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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (2 Viewers)

Probably just a production/editing error...

From a previous episode Zeke says, "Bring her out, Alex!"

And from last night's episode: "Bring her out!"

Also, I thought Alex actually did bring Kate out when we first saw the meeting and last night she stayed to talk to Michael.
I thought he said Alex last night as well.
Seemed like they tried to cut it out. I think you could still hear the x sound.I don't think it's a big deal, but it confirms that the writers of this show are definitely writingas they go, and don't have some master plan from day 1 that they have been following.
Of course they are. You think they have every episode penned out in advance?I'm sure there's some large story arc they're using, and they fill it all in with side-stories as time goes on.
Someone was vehemently arguing against me on this a while back. Just pointing it out. :shrug:
 
Probably just a production/editing error...

From a previous episode Zeke says, "Bring her out, Alex!"

And from last night's episode: "Bring her out!"

Also, I thought Alex actually did bring Kate out when we first saw the meeting and last night she stayed to talk to Michael.
I thought that, too.
Yeah, I don't remember him saying "Alex" during the original meeting, but in the recap show they played a few weeks ago, they made it clear that he called her by name and I assumed it was another "change". I believe we've seen minor changes in past scenes before - such as when Boone originally talked on the radio in the plane, you couldn't make out what the response was, but later when they introduced the group from the tail section, the replay of that scene was clearer and you could hear "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815". So, there's a little inconsistency there. I guess they needed to go back and modify it some to expand the plot. It's all good. :thumbup:
I heard "bring her out Alex" every time.
 
Probably just a production/editing error...

From a previous episode Zeke says, "Bring her out, Alex!"

And from last night's episode: "Bring her out!"

Also, I thought Alex actually did bring Kate out when we first saw the meeting and last night she stayed to talk to Michael.
I thought that, too.
Yeah, I don't remember him saying "Alex" during the original meeting, but in the recap show they played a few weeks ago, they made it clear that he called her by name and I assumed it was another "change". I believe we've seen minor changes in past scenes before - such as when Boone originally talked on the radio in the plane, you couldn't make out what the response was, but later when they introduced the group from the tail section, the replay of that scene was clearer and you could hear "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815". So, there's a little inconsistency there. I guess they needed to go back and modify it some to expand the plot. It's all good. :thumbup:
I heard "bring her out Alex" every time.
Exactly. I think I have both episodes Tivo'd so just for fun, I will check them both out. I don't think there was any change except that in one scene Zeke was right there and in another he was not in the scene, so maybe it was a little quieter.I think that the whole "No, we are the survivors of the Flight 815" is another one that people think changed. I don't think it did at all. When we heard Bernard say it, it was clear because he said it. There was static when Boone heard it and people took there own interpretations. I know when I first heard it, I actually thought it was "There were no survivors on Flight 815", but it never changed.

 
Anybody notice how dirty Zeke was when speaking wth Jack in the jungle and the weird lighting that was just on his eyes, and then back at the camp he was clean...continuity error?

 
Walt looks a lot bigger.  Love to see how they explain that.  But they lkely won't.
I didn't think he looked any different.Why would they need to explain it anyway?
I thought the timeline of the show had only been a few months since the crash (or whatever) but Walt had grown a year +. Am I wrong?
 
Walt looks a lot bigger.  Love to see how they explain that.  But they lkely won't.
I didn't think he looked any different.Why would they need to explain it anyway?
I thought the timeline of the show had only been a few months since the crash (or whatever) but Walt had grown a year +. Am I wrong?
You do realize this is just a TV show right?
 
Walt looks a lot bigger.  Love to see how they explain that.  But they lkely won't.
I didn't think he looked any different.Why would they need to explain it anyway?
I thought the timeline of the show had only been a few months since the crash (or whatever) but Walt had grown a year +. Am I wrong?
You do realize this is just a TV show right?
:goodposting: Why even bother explaining it? He grew because he is a young kid, I don't think the writers think it matters to the plot, so no need to discuss it.

At least in the previews it looks like we get the monster back in the action.

