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Did Beyonce clean up last night because folks feel like she was cheated in the past? Maybe.
I believe she’s won more Grammys than anyone, ever? Is that right?

Yes, but never for Album of the Year. And that's the Heisman of this.
Gotcha
Well, it’s just one man’s opinion but I listen to at least some country music 5-6 days a week most weeks. I like it from the days of Conway Twitty and Charley Pride. Alabama. Garth is one of the best. I saw Travis Tritt live last summer.
I like some of the newer stuff too, I like Musgraves. Stapleton is very good imo. Saw him last year.

Her album debuted high because people wanted to check it out. Then it fell like a stone because most people think it wasn’t very good 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Beyoncé’s album Cowboy Carterfell to #50 in the albums charts in just 13 weeks, and out of the Billboard 200 completely after 28 weeks—staggering numbers for Billboard‘s recently-named pop star of the century“

The others were robbed, imo
 
I listen to country too; grew up on it. It's pretty telling to me that Cowboy Carter had appearances from Country royalty like Willie Nelson, Linda Martell and Dolly Parton, just to name a few.

Are we judging an album's success off sales numbers in an era when nobody buys albums anymore?

It was the most streamed album in a single day on both Spotify and Amazon and reached 1 BILLION streams on Spotify.

I won't argue against there being a better country album - I would have gone with Kacy Musgraves - but I think the support is there for Album of the Year.
 
I listen to country too; grew up on it. It's pretty telling to me that Cowboy Carter had appearances from Country royalty like Willie Nelson, Linda Martell and Dolly Parton, just to name a few.

Are we judging an album's success off sales numbers in an era when nobody buys albums anymore?

It was the most streamed album in a single day on both Spotify and Amazon and reached 1 BILLION streams on Spotify.

I won't argue against there being a better country album - I would have gone with Kacy Musgraves - but I think the support is there for Album of the Year.
Okay, but it didn't even finish in the top 20 for the year on the Billboard 200 charts, which given her popularity, tells me that her fans checked it out early, hence the big names out of the gate via streaming, and didn't much care for it, hence it not sustainting a high level for very long. Remember that streaming does count towards the charts, and it not even being on the same planet as some of the biggest albums of the year sales-wise is more than obvious. That said, the Grammys do not always worry about popularity when it comes to giving out awards, but it's clear that Jay-Z's mouth and probably money got her this honor.
 
Cowboy Carter is an amazing album. I would call it more Americana than country. There’s some great gospel, great blues, great folk stuff. Her duet with Miley is sublime. Tons of good stuff.
 
I listen to country too; grew up on it. It's pretty telling to me that Cowboy Carter had appearances from Country royalty like Willie Nelson, Linda Martell and Dolly Parton, just to name a few.

Are we judging an album's success off sales numbers in an era when nobody buys albums anymore?

It was the most streamed album in a single day on both Spotify and Amazon and reached 1 BILLION streams on Spotify.

I won't argue against there being a better country album - I would have gone with Kacy Musgraves - but I think the support is there for Album of the Year.
Beyonce wasn't in the top 37 for most streams in 2024.
 
I listen to country too; grew up on it. It's pretty telling to me that Cowboy Carter had appearances from Country royalty like Willie Nelson, Linda Martell and Dolly Parton, just to name a few.

Are we judging an album's success off sales numbers in an era when nobody buys albums anymore?

It was the most streamed album in a single day on both Spotify and Amazon and reached 1 BILLION streams on Spotify.

I won't argue against there being a better country album - I would have gone with Kacy Musgraves - but I think the support is there for Album of the Year.
Spotify most streamed songs released in 2024

