Chase Stuart
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Bills name Jauron HC today.
My initial thoughts as well. Was Rich Kotite not available?
Jauron Arrives In BuffaloNo link yet...I'd imagine within the next 15-30 minutes we'll find one somewhere.
Aaron, with Levy/Jauron replacing Donahoe/Mularkey, does this in your opinion reduce Losman's chances of being the "QB of the future" since the new guys weren't responsible for the pick trade and draft? Does Holcomb have a legit chance of starting next year? And what of Moulds' status now - have things changed? Or, does all of this still depend on who is brought in as OC?this was apparently announced on local news in Buffalo, but hasn't been made official yet
I lived in Chicago through the Jauron era and his biggest drawback was that he wasn't willing to step in when it was clear John Shoop could not run an effective NFL offense. I'm very glad they didn't go with Capers, but would have preferred to see a Sherman/Bates combo brought in.
The fans are not going to be happy about this hire at all.
I hope Marv knows what he's doing here, and I hope they can find a good offensive coordinator.
Marv Levy only had one winning season in KC.With Bellichick being the notable exception, how many HCs have come with as bad a track record as Jauron and found success with a different team?
Wannstedt is the best example I can think of.
I'm not sure of anything anymore regarding this franchise. Personally, I think its too early to give up on Losman as I thought he showed some good progress up until the game against New England. There are reports that he didn't have a lot of support from his fellow players though so he's got a ways to go still in terms of becoming a guy that the team can believe in.I think the franchise has committed enough in him already (1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks plus dumping Bledsoe, etc.) that he will get a good chance to start again this year. But, I suppose if he struggles again, the team may not stick with him too much longer since its a whole new power structure in place. I could definitely see Levy and Jauron having a preference towards working with more veteran players so Holcomb may have an edge there.Aaron, with Levy/Jauron replacing Donahoe/Mularkey, does this in your opinion reduce Losman's chances of being the "QB of the future" since the new guys weren't responsible for the pick trade and draft? Does Holcomb have a legit chance of starting next year? And what of Moulds' status now - have things changed? Or, does all of this still depend on who is brought in as OC?this was apparently announced on local news in Buffalo, but hasn't been made official yet
I lived in Chicago through the Jauron era and his biggest drawback was that he wasn't willing to step in when it was clear John Shoop could not run an effective NFL offense. I'm very glad they didn't go with Capers, but would have preferred to see a Sherman/Bates combo brought in.
The fans are not going to be happy about this hire at all.
I hope Marv knows what he's doing here, and I hope they can find a good offensive coordinator.
He won a COY award. What are we using to define a bad track record?With Bellichick being the notable exception, how many HCs have come with as bad a track record as Jauron and found success with a different team?
Wannstedt is the best example I can think of.
One winning season out of 5+ maybeHe won a COY award. What are we using to define a bad track record?With Bellichick being the notable exception, how many HCs have come with as bad a track record as Jauron and found success with a different team?
Wannstedt is the best example I can think of.
He's 36-49 lifetime, and got that one big fluke winning season with Chicago. It's hard to have a much worse track record.He won a COY award. What are we using to define a bad track record?With Bellichick being the notable exception, how many HCs have come with as bad a track record as Jauron and found success with a different team?
Wannstedt is the best example I can think of.
He had several bad years, but it's hard to deny that he had one excellent year. It's not like the Bears were loaded with talent when he was there.He's 36-49 lifetime, and got that one big fluke winning season with Chicago. It's hard to have a much worse track record.He won a COY award. What are we using to define a bad track record?With Bellichick being the notable exception, how many HCs have come with as bad a track record as Jauron and found success with a different team?
Wannstedt is the best example I can think of.
I think we can all agree there was much better available.He had several bad years, but it's hard to deny that he had one excellent year. It's not like the Bears were loaded with talent when he was there.He's 36-49 lifetime, and got that one big fluke winning season with Chicago. It's hard to have a much worse track record.
Oh, I don't know, the fact that he's been fired twice now? The fact that his offensive teams are, well, offensive? Folks have already mentioned his career record, including the fluke 13-3 season...he's the worst type of a retread.Did Buffalo adhear to the rules and actually interview a minority coaching candidate? The NFL should be ashamed that it continues this charade...He won a COY award. What are we using to define a bad track record?With Bellichick being the notable exception, how many HCs have come with as bad a track record as Jauron and found success with a different team?
Wannstedt is the best example I can think of.
I believe they interviewed James Lofton.Did Buffalo adhear to the rules and actually interview a minority coaching candidate? The NFL should be ashamed that it continues this charade...
yes, 2 minority candidates were interviewedDid Buffalo adhear to the rules and actually interview a minority coaching candidate? The NFL should be ashamed that it continues this charade...
Keep on dude.I'll tell the Bills fan this:
If the choice came down to Capers, Sherman, or Jauron, your team chose the right one out of the three. I have to think there was somebody better out there, but this isn't the biggest disaster I could have imagined.
+--------------+----------+| Reg. Season | Playoffs |Why was Jauron's 13-3 season a fluke? And when does a coach get credit for a team outperforming expectations?
An abberation from the norm is considered a fluke?Interesting definition there. Regardless, even if you consider the Bears 2001 season as a fluke, that doesn't mean Jauron's work was a fluke.+--------------+----------+| Reg. Season | Playoffs |Why was Jauron's 13-3 season a fluke? And when does a coach get credit for a team outperforming expectations?
