***Official*** 2011 FBG Subscriber Contest Thread (3 Viewers)

[QuizGuy66]

Found it the trial and error way. Will not spoil it, though. Kinda makes sense when you think about it though possibly the most anonymous productive player that's out there this year.

-QG

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

Even though I knew my roster was doomed back in week 5 or so (when pretty much my entire RB corps either got hurt, clearly weren't any good, or both), being eliminated still sucks. And I couldn't even get the 13 I needed out of Jennings to win in one of my leagues despite having nearly that midway through the 1st quarter.

I had a ton of players with very small ownership percentages, which is probably why I was eliminated in the 1st place.

 

[shahekee]

I'm guessing Gabbert or Torrey Smith

 

[5-ish Finkle]

wow, all of my guesses were wrong, even the spoiler one (which surprised me). Gotta be someone hilarious.

It's probably Tebow.

(And my decision to axe him as a third QB for,like, Berrian and another PK is looking ace right about now.)

 

[QuizGuy66]

wow, all of my guesses were wrong, even the spoiler one (which surprised me). Gotta be someone hilarious.

It's probably Tebow.

(And my decision to axe him as a third QB for,like, Berrian and another PK is looking ace right about now.)

Tebow is 10/85 so -QG

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Tebow is 10/85 so

Then it's gotta be some "forgotten man" (probably a rookie). He just has to have a high survival rate, he doesn't necessarily have to have been a contributor for those teams at all yet.Not digging through the querier to figure out who it is, but that's my last broad guess. Some cheap rookie that a handful of teams took and have basically been carrying him all year.

 

[WisWolvrns]

Steve Smith would be my guess.

 

[Cantonese32]

OK, I'll guess Colt McCoy.

 

[inyoutees]

Found it the trial and error way. Will not spoil it, though. Kinda makes sense when you think about it though possibly the most anonymous productive player that's out there this year.

-QG

I'll play. Considered everyone < 1% ownership from Doug's stats. Just guessing here. I expect it's someone who was on, say, 10 rosters or something particularly small to have a > 30% survival rate. And probably cheap/obscure enough to be found on large rosters to help with the survival rates. Hmmm.QB: Alex Smith? Doubtful

RB: Lex Hilliard

WR: Tandon Doss, because I honestly don't even know who this is

TE: Delanie Walker. Seems like a productive $2

EDIT: Nope. Though Hilliard was at least above average

 

[Nugget]

I think I found the player. He only would have counted for me one week so far.

 

[FUBAR]

Is there a limit on #of entries for a player? A super sleeper like Murray probably has a really high survivor rate, but I bet less than 100 started with him.

Good question.For those who guessed above, Jimmy Graham is the correct answer if we limit it to players on 100 or more rosters. He was on 1390 rosters, and 448 are still alive, for a survival rate of 32.2% (compare to the overall survival rate of 14.9%).There is one player with a higher survival rate than Graham, but this player was on fewer than 100 rosters at the beginning of the contest. It's not Demarco Murray.

Damian WilliamsDelanie Walkeruhhh....Beckmaybe Brees.....he was pretty pricey and might not have been on many due to late bye week...

One of my first guesses was Damian Williams. Close.Took me a few guesses, but found him. Less than 40 rosters, with 14 remaining, nice. He perfectly fit the mold of what I figured it would have to be - a cheap unknown backup for a stud.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Wow...these players tonight are doing a good job at keeping the cut line low. McGahee...yuck.

 

[QuizGuy66]

10.4 from Plax. Not bad, not great.

-QG

 

[bro1ncos]

I like the 13 points I got out of the Denver D. Not so much the 1.8 out of Willis.

 

[BassNBrew]

I like the 13 points I got out of the Denver D. Not so much the 1.8 out of Willis.

Couldn't have asked for a better night from my perspective. 13 pts should end up in the top 1/4 of the defenses and be a 5 pt+ advantage over a 1/4 of the field.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I like the 13 points I got out of the Denver D. Not so much the 1.8 out of Willis.

+1

 

[Saint]

This seems a little skewed as everyone is cheap and it definitely slants to the PK-TD area based on the # of pts they put up for a cheap player. This is why I believe the Points per $ spent is a skewed metric.

You need to use VBD points per dollar, not total points.

Calbear, can you go into more detail on VBD in this regard? I used the total points contributed in the calculation, not total points scored.

A kicker contributing 50 points doesn't give you much value if the average kicker contributed 45 points. You need to measure points over some established baseline against the dollars spent. You can probably use something like QB12, RB28, WR40, TE16, K12, D12.The cool way to do it would be to look at each of those numbers on a per-week basis, and give players credit for the number of points they scored over those baselines every week. If the QB baseline is 15 points in a given week, and you had two QBs who scored 30 and 31 points, the one who scored 30 produced 15 value points, even though you didn't happen to use him that week. That's if you're trying to figure out which players have been the most productive.

This could be fairly interesting. QG or Iggy, do you guys have a DB where you could pull these types of stats? Maybe look at QB12, RB24, RB36, WR36, WR48, TE12, TE24, K12, D12. I would certainly be interested in seeing them overall to date, as well as by week if we could get it. I tossed in the extra RB/WR/TE to account for Flex.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I like the 13 points I got out of the Denver D. Not so much the 1.8 out of Willis.

+1

Projected cut line?

 

[butcher boy]

I like the 13 points I got out of the Denver D. Not so much the 1.8 out of Willis.

+1

Projected cut line?

According to FFTools it's 0.00 right now. Whew, just barely made it too.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Is there a limit on #of entries for a player? A super sleeper like Murray probably has a really high survivor rate, but I bet less than 100 started with him.

Good question.For those who guessed above, Jimmy Graham is the correct answer if we limit it to players on 100 or more rosters. He was on 1390 rosters, and 448 are still alive, for a survival rate of 32.2% (compare to the overall survival rate of 14.9%).There is one player with a higher survival rate than Graham, but this player was on fewer than 100 rosters at the beginning of the contest. It's not Demarco Murray.

