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I've stayed at mandalay countless times and didn't think it possible to open the windows. Any idea how he got it open?No balcony - they don't have them. He shot out the window, then opened fire.
I've stayed at mandalay countless times and didn't think it possible to open the windows. Any idea how he got it open?No balcony - they don't have them. He shot out the window, then opened fire.
It's not an "agenda firebrand" it's a person outraged about the incident trying to figure out how to stop these, just like people who want to ban refugees and Middle East immigrants (which we constantly hear after other acts of terrorism.)So in your mind taking away the right to own guns would have prevented this? Damn I really hate gun grabbers when they try to use these incidents as agenda firebrands. Just disgusting.
Sounds like he shot it out.I've stayed at mandalay countless times and didn't think it possible to open the windows. Any idea how he got it open?
Shot it out I believeI've stayed at mandalay countless times and didn't think it possible to open the windows. Any idea how he got it open?
I don't know what to suggest, Zow. I certainly don't want to get into yet another gun control argument. They're frustrating, useless, and there's nothing anyone can say on whatever side of it that we all haven't heard a billion times already.Guy apparently had zero priors. People aren't going to stop assembling in large groups for events. And we can't snap our fingers and make all guns automatically disappear (with perhaps more than half of the population not wanting this even if it were an option).
Don't see any way this is plausibly prevented.
Seriously, keep the politics out this is a tragedy.Now really isn't the time for personal politics.
Refreshing viewpoint.I don’t like the snap judgement when things like this happen but I’m a NRA member and see no reason for these high power weapons .
Thank you. There is a politics forum for those types of discussions.Now really isn't the time for personal politics.
Don't be. This is not a mental illness problem.I'm embarrassed to have mental illness right now.
Seriously, keep the politics out this is a tragedy.
No.So in your mind taking away the right to own guns would have prevented this? Damn I really hate gun grabbers when they try to use these incidents as agenda firebrands. Just disgusting.
This is in FFA and for those that want to follow the facts of this tragic situation and not filter through political fighting, there is a sub forum for that where you could open a thread to start political battles.
It's all part of the story though. And part of the dicussion as to why this happened and how to prevent any future tragedies. Just as it is discussed in muslim terrorist attacks, or in planned parenthood attacks, or southern church attacks, or on and on. I see no reason why politics should stay out of this one.
Because this is the FFA. Please take political discussions to the politics forum. Thanks, GB.
I see no reason why politics should stay out of this one.
This is in FFA and for those that want to follow the facts of this tragic situation and not filter through political fighting, there is a sub forum for that where you could open a thread to start political battles.
He's been off the rails lately. Was posting political crap in game threads in the shark poolWhy would you post something like this ? Seriously take you agenda out of this
gun fire.I've stayed at mandalay countless times and didn't think it possible to open the windows. Any idea how he got it open?
Now I'm puzzled Icon. I regard you and Ditkaless Wonders as generally the most knowledgeable gun owners in this forum. Yet a short time earlier DW said it was relatively easy to make this conversion- he said all it takes is a file- and you're saying it's very difficult. Which is it?Modifying most post-1970s era Semi-Autos to full-auto is generally very difficult for the average person... just for future reference in this discussion.
Why don't we just wait to see what types of guns he had.Now I'm puzzled Icon. I regard you and Ditkaless Wonders as generally the most knowledgeable gun owners in this forum. Yet a short time earlier DW said it was relatively easy to make this conversion- he said all it takes is a file- and you're saying it's very difficult. Which is it?
The view from the helicopter they are showing right now shows no balcony. The guy broke the window out and just shot from the room--crazygun fire.
I have a picture in my mind of the scene from Die Hard when Bruce Willis smashes a window and fires down at the police car to get his attention-with an assault rifle, if I recall correctly.The view from the helicopter they are showing right now shows no balcony. The guy broke the window out and just shot from the room--crazy
Plz stop.I don't know James. That's why I wrote I was open to suggestions.
And maybe there should be metal detectors at hotels, shopping centers, where ever there is the potential of large numbers of people gathered. Maybe we need to go there.
Depends on a number of factors, the weapon, the trigger configuration, and how generally handy and mechanically inclined one is. I stand by not hard.Now I'm puzzled Icon. I regard you and Ditkaless Wonders as generally the most knowledgeable gun owners in this forum. Yet a short time earlier DW said it was relatively easy to make this conversion- he said all it takes is a file- and you're saying it's very difficult. Which is it?
Whitman killed 16 people, but his main weapon was a hunting rifle.Shooters in high perches can be devastating. Reminds me of Charles Whitman.
Do you think people are are okay with committing mass murder are concerned with gun laws?RSR Only.
Hunting rifle, shotgun and revolver. 6 shot max capacity.
Can protect your home and go hunting.
Can we just agree on that?
Yes I could see how that would work and go unnoticed.Someone on CNN brought up golf bags, or golf bag cases like you would take to the airport. No one would think twice about someone wheeling that through a hotel lobby. They probably see that multiple times a day.
Interesting... could you share the link?Seemingly starting to get confirmations that he had several weapons (10+) but a late soviet lmg was at least what started it. May have switched between several different flavors as they overheated and subsequently set off the fire alarm. Even a bump fired AK is going to start smoking.
When I get my 308 going good it can cover the area in smoke, some of that is due to the muzzle break, however which I don't think you could deal with a muzzle break on a full auto but tbh I haven't ever shot full auto so dunno.
Yep. Getting down on the ground just gives the shooter a bigger target.Shooters in high perches can be devastating. Reminds me of Charles Whitman.
It's weird. If its a train crash we are allowed to talk about solutions. No porblem. If it were a chemical spill we can talk about solutions. Absolutely.Plz stop.
The file takes a gunsmith level of knowledge to be able to do. Dw is right though, takes less than 15 minutes to complete if you know what you are doing(farther is a gun smith)Now I'm puzzled Icon. I regard you and Ditkaless Wonders as generally the most knowledgeable gun owners in this forum. Yet a short time earlier DW said it was relatively easy to make this conversion- he said all it takes is a file- and you're saying it's very difficult. Which is it?
And I want even suggesting any kind of gun restriction. My comments were about extra metal detectors, and in the form of a question rather than an assertion.It's weird. If its a train crash we are allowed to talk about solutions. No porblem. If it were a chemical spill we can talk about solutions. Absolutely.
But we can't talk about solutions to gun violence because apparently it hurts peoples fee fees and its just beyond the pale. Off to the fainting couches.