ---> riot we saw, but I am guessing most of us could predict what was going to take place.   
It's because it wasn't the first protest that he was there. Like others, they watched the first nights of mayhem and destruction in their community and said "Cops won't do something, then I will." He went out to help people and brought his gun for protection. That concept right there is so foreign to some of you because you immediately associate gun to lunatic thanks to the media beating it in your heads everyday that guns automatically cause violence. 

 
He works in that community and his dad lives there. This has been well documented except for in the MSM which is why so many are struggling getting past this narrative. You were deceived. It sucks and I realize the last year makes no sense now with that understanding but hopefully you can grow from it and learn not to trust everything that is presented to you on tv. 
He was protecting his business or his dads business?  Got a link?  Where was his dad? DId he go to see his dad?

 
I do, yes.  Rittenhouse was 17 at the time.  Lots of 17 year-olds are idealistic, naive, and a little dopey.  I certainly was when I was that age.  My personal flavor of dopiness didn't involve showing up at a riot with a rifle, but it's very easy for me to believe that a kid like Rittenhouse -- who was obviously raised differently -- was earnest about "helping his community."

It's also worth noting that all of RIttenhouse's actions that day, starting with his community service all the way through his consistent efforts to flee aggressors, run away from conflict, and seek out the police, all point in that same direction.  If he wanted to just stand his ground and pick people off, he had ample opportunity to do so.  He didn't.  That's very solid evidence that that wasn't his motivation.

Again, the question is not "Did Rittenhouse make a wise decision to attend the riot?"  Obviously no.  The issue that the trial is trying to sort out is "Did Rittenhouse commit murder or some other violent crime?"  The answer seems pretty clearly no based on what we've seen.
Great post

 
He was protecting his business or his dads business?  Got a link?  Where was his dad? DId he go to see his dad?
The links have been posted plenty. You have no interest in them and are just going along a thin thread of something the media continues to push. So you believe it to be true. Hopefully this trial causes you to reevaluate how you form opinions on public topics and you stop being led on by a biased media. 

 
It's because it wasn't the first protest that he was there. Like others, they watched the first nights of mayhem and destruction in their community and said "Cops won't do something, then I will." He went out to help people and brought his gun for protection. That concept right there is so foreign to some of you because you immediately associate gun to lunatic thanks to the media beating it in your heads everyday that guns automatically cause violence. 
This right here is a huge problem and the root if the issue here.  Especially when the "i will" people might be biased in some way.

 
It's because it wasn't the first protest that he was there. Like others, they watched the first nights of mayhem and destruction in their community and said "Cops won't do something, then I will." He went out to help people and brought his gun for protection. That concept right there is so foreign to some of you because you immediately associate gun to lunatic thanks to the media beating it in your heads everyday that guns automatically cause violence. 
Love these posts hinting that people who disagree with you do so just because they eat up liberal media and can't think for themselves.   

Like I said earlier, it's also interesting how many posts I read in these threads berating people on the left for supporting police reform over the last year+, but then similar people also don't seem to be for LE and the job they are trying to do.  

 
This right here is a huge problem and the root if the issue here.  Especially when the "i will" people might be biased in some way.
..and most likely have 0 training for such a situation.    I think we can all agree that the police themselves probably don't have enough training to handle extreme situations, let alone Joe Citizen.  

 
I single out Rittenhouse because he's the one who killed someone. Plenty of other people were guilty of crimes as well.


But we know now the killing wasn't a crime.  You see that right?

The guy that got shot and lived explained clearly that he was the aggressor.  Why not single him out?

 
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Love these posts hinting that people who disagree with you do so just because they eat up liberal media and can't think for themselves.   

Like I said earlier, it's also interesting how many posts I read in these threads berating people on the left for supporting police reform over the last year+, but then similar people also don't seem to be for LE and the job they are trying to do.  
The police hands were tied. That is why the police told Kyle how much they appreciate them. 

 
..and most likely have 0 training for such a situation.    I think we can all agree that the police themselves probably don't have enough training to handle extreme situations, let alone Joe Citizen.  


Strangely Kyle handled that situation better than any police officer I have ever seen. The mistake was his buddy who called Kyle and instructed him to go down there, who should have known Kyle was alone. That was the real stupid part that put Kyle into a trap.  

 
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I would say the bigger problem is close-mindedness.  People should come to these types of issues with open minds and exchange of ideas - instead they come here sticking to their preconceived notions and the need to feel they can win an exchange with a weak response.