Damian WilliamsDelanie Walkeruhhh....Beckmaybe Brees.....he was pretty pricey and might not have been on many due to late bye week...

One of my first guesses was Damian Williams. Close.Took me a few guesses, but found him. Less than 40 rosters, with 14 remaining, nice. He perfectly fit the mold of what I figured it would have to be - a cheap unknown backup for a stud.

I thought it was Damian Williams...there is someone even higher? What's the answer?

 

[QuizGuy66]

This could be fairly interesting. QG or Iggy, do you guys have a DB where you could pull these types of stats? Maybe look at QB12, RB24, RB36, WR36, WR48, TE12, TE24, K12, D12. I would certainly be interested in seeing them overall to date, as well as by week if we could get it. I tossed in the extra RB/WR/TE to account for Flex.

Iggy's got all the background the numbers. I was too lazy to snag 'em this year -QG

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

This could be fairly interesting. QG or Iggy, do you guys have a DB where you could pull these types of stats? Maybe look at QB12, RB24, RB36, WR36, WR48, TE12, TE24, K12, D12. I would certainly be interested in seeing them overall to date, as well as by week if we could get it. I tossed in the extra RB/WR/TE to account for Flex.

Iggy's got all the background the numbers. I was too lazy to snag 'em this year -QG

I don't have time to figure out the baselines and such, but here's all the raw data so far if someone else wants to do it:

