Middle School Pizza Party -- WWYD (1 Viewer)

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

so if I pay $150 for 82 pizza and then give then a $50 tip that $200 is not more than $150? And I thought I was bad at math

of course, this doesn't totally track since marcos wife was doing this for free and shouldn't have to shell out for a tip but in theory you shouldn't HAVE to tip someone who is already getting paid to do thier job

 

[Zegras11]

I tip, ask PTA for money. And don't freak if they say no.

 

[the moops]

Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

I agree with the sentiment but that PA isn't reimbursing your $50. No way I am doing that.

Why isn't the PA reimbursing? They just spent over a grand on pizzas, they can throw another 50 bucks in

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I would assume that an order of 82 pizzas included a service charge already.

For what? They should give you a discount if anything

For making 82 pizzas.

Sorry didn’t realize these were free pizzas

It's pretty easy to tell who has worked in the service industry and who hasn't. Hint: the people who actually made the 82 pizzas are getting paid the same as if they made 1.

So? I was in the pizza business. The kids making the pizzas are usually bored anyway. Gave them something to do other than fold boxes We could make 2 pizzas per person per minute. So were talking like 15 minutes of work for 3 people. Its nothing compared to a snow night where half the drivers don't show up and you get 3-5x the number of orders for the entire night. Now that was miserable.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Alot of times when you order something online you are ALREADY given the option to tip. They didn't. Either they don't have the funds or they didn't want to. It's not (or should not) be on a volunteer to do that.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I was in almost this exact situation last year only it was for my kids volleyball club and only about 20 pizzas. I don’t normally tip carryout but a guy helped me load them into my car so I slipped him a fiver. If there’s no delivery or waitstaff, I’m usually not tipping although the counter people do their damn best to make that awkward these days.

 

[gianmarco]

I don't think people realize the work it takes to get 80 pizzas for a specific time.

If I'm picking up 5 or 6 pizzas for a sleepover, I'm not worried about a tip.

But a huge order like this? Getting all those pizzas and boxes done is a lot more work than usual. It was a $650+ order. I'm really surprised some of you don't see the difference between that and other regular orders.

 

[belljr]

Damn 82 plain pizzas here be like 1300

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

82 medium 3 topping pizza cost $988.92 from papa johns here

 

[Hoh]

Not tipping for carry out pizza. No way.

 

[Osaurus]

Has anyone asked @Ministry of Pain since this is pizza math?

 

[Ilov80s]

I didn't read any of this but a big tip is an absolute must on an order like.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think people realize the work it takes to get 80 pizzas for a specific time.

If I'm picking up 5 or 6 pizzas for a sleepover, I'm not worried about a tip.

But a huge order like this? Getting all those pizzas and boxes done is a lot more work than usual. It was a $650+ order. I'm really surprised some of you don't see the difference between that and other regular orders.

Yeah those workers busted their asses to make those pizzas and made 0 extra dollars.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Whatever I would do it would NOT involve eating any slices of this pizza.

This was my immediate reaction as well. No ****ing way I eat any of that food.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Not tipping for carry out pizza. No way.

The key to the OP is that it was pre-paid, so I am guessing it was taken care of at the time of ordering and the people making the pizzas know there was no tip. That food was messed with, I promise.

Yeah, if I am picking up 2-3 pizzas on a carry out I might not tip. If I am pre-paying for 80+ pizzas, I for sure am tipping or doing something for them.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I was in almost this exact situation last year only it was for my kids volleyball club and only about 20 pizzas. I don’t normally tip carryout but a guy helped me load them into my car so I slipped him a fiver. If there’s no delivery or waitstaff, I’m usually not tipping although the counter people do their damn best to make that awkward these days.

This

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I would sleep with the wife that picked up the pizza.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

82 pizzas?
-They were happy to make that order
How did they ever keep them hot?

82 pizzas, I would assume a group rate, couldn't be more than $10-$12 per pie?
No tipping required because they did not deliver

-Yes I tip on pickup pizza orders but it's 1 pie and I just toss a couple singles into whatever the tip jar is set up
I tip $10 on delivery pies and never have a single problem with my pizza orders from this mom n pop, every driver knows me at this point...$5-$7 would cover it but I pre-tip on the card
The drivers are always happy when I answer the door

 

[mr. furley]

This is an absolutely appropriate tipping situation. The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas. The owner is stoked as is, but everyone else has been working their *** off for the past 2+ hours to make this happen. Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

this

those 82 pizzas made it so they either fell behind, or couldn't fulfill, other orders.

if i recall anything about working at a place the did large-scale orders like this, someone probably called in the order the night before which gives the restaurant little/no time to prep for the demand.

throw these kids a tip

Were they forced at gunpoint to make these pizzas?

yes

i heard it from my aunt's friend's stylist who wrote about it on facebook

 

[BrutalPenguin]

Do pizza places have multiple ovens? Because I'd imagine 3/4 of those would be cold before pick up.

