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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (3 Viewers)

Wow

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Algeria ended their 28-year-old wait for a World Cup goal when Sofiane Feghouli converted that penalty.

Feghouli's goal was their first since their 1-1 draw against Northern Ireland when Djamel Zidane was on target in the 1986 tournament. They had since gone five World Cup games without a goal"

The following was tagged automatically - but I wanted to include the link to the match commentary anyway for those interested :)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2659250/Belgium-vs-Algeria-World-Cup-2014-LIVE-Follow-Group-H-opener-Belo-Horizonte-happens.html#ixzz34urR37dZ
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook"

-QG

 
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Watching on Univision stream and just now found out they did (are doing) a Spanish breaking bad remake.

Walter Blanco is Jeisenber.

Anyone know if its any good?

 
Joe Bryant said:
gianmarco said:
Joe Bryant said:
NewlyRetired said:
Joe Bryant said:
The Gator said:
gianmarco said:
Premier said:
http://screamer.deadspin.com/america-reacts-to-game-winner-against-ghana-1591737963/1591941752/+kylenw?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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That stuff gives me chills. Am I the only one that tears up with this kinda crap?
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Chills every time...
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Now you guys are just taunting me, right?
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You don't enjoy vids like those?I think they show why sports a great. Look at the KC crowd, that is awesome.
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I think it's honestly kind of odd the fascination soccer folks seem to have taking video of themselves watching games.

Sure, it's nice to see a bunch of happy people. But no where near "chills" or "tearing up".

People are serious about tearing up for these?

J
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Seriously? You don't think these exact same videos exist of fans watching football games or baseball games or other sports?
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Maybe they do. I've just never seen them referred to like soccer folks do. Seems like the futbolguys are more interested in taking video of fans watching fans than other sports are. Just an observation. :shrug:

J
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You know how many fan reaction vids are out there just for the Auburn-Alabama missed FG return?Eta: here, have fun

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=auburn%20alabama%20reactions&sm=1

 
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Norman Paperman said:
NewlyRetired said:
In the possession stat, does it include time out of bounds?

Like yesterday, every time Howard killed 30 seconds taking a free kick, did that effect our possession stat?
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I could be wrong, and it probably varies by stat source, but I think possession stats are based on number of completed passes.
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When you are watching a football match every once in a while you'll see flashed up on the screen a statistic showing how much "ball possession" each team has had. Opta explains how this statistic is computed:

[T]here are several data providers out there in the UK and across the world monitoring games, from TV companies themselves for live games, to specialists like Opta.

Each has their own method of working out possession. Some use calculations based on the data, but most use a chess clock approach where each team has a button which is hit when they are in possession. Some do this in the broadcast truck, others have analysts who call it out and inputters who hit the buttons.

Opta used this method originally, but the problem we found with a chess clock approach for time is that you are reliant on the person logging the data remembering to hit the button and the person doing it usually has other tasks to perform and other data to log.

Missing a couple of switches obviously skews the possession figures and its impossible to go back and change it. It may not sound much but one minute where the clock is wrong can affect the possession figures by two to three percentage points.

Opta now record possession in a football match by means of an automated calculation based on the number of passes that a team has in a game. We have two analysts, each monitoring one of the teams and they log each event in a game, totalling between 1600 and 2000 events per match.

Each of these events has a timecode plus an xy co-ordinate and the collection system is rigorously monitored by our team of checkers.

During the game, the passes for each team are totalled up and then each teams total is divided by the game total to produce a percentage figure which shows the percentage of the game that each team has accrued in possession of the ball.

For Opta "ball possession" means percentage of completed passes, and is not a measure of time, though Opta does claim that the two are very closely related.
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The Gator said:
Joe Bryant said:
That was a question I had. How is Klinsman viewed among the German fans?

And for US fans, how is he seen? Was his hiring thought of as a great hire?

J
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I think he's pretty overrated as a coach. Did nothing at Bayern, had a good run in 2006 with Germany, but his assistant Low(Germany's current manager) was the tactical guy behind that. So that's the extent of the hire for the USA team; a failed club manager and guy that can't manage a game.
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This always kills me. When Klinsmann was fired from Bayern there were 5 weeks to go in the season and they were in 3rd and only 3 points out of first. Bayern had made it to the Champions League quarterfinals and lost to eventual champions Barcelona. Bayern lost in the quarterfinals in the DFB Pokal (German Cup) to Leverkusen who made it to the finals. Those aren't typical Bayern results, but they aren't nothing. He did do something, and that is whyhe was let go. He had a different style and attitude on training and managing and "those in power" at Bayern disagreed with those tactics.
 
El Floppo said:
The Gator said:
El Floppo said:
btw... I've said it for years- Thomas Muller is a diving, embellishing ####tard. Pepe had every right to get in his face after that bull#### "oh my nose" theatrics when Pepe barely grazed his chin. of course there's "getting in his face" and 'getting in his face'.
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Now imagine it was Ronaldo....this thread would have been 10 pages longer all because of the "diving sissy boy" posts :lol:
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too true.

that Muller nonsense is the worst. and it seems like what gets most of the non-fan's panties the most bunched.... and I can't disagree. "diving" is much more nebulous, IMO- there aren't that many obvious no-contact dives in games, but there are a lot of guys riding tackles and/or going down with minimal contact to draw the foul (don't basketball players and Wider Receivers do this too?).

and again IMO, Ronaldo dives less than he's given credit for. He's getting kicked from minute 0 to minute 93- sometimes to avoid getting kicked, he's going to go down in a way that looks like a dive.
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I think I mentioned this before but I think what hurts the game is that these single decisions tend to swing the game towards one team. I don't have the stats but I'm pretty confident a red card or PK for one team typically gives them a much higher percentage to win the game. In most of the other sports that can only happen if it's one of the final plays of the games as there are typically so many plays/scoring plays that it's easier to overlook. I think they just need to do 2 things. 1. Implement replay/review on ALL pk and red card decisions and 2. Retroactively review tape and had out punishment for stuff like what Muller did. I think those two things would go a long way towards improving the perception of the sport for non-soccer fans and I think most of us who already are would not only live with the new rules but welcome them.