Player	Price	Pos	Week 1	Week 2	Week 3	Week 4	Week 5	Week 6	Week 7	Week 8	Week 9	Week 10Aaron Rodgers	31	QB	33.7	28.7	32.15	59	31.7	34	35.55	0	41.55	38.6Michael Vick	30	QB	31.05	25.6	10.9	39.3	32.75	22.25	0	30.95	13.05	12.3Drew Brees	28	QB	39.25	31.7	34.4	22.55	28.95	24.25	46.25	17.35	25.9	28.1Tom Brady	27	QB	49.15	39.45	39.85	23.2	21.35	26.15	0	21.9	27.6	34.65Peyton Manning	26	QB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Tony Romo	25	QB	29	29.25	11.65	31.55	0	22.55	20.3	16.05	27.25	31.5Philip Rivers	24	QB	26.45	30.1	11.1	23.15	24.5	0	12.85	16.55	40.15	25.1Ben Roethlisberger	23	QB	17.9	21.7	24.7	10.4	40.4	16.9	35.85	29.35	22.8	17.05Matt Ryan	21	QB	14.95	32.35	22.7	23.15	13.25	20.85	21.1	0	30.75	29.45Matt Schaub	20	QB	15	23.7	35.65	13	30.8	17.3	26.8	23.45	10.95	24.2Eli Manning	19	QB	18.6	19.8	36.4	27.75	36.5	14.5	0	29.15	24.6	25.95Matthew Stafford	18	QB	32.25	37.8	30.8	22.9	22.05	27.55	15.15	33.45	0	18.55Josh Freeman	18	QB	20.15	18.75	16.5	29.05	7.55	27.45	21.2	0	20.85	14Joe Flacco	17	QB	29.2	13.85	40.15	6.85	0	20.15	11.05	17.3	21	18.55Sam Bradford	17	QB	7.9	24.05	15.5	14.2	0	15.05	0	0	11.95	13.05Jay Cutler	16	QB	26.6	19.4	26.2	4.3	18.75	25.35	15.2	0	22.4	7.95Kevin Kolb	15	QB	27.35	23.55	18.2	10.95	10.6	0	26	13.15	0	0Matt Cassel	15	QB	10.55	3.65	19.9	21	38.05	0	5.85	18.45	16.45	12.25Cam Newton	14	QB	39.9	35.9	16.6	39.2	30.9	19.85	30.7	37.8	0	15.1Kyle Orton	14	QB	21.5	21.55	18.65	29.35	0.6	0	0	0	0	0Mark Sanchez	14	QB	28.05	22	35.65	5.25	20.3	22.55	28.15	0	16.2	26.4Ryan Fitzpatrick	13	QB	34.7	32.5	27.85	10.45	15.35	23	0	24.5	14.45	12.3Jason Campbell	12	QB	17.45	33.45	8.8	24.1	20.5	4.2	0	0	0	0Donovan McNabb	11	QB	10.15	12.6	17.65	21.1	14.85	8.85	0	0	0	0Tarvaris Jackson	11	QB	22.15	9.15	15.55	33.55	15	0	0	15.35	8.35	11.15Matt Hasselbeck	11	QB	25.05	22.9	27.35	28.5	18.4	0	9.2	17.1	25.9	18.05Colt McCoy	10	QB	22.25	17.55	21.3	24.1	0	24.35	11	20.05	12.9	11.3Alex Smith	10	QB	14.4	22.05	10.05	26.45	26.5	11.75	0	17.05	16.9	19.8David Garrard	9	QB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Andy Dalton	8	QB	10.05	28.9	6.35	26.1	19.95	19.1	0	18.7	29.25	18.5Tim Tebow	8	QB	0	0	0	-0.1	19.75	0	26.55	19.9	30	19.75Chad Henne	8	QB	43.7	16.1	20.35	0.45	0	0	0	0	0	0John Beck	8	QB	0	0	0	0	0	13.25	25.95	9.4	18.6	0Rex Grossman	8	QB	27.25	24.05	18.1	11.35	0	3.15	0	0	0	8.75Blaine Gabbert	7	QB	0	2.7	12.15	16.2	18.15	13.05	4.55	10.25	0	11.7Vince Young	6	QB	0	0	0	0	0	-0.8	0	0	0	0Bruce Gradkowski	5	QB	10.6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Christian Ponder	4	QB	0	0	0	0	0	5.75	24.05	18.2	0	10.2Charlie Whitehurst	4	QB	0	0	0	0	14.05	0	4.15	2.7	0	0Arian Foster	38	RB	0	5	0	24.1	20.9	13.1	43.9	18.9	23.5	32.6Adrian Peterson	37	RB	11.4	27.1	17.7	8.8	30.2	10.4	24	30.7	0	11.1Chris Johnson	36	RB	7.9	8	9.5	12.2	14	0	7.5	6.6	13	25.4Ray Rice	35	RB	28.9	18.1	18.9	20	0	18.6	8.8	31.4	17.1	18.15Jamaal Charles	34	RB	15	2.7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0LeSean McCoy	34	RB	26.7	25.6	21.6	14.2	18.7	20.9	0	33	20.2	16.8Rashard Mendenhall	31	RB	4.5	14.8	6.1	8.5	0	20.6	4.2	10.7	12	19.5Maurice Jones-Drew	30	RB	15.7	12.2	18.2	9.2	14.5	11.4	11.4	13.9	0	21.2Matt Forte	29	RB	24.3	21.6	11.7	30.8	17.1	15.3	25.3	0	16.5	13.2Frank Gore	29	RB	9.3	13.9	4.2	20.9	21.3	21.6	0	19.4	11.9	1.3Darren McFadden	28	RB	16.1	29.8	31.3	14.3	7.8	15.8	1.2	0	0	0Michael Turner	27	RB	15.5	21.1	2	21.8	11.6	27.2	12.2	0	14.3	11.1Peyton Hillis	27	RB	11.7	25.7	0	9.4	0	1.4	0	0	0	0Mark Ingram	26	RB	4	5.1	10.5	6.8	11.9	9.3	10.2	0	0	1.9Shonn Greene	26	RB	3.8	12.5	14.1	2.3	16.2	8.2	12.2	0	7.6	8.5DeAngelo Williams	25	RB	4.1	5.6	4.5	8.2	17.5	5.1	3.5	4.9	0	3.5Jahvid Best	25	RB	13.4	27.3	11.3	8	25.2	14	0	0	0	0Ahmad Bradshaw	25	RB	11.9	12.9	22.4	13	9.5	32	0	11.3	0	0Ryan Mathews	25	RB	13.3	22.1	28.9	17.4	13.7	0	8.5	14.2	0	7.2Steven Jackson	25	RB	11.6	0	2.3	14.4	0	14.5	15.3	33.1	14.7	16.6LeGarrette Blount	25	RB	1.5	19.1	9.9	20.6	7.5	0	0	0	9	3.9Felix Jones	23	RB	14.1	3.5	17	10.1	0	4.3	0	0	0	0Fred Jackson	21	RB	12.2	27	24.6	18.3	28.6	25.3	0	20.9	13.5	13.5Jonathan Stewart	21	RB	5	14.5	10	10.5	3.8	14.7	12.8	6.9	0	6.5Ryan Grant	21	RB	5	5.4	