 
Sawyer bonding with Jack near the end of the season is becoming a trend. :D
Bonding? Or some sort of ego/competitive thing? Since Sawyer thought Jack and Kate got it on during their journey, he just had to let Jack know he banged AL. That "closest thing to a friend" was just another of Sawyers sarcasms.
I don't think so. I think it came from the heart -- what heart Sawyer has. Last season, it was Sawyer telling Jack about his meeting with his father. That was his parting "gift" if you will. This season, he's telling Jack about nailing Ana-Lucia. Why? Well he has to tell somebody and like Sawyer said Jack's the closest thing he has to a friend (other than Kate who he obviously isn't going to tell this story to). For as much as Sawyer likes being hated and being the outcast I think he also wants to gain Jack's approval because Jack represents many of the things Sawyer isn't and could never attain.
Sawyer can be viewed as the moral center of the story. The losties have consistently used their guns on themselves (AL, Libby, Shannon) or used them against the will of the group (Charlie killing Ethan before they could get info). When he took all the guns and declared himself sheriff, no one got hurt. Now the guns return and the losties seem to be heading for a battle with the others which will probably lead to them again using the guns on themselves, especially because of Michael's turn. He confesses to Jack because he is the reason AL and Libby died--he let her have a gun--and seeks absolution. Unlike Jack's knee-jerk response to problems, Kate's need for relevancy, Locke's shifting faith, or Eko's self-involved missions, the results of Sawyer's actions are always correct and moral. He also consistently responds to ethical pleas.
Yeah, like I say, Sawyer is my favorite character. Reminds me of someone I know.
 
I don't want to get into the whole "numbers from the log" debate. But it's obviously upticking.

The message from Rousseau that Sayid heard also had a somewhat random string of numbers that upticked with each broadcast as well.

Rousseau input her distress call, over-writing the initial broadcast of the hatch numbers which Mooney (IRRC) and the guy in the looney bin with Hurley heard while at sea.

Is it possible that those two strings of numbers are related or linked somehow?

 
Probably just a production/editing error...

From a previous episode Zeke says, "Bring her out, Alex!"

And from last night's episode: "Bring her out!"

Also, I thought Alex actually did bring Kate out when we first saw the meeting and last night she stayed to talk to Michael.
I thought that, too.
He said Alex last night too. She just didn't want to go. She sent the other guy.
 
Walt looks a lot bigger.  Love to see how they explain that.  But they lkely won't.
I didn't think he looked any different.Why would they need to explain it anyway?
I thought the timeline of the show had only been a few months since the crash (or whatever) but Walt had grown a year +. Am I wrong?
You're not wrong. You're just being ridiculous.
 
The guy who took the blood from Michael said, "See you in the funny pages." Why does that sound familiar to me? Did someone else on the show say this before?

 
The guy who took the blood from Michael said, "See you in the funny pages." Why does that sound familiar to me? Did someone else on the show say this before?
Are you thinking of Walt's comic book?
 
The guy who took the blood from Michael said, "See you in the funny pages." Why does that sound familiar to me? Did someone else on the show say this before?
I thought the same thing. I said to my wife that sounds like something Sawyer said before.
 
The guy who took the blood from Michael said, "See you in the funny pages." Why does that sound familiar to me? Did someone else on the show say this before?
I thought the same thing. I said to my wife that sounds like something Sawyer said before.
according to losthatch.com, has never been used before (keyword search:"funny"):
Search returned 23 lines.

Keyword exact match found 24 times.

S1E9 Boone Funny. Someone at the caves built a golf course.

S1E14 Walt I picked the Bronze Kahuku. It's funny. You wanna see?

S1E14 Walt I mean, it doesn't look funny, just the name.

S1E16 Sawyer Funny. Now we know daddy's got to be around here. Here piggy, piggy, piggy.

S1E16 Kate Hey, Sawyer, put it down. That's not funny.

S1E16 Kate Not funny.

S1E16 Jack Trying to be funny?

S1E19 Jack Do you smell anything funny? Brain tumors bring on phantom smells, maybe like something burning.