 

[the moops]

We could make 2 pizzas per person per minute.

Those have gotta be some lousy *** pies

 

[-OZ-]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

 

[the moops]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

 

[-OZ-]

you should stick to eating at home or going to McDonalds

Sure. Or pizza.
My son used to work at dominos. If he was in the store he got over minimum wage. When he delivered he’d get less but also tips and mileage.

 

[-OZ-]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

This is an absolutely appropriate tipping situation. The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas. The owner is stoked as is, but everyone else has been working their *** off for the past 2+ hours to make this happen. Throw them 50 bucks and go get the damn money from the parent association.

This would so be happening if it were me. They'd be getting an interesting public lecture, too.

 

[Zow]

Gianmarco Wife - Speaking to Organizers: "Say, when we arrived, the pizza order was paid in full. Only there was no tip left behind. Is this accurate with your records or understanding?"
Organizers: "........................"

Yep.

At 82 pizzas I'm sorry, but I wouldn't cover it if I was just the lacky picking it up. I would say something to the server to confirm no tip or service charge, express sympathy, then tell them I'l do my best to address. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be flipping them more than a 20 and a tip on 82 freaking pizzas should be more than that.

I'd then say something to the organizers as described in a very naive like GM described to put the proverbial ball in their court. If no tip is given, I probably wouldn't say anything but I wouldn't be inclined to volunteer again.

 

[Zow]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

 

[Zow]

I was in almost this exact situation last year only it was for my kids volleyball club and only about 20 pizzas. I don’t normally tip carryout but a guy helped me load them into my car so I slipped him a fiver. If there’s no delivery or waitstaff, I’m usually not tipping although the counter people do their damn best to make that awkward these days.

Agree with this. I pick up a lot and will usually throw the person helping me a couple of bucks or whatever for their brief time. I have been told that such is usually a server or host being taken away from other opportunities to help me so while I don't throw the normal 15-20 percent as if I sat down and were served, I still try to compensate them something.

82 pizzas though is distinguishable for me from the "norm." I would feel so dirty not tipping. Either somebody extra had to come in or the place may have turned down other business. That's just such an abnormal undertaking.

 

[Zow]

We could make 2 pizzas per person per minute.

Those have gotta be some lousy *** pies

A pizza made in a minute?

Must be the same type of cooking appliance used to make the magic grits in My Cousin Vinnie.

 

[ChiefD]

sounds like you're not tipping anyone, so why do you care?

Maybe read the tread again and get back to me on that

Don’t Thread On Him.

 

[WDIK2]

--Please count the pizzas before leaving to make sure we have the correct number and toppings.

Is everyone glossing over this? Checking for the correct number of toppings on 82 pizzas? F that. How long would that take?

How many kids are at this pizza party? (Asks the guy who had 51 people in his HS graduating class.)

 

[Dan Lambskin]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Why? Whats the arbitrary number where you tip vs don’t?

do you tip your grocery cashier when you have a $500 full cart order vs a $20 for eggs milk and bread?

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I think I might have refused to pick them up and make the organizers get them delivered. Tip the store, or me, or pay the driver, you cheap substandard troglodytes.

(Thanks to Mr R for the assist.)

 

[-OZ-]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

 

[eoMMan]

Wow, that’s a lot of pizza!

 

[encaitar]

We could make 2 pizzas per person per minute.

Those have gotta be some lousy *** pies

A pizza made in a minute?

Must be the same type of cooking appliance used to make the magic grits in My Cousin Vinnie.

What? All pizza making kids don't work like this?

 

[gianmarco]

What was the response of the den moms who placed the order? Was the lack of a tip on purpose or? What did they say about it?

So, I'll add a few thoughts and updates.

1. I really thought the biggest discussion would be about whether or not to ask the parent organization for getting money back for a tip being left. I had no idea the discussion would be more about whether or not tipping on such an order should happen. This place never ceases to amaze.
2. I'm overall not a fan of the tipping culture, but I understand it is what it is and there are certain expectations. I'm a reasonable tipper. 20% when going out to eat, more for good/personable service. I don't tip when picking up food myself or regular counter service. I also tip good service at my home when there's any significant work done.
3. That said, this is not your normal service. Sure, the owner of the Papa John's is making money on the order, but the kids working there have to work really hard to put this kind of order together. They should absolutely get extra for that. That goes for any large catering order from any restaurant.

So, in this situation, there's about 300 kids in the grade, it was an average of 2 slices per kid. The pizzas were $7.99/each, hence the bill coming to just over $650. No tax was charged (guessing the school is exempt) and there was no service fee.