9.2	0	2.9	6.2	2.9	0	1.6	2.8Marshawn Lynch	21	RB	5.7	1.7	8	13.2	21.1	0	0	8.4	20.8	25.2Joseph Addai	20	RB	6.2	12.1	15.3	5.3	3	0	2.9	0	0	0BenJarvus Green-Ellis	19	RB	9.4	14	1.8	14.9	27.4	7.4	0	0.9	6.8	0.8Knowshon Moreno	18	RB	6.7	0	0	1.6	11.5	0	4.8	7.9	1.8	5.2Cedric Benson	17	RB	18.8	9.1	6.4	10.4	5.3	12.7	0	0	7.8	6.7Daniel Thomas	17	RB	0	12.2	19.7	0	0	6.4	6.3	0	1.2	4.2Chris Wells	16	RB	18.2	15.3	0	31.8	12	0	4.2	14.3	4.3	6.2James Starks	16	RB	11.7	13	2.9	12.6	6.9	7.6	11.4	0	8	8.9Brandon Jacobs	16	RB	2.9	13.2	13.1	8.3	0	0	0	1.5	18	8.2Ryan Torain	16	RB	0	0	0	19.5	0	2.2	-0.5	2.5	1.4	2.9Ryan Williams	15	RB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Reggie Bush	15	RB	19.9	2.6	3	7.5	0	8.8	5.6	14	21.7	19.1Mike Tolbert	15	RB	31.8	12.3	5.8	15.3	6.4	0	11.8	0	22.2	9.8Tim Hightower	14	RB	17.2	11.1	16.5	3.3	0	0	8.8	0	0	0C.J. Spiller	13	RB	8.6	7.4	0.1	2.6	2.6	6.4	0	1.9	0.5	0.1Demarco Murray	13	RB	1.8	3	0.6	1.6	0	4.4	31.3	7.7	20.6	26.1Rashad Jennings	13	RB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Shane Vereen	13	RB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Delone Carter	12	RB	2.5	4.6	1.1	2.1	10.4	4.5	14.9	5.7	0.8	1.4LaDainian Tomlinson	12	RB	11.9	2	23.9	0.6	2	6.1	6.6	0	12.3	7Willis McGahee	11	RB	6	17.1	12.9	12.3	12.5	0	7.6	0	28.3	1.7Darren Sproles	11	RB	11.7	16	17.5	15.6	11.6	10.2	25.7	10.6	18.4	2.3Danny Woodhead	10	RB	8	3.7	5.6	1.3	0	3.9	0	0	7.5	4.9Michael Bush	10	RB	3	8.3	12.7	16.1	0.9	4.2	12.1	0	19.9	31.7Bernard Scott	9	RB	0.3	1	1	3.2	8.9	3.9	0	9.1	2.4	3.8Jacquizz Rodgers	8	RB	4.8	1.7	3.6	4	1.1	1.9	3.2	0	6.5	4.3Ronnie Brown	8	RB	0.7	1	0.6	1.5	0	0	0	0.4	6.4	0.4Thomas Jones	7	RB	0.3	4	3.8	3.7	7.2	0	1.9	1	0.5	0.4Pierre Thomas	7	RB	8.8	6.5	4.8	9.9	11.7	2.1	15	11.4	17.1	5.8Roy Helu	7	RB	0.2	12.7	4.2	3.5	0	2.7	1.5	3.5	21.6	6.9Jason Snelling	6	RB	6.7	1.3	1.3	0	3.3	2.4	2.3	0	1.5	9.5Ricky Williams	6	RB	7.2	0.2	5.8	4.9	0	6.8	0.5	4.7	4	4.7Toby Gerhart	6	RB	1.6	8.3	1.2	0.4	0.9	2	0.4	2.6	0	0Justin Forsett	6	RB	2.6	4.5	0.6	5.6	0.9	0	2.3	1.8	3.2	0.3Kendall Hunter	6	RB	0.4	0	10.8	11	6.5	3.3	0	2.6	2.5	10.9Jerome Harrison	5	RB	2.7	0.6	1.6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Montario Hardesty	4	RB	1.8	0.1	10.1	9.6	0	6.3	13.2	0.6	0	0Tashard Choice	4	RB	1.4	3.9	1.3	8.2	0	4.5	0.8	0	0	0Maurice Morris	4	RB	3.9	0	1.5	0	1.3	3.3	7.3	13	0	5.5Mike Goodson	3	RB	0.9	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Marion Barber	3	RB	0	0	0	7.7	1.5	10	9.9	0	10.4	2.7Brandon Jackson	3	RB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Jeremiah Johnson	3	RB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Alex Green	3	RB	0	0	0	1.1	1.1	0	0	0	0	0Ben Tate	3	RB	17.6	15.5	9.5	2	0	4.1	10.4	4.2	17.5	12.3Derrick Ward	3	RB	9.9	0	0	0	0	0	0.7	0	2.2	9.6Donald Brown	3	RB	0	0	0	0	3.8	12.1	4.7	9.9	7.6	8.5Deji Karim	3	RB	8.7	3	3.3	0.6	4.6	2.1	2.8	0.7	0	4.7Lex Hilliard	3	RB	0.1	0	1.7	10.3	0	2	0	1.6	0	0Bilal Powell	3	RB	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Joe McKnight	3	RB	0	1.4	0	0	0.1	3.9	1.1	0	2.7	0Cadillac Williams	3	RB	16.5	5.5	8.4	0	0	4.4	1.9	0	1.7	0Allen Bradford	3	RB	0	0	0	0	1.3	0	0	0	0	0Javon Ringer	3	RB	0	12.1	2.1	0.4	5.8	0	5.3	12.7	3	3.1LaRod Stephens-Howling	2	RB	1.7	0	0	1.5	0.5	0	14.6	1.7	0.4	4.8Taiwan Jones	2	RB	0	0.4	0.8	0	0	0	5.3	0	0.1	3.9Isaac Redman	2	RB	1.2	12	0.6	5.7	7.6	2.9	5.4	2.1	1.5	2.2Mewelde Moore	2	RB	4	1.4	3.6	3.4	0	0	2.6	11.5	0	0.7Dexter McCluster (RB)	2	RB	9.2	6.9	8.7	5.3	2.3	0	4	4.3	4.9	12.3Andre Johnson	33	WR	22.5	22.3	20.6	7.6	0	0	0	0	0	0Calvin Johnson	31	WR	26.8	17.9	29.8	29.6	24	18.3	22.5	24.5	0	15.1Roddy White	30	WR	14.1	11.3	23	13.8	17	4.1	16.2	0	11.6	10.2Hakeem Nicks	29	WR	19.2	10.5	5.5	32.2	16.5	13.6	0	12.7	0	12.1Larry Fitzgerald	28	WR	9.2	26.3	17.4	18.2	10.6	0	11.8	12.8	14.3	33.6Greg Jennings	27	WR	21.9	13.5	20.9	23.3	18.2	14.2	27.7	0	16.6	12.2Miles Austin	26	WR	20	41.1	0	0	0	14.4	3.6	5.7	7.3	0Reggie Wayne	26	WR	23.6	10.6	5.4	9.9	11.7	10.8	6.6	11.1	7	4.3Vincent Jackson	25	WR	5.1	39.2	11.4	19.8	6.4	0	2.5	7.9	39.1	3.2Dwayne Bowe	24	WR	3.7	16.3	16.7	21.7	31.8	0	13.6	10.2	14.8	3.7Brandon Marshall	24	WR	20.9	19.9	8.3	10.2	0	16.9	12.1	9.5	24.6	