SAINt JHN - Roses
Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER
Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
Benson Boone - Beautiful Things
Lady Gaga - Die With A Smile
FloyyMenor - Gata Only
Jimin - Who
Hozier - Too Sweet
Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!
Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please
Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love)
Artemas - i like the way you kiss me
Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
ROSÉ - APT.
Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us
KAROL G - Si Antes Te Hubiera Conocido
Post Malone - I Had Some Help (Feat. Morgan Wallen)
Taylor Swift - Fortnight
Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER
Sabrina Carpenter - Taste
SZA - Saturn
Billie Eilish - LUNCH
¥$ - CARNIVAL
Gigi Perez - Sailor Song
Future - Like That
Billie Eilish - CHIHIRO
Mark Ambor - Belong Together
Myles Smith - Stargazing
21 Savage - redrum
Benson Boone - Slow It Down
Gracie Abrams - That’s So True
Beyoncé - TEXAS HOLD 'EM
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, but it's clear that Jay-Z's mouth and probably money got her this honor.
Lmao she has way more money and influence than Jay-z, come on
That may be, but I think it goes without saying that he did her dirty work. He was the one who cried like a 3-year old at last year's Grammys about her never having won (despite her being the most-awarded Grammy winner ever), and he reportedly is the one who was paying big bucks to country stations all over to get them to play her faux country songs. But hey, she got her consolation price, an Album of the Year for an album that her fans didn't even support that much past the initial wave after it was first released.
 
I think my daughter is most excited about Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo making up. She's quietly hoping for those two and Chappell to do something together.
 
Is rock and roll completely dead? Looking at the Grammy’s performances, I’d say yes. I was much more mesmerized watching the FireAid show that streamed a few days ago. That was unreal
I stopped watching the Grammys 20 years ago.
I don't think the Grammys are for guys like us.

But they can be! You just have to let your guard down a little. I used to sneer and contort my face like I was eating a bad vegetable at the mere thought of watching the Grammys.

Now, I've softened up a little and decided to give them a try. Some really really really good music being made by people decades younger than us. Be a shame to miss it because of *reasons* or sheer stubbornness.

Some of these kids are making incredible music.
You may be right, but my musical tastes are not exactly typical of what the Grammys present. I don't listen to pop, or (much) hip hop. I haven't even heard of a lot of the performing artists.......most of the music is something a 13 yo girl would listen to. Not that they are the only ones who like new pop music, but it's right in their wheelhouse
 
Did Beyonce clean up last night because folks feel like she was cheated in the past? Maybe.
I believe she’s won more Grammys than anyone, ever? Is that right?

Yes, but never for Album of the Year. And that's the Heisman of this.
Gotcha
Well, it’s just one man’s opinion but I listen to at least some country music 5-6 days a week most weeks. I like it from the days of Conway Twitty and Charley Pride. Alabama. Garth is one of the best. I saw Travis Tritt live last summer.
I like some of the newer stuff too, I like Musgraves. Stapleton is very good imo. Saw him last year.

Her album debuted high because people wanted to check it out. Then it fell like a stone because most people think it wasn’t very good 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Beyoncé’s album Cowboy Carterfell to #50 in the albums charts in just 13 weeks, and out of the Billboard 200 completely after 28 weeks—staggering numbers for Billboard‘s recently-named pop star of the century“

The others were robbed, imo
Some one “made” me listen to it once - it’s terrible.
 
The Grammys! For fathers of daughters and daughters!

For nobody else but pop tarts and complainers.

I'll fully admit having a daughter has changed my musical tastes considerably.

Look, 4 sons, 1 daughter and she generally wants **** all nothing to do with me. I'll take my small victories where I can find them these days and if that means sitting through the Grammys with her, I'm there. And when I open my mind up a little, I find some new tunes to add to my Spotify list, which I'm always looking to update.
 
The Grammys! For fathers of daughters and daughters!

For nobody else but pop tarts and complainers.

I'll fully admit having a daughter has changed my musical tastes considerably.

Look, 4 sons, 1 daughter and she generally wants **** all nothing to do with me. I'll take my small victories where I can find them these days and if that means sitting through the Grammys with her, I'm there. And when I open my mind up a little, I find some new tunes to add to my Spotify list, which I'm always looking to update.
:goodposting:

I am lucky that my daughter enjoys a lot of the music I listen to, along with what she likes. Our driving playlists often go from Depeche Mode to Chappel Roan to Nine Inch Nails to Taylor Swift and back to Metallica.
Took her to see Olivia Rodrigo in concert and it was a great show.
She joined me at the Depeche Mode concert and loved it, wants to go with me to Nine Inch Nails.

So I sat through the Grammys with her happy to see her enjoy.
 
I listen to country too; grew up on it. It's pretty telling to me that Cowboy Carter had appearances from Country royalty like Willie Nelson, Linda Martell and Dolly Parton, just to name a few.

Are we judging an album's success off sales numbers in an era when nobody buys albums anymore?