Direct Headline: CBS deletes tweet stating Rittenhouse testified he 'murdered two men' after backlash

CBS slammed for 'libelous' wording

By Cortney O'Brien 11/12/21

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-slammed-after-tweeting-rittenhouse-testified-he-murdered-two-men-straight-up-libelous

TWEET: Mark Hemingway XX@XXHeminator

Again, a lot of (this) Rittenhouse (media) coverage and commentary is (plainly) straight up libelous.

7:02 AM · Nov 11, 2021

https://twitter.com/Heminator/status/1458812457657544710

Screen Shot Of CBS Tweeting That Rittenhouse Testified That He "Murdered" Two Men

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Let's unpack the "Let's Be Better" virtue signaling. Occasionally it is a call for people to stop their political tribalism. But most of the time, my observation is that it's a call for universal silence by one side when the facts and information presented no longer allows them to hold their ideology without being widely denounced for it.

CBS just plainly lies. They literally lie because the actual story doesn't fit their desired propaganda narrative.

I keep asking the same question that no one here wants to actually answer - What happens when it's you, or your spouse, or your parents, or your grandparents or your own children or any of your loved ones under the cross hairs of this clearly complicit structured insidious toxic freedom killing propaganda? What kind of public platform will you have to defend yourself against this orbital bombardment of outright lies, gaslighting and purity tests? How deep is your own personal financial warchest to battle this kind of ideological warfare? Who will come to help you once all the evil Conservatives and bigoted Republicans and all those "racist white male vigilantes" have been wiped out?

A lie is a lie. Virtue signaling as frosting doesn't change the lie.

 
My prediction on the verdict:

Not Guilty on all murder/attempted murder charges.

Hung jury on Reckless Endangerment charge

Guilty on Weapon charge.  

Ultimately remaining charges dismissed with prejudice based on Binger's conduct.

Hopefully they fix the jury instruction which conflicts with the law on how self-defense impacts reckless endangerment. 

If they do end up hung on the murder charges it will because a couple hopelessly prejudice people ended up on the jury. 

 
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My prediction on the verdict:

Not Guilty on all murder/attempted murder charges.

Hung jury on Reckless Endangerment charge

Guilty on Weapon charge.  

Ultimately remaining charges dismissed with prejudice based on Binger's conduct.

Hopefully they fix the jury instruction which conflicts with the law on how self-defense impacts reckless endangerment. 
Agree. 
Remind me.  WIth prejudice means they cant try him again correct?  What warrants a dismissal with prejudice vs without?  Im not really familiar with that stuff and how it works.

 
This right here is a huge problem and the root if the issue here.  Especially when the "i will" people might be biased in some way.
This article examines the issue I think pretty well. 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/thinking-about-rittenhouse-and-right-wing-murder-safaris

But the ins and outs of open carry nonsense aren’t what I want to discuss here. It’s rather the trajectory from that to Rittenhouse’s double murder to his expected acquittal. To most of us it is pretty obvious that it’s not good for society to have lots of people walking around in public settings carrying loaded firearms. Open carry activists and ‘gun rights’ supporters generally say that’s all wrong. The problem isn’t guns. The issue is when someone decides to commit a crime with one. If someone shoots someone that’s a crime and it should be punished.

This flies in the face of human nature, common sense and the fact that laws are intended not only to punish crimes but make them less likely to happen in the first place. But let’s take this argument at face value. No one is physically injured by these yahoos strutting around with their AR-15s. The moment that changes we have laws that cover that. Those laws carry severe penalties. So far so good.

But the Rittenhouse case shows how that is not really true. Permissive self-defense laws allow a Rittenhouse to have his aggression double as self-defense. You intentionally go into a chaotic situation. You travel across state lines, highly and visibly armed, allegedly to ‘protect’ people who haven’t asked for your protection. Then you feel threatened, which seems likely to happen in a chaotic place when you show up, chest puffed out with a military style weapon. Your perception of danger entitles you to murderous violence, which you arrived locked and loaded to pursue in the first place. In Rittenhouse’s case part of his perception of threat came when people freaked out after he’d shot and killed the first person. And of course only other people get hurt or killed because you’ve got the over-the-top firepower and they don’t.

If you operate within the chain of reasoning here you see the perverse connections. Self-defense laws exist because we as a society believe you are entitled to defend yourself with what would ordinarily be criminal violence if you face imminent, grave bodily harm to death. If someone breaks into your home and is threatening to kill you you have the right to kill them first. But if you created the dangerous or deadly situation the calculus changes. Or at least it should. Rittenhouse likely broke some laws being there with the gun in the first place. He was under 18 for instance. But the basic argument here is that Rittenhouse wasn’t doing anything wrong by just carrying around an AR-15. Wisconsin’s an open carry state. The inherent aggression and menace of carrying around high caliber weapons, which we’re told is only a problem for squeamish libs, becomes a path for the person carrying the fire arm to themselves feel threatened and decide they need to use the gun.