 
Mjolnirs said:
The Gator said:
Joe Bryant said:
That was a question I had. How is Klinsman viewed among the German fans?

And for US fans, how is he seen? Was his hiring thought of as a great hire?

J
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I think he's pretty overrated as a coach. Did nothing at Bayern, had a good run in 2006 with Germany, but his assistant Low(Germany's current manager) was the tactical guy behind that. So that's the extent of the hire for the USA team; a failed club manager and guy that can't manage a game.
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This always kills me. When Klinsmann was fired from Bayern there were 5 weeks to go in the season and they were in 3rd and only 3 points out of first. Bayern had made it to the Champions League quarterfinals and lost to eventual champions Barcelona. Bayern lost in the quarterfinals in the DFB Pokal (German Cup) to Leverkusen who made it to the finals. Those aren't typical Bayern results, but they aren't nothing. He did do something, and that is whyhe was let go. He had a different style and attitude on training and managing and "those in power" at Bayern disagreed with those tactics.
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Bayern is weird

 
AAABatteries said:
El Floppo said:
The Gator said:
El Floppo said:
btw... I've said it for years- Thomas Muller is a diving, embellishing ####tard. Pepe had every right to get in his face after that bull#### "oh my nose" theatrics when Pepe barely grazed his chin. of course there's "getting in his face" and 'getting in his face'.
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Now imagine it was Ronaldo....this thread would have been 10 pages longer all because of the "diving sissy boy" posts :lol:
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too true.

that Muller nonsense is the worst. and it seems like what gets most of the non-fan's panties the most bunched.... and I can't disagree. "diving" is much more nebulous, IMO- there aren't that many obvious no-contact dives in games, but there are a lot of guys riding tackles and/or going down with minimal contact to draw the foul (don't basketball players and Wider Receivers do this too?).

and again IMO, Ronaldo dives less than he's given credit for. He's getting kicked from minute 0 to minute 93- sometimes to avoid getting kicked, he's going to go down in a way that looks like a dive.
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I think I mentioned this before but I think what hurts the game is that these single decisions tend to swing the game towards one team. I don't have the stats but I'm pretty confident a red card or PK for one team typically gives them a much higher percentage to win the game. In most of the other sports that can only happen if it's one of the final plays of the games as there are typically so many plays/scoring plays that it's easier to overlook. I think they just need to do 2 things. 1. Implement replay/review on ALL pk and red card decisions and 2. Retroactively review tape and had out punishment for stuff like what Muller did. I think those two things would go a long way towards improving the perception of the sport for non-soccer fans and I think most of us who already are would not only live with the new rules but welcome them.
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FIFA thought the spray paint was incredibly radical and were afraid to use it.

I can't even imagine how long it would take them to adopt your logical suggestions.

 
B Maverick said:
down one and lukaku comes off?
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He had some health concerns leading up to the tournament so I assume that has something to do with it.

Tactically I thought Fellaini was the obvious sub to give them an aerial threat against this packed-in defense. And here he comes.

 
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Eephus said:
Mjolnirs said:
The Gator said:
Joe Bryant said:
That was a question I had. How is Klinsman viewed among the German fans?

And for US fans, how is he seen? Was his hiring thought of as a great hire?

J
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I think he's pretty overrated as a coach. Did nothing at Bayern, had a good run in 2006 with Germany, but his assistant Low(Germany's current manager) was the tactical guy behind that. So that's the extent of the hire for the USA team; a failed club manager and guy that can't manage a game.
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This always kills me. When Klinsmann was fired from Bayern there were 5 weeks to go in the season and they were in 3rd and only 3 points out of first. Bayern had made it to the Champions League quarterfinals and lost to eventual champions Barcelona. Bayern lost in the quarterfinals in the DFB Pokal (German Cup) to Leverkusen who made it to the finals. Those aren't typical Bayern results, but they aren't nothing. He did do something, and that is whyhe was let go. He had a different style and attitude on training and managing and "those in power" at Bayern disagreed with those tactics.
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Bayern is weird
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One of my favorite articles in the aftermath of that was Rumminegge complaining the Klinsmann asked for IPads for all the players where they could cut up video along with tactical assignments. "All Van Gaal needs is a few markers!" It's just a complaint that seems so silly today. I'll bet that Bayern bought tablets less than 18 months later.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
Spartans Rule said:
QuizGuy66 said:
Oh boy, Belgium in big big trouble as Algeria is like the Switzerland of Africa - they'll really park the bus I bet.

-QG
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They were pretty much parking the bus even before they scored. Now it will only get worse.
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:yes: - totally disagree with the ESPN announcers saying this will open things up.

Very much see a USA-Ghana scenario. The question is will Belgium have more patience than the Ghanaians.

-QG
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