It was the most streamed album in a single day on both Spotify and Amazon and reached 1 BILLION streams on Spotify.

I won't argue against there being a better country album - I would have gone with Kacy Musgraves - but I think the support is there for Album of the Year.
Okay, but it didn't even finish in the top 20 for the year on the Billboard 200 charts, which given her popularity, tells me that her fans checked it out early, hence the big names out of the gate via streaming, and didn't much care for it, hence it not sustainting a high level for very long. Remember that streaming does count towards the charts, and it not even being on the same planet as some of the biggest albums of the year sales-wise is more than obvious. That said, the Grammys do not always worry about popularity when it comes to giving out awards, but it's clear that Jay-Z's mouth and probably money got her this honor.

I know it's not always about popularity - Beck won for Morning Phase 10 years ago and I don't see too many folks rocking out to that one. I'm a huge Beck fan, but Morning Phase isn't even a top 5 of his, IMO. Maybe there is something to the 'lifetime achievement' aspect of these awards?

I should probably learn how Billboard tracks these things. I don't listen to radio or MTV or read any magazines anymore, so I'm way out of touch on what constitutes a record's success.

I just know I liked Cowboy Carter more than some in here and that's okay. Not everything I like is for everybody. I get told all the time by my family and friends. ;)
 
The Grammys! For fathers of daughters and daughters!

For nobody else but pop tarts and complainers.

I'll fully admit having a daughter has changed my musical tastes considerably.

Look, 4 sons, 1 daughter and she generally wants **** all nothing to do with me. I'll take my small victories where I can find them these days and if that means sitting through the Grammys with her, I'm there. And when I open my mind up a little, I find some new tunes to add to my Spotify list, which I'm always looking to update.
:goodposting:

I am lucky that my daughter enjoys a lot of the music I listen to, along with what she likes. Our driving playlists often go from Depeche Mode to Chappel Roan to Nine Inch Nails to Taylor Swift and back to Metallica.
Took her to see Olivia Rodrigo in concert and it was a great show.
She joined me at the Depeche Mode concert and loved it, wants to go with me to Nine Inch Nails.

So I sat through the Grammys with her happy to see her enjoy.
Oh, I would have LOVED to have gone to Olivia Rodrigo with my daughter, but tickets were absurdly expensive and I didn't become a fan of hers until just recently, so this is more of a hindsight thing.

That's awesome that you two enjoy the same music. I feel like I'm constantly chasing what my daughter is into, which changes like the weather here. I feel like music is the one thing I can use to relate to her that my wife cannot as she's just not the music nerd that we are. And there's some definite pushback from my daughter because who the hell wants their dorky dad singing THEIR music.

But, I'm going to keep using this conduit to relate to her and maybe one day, she'll see a good faith effort from dad to be, well, her dad.
 

"A bar in Brazil reacting to Beyoncé’s Album of the year win

I’ve seen videos of people from every continent reacting to this moment, it was a worldwide celebration.

The whole world was rooting for Beyoncé!"
 
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The Grammys! For fathers of daughters and daughters!

For nobody else but pop tarts and complainers.

I'll fully admit having a daughter has changed my musical tastes considerably.

Look, 4 sons, 1 daughter and she generally wants **** all nothing to do with me. I'll take my small victories where I can find them these days and if that means sitting through the Grammys with her, I'm there. And when I open my mind up a little, I find some new tunes to add to my Spotify list, which I'm always looking to update.
:goodposting:

I am lucky that my daughter enjoys a lot of the music I listen to, along with what she likes. Our driving playlists often go from Depeche Mode to Chappel Roan to Nine Inch Nails to Taylor Swift and back to Metallica.
Took her to see Olivia Rodrigo in concert and it was a great show.
She joined me at the Depeche Mode concert and loved it, wants to go with me to Nine Inch Nails.

So I sat through the Grammys with her happy to see her enjoy.
Oh, I would have LOVED to have gone to Olivia Rodrigo with my daughter, but tickets were absurdly expensive and I didn't become a fan of hers until just recently, so this is more of a hindsight thing.

That's awesome that you two enjoy the same music. I feel like I'm constantly chasing what my daughter is into, which changes like the weather here. I feel like music is the one thing I can use to relate to her that my wife cannot as she's just not the music nerd that we are. And there's some definite pushback from my daughter because who the hell wants their dorky dad singing THEIR music.

