Guys, any good trade value charts online for Dynasty leagues? Must be around somewhere!
Looking for charts that value veteran players against each other? Or something like a rookie pick value chart?
This... speaking for myself of course. Know any good ones SSOG?
Nope. This was the big project we were working on in the DynastyRankings.net days, but it's kind of the white whale of dynasty leagues. Obviously all sorts of difficulties arising from different league settings (PPR? Non? Start 2 WRs? 3? Flex? TE Premium? Deep benches? 16-team league?). Beyond that, the biggest problem was creating trade values that were internally consistent when you started getting into multi-player years. A $20 might be worth a $10, and a $10 might be worth two $5s, but that doesn't mean the $20 was worth four $5s. We were working on creating some sort of dummy value to represent unbalanced player deals when the site went under. I think it's probably a solvable problem if you automate it a bit (i.e. create a formula to derive trade value from a set of rankings), though automation obviously produces slightly less optimal results. I tried building one manually, but it's just a crushing project to try to keep up with by hand, at least if you plan on doing it any justice (as opposed to dashing something off and calling it good). For FBGs I'm writing two weekly columns, updating rankings bi-weekly, and contributing to various other staff features during the season, and I would say that keeping a quality trade value chart was more work than all of that combined.
Maybe during the offseason if I feel ambitious I might take another whack at the problem, but dynasty really doesn't lend itself to charts and formulas like redraft does. Which is one of the big reasons why I love dynasty so much. Redraft is more like checkers- it's testable, it's solvable, it's more realistic to expect that optimal strategies can be found. Dynasty's more like chess. There are so many variables that there's not really anyone out there who can claim they have it all figured out. You can come up with best practices and rules of thumb, but that's about it.
I understand at appreciate what you are saying. In my excel sheet(s)
For the pre-draft, I put the auction values by ranking and compared with several different sites to get an average. So for example the top ranked player is worth 45, 2nd and 3rd 43 and the 10th one 36, 30th 23, etc. Which gave a good indication.
After that I collected as many dynasty rankings as possible and took the average for each player and then plugged them into its corresponding value. So Calvin got value 45 AJ and DEz 43, Lacy (#10) 36 and Garcon (#30) 23, etc.
This was a great "market value indication of their values going into the the auction draft (started the Dynasty this year).
The thing is, things change constantly and it's hard to keep on going through the same thing over and over again.
Even a daily updated ranking, with those average numbers attached to them would do fine. Of course they aren't completely accurate as difference between overall 1 and 2 could be anything from 0-5$, but at least fairly accurate.
I found a site that updates (at least claims) its ranking daily
http://www.dynastynerds.com/top-200-dynasty-rankings/ (hope its ok that I posted it), think I'll use that to my average ranking-value.
Just would love to have a place that did this for me. We do a lot of trades in our league (I love trades more than anything) and its very important for myself to get a clear picture of the feasibility of the trade.
Also think all rankings should be based on standard scoring with standard lineups (QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX) and then people who more advanced formulas have to keep that in mind. Basically target the masses.
Any daily/weekly (dynasty) rankings you could recommend?