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They're all the same. Must be binary. So, so strange.
I see where the are coming from. If Biden would have conceded and allowed Trump to remain in office the capitol riots would probably not have happened.Morning consult poll
27% of republicans say trump bears some responsibility for capitol riot
46% say Biden does
to be fair, I don’t think it’s tried and true republicans - it’s the group that has taken over the Republican Party
The farce is strong in that oneThe need to defend Trump at every turn is strong with you. Man
Is anyone surprised?Amazing. How anyone could trust Trump is beyond me. Mitch carried his polluted water through all his horrific bs and Trump just threw him to the wolves. Just like he did Pence.Any doubts about whether Trump is serious about burning the Republican Party down, gone.
Thanks for protecting me, Mitch. Now watch while I kill the party you tried to hide behind the shield of my exoneration.
It is sociopathic.
Did you see his letter he put out. He knows he’s ####ed.I'd been wondering if Biden would call off the IRS audit of Trump at long last, so he could release the tax returns himself. It's downright Kafkaesque for Trump to be persecuted by the IRS for five years(!) when all he wanted to do was get these documents released to the public and clear his name.
I bet he's pleased that the Supreme Court has ruled we don't have to wait until the audit is done now.
Didn't see that, but I did read that the NY AG brought a band of forensic accounting killers to help "follow the money".Did you see his letter he put out. He knows he’s ####ed.
I don’t think Biden runs for a 2nd term, but I hope he does and gets at least 76 million votes which would be the most for a sitting president, by far.Did you see his letter he put out. He knows he’s ####ed.
He’s for sure running again. The only way he stays out of jail is to drag out the SDNY prosecution into appeals and hopefully win the White House.Didn't see that, but I did read that the NY AG brought a band of forensic accounting killers to help "follow the money".
This is what I've been saying. He's guilty and he's going to try and duck into the White House to avoid prosecution. If they just leave it alone, he might not run. That's a quid pro quo that'll benefit everybody. I couldn't care less if this guy spends his last years grifting and golfing and fancy free, just keep him away from the presidency.He’s for sure running again. The only way he stays out of jail is to drag out the SDNY prosecution into appeals and hopefully win the White House.
One would think that enough dirt would be put out in open court that even if he did run again, he'd lose a GOP primary. But who are we kidding... he'd just claim it's all fake and lies and they are all out to get him and he'd still get 50% of primary voters to pull the lever for him.This is what I've been saying. He's guilty and he's going to try and duck into the White House to avoid prosecution. If they just leave it alone, he might not run. That's a quid pro quo that'll benefit everybody. I couldn't care less if this guy spends his last years grifting and golfing and fancy free, just keep him away from the presidency.
I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think that can be the analysis that wins the day. This guy almost certainly defrauded the state of NY to the tune of a hundred mil or more. The rule of law still matters in a democratic society, no matter how hard Donald has tried to erode it.This is what I've been saying. He's guilty and he's going to try and duck into the White House to avoid prosecution. If they just leave it alone, he might not run. That's a quid pro quo that'll benefit everybody. I couldn't care less if this guy spends his last years grifting and golfing and fancy free, just keep him away from the presidency.
You'd be surprised how much things can change in three months, never mind three years. If something catastrophic happens between now and then, he might just win. Right now, they're just printing money at the Fed. What happens if that goes awry and we see markets and the economy hit the skids? What if COVID mutates and takes off in a more virulent, passable strain, etc.?Besides, he won’t win in 2024 anyway. He got crushed last year.
The rule of law is pliable and prosecutors have discretion regarding which cases they choose to pursue. The one major flaw in my analysis is what sort of certainty could they have that he wouldn't run if they didn't prosecute him? Probably none, so my argument is really moot.I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think that can be the analysis that wins the day. This guy almost certainly defrauded the state of NY to the tune of a hundred mil or more. The rule of law still matters in a democratic society, no matter how hard Donald has tried to erode it.
There’s a lot that can happen between now and then.He’s for sure running again. The only way he stays out of jail is to drag out the SDNY prosecution into appeals and hopefully win the White House.
I dont understand how anyone can keep believing that everything is a “witch hunt” with everything that has happened in the last 4 years, let alone the Republican Party allowing him to run again. The allegations of sexual assault coupled with his p grabbing statements coupled with the extramarital affairs and hush money payments plus his friendship with a known child trafficker should be enough to disqualify. His campaign contacts with Russia coupled with the damning release of stolen info coupled with inaction on bounties and a major cyber breech we still haven’t contained should be enough to disqualify. His 2 time impeachment should disqualify. His halting of aid to Ukraine to get an announcement of an investigation of a political rival (and subsequent release of funds when caught) is enough. His courting of militias. The money he has directed to his businesses. Arms sales to the Middle East. In love with North Korean dictator (his words, not mine.) Covid inaction. Insurrection.This is what I've been saying. He's guilty and he's going to try and duck into the White House to avoid prosecution. If they just leave it alone, he might not run. That's a quid pro quo that'll benefit everybody. I couldn't care less if this guy spends his last years grifting and golfing and fancy free, just keep him away from the presidency.