The aggression carries the seeds of justification within it. You show up looking for trouble on yet another of these right wing murder safaris like Rittenhouse, with his mother chaperoning, was taking part in. You’re looking for trouble and when you find it that’s your justification for taking the next step. That’s not how self-defense is supposed to work. But we can see in this case how the interplay of open carry and permissive self-defense statutes do just that.

 
Agree. 
Remind me.  WIth prejudice means they cant try him again correct?  What warrants a dismissal with prejudice vs without?  Im not really familiar with that stuff and how it works.


I believe with prejudice would be permanent.  The way I understand the decision will be if Binger made the argument on good faith. But the judge already said he does not believe Binger did.

 
I assume this is individual police officers, not the Kenosha police?     When did they say they appreciated him? 


Earlier in the night when they were pushing the line back. They stopped and said they appreciate yhem and gave a rittenhouse two water bottles. 

 
Yes. It is. Cops should never have allowed the riots to start let alone go on for multiple nights. 


This is the biggest issue. When the rioters have no fear things get out of hand fast. People get emotional watching their towns get burned down and destroyed by rioters and looters.  Sad story for all.

 
This is the biggest issue. When the rioters have no fear things get out of hand fast. People get emotional watching their towns get burned down and destroyed by rioters and looters.  Sad story for all.
How do we change protocol going forward on how situations like this should be handled better?  

 
Oh so show me who is being bigoted?  its not "unreasonable" to think he went there with intent to shoot people when HE ACTUALLY SAID HE WANTED TO.  Sure maybe he was joking but then he went there with his weopon and that makes it quite reasonable to assume that. 
No it doesn't.  In order for that line of thinking to work, he'd have actually had to do what you claim he wanted to.  There was every opportunity for him to simply go blasting through the rioters (a narrative, not-coincidentally supported and maintained by many in the media) but he didn't.  He tried to put out fires and offer assistance to people that needed it.  Precisely the opposite of what you are implying.  

Either way, this is all subterfuge and has no bearing on anything.  

 
How do you think it would play out differently?

And how would it play out if Rosenbaum had been black ?
good questions.  Judging from Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice and countless other things ive seen and been through, for one im not quite sure for example the police would give him water bottles for being there. 

How do you think it would be different? 

 
No it doesn't.  In order for that line of thinking to work, he'd have actually had to do what you claim he wanted to.  There was every opportunity for him to simply go blasting through the rioters (a narrative, not-coincidentally supported and maintained by many in the media) but he didn't.  He tried to put out fires and offer assistance to people that needed it.  Precisely the opposite of what you are implying.  

Either way, this is all subterfuge and has no bearing on anything.  
he didnt shoot people?  im not saying whether or not that was in self defense(the way the law is im in agreement it was).  The point is he said he wanted to, and he did use the weapon.  The context can be argued separately as it is happening in court. 

 
How do we change protocol going forward on how situations like this should be handled better?  


That is for the people who are paid to protect us and our communities to figure out.  They have not done a very good job so far.   

 
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good questions.  Judging from Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice and countless other things ive seen and been through, for one im not quite sure for example the police would give him water bottles for being there. 

How do you think it would be different? 
I’m not sure it be any different if Kyle was black

I think it would be a lot different if Rosenbaum had been black 

 
This article examines the issue I think pretty well. 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/thinking-about-rittenhouse-and-right-wing-murder-safaris

But the ins and outs of open carry nonsense aren’t what I want to discuss here. It’s rather the trajectory from that to Rittenhouse’s double murder to his expected acquittal. To most of us it is pretty obvious that it’s not good for society to have lots of people walking around in public settings carrying loaded firearms. Open carry activists and ‘gun rights’ supporters generally say that’s all wrong. The problem isn’t guns. The issue is when someone decides to commit a crime with one. If someone shoots someone that’s a crime and it should be punished.

This flies in the face of human nature, common sense and the fact that laws are intended not only to punish crimes but make them less likely to happen in the first place. But let’s take this argument at face value. No one is physically injured by these yahoos strutting around with their AR-15s. The moment that changes we have laws that cover that. Those laws carry severe penalties. So far so good.

