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Michael Robinson RB-SF (2 TDs this week) - What's your call? (1 Viewer)
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mlball77
Footballguy
From the talk of the coaching staff in preseason, and my view of the situation... Robinson is likely the GL back from here on out. I think there is a good chance that Gore could miss a couple few games this year due to injury, and at that point, I think Robinson is a decent FF start. But really, I think his role this year is that of the GL back.
brakeyawself
Footballguy
I have him on two dynasty teams if that means anything. Quite possibly the 5-10 best back in this years draft class.... who knows. He's got value.
Back to Frank Gore next week. See you then. But he is on my #### list with Todd Heap.
CrazyJohnK
Footballguy
just noticed u can start robinson at WR in yahoo leagues. this could be interesting if he ends up being the GL back
mlball77
Footballguy
Yeah, he seemed to struggle there. But he ran with power and decisiveness in his two goal line carries... pretty impressive, imo. And, he has decent receiving skills... which helps as well.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Not to mention the fumble last week and the one in the opener....Gore is the starter. He was looking strong catching passes and running hard until his fumble and the td by philly. Of course i have gore and was playing vs philly d!
shadyridr
Footballguy
Is that really saying much?Overreacting
zamboni
Footballguy
Seriously - short memories around here.Detractors need to remember how good he looked the last few weeks - maybe Gore's goal line role is lessened a bit, but I doubt he even comes close to losing his job.Look at Foster - he was way outplayed by DWilliams last week, yet he still carried the load today.
Big Score
Footballguy
BaBastage
Footballguy
Frankly ( 
) I'm not too worried about Gore losing the starting job (save for injury), but I am a big concerned about his red zone fumbles.
Gore has shown toughness at the goal line too. So I don't think he automatically loses the touches. But another fumble or two may be all it takes. imho, of course.
) I'm not too worried about Gore losing the starting job (save for injury), but I am a big concerned about his red zone fumbles.Gore has shown toughness at the goal line too. So I don't think he automatically loses the touches. But another fumble or two may be all it takes. imho, of course.
Gore's 3rd lost fumble in 3 games, 2 lost at the goalline. Gore also stuffed multiple times before the fumble. We all know Norv doesn't like using a goal-line specialist, but when he had a guy like Zack Crockett, he did use him from the 1. I could see Robinson taking over a role like that until Gore is more trusted.
I think the more important question is how badly is Gore hurt? My guess at the time was that he was suffering from hurt PRIDE more than anything else, but who know?
I think the more important question is how badly is Gore hurt? My guess at the time was that he was suffering from hurt PRIDE more than anything else, but who know?
Lambert
Footballguy
Good point. Any news on just how injured Gore might be?
shadyridr
Footballguy
I cant imagine him missing much time with a strained abdominal muscle but what do I know.
Sinrman
Footballguy
The good thing for Gore is that he's on a crap team, and they are more likely to forgive fumbles than say Denver or someone like that. Three fumbles in three weeks does not look promising. Fantasy-wise, it doesn't kill you, and he's put up good numbers. But if the fumbling problems continue, we might actually see Robinson's role increase from just a goaline guy...
first of all, abdominal strains can be tough injuries to recover from because of the fact that you use those muscles in almost every activity you do...it's really tough to rest them and let them heal. That being said, we don't yet know how bad the injury is.
as for Gore losing goal line touches, I think it's much to early to assume that. Gore has been good in short yardage situations and today was mainly due to the injury. At this point it's a wait and see.
as for Gore losing goal line touches, I think it's much to early to assume that. Gore has been good in short yardage situations and today was mainly due to the injury. At this point it's a wait and see.
shadyridr
Footballguy
He got stuffed on the goalline 3 straight plays, the 3rd one he got hurt on.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
He's lost fumbles twice this year while carrying inside the opponent's 5 yard line. Robinson bowled people over and held on to the ball. Robinson will have value this year. You have to pick him up if you are in a yahoo! league for his WR eligibility.
shadyridr
Footballguy
What does that have to do with my post?
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
I was saying NOT ONLY did he get stuffed three consecutive times, he has also had a fumbling problem around the goal line.I went on to add that I basically think Robinson is a better back at the goal line right now and will have value in fantasy leagues.shadyridr said:
FFdork
Footballguy
IMO, Gore is a great short-yardage guy too--great balance, keeps his legs moving. The stuffs at the goal were great push by Philly, not Gore's fault. The fumble was a play where basically any player would fumble--helmet right on ball. However, 3 fumbles in 3 games w/ 2 at the goalline may have handed the GL job to Robinson, at least temporarily.
Robinson looks very capable should Gore miss time. Whether he gets the GL work or not, he probably won himself extra plays in games, which may end the 'all Gore all the time' situation it had been.
Robinson looks very capable should Gore miss time. Whether he gets the GL work or not, he probably won himself extra plays in games, which may end the 'all Gore all the time' situation it had been.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
FYI, Nolan is worried about Gore's fumbleitis at the goal line now:
Coach Mike Nolan said Frank Gore will be questionable for Week 4.