16.8Santonio Holmes	24	WR	13	13.2	2.9	6.3	16	15.3	4.4	0	11.9	15.3DeSean Jackson	24	WR	22.2	4.1	5.3	23.1	19.2	7.6	0	6.1	4.6	0Anquan Boldin	23	WR	17.4	7.6	14.4	3.8	0	21.2	14	21.5	15.8	4.2Wes Welker	23	WR	36	15.1	51.6	30.8	17.4	16.5	0	9.9	23.9	10.6Mike Wallace	23	WR	18.7	26.6	25.4	11.7	21	15.6	20.8	14	16.8	14.5Brandon Lloyd	22	WR	14.9	0	7.8	21.6	3	0	13.4	17.3	13	14.8Percy Harvin	22	WR	4.2	16.4	11.8	15.9	3.3	15.3	4.3	17.4	0	13Marques Colston	22	WR	14.1	0	0	1.8	11.9	24.8	28.8	8	10.2	19.3Dez Bryant	21	WR	16.1	0	10.3	19.2	0	11.8	20	5.8	11.6	19.4Mike Williams (TB)	21	WR	15	0.6	9.3	11.9	6.8	11.9	13.5	0	10.6	6.3Kenny Britt	21	WR	30.6	28.5	4.8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Jeremy Maclin	20	WR	3	42.2	11.9	14.4	17.4	15.1	0	14.4	10.3	2.6Steve Johnson	19	WR	16.6	23.6	23.4	9.8	6.9	14.9	0	11.7	11.4	2.8Steve Smith (CAR)	19	WR	37.8	21.6	3.5	26.1	16.9	11.6	21.9	24.2	0	8.3Austin Collie	19	WR	0	5.4	7.9	3.6	7	1.8	3.2	9.4	7.2	7.1Chad Ochocinco	19	WR	2.4	6.5	4.8	4.6	4.3	0	0	0	0	8.5Mario Manningham	19	WR	8.9	8.6	0	2	10.6	10.6	0	18.3	12.3	19.7Pierre Garcon	18	WR	6.9	5.8	14.2	28.6	29.5	13.2	6.1	13.6	5.2	7.8Julio Jones	17	WR	12.1	4.9	16.6	23.7	4.3	0	0	0	31.4	2.9A.J. Green	17	WR	11.1	28.4	6.9	16.4	20	16.1	0	16.3	15.3	11.3Sidney Rice	17	WR	0	0	18.9	16.9	7.8	0	5.8	17.2	9.9	3.4Robert Meachem	16	WR	18	11.7	16.1	9.9	7.8	3.3	4.6	3.2	0	14.9Santana Moss	16	WR	13.6	17.1	12	14.9	0	5.8	3.7	0	0	0Mike Thomas	15	WR	13.5	5.9	15.5	12.3	7.9	7.6	1.8	5.4	0	2.3Jacoby Ford	14	WR	4.9	0	0	3	6.5	7.3	3.8	0	21.5	5.1Hines Ward	14	WR	11.7	7.3	4.7	2.9	24.4	7.7	5.1	0	0	2Greg Little	13	WR	2.2	7.8	5.4	11.7	0	13.2	8.1	6	5.3	15.4Davone Bess	13	WR	14.2	6.2	10.2	5.1	0	4.1	12.2	7.3	1	7.7Johnny Knox	12	WR	9	6.5	12.4	7.8	3.7	6.1	8.3	0	2.4	2.8Roy Williams	11	WR	9.5	0	0	2.5	2.1	8	15.9	0	7.6	0Deion Branch	11	WR	16.3	20.9	0	7.4	20.4	9.9	0	13.6	4.1	16.8Mike Williams (SEA)	11	WR	7.4	1.9	0	12.6	0	0	2	0	7.1	0Mike Sims-Walker	11	WR	1.5	15.2	6.6	1.6	0	0	2.1	0	0	0Arrelious Benn	11	WR	6.7	9.5	4.9	5.6	7.6	16.8	0.2	0	3.8	6.7Lee Evans	10	WR	0	6.5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Lance Moore	10	WR	0	1.6	23.8	10	6	6.6	7.4	20.4	11	3.8Plaxico Burress	10	WR	17.2	0	14.5	6.3	7.2	2.6	24.5	0	12.9	12.9Michael Crabtree	10	WR	1.4	0	5.4	11.8	5.6	16.7	0	16.4	10.1	3.1Donnie Avery	10	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Andre Roberts	9	WR	4.1	6	7.8	0	6.6	0	1.8	0	10.5	10.7James Jones	9	WR	1.1	2.5	6.4	13.8	25	10.5	10.3	0	9.1	1.9Braylon Edwards	9	WR	5.7	3.1	0	0	0	0	0	8.2	5	7.7Torrey Smith	8	WR	0	0	39.2	1.1	0	11.4	6.2	8.7	18.1	7.4Earl Bennett	8	WR	3.1	1.9	0	0	0	0	0	0	20.5	14.1Jerome Simpson	8	WR	8.4	17.6	1.6	5.6	8	16.1	0	8.4	13.3	0Nate Burleson	8	WR	13	16.3	3.2	3.6	2	13.4	2.1	7.2	0	17.3Donald Driver	8	WR	8.1	2	0	11	1.5	11.5	1.6	0	3.8	6.6Kevin Walter	8	WR	2.4	0	12.5	0	19.1	11.2	6.5	12	1.5	1.6Emmanuel Sanders	8	WR	10	7.15	4.1	2	0	4.2	15.6	12	0	0Malcom Floyd	8	WR	7.5	7.9	4.8	4.6	19	0	5.6	15.7	0	0Danny Amendola	8	WR	9.5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Devin Hester	7	WR	9	2.7	9.2	0	8.2	20.1	8	0	2.2	0Eddie Royal	7	WR	5.3	3.8	0	0	0	0	3.4	10.1	10.5	1.9Jordy Nelson	7	WR	19.7	15.4	7	20.1	4.7	18.4	9.2	0	21.5	23.3Jason Hill	7	WR	9.3	0	1.5	5.4	22.8	10.9	10.2	7.5	0	0Jonathan Baldwin	7	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	2.4	19.2	2.2	2.5Steve Breaston	7	WR	4.6	1.7	8.5	13.1	21	0	11.4	7.2	18.5	7.3Devin Aromashodu	7	WR	0	0	1.5	10.4	10.1	0	2.3	4	0	0Derrick Mason	7	WR	4.9	1.7	10.5	5.7	1.7	5.7	1.7	1.5	0	2.6Louis Murphy	7	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3.3	0Jabar Gaffney	7	WR	14.4	11.2	11	10.2	0	7.5	10.8	8	14	6.7Mark Clayton	6	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Brian Robiskie	6	WR	0	0	0	5.5	0	1.4	0	0	0	0Eric Decker	6	WR	8.3	28.3	11.8	22.7	1.6	0	4.1	19.2	13.7	12.6Jacoby Jones	6	WR	7.3	7.8	1	0	1.9	17.6	4.3	8.9	4.8	16.9Brian Hartline	6	WR	14.7	5.6	12.7	6.1	0	5.7	4.9	0	0	1.6Vincent Brown	6	WR	0	0	0	4.6	0	0	0	0	11.9	20.7Danario Alexander	6	WR	0	21.2	4.8	7.6	0	15.1	2.9	0	0	0Anthony Armstrong	6	WR	10.4	3.4	0	0	0	0	1.9	0	0	0Jerricho Cotchery	5	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	