But the Rittenhouse case shows how that is not really true. Permissive self-defense laws allow a Rittenhouse to have his aggression double as self-defense. You intentionally go into a chaotic situation. You travel across state lines, highly and visibly armed, allegedly to ‘protect’ people who haven’t asked for your protection. Then you feel threatened, which seems likely to happen in a chaotic place when you show up, chest puffed out with a military style weapon. Your perception of danger entitles you to murderous violence, which you arrived locked and loaded to pursue in the first place. In Rittenhouse’s case part of his perception of threat came when people freaked out after he’d shot and killed the first person. And of course only other people get hurt or killed because you’ve got the over-the-top firepower and they don’t.

If you operate within the chain of reasoning here you see the perverse connections. Self-defense laws exist because we as a society believe you are entitled to defend yourself with what would ordinarily be criminal violence if you face imminent, grave bodily harm to death. If someone breaks into your home and is threatening to kill you you have the right to kill them first. But if you created the dangerous or deadly situation the calculus changes. Or at least it should. Rittenhouse likely broke some laws being there with the gun in the first place. He was under 18 for instance. But the basic argument here is that Rittenhouse wasn’t doing anything wrong by just carrying around an AR-15. Wisconsin’s an open carry state. The inherent aggression and menace of carrying around high caliber weapons, which we’re told is only a problem for squeamish libs, becomes a path for the person carrying the fire arm to themselves feel threatened and decide they need to use the gun.

The aggression carries the seeds of justification within it. You show up looking for trouble on yet another of these right wing murder safaris like Rittenhouse, with his mother chaperoning, was taking part in. You’re looking for trouble and when you find it that’s your justification for taking the next step. That’s not how self-defense is supposed to work. But we can see in this case how the interplay of open carry and permissive self-defense statutes do just that.


Your language is a bit over the top,  but the core idea is a good one that should be addressed.   I would guess that is why many are OK with a gun in the house, but not OK with people walking around with them.   

 
There's plenty of video of Rosenbaum hours before he died yelling at anyone and everyone calling them the N word and getting into people's faces. The guy was looking for someone to attack him so his buddy could shoot them. They wanted to kill someone that night. 
This "Rosenbaum was a criminal mastermind looking to exploit self-defense laws himself" narrative is new and seems to fly in the face of the "Rosenbaum was a deranged lunatic" narrative.  Again, I haven't really followed things closely, but this seems to want to have it both ways.

 
Sorry GG.  Im a black male with a black son.  i wonder how this would play out if it was my son out there with a gun instead of Kyle 🤔




Direct Headline: Kyle Rittenhouse 'was an active shooter,' according to wounded paramedic

"I think the most important thing to remember is that Kyle Rittenhouse was an active shooter. He murdered two men, and he attempted to murder me," Grosskreutz said.

By David K. Li  Nov. 11, 2021, 8:05 AM PST

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-was-active-shooter-according-wounded-paramedic-rcna5249

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Running the hypothetical that you had a 17 year old African American son in the exact same scenario and situation as Rittenhouse, it would be nearly impossible under the standard Identity Politics Playbook to have the left leaning MSM label him as a "murderer" and an "active shooter"  In part because then it would then be impossible not to cover the criminal history of the three men shot in this incident.

The activist MSM could not be seen as hiding the deeper context of white men who were career criminals chasing down and trying to harm a young black male in the middle of a riot that was spurred on by anger over perceived social justice issues or lack of it.

If there was truly zero way to spin the systematic racism card, then your son would likely be labeled, just like Larry Elder was during the California Governor Recall election, as "another black face of white supremacy"

Did anyone here feel any kind of terror for the future your children will inherit when I just showed the MSM completely ignore the fact that Grosskreutz had a firearm and pointed it at Rittenhouse or that they ignored that Grosskreutz was a career criminal or decided to label Rittenhouse an "active shooter" when nothing comes close to that description?

Personally, my viewpoint is Rittenhouse is an idiot. But our Constitution doesn't allow our society to string up people just for being idiots. It's not illegal to be stupid ( If that were the case, many folks here in the PSF would be legitimate career criminals) And our legal system is supposed to apply the actual law, not some people's personal conception of "justice" because it fits their ideological political agenda.

 
I mean, he could have stayed home. Why did a teenager go out into the eye of the storm with a gun and ammo? Anyone here honestly naive enough to believe a kid went out to the riots with his rifle to "keep the peace"?

Things played out exactly as he'd hoped, but is now shedding tears in court claiming to be a misunderstood hero. 
You honestly think he went out there to shoot people?

 
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