+----------+--------------+----------+
| Year TM | W L T | W L |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| 1999 chi | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 2000 chi | 5 11 0 | 0 0 |
| 2001 chi | 13 3 0 | 0 1 |
| 2002 chi | 4 12 0 | 0 0 |
| 2003 chi | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |
| 2005 det | 1 4 0 | 0 0 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 36 49 0 | 0 1 |
An abberation from the norm is considered a fluke, therfore, a season of 13-3 is a fluke season. Even with that ONE season of 10 games over .500, you can see his career is 13 games UNDER .500. And that is a bad record...
fluke3 Audio pronunciation of "fluke" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (flk)n.An abberation from the norm is considered a fluke?Interesting definition there. Regardless, even if you consider the Bears 2001 season as a fluke, that doesn't mean Jauron's work was a fluke.+--------------+----------+| Reg. Season | Playoffs |Why was Jauron's 13-3 season a fluke? And when does a coach get credit for a team outperforming expectations?
+----------+--------------+----------+
| Year TM | W L T | W L |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| 1999 chi | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 2000 chi | 5 11 0 | 0 0 |
| 2001 chi | 13 3 0 | 0 1 |
| 2002 chi | 4 12 0 | 0 0 |
| 2003 chi | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |
| 2005 det | 1 4 0 | 0 0 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 36 49 0 | 0 1 |
An abberation from the norm is considered a fluke, therfore, a season of 13-3 is a fluke season. Even with that ONE season of 10 games over .500, you can see his career is 13 games UNDER .500. And that is a bad record...
:(Dare I say it won't be long before we see a Jauron/Shoop reunion?
I hope we see Jauron fall on his face like everyone predicts. I'm just trying to see the other side.fluke3 Audio pronunciation of "fluke" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (flk)n.An abberation from the norm is considered a fluke?Interesting definition there. Regardless, even if you consider the Bears 2001 season as a fluke, that doesn't mean Jauron's work was a fluke.+--------------+----------+| Reg. Season | Playoffs |Why was Jauron's 13-3 season a fluke? And when does a coach get credit for a team outperforming expectations?
+----------+--------------+----------+
| Year TM | W L T | W L |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| 1999 chi | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 2000 chi | 5 11 0 | 0 0 |
| 2001 chi | 13 3 0 | 0 1 |
| 2002 chi | 4 12 0 | 0 0 |
| 2003 chi | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |
| 2005 det | 1 4 0 | 0 0 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 36 49 0 | 0 1 |
An abberation from the norm is considered a fluke, therfore, a season of 13-3 is a fluke season. Even with that ONE season of 10 games over .500, you can see his career is 13 games UNDER .500. And that is a bad record...
1. A stroke of good luck.
2. A chance occurrence; an accident.
3. Games. An accidentally good or successful stroke in billiards or pool.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fluke
I believe that either one of the first 2 definitions would suffice as well...
I hope that you're happy about the hiring, it seems that you are. But you're not getting Bill Belichick here...this is a guy who's proven as stubborn in his 6th season as he was in his 1st. I don't see the big learning curve there, but I could be wrong...
It's nice to see that somebody else remembers what was going on in Chicago back in those days. Jauron almost certainly wasn't the best man for this job, but he was better than the other names the Bills FO had thrown about.Jauron isnt as bad as hes being made out to be. The players loved him and played hard for him every week. His downfall was because of 2 things, one of which was his fault, the other not so much.
1 His loyalty (to a fault) to John Shoop. He had a couple of offseasons to make a change at the OC position but wouldnt, even when there was supposed pressure from management to do so. His fault, no doubt
2 Angelo didnt want him...he wanted to hire his own guy. He basically had to give him the extension after the coach of the year season. The offseasons since Jauron was fired have been so different, in terms of improving the team than when he was here. Jauron and Shoop wanted Plummer, Angelo got them Kordell. He never did a thing to fix a disgusting o-line. He let Colvin go. He let Tony Parrish go. He traded big Ted, the anchor of the d-line for a day 2 pick.
Jauron is a good guy and a good football coach. I hope he does good in Buffalo
Marv is clueless IMO, the Bills are a complete trainwreck.It's been reported that Ralph wanted Mike Sherman, and Marv wanted his homer pick in Jauron. Sherman, while not sexy, certainly was the far better pick IMO for several reasons, #1 being his Pro Personal experience as former GM of the Pack (help Marv is going to sorely need), 2 because he was a pretty decent HC in GB, and 3, because he actually wanted to draft JP Losman with the Packers, and the Bills moved up ahead of them to get him. If anyone could have made something of JP, it would have been Sherman.this was apparently announced on local news in Buffalo, but hasn't been made official yet
I lived in Chicago through the Jauron era and his biggest drawback was that he wasn't willing to step in when it was clear John Shoop could not run an effective NFL offense. I'm very glad they didn't go with Capers, but would have preferred to see a Sherman/Bates combo brought in.
The fans are not going to be happy about this hire at all.
I hope Marv knows what he's doing here, and I hope they can find a good offensive coordinator.
I suggest you outright become a former fan. That's what I've done. Loyalty to your home town be damned. The organization sucks.I'm now officially embarassed to be a fan of this team. What a freaking joke this organization has become.
Any chance of Bill Polian becoming available?