Yes. The idea that if we just let Trump get away with whatever he wants, he'll stop doing crimes and instead quietly retreat from public life ... doesn't have a great track record.The rule of law is pliable and prosecutors have discretion regarding which cases they choose to pursue. The one major flaw in my analysis is what sort of certainty could they have that he wouldn't run if they didn't prosecute him? Probably none, so my argument is really moot.
Agreed. It wasn't a very good solution. Wishful thinking on my part, and I realized it soon after I typed it. We had a kid on campus get accused of rape but the University had bungled the investigation. In a gentleman's agreement, they agreed not to have it follow his record and he was to leave the University. Case officially closed.Yes. The idea that if we just let Trump get away with whatever he wants, he'll stop doing crimes and instead quietly retreat from public life ... doesn't have a great track record.
An explicit plea bargain where he admits to his crimes, pleads guilty, and avoids prison in return for an agreement not to run again could be on the table.
But unilateral disarmament without an explicit bargain should not be.
Is that legal in a plea bargain? What rights are you allowed to sign away in such a deal?An explicit plea bargain where he admits to his crimes, pleads guilty, and avoids prison in return for an agreement not to run again could be on the table.
They could put that in a plea agreement only to have Trump ignore it and keep it tied up in court while he runs again. Does anyone think the GOP would do anything to stop him? He’s a private citizen, treat him like one and go aggressively down whatever path the evidence takes you. Probably won’t matter anyway as I’m sure he’s made sealed pardons that we will find out about once him and his family are charged.Is that legal in a plea bargain? What rights are you allowed to sign away in such a deal?
I don't know, maybe @Zow can comment, but I think there's generally a lot of leeway in what can be a condition of probation (as part of a voluntary plea agreement).Is that legal in a plea bargain? What rights are you allowed to sign away in such a deal?
He's going to run again, or at least announce that he is and start fundraising. Donors both large and small have shown him how easily they can be fleeced, and that superpac money that can be spent for just about anything without reporting requirements is a dream come true. I doubt he wants to win, but free money is just too much to pass up.This is what I've been saying. He's guilty and he's going to try and duck into the White House to avoid prosecution. If they just leave it alone, he might not run. That's a quid pro quo that'll benefit everybody. I couldn't care less if this guy spends his last years grifting and golfing and fancy free, just keep him away from the presidency.He’s for sure running again. The only way he stays out of jail is to drag out the SDNY prosecution into appeals and hopefully win the White House.
This too.He's going to run again, or at least announce that he is and start fundraising. Donors both large and small have shown him how easily they can be fleeced, and that superpac money that can be spent for just about anything without reporting requirements is a dream come true. I doubt he wants to win, but free money is just too much to pass up.
I think this is the family business now.He's going to run again, or at least announce that he is and start fundraising. Donors both large and small have shown him how easily they can be fleeced, and that superpac money that can be spent for just about anything without reporting requirements is a dream come true. I doubt he wants to win, but free money is just too much to pass up.
Not “the other guy.” Mostly just Trump."People who donate to my candidate are grass roots supporters of a noble cause! People who support the other guy are cultists getting fleeced by a grifter!"
Generally, yes, there is a lot of leeway to the parties (state and defendant). Very commonly things like "no alcohol," "no contact with person X," "must obtain a high school diploma or GED," "must take medications as prescribed," "donation to charity X" etc. are found in plea agreements whereas they may be terms a sentencing judge likely wouldn't or can't impose after sentencing.I don't know, maybe @Zow can comment, but I think there's generally a lot of leeway in what can be a condition of probation (as part of a voluntary plea agreement).
So those signs, once placed in the right of way or a neutral ground are still private property? I always figured putting them in a public place like that was essentially abandoned property.However, I did have a case where my client was accused of stealing a local candidate's political signs becausethe client found out that the candidate was not really a true Trump supporter even thought he had himself out to be. The matter was merely a misdemeanor theft matter
Haha well in this particular instance the particular city where this occurred has an ordinance that permits candidates to put up campaign signs in certain places around the city (I believe the ordinance also required them to take them down by a certain point or be subject to a fine). So, here, there is a pretty clear expectation of privacy/that they won't be stolen. Further, there were some extranneous factors at play that I cannot get into here that probably made the state's case stronger.So those signs, once placed in the right of way or a neutral ground are still private property? I always figured putting them in a public place like that was essentially abandoned property.
In HS my buddy had a 1977 Malibu station wagon. That thing was a tank. We had a great time mowing down, uhhh, a lot of signs. I hope the statute of limitations has run on that. We may have been the most prolific political sign murderers in history.