7.7	10.9Terrell Owens	5	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Early Doucet	5	WR	19.5	4	10	7.2	17.2	0	14	10	13.8	10.4David Gettis	5	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Bernard Berrian	5	WR	0	2.7	0	3	0	10.4	0	0	0	0Jason Avant	5	WR	7	3.9	7.3	12.9	22.9	5.8	0	12.4	4	1.2Steve Smith (PHI)	5	WR	0	4.9	4.7	0	0	1.7	0	0	0	9.7Josh Morgan	5	WR	4.8	6.5	3.7	15.5	12.5	0	0	0	0	0Nate Washington	5	WR	12.7	16.9	23.2	8.2	11.9	0	2	19.7	5.8	7.2Harry Douglas	4	WR	3	3.9	8.5	0	3.6	7.7	10.2	0	0	21.6David Nelson	4	WR	10.6	24.3	14.4	3.8	7.6	10.2	0	8.7	13.6	13.1Jordan Shipley	4	WR	0.9	4.5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Mohamed Massaquoi	4	WR	10.7	7.5	10.6	10.6	0	12	2.5	0	0	0Kevin Ogletree	4	WR	3.9	6.6	4.9	2.3	0	2.2	0	0	0	2.7Titus Young	4	WR	0	13.9	9.1	7.1	3.4	2.4	0	16.6	0	14.4Devery Henderson	4	WR	22	19.3	9.2	0	2.1	2.2	1.9	1.8	3.3	0Chaz Schilens	4	WR	0	1.9	7.1	0	10.5	0	0	0	4	0Golden Tate	4	WR	7.8	3.2	3.5	0	5.1	0	2.1	3.1	1.8	7.1Damian Williams	4	WR	1.5	0	2.9	7.4	18.6	0	1.5	10	13.4	21.7Tandon Doss	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Legedu Naanee	3	WR	3.1	3.4	2.3	6.7	10.3	5.1	5.1	9.9	0	15.5Randall Cobb	3	WR	11.5	4.5	2.3	9.5	4.6	0.6	1.8	0	0	6.6Cecil Shorts	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Jarett Dillard	3	WR	0	3.5	0	3.6	1.3	1.7	0	2.2	0	11Brandon Tate	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Darrius Heyward-Bey	3	WR	8.4	0	1.5	15.5	22.9	14.2	13.9	0	0	0Denarius Moore	3	WR	0	28.1	15.7	10.9	0	1.6	1.4	0	10.1	29.3Riley Cooper	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Antonio Brown	3	WR	3.4	10.8	11.5	12.5	5.3	2.6	17.2	21.7	15.9	13.6Micheal Spurlock	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1.7	0Sammie Stroughter	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Leonard Hankerson	3	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3.3	7.4	18.6T.J. Houshmandzadeh	2	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3.8	1.7James Hardy	2	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Roscoe Parrish	2	WR	0	2.6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Josh Cribbs	2	WR	2	7.1	13.9	10	0	5	1.9	13.6	16	8.3David Anderson	2	WR	0	0	0	0	1.9	0	0	0	0	2.4Dexter McCluster (WR)	2	WR	11.7	8.9	11.2	6.8	2.8	0	4.5	5.8	5.4	15.3Greg Camarillo	2	WR	0	0	0	0	0	3.3	5.5	0	0	0Michael Jenkins	2	WR	11.6	5.9	17.8	7.1	7.2	8.5	20.1	5	0	7.9Jerrel Jernigan	2	WR	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Patrick Crayton	2	WR	0	0	9.7	1.3	2	0	1.3	8	1.5	6.4Ted Ginn	2	WR	0	7.8	0	0	2.4	6.5	0	-0.8	2.4	6.9Antonio Gates	29	TE	19.4	0	0	0	0	0	18.9	13.3	27.6	12.9Jason Witten	26	TE	20	20.7	15	27.4	0	16.8	17	8.8	19.1	11.2Dallas Clark	25	TE	9.9	15.2	4.2	9.1	2.2	20.3	0	16.7	5.1	0Vernon Davis	23	TE	12.2	4.8	23.2	16.5	20.1	3.8	0	7.2	10.1	14.5Jermichael Finley	22	TE	9.8	14.3	37	7.3	12.7	3.5	10.3	0	17.9	11.2Marcedes Lewis	18	TE	5.8	0	4.5	8.3	2.1	5.9	2.8	10.5	0	1.1Jimmy Graham	15	TE	17.6	16.9	22	34.2	24.9	22.9	26.4	9.9	16.8	24.7Rob Gronkowski	14	TE	23.6	26.6	33.4	3	9.1	17.9	0	19.9	28.1	35.3Kellen Winslow	13	TE	15.6	10.4	5	10.8	12.9	11.5	14.5	0	14.9	7.8Owen Daniels	12	TE	2.7	13	21.1	20.4	19.4	4.3	13.1	12	7.7	7.6Dustin Keller	12	TE	19.6	25.1	16.2	4.2	2.2	8.1	11.3	0	12.4	6.7Jared Cook	12	TE	2.2	6.7	4.2	18.3	11.9	0	11.2	7	10.7	3.3Chris Cooley	12	TE	5.1	0	10.4	1.9	0	1.4	0	0	0	0Brandon Pettigrew	11	TE	11.7	2.2	27.7	15.4	15.9	22.2	9.1	5.3	0	11.3Tony Gonzalez	10	TE	14.7	30.8	10.8	22.1	15	7.4	13.7	0	15.6	22.1Jermaine Gresham	10	TE	20.8	3.8	11.1	19	15.6	8.3	0	0	0	14.3Aaron Hernandez	10	TE	26.8	22.7	0	0	13.1	24.8	0	10.1	15.5	10.1Greg Olsen	9	TE	13.8	4.9	22.2	18.5	12.6	11.7	1.9	19.3	0	10.5Tony Moeaki	9	TE	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Heath Miller	9	TE	8.7	3.1	14.6	6	15.1	8.7	18.5	19	14.8	7.6Zach Miller (SEA)	9	TE	4.9	2.8	3.9	6.6	0	0	0	8.2	0	6.9Todd Heap	8	TE	7	2.3	15.1	10.1	0	0	0	0	0	0Ed Dickson	8	TE	19.4	5.5	12.6	10.5	0	5	8.3	13.6	3.8	34.9Ben Watson	7	TE	15	4.6	13.9	19.8	0	8	2	10.9	5.6	7.5Visanthe Shiancoe	7	TE	0	7.3	8.3	14.8	3.5	12	16.5	8.2	0	4.8Kevin Boss	7	TE	0	0	6.6	13.8	0	11	2.6	0	0	6.2Brent Celek	7	TE	