He strained his abdomen. Gore could lose some short-yardage carries to Michael Robinson if he returns. "It concerns me," Nolan said. "The second two happened the same way. He hits the pile and gets the ball knocked out."
rotoworld.
Coach Mike Nolan said Frank Gore will be questionable for Week 4.
He strained his abdomen. Gore could lose some short-yardage carries to Michael Robinson if he returns. "It concerns me," Nolan said. "The second two happened the same way. He hits the pile and gets the ball knocked out."
rotoworld.
phrozen
Footballguy
Lambert
Footballguy
If Gore is questionable, and if Robinson ends up getting the start next week and does well (admittedly a lot of "IF"s), he could take over and not look back.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's really short sighted if you believe that. Gore posted almost 100 yds rush and rec his 1st week. he offers possibilities out of the backfield MRob will not be able to do...at best MR is a short yardage guy that will spell Gore when he needs some air but if Gore can play he has far more upside right now. Great hands. He had 6 ctaches I think in the 1st half today...in PPR leagues he still had a decent day today. The game was a blowout for most of it so I would not jump to conclusions. Should you pick up MRob on the WW? of course, but he is not capable of putting up the same numbers as Gore...and Gore has looked good around the goal line...have you watched any of the SF games? I have and Gore is part of a 3 star line up with SMith and Bryant...you can see them developing those guys as the core of their offense.Smith had another 260+ and a TD today...more good stuff.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Really? How do you know this?
phrozen
Footballguy
I own MRob in my dynasty league. As much as I would love for him to get into a RBBC situation with Gore, I do not see it happening. If Gore goes down, then MRob would do well in Gore's place. But as MoP has alluded to already, people that are assuming that a RBBC or MRob to take the job outright is ludicrous. MRob may become the goal line back and may vulture TDs every now and then but I do not think he will have a 10+ carry role on SF this year.MRob has a lot of potential and is quickly developing. I watched the You Tube videos of him and he is an exciting player. It will be interesting to see what happens with him in the next few years. If you own Gore or are in a dynasty league and have the space, I would recommend picking him up. But you have to have a realistic goal. To think that a rookie RB who played QB in college will take the job away from one of the most productive backs of the year so far is a stretch.
FFdork
Footballguy
Let's not get overexcited. Gore has played very well. Robinson would have to play even better and improve as a pass blocker to take Gore's job. Yes, there's always a possibility this could happen, but be realistic. It's one game, mostly in garbage time.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
MoP - Robinson is a good receiver out of the backfield. He offers as many "possibilities" as Gore and is probably just as talented. I know this from watching the Niners in the pre-season and during the season as well.
That said, Gore has established himself in SF and is likely going to remain the starter as long as he is healthy.
But we're talking Frank Gore here. How much of a lock is he to remain healthy?
That said, Gore has established himself in SF and is likely going to remain the starter as long as he is healthy.
But we're talking Frank Gore here. How much of a lock is he to remain healthy?
Lambert
Footballguy
JohnnyU ... I agree. While I respect MoP's opinions (and agree with much of his analysis on various issues), I don't think we can really make such a definitive statement at this point what Robinson is or isn't capable of. We're not talking about some journeyman RB like an Antowain Smith with an established record. Am I saying that Robinson is a lock to be the next LaDainian? Of course not -- that would be ridiculous. I'm saying he's an unproven commodity but one that has shown definite potential ... and it's way too early for me to put a ceiling on him ... especially a Frank Gore-level ceiling since Gore hasn't exactly established himself as the next LaDainian either.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Robinson = flavor of the day 
corpcow
Footballguy
I have an empty roster spot now that I can drop Miami defense (had SD on the bye and normally wouldn't carry 2 DEF but they've been dominant).
So I'm leaning towards Michael Robinson, at least until we see how Gore turns out with the injury. The flexibility at WR/RB helps in a pinch too especially if he WERE to become the starter.
I just have to hope he's still on the wire in 2 hours when my player unlocks
(If he's gone, I'll probably gamble on Gado or Benson who were both dropped)
So I'm leaning towards Michael Robinson, at least until we see how Gore turns out with the injury. The flexibility at WR/RB helps in a pinch too especially if he WERE to become the starter.
I just have to hope he's still on the wire in 2 hours when my player unlocks
(If he's gone, I'll probably gamble on Gado or Benson who were both dropped)
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
Umm, OK?I have an empty roster spot now that I can drop Miami defense (had SD on the bye and normally wouldn't carry 2 DEF but they've been dominant).So I'm leaning towards Michael Robinson, at least until we see how Gore turns out with the injury. The flexibility at WR/RB helps in a pinch too especially if he WERE to become the starter.I just have to hope he's still on the wire in 2 hours when my player unlocks
He might be as talented a runner (although I'm not sure I'd agree with that), but he'd get Alex Smith killed playing full time. Best case scenario for MRob owners: Gore gets hurt, and Robinson and hicks split time, with Robinson getting a lot of goal line work.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
How about this: Gore gets hurt (not wishing it to happen just hypothesizing), M-Rob is the main back and Hicks is the third down back.MRob can improve his pass blocking skills, to be sure, but he really is extremely gifted as a runner. Nolan compared him to Marcus Allen in the preseason and I'm not sure I disagree.