But, I'm going to keep using this conduit to relate to her and maybe one day, she'll see a good faith effort from dad to be, well, her dad.
I took my niece to Olivia Rodrigo last year and it was a great show. I was a bit surprised at what a rock show it was (still very much pop, but strong rock sensibilities in a lot of the songs). I am a rocker at heart, but there is a lot to like right now as far as mainstream pop goes. Some of it blows for sure, but there is some good stuff out there.
 
Cowboy Carter is an amazing album. I would call it more Americana than country. There’s some great gospel, great blues, great folk stuff. Her duet with Miley is sublime. Tons of good stuff.
Which Sublime song did she and Miley sing?







(I'll see myself out)
I'm gonna guess it wasn’t "The Wrong Way".
 
Queen Bey is like politics. It's like the passionate twenty percent of the country (and their leaders) yelling at the other passionate twenty percent (and their leaders) about what they should like and respect. Then the controllers of the supply start ramming it down the throats of all of us that are just watching the sad, sorry, and tawdry spectacle while we're pretty much begging for the status quo and to be left alone.
 
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The Grammys! For fathers of daughters and daughters!

For nobody else but pop tarts and complainers.

I'll fully admit having a daughter has changed my musical tastes considerably.

Look, 4 sons, 1 daughter and she generally wants **** all nothing to do with me. I'll take my small victories where I can find them these days and if that means sitting through the Grammys with her, I'm there. And when I open my mind up a little, I find some new tunes to add to my Spotify list, which I'm always looking to update.
:goodposting:

I am lucky that my daughter enjoys a lot of the music I listen to, along with what she likes. Our driving playlists often go from Depeche Mode to Chappel Roan to Nine Inch Nails to Taylor Swift and back to Metallica.
Took her to see Olivia Rodrigo in concert and it was a great show.
She joined me at the Depeche Mode concert and loved it, wants to go with me to Nine Inch Nails.

So I sat through the Grammys with her happy to see her enjoy.
Oh, I would have LOVED to have gone to Olivia Rodrigo with my daughter, but tickets were absurdly expensive and I didn't become a fan of hers until just recently, so this is more of a hindsight thing.

That's awesome that you two enjoy the same music. I feel like I'm constantly chasing what my daughter is into, which changes like the weather here. I feel like music is the one thing I can use to relate to her that my wife cannot as she's just not the music nerd that we are. And there's some definite pushback from my daughter because who the hell wants their dorky dad singing THEIR music.

But, I'm going to keep using this conduit to relate to her and maybe one day, she'll see a good faith effort from dad to be, well, her dad.
I took my niece to Olivia Rodrigo last year and it was a great show. I was a bit surprised at what a rock show it was (still very much pop, but strong rock sensibilities in a lot of the songs). I am a rocker at heart, but there is a lot to like right now as far as mainstream pop goes. Some of it blows for sure, but there is some good stuff out there.

Definitely a great show. Some of her songs have that 90s angsty girl rock to it. Which I like. And some are just pop. And the Breeders opened for her...

And Chappel Roan joined her on stage for a song, which got the biggest scream from the crowd.
 
Pretty sure she's a real girl

I obviously wasn't, but thank you for trying (without being a jerk, I'm laughing because you don't seem to know positively, either, and the press certainly won't tell you, so . . . )

Given her look, she's into queer theory or "queering" in some form. (It's not a sexual preference thing, it's a whole 'nother ball of wax—I'm just getting good at seeing it in the younger generation and what they're doing, although the reasons for doing it or the intent varies widely, but the look is there and obvious).
 
Oh, before anyone chimes, I'm right. She's proudly queer and is "inspired" by drag queens. She was born a woman but considers herself a drag performer. (I wonder how the gay men that perform in drag feel about that assertion.)

I'm not going to type in NTTAWWT as a disclaimer. I don't care enough.
 
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Is rock and roll completely dead? Looking at the Grammy’s performances, I’d say yes. I was much more mesmerized watching the FireAid show that streamed a few days ago. That was unreal
I stopped watching the Grammys 20 years ago.
I don't think the Grammys are for guys like us.

But they can be! You just have to let your guard down a little. I used to sneer and contort my face like I was eating a bad vegetable at the mere thought of watching the Grammys.