2.8	10.3	3.9	1.7	2.1	16.2	0	25.9	16.5	11.3Lance Kendricks	6	TE	3.3	4.1	4.7	9.3	0	13.1	0	1.7	2.2	0Jeremy Shockey	5	TE	9.6	10.1	7.5	7.1	6.6	12	9.2	7.6	0	3.4Anthony Fasano	5	TE	15.7	0	4.1	2.4	0	2.8	11.2	0	18.8	10.5Travis Beckum	5	TE	0	0	1.7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Fred Davis	5	TE	18	23.6	3.8	9.4	0	18.5	23	21.4	10.2	7.3Kyle Rudolph	4	TE	0	3	8.4	8.9	0	5	0	4.5	0	8.2Martellus Bennett	3	TE	0	0	2.1	5.2	0	4.3	0	0	0	2.3Tony Scheffler	3	TE	9.1	11.1	1.9	0	2.7	0	4.5	14.3	0	14.2Jacob Tamme	3	TE	0	0	0	0	0	1.6	0	0	3.6	16.5Dennis Pitta	2	TE	7.5	5.4	0	2.9	0	3.9	5.8	13.4	12.1	10.9Bo Scaife	2	TE	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Evan Moore	2	TE	14	9.1	4.9	3	0	4.2	9.5	4.7	4.1	0Joel Dreessen	2	TE	3.6	2.4	0	2.9	24.7	0	12.1	10.9	5.7	0Zach Miller (JAX)	2	TE	0	7.3	0	8.9	0	0	0	0	0	0David Thomas	2	TE	0	1.6	2.2	0	0	0	0	0	1.9	3.4Randy McMichael	2	TE	6.5	2.1	11.1	7	8.9	0	9	4.1	1.8	0John Carlson	2	TE	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Delanie Walker	2	TE	1.4	12.8	2.4	6.5	12.7	10.1	0	0	4.2	15.9Michael Hoomanawanui	2	TE	0	2.3	2.5	0	0	0	8.9	0	0	5.1Nate Kaeding	7	PK	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Mason Crosby	6	PK	6	14	10	7	19	7	21	0	11	9Stephen Gostkowski	6	PK	8	11	7	9	14	9	0	7	11	17Garrett Hartley	6	PK	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Neil Rackers	5	PK	10	12	16	5	13	2	12	7	15	7Alex Henery	5	PK	8	7	11	14	7	8	0	10	8	6Matt Bryant	4	PK	8	5	8	19	2	7	15	0	7	12Billy Cundiff	4	PK	10	9	15	12	0	24	1	14	16	6Robbie Gould	4	PK	14	10	5	10	11	16	6	0	16	19Jason Hanson	4	PK	9	15	20	14	7	7	13	12	0	8Adam Vinatieri	4	PK	1	18	8	7	9	7	1	4	1	5Sebastian Janikowski	4	PK	15	5	15	7	24	8	0	0	8	6Dan Bailey	3	PK	7	11	25	15	0	12	14	1	13	18David Buehler	3	PK	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Matt Prater	3	PK	9	7	2	5	5	0	7	5	10	6Josh Scobee	3	PK	14	6	7	5	8	11	21	2	0	7Ryan Succop	3	PK	1	4	6	24	4	0	4	15	5	5Dan Carpenter	3	PK	6	10	13	16	0	6	13	7	9	8Ryan Longwell	3	PK	6	8	16	6	13	5	14	7	0	1Lawrence Tynes	3	PK	2	4	3	8	5	9	0	8	6	8Nick Folk	3	PK	13	15	6	7	3	6	11	0	14	2Shaun Suisham	3	PK	1	6	16	4	8	5	17	12	10	7Jeff Reed	3	PK	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0David Akers	3	PK	16	9	10	7	13	16	0	8	19	18Josh Brown	3	PK	9	10	1	5	0	4	1	8	14	8Connor Barth	3	PK	10	7	12	8	3	21	5	0	14	6Rob Bironas	3	PK	2	18	7	8	5	0	1	15	7	16Jay Feely	2	PK	4	3	6	9	7	0	2	12	8	3Rian Lindell	2	PK	12	8	12	10	7	8	0	16	3	0Olindo Mare	2	PK	3	12	8	13	3	7	21	3	0	3Mike Nugent	2	PK	11	13	6	14	8	11	0	13	7	7Phil Dawson	2	PK	5	9	6	12	0	7	12	7	12	17Nick Novak	2	PK	0	3	11	17	22	0	3	18	11	5Shayne Graham	2	PK	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0Pittsburgh Steelers	9	DST	1	5	9	0	5	5	6	5	5	4Green Bay Packers	8	DST	11	12	7	15	5	5	6	0	20	11New England Patriots	7	DST	6	10	4	4	2	6	0	7	4	17New York Jets	7	DST	16	12	1	20	6	16	5	0	6	2Philadelphia Eagles	7	DST	13	8	3	5	3	10	0	6	10	14Baltimore Ravens	6	DST	18	2	15	28	0	4	6	8	5	1Chicago Bears	6	DST	17	3	6	14	3	13	9	0	5	32Detroit Lions	6	DST	6	14	4	19	3	6	7	25	0	4New York Giants	6	DST	6	12	8	8	12	7	0	7	10	4Atlanta Falcons	5	DST	13	6	4	4	6	8	5	0	6	0New Orleans Saints	5	DST	8	8	4	5	3	0	13	12	1	3San Diego Chargers	5	DST	4	2	3	7	2	0	12	11	4	5Dallas Cowboys	4	DST	8	8	7	2	0	11	5	4	7	15Indianapolis Colts	4	DST	7	3	15	2	2	0	2	1	9	4Kansas City Chiefs	4	DST	3	2	6	4	0	0	25	11	0	0Miami Dolphins	4	DST	3	3	2	2	0	4	9	1	5	7Minnesota Vikings	4	DST	12	4	5	3	12	3	6	7	0	5Oakland Raiders	4	DST	11	2	8	1	7	10	4	0	2	10San Francisco 49ers	4	DST	23	5	7	8	15	7	0	8	7	5Tampa Bay Buccaneers	4	DST	8	4	10	6	2	8	8	0	2	1Tennessee Titans	4	DST	4	9	5	12	3	0	0	12	1	15Arizona Cardinals	3	DST	12	5	6	5	3	0	2	13	12	6Carolina Panthers	3	DST	4	3	6	3	4	1	9	6	0	3Cincinnati Bengals	3	DST	4	6	9	1	13	13	0	20	4	7Cleveland Browns	3	DST	4	6	9	2	0	4	7	1	2	5Houston Texans	3	DST	13	6	6	7	5	6	12	5	8	12Seattle Seahawks	3	DST	0	2	7	0	21	0	7	5	2	7St. Louis Rams	3	DST	5	5	4	4	0	3	4	16	7	4Washington Redskins	3	DST	12	7	5	9	0	6	4	6	4	6Buffalo Bills	2	DST	8	4	14	12	17	0	0	13	5	0Denver Broncos	2	DST	9	2	6	6	15	0	6	2	14	4Jacksonville Jaguars	2	DST	4	5	0	7	4	3	7	6	0	11