My wife showed up first. When she got the receipt, she confirmed with the manager nothing extra was given. She didn't have any cash on her, so she asked if they could run a tip only on her credit card as there was no way she wasn't going to leave them something. As she asked, she then noticed someone holding the door open as she was about to start loading the pizzas and was hoping he was a customer as she was just going to pay for his pizza and add the tip on that. He was just an employee at the store next door and was just being nice, so that didn't work.

Then the other parent showed up at that moment and learned of the situation. He had cash and offered to leave it. He gave a $100 with my wife asking for his Venmo to split. He refused.

Of note, there were only 2 workers in the store. They were the ones that put together the whole order.

When they got to the school, my wife talked to the parent organizer and explained what happened. She told the other parent how to submit a reimbursement to get it back (even though it wasn't guaranteed), but he still refused and said not to worry about it.

In the end, we would have been fine leaving that same tip. I would have submitted the reimbursement form if we did, though.

I also think it's incredibly poor form for them to place that kind of order and not tip and, as such, doubt we will do any other kind of volunteering for this group.

 

[Zow]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

 

[Dan Lambskin]

This thread is a good reminder at how entitled the service industry is

 

[the moops]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

Properly staff? You think Papa John's has like 4 or 5 extra workers just itching to go help for the 1 hour this takes?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

Properly staff? You think Papa John's has like 4 or 5 extra workers just itching to go help for the 1 hour this takes?

Sounds like a papa John’s problem

 

[the moops]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

Properly staff? You think Papa John's has like 4 or 5 extra workers just itching to go help for the 1 hour this takes?

Sounds like a papa John’s problem

Sounds like the 100 or so parents involved in this order could each throw 50 cents at the pizza making crew and they would all really appreciate it

 

[Dan Lambskin]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

Properly staff? You think Papa John's has like 4 or 5 extra workers just itching to go help for the 1 hour this takes?

Also we have people saying, hey, 1-2 pies no need to tip

What’s the difference between 1 person ordering 80 pies and 40 people ordering 2 pies in the same time frame?

For simple math let’s say that takes them an hour to make that order. Why are they entitled to extra money if it’s 1 person getting those 80 pies vs 40 people picking them up?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Of note, there were only 2 workers in the store. They were the ones that put together the whole order.

not calling you a liar but that seems dubious to me. Its very possible the manager had called in other help and then left? IDK, just seems odd that there were only 2 workers.

 

[Rustoleum]

I’m not hungry anymore. Can I just have a water?

 

[El Floppo]

Burn it all to the ground.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

The place just busted out 82 ****ing pizzas

What's the difference in them getting 82 orders for pizza and filling 1 order for 82 pizzas? They are getting paid their hourly wage so I don't quite understand why it coming from one place means you have to pay them more? Tipping is nice, yes but one shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

You're not paying them more. If you order one pizza you tip on one pizza. If you order 82 pizzas you tip on 82 pizzas. It's not that difficult of a concept.

If you ordered 82 gallons blue of paint at Home Depot how much are you tipping the paint associate?

If you left out 82 bags of yard waste how much are you tipping the trash collector?

If your child’s teacher had to correct 82 errors on your child’s exam how much are you tipping them?

For the sake of argument let’s assume they’re making the same hourly wage as the pizza workers. Why am i tipping the pizza workers and not the other 3?

 

[Zow]

still tip good especially done in. can’t tell you the last time l left under 20% even with bad service and I’m probably closer to 25% on average

I’ll happily tip when being served at a table and I’ll even give something if we order take out from a traditional restaurant. But not if I’m picking up pizza.

Can people not understand that this is different than just picking up a couple pizzas for your family?

Of course we do. But that doesn’t change that the business makes money on each pizza and if picking up from pizza or fast food you don’t need to tip.

But the server in charge of organizing and compiling the order probably doesn't.

I'm not saying go a full 20%, but 82 pizzas is an abnormal order and you gotta tip there IMO. And I'm admittedly not some loose, super generous tipper myself.

We can just disagree here. Everyone who worked in the store preparing or taking orders got paid over minimum wage. Which isn’t to say they don’t “deserve” a tip but there’s no obligation to do so.

Ordinarily I agree with you on takeout but the 82 pizzas is an anomaly that I presume causes additional work so therefore there should be additional compensation to the workers.

again assuming this was pre-ordered, they should have been able to properly staff for it. I’m just baffled that because someone orders more of something, they should pay an extra fee rather than get a discount

I hear you and don't entirely disagree. But, the food service world we live in relies on and contemplates tips for the food prices and servers' incomes. I'd much more prefer the European method where it's just baked into the price so we don't have to have these awkward situations. I actually don't mind when a restaurant has an auto-gratuity so I don't have to think about it. And, yeah, ideally the owner has some workers he or she may pay OT to for an advanced massive order like this and everybody is fairly compensated.

But, again, we don't live in this world. In the tipping culture world we live in, I find it unconscionable to not tip on a singular 82-pizza order.