Now, I've softened up a little and decided to give them a try. Some really really really good music being made by people decades younger than us. Be a shame to miss it because of *reasons* or sheer stubbornness.

Some of these kids are making incredible music.
You may be right, but my musical tastes are not exactly typical of what the Grammys present. I don't listen to pop, or (much) hip hop. I haven't even heard of a lot of the performing artists.......most of the music is something a 13 yo girl would listen to. Not that they are the only ones who like new pop music, but it's right in their wheelhouse
My daughter is 13 and thought the Grammys were a complete joke. Proud of that girl. :lol:
 
Is Chappel Roan a real drag queen? I honestly don't know. Her red carpet look was the absolute pits no matter who designed it.

I couldn’t care less about an artist’s fashion or how they present themselves. For me, it’s about the music and whether or not I like it. Same back in the day with Poison or KISS. Billie Eilish’s music is pretty amazing. I don’t really care how she dresses or what she presents or doesn’t present in terms of her sexuality.
 
I couldn’t care less about an artist’s fashion or how they present themselves. For me, it’s about the music and whether or not I like it. Same back in the day with Poison or KISS.

That's fair. I think she'd consider the theory or origins of her look essential to her music and act.

She certainly isn't going to say, "Who cares what I look like?"

Neither did Poison or KISS. You can concentrate on the music, but they're not.
 
The Grammys! For fathers of daughters and daughters!

For nobody else but pop tarts and complainers.

I'll fully admit having a daughter has changed my musical tastes considerably.

Look, 4 sons, 1 daughter and she generally wants **** all nothing to do with me. I'll take my small victories where I can find them these days and if that means sitting through the Grammys with her, I'm there. And when I open my mind up a little, I find some new tunes to add to my Spotify list, which I'm always looking to update.
:goodposting:

I am lucky that my daughter enjoys a lot of the music I listen to, along with what she likes. Our driving playlists often go from Depeche Mode to Chappel Roan to Nine Inch Nails to Taylor Swift and back to Metallica.
Took her to see Olivia Rodrigo in concert and it was a great show.
She joined me at the Depeche Mode concert and loved it, wants to go with me to Nine Inch Nails.

So I sat through the Grammys with her happy to see her enjoy.
Oh, I would have LOVED to have gone to Olivia Rodrigo with my daughter, but tickets were absurdly expensive and I didn't become a fan of hers until just recently, so this is more of a hindsight thing.

That's awesome that you two enjoy the same music. I feel like I'm constantly chasing what my daughter is into, which changes like the weather here. I feel like music is the one thing I can use to relate to her that my wife cannot as she's just not the music nerd that we are. And there's some definite pushback from my daughter because who the hell wants their dorky dad singing THEIR music.

But, I'm going to keep using this conduit to relate to her and maybe one day, she'll see a good faith effort from dad to be, well, her dad.
Can't wait until you have to get into $uicideboy$
 
Neither did Poison or KISS. You can concentrate on the music, but they're not.
There's always been a style/spectacle element to the music industry going back to James Brown, Chuck Berry and Elvis. Seventies acts like Alice Cooper, Kiss and Genesis took it even further. Of course MTV in the 80s made image almost as important as the music.
 
Is Chappel Roan a real drag queen? I honestly don't know. Her red carpet look was the absolute pits no matter who designed it.

I couldn’t care less about an artist’s fashion or how they present themselves. For me, it’s about the music and whether or not I like it. Same back in the day with Poison or KISS. Billie Eilish’s music is pretty amazing. I don’t really care how she dresses or what she presents or doesn’t present in terms of her sexuality.
I don’t get it, it’s just a bunch of mumbling on top of some decent beats
 
Is Chappel Roan a real drag queen? I honestly don't know. Her red carpet look was the absolute pits no matter who designed it.

I couldn’t care less about an artist’s fashion or how they present themselves. For me, it’s about the music and whether or not I like it. Same back in the day with Poison or KISS. Billie Eilish’s music is pretty amazing. I don’t really care how she dresses or what she presents or doesn’t present in terms of her sexuality.
I don’t get it, it’s just a bunch of mumbling on top of some decent beats

This is where I fall in as well. I like her. I mean she’s a bizarre jaded superstar weirdo but as far as they go, she seems pretty likable. Confused but likable.
 

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