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

The answer to my trivia question from yesterday:

Click for the answer.

 

[QuizGuy66]

The answer to my trivia question from yesterday:

Click for the answer.

It doesn't actually name the player that Iggy was referring to there, so here it is:

Spoiler

Vincent Brown of the Chargers. Funny thing is he put up a bunch of 0's (interrupted by a 4.6) for the first 8 weeks of the contest. He's just taking off a bit now.

-QG

-QG

 

[Das Boot]

Just heard that Lee Evans was on the field today while watching the Ravens game.

:championship:

:confetti:

 

[Irish Chaos]

reggie bush AND fasano?? lets go...

 

[RenegadeGM]

Jordy Nelson.

 

[Das Boot]

Jordy Nelson.

I wish I had him - instead I went with Cobb. However I do have Stafford.

 

[RenegadeGM]

Jordy Nelson.

I wish I had him - instead I went with Cobb. However I do have Stafford.

Stafford AND Nelson here!

 

[Das Boot]

Jordy Nelson.

I wish I had him - instead I went with Cobb. However I do have Stafford.

Stafford AND Nelson here!

Congrats - both are looking like potential Homerun picks for the final 3 weeks.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

**enters thread slams money down on counter**

I'm out!!

**leaves thread**

Fun while it lasted.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Jordy Nelson.

nelson and rice combining for almost 60 pts for me today

 

[Balco]

Nice of Brandon Marshall to show up. 1 catch for 5 yards. THis is the week I bow out.

 

[bro1ncos]

Not looking good for me after the early games.

 

[QuizGuy66]

112.55 +

Brady/Hasselbeck - 17.65

+ MB III - 2.4/8.6

+ V Jax - 2.4/10.4

+ A Hernandez - 2.4/13.9

+ Feely - 6

+ Arizona - 7



-QG

 

[Grid71]

Doing better than I thought this week and will come down to Monday night. Stupid # of players on a bye or out this week for a 29 player team. Thank you Burleson & Jordy Nelson

90 +

Brady -0

Wells/Tolbert -1.8

Gronk -2.1

Kickers Feely/Brown -6

Rams D - 1

 

[Saint]

105.85 ... and worried.

Brady (-18), SJax (-4), Wells (-4), Bennett (-10), and McCluster (-10).

 

[Irish Chaos]

CUTLAHHHHH saving me potentially...

 

[Sinn Fein]

odds of the cut being <130?

 

[Irish Chaos]

how many forte owners are out there, i cant imagine those rosters are doing that well?

 

[kylechoffman]

116 and I have no QB playing... Come on vjax and tolbert garbage stats..

Done - for the day and likely for the contest. Note to self, buy into three qbs next year.

 

[Irish Chaos]

108 with welker left....any projections for the cutline...i hope its around 110-115

 

[QuizGuy66]

so after 4 pm I am at 139.65

+Brady - 17.65

+Hernandez - 10.4



-QG

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I'm at 120 with Manningham, McCluster and Hernandez remaining, all around -4 or so. Hope that's enough

 

[Sinn Fein]

done with about 133...hope its enough

 

[JoeSteeler]

161.4 + jacobs (-8.30)+ Manningham (-9.10)

 

[a_troll00]

My squad has done quite well so far. Currently sitting at 158.4 with Brady (-0), Welker (-10.5), and Patriots DEF/ST (-13) left to go. It appears I'm going to go on further than I've ever gone in this contest.

 

[bro1ncos]

Sitting at 101.5 with Welker (-3.8) and McCluster (-5.1) to go. Not looking good unless the cut line is REAL low.

Sure could have used those 3 missed FG's from Akers.

 

[simey]

how many forte owners are out there, i cant imagine those rosters are doing that well?

i'm a forte owner. i also have steven jackson and beanie wells, and they didn't do well either today. fortunately nate washington, vincent jackson, nate burleson, and dez bryant all showed up for me. i've got around 168 points.

 

[apalmer]

131.05 with Brady (-44.95 ) and Hernandez (-2.4).