S1E19 Boone She was my nanny. Theresa. She was my nanny. My mother wasn't around much. I needed someone to take it out on. My bedroom was at the top of this huge flight of stairs, and I would sit in bed all day calling her on the intercom. One day she took a bad step... broke her neck. I was 6. Listen, what the hell is so funny?

S1E19 Sawyer Har, har, very funny.

S1E22 Tom Funny how things turn out, huh?

S1E23 Calderwood You think this is funny, James? James Ford, assault, wire fraud, identity theft, bank fraud, telemarketing fraud...

S1E24 Locke I always got nailed on the funny bone. Bzzzt!

S2E2 Claire You always try to be funny when you don't want to answer a question.

S2E2 Charlie Try to be funny?

S2E3 Locke That's funny. I'm sorry if I ruined your meeting.

S2E3 Anthony John, I know you like to drive through my neighborhood. And I know that every now and then you like to park outside my house. Now, I thought it might all stop when I moved, but uh here you are. Now, I admit at first I thought it was funny, but now it's just annoying. So how about you tell me what the hell it is you want.

S2E5 Ana-Lucia Funny. What about you?

S2E5 Sawyer Funny. Let's go. What are we waiting for?

S2E12 Locke It's funny, you didn't answer the question.

S2E12 Charlie Don't say that! It's a good one. I feel like this might be the one. Alright, listen to this, okay. [singing] Funny now, you finally see me standing here. Funny now, I'm crying in the rain. All alone, I try to be invincible. Together now, [Liam Sing Harmony] we can be saved. [Talking] Nice, man.

S2E18 A.K.A. Henry Gale I crawled through your vents and I stood at your computer as the alarm beeped. And you know what happened? The timer went all the way down to zero, and then some funny red pictures flipped up in its place. They looked like hieroglyphics, but I'm no expert. And then things got real interesting. There was a loud clunking and a hum like a magnet... a big magnet. It was really very frightening. And you know what happened next? Nothing happened, John. Nothing happened at all. Your timer just flipped back to 108. I never entered the numbers. I never pressed the button.

S2E19 Locke Oh, that's funny.
 
Maybe it's just me, but the one big unanswered question from last night's episode is... Why did Michael kill Anna Lucia? Ms. Clue never asked him to or instructed him that AL had to die. All Michael had to do was bring back Henry, Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley.

Really, IMO, all of Michael's actions have been completely irrational and unrealistic.

First, why was he so belligerant with the Others? I understand the "angry father wanting his son back" routine... but I would think cooperating and a civil tone might have gotten him a lot further than all the yelling and resistance he put up. I honestly think that most rational people would have realized that and played that type of situation much differently.

Second, why did Micheal feel like he had to hide the truth from the rest of the survivors and why kill AL? If it was me, I'd let everyone in on the truth, ask them to release Henry and then explain that he needed the four people to go back with him. I think the Losties would have done all that to help Michael get his son back.

I understand they are writing the story for drama, so making people act completely rational doesn't exactly make for an interesting story. But some of this just doesn't make much sense to me. I'm looking forward to the season finale to see if hopefully they address some of this better.
Haha....Yea. "Let's get rid of our only leverage and then take 5 people into a suicide mission simply because they made me promise to only bring 5 people back."Right. Sounds like something they would all go along with.

 
For crying out loud.

The ACTOR playing Walt is a kid. He's going to grow up a little bit.

The ACTOR playing Hurley is just a big "dude". He isn't going to lose any weight during the filming, unless they start paying him Tom Hanks-type money (ala "Castaway").

And god forbid if the scenes involving Zeke during the showdown last year and last night at the camp were filmed at different times. Maybe he actually showerred (in real life, I mean).

I don't think any differences in their appearances would matter to the storyline. So can we please let these issues go?

Now back to the "was it a circle or question mark or "why do the washer and dryer seem newer than everything else" questions? You know, the other IMPORTANT stuff.

:lmao: :lmao:

 
Do you think they'll ever explain why the doctor looks like the guy from Party of Five?
Great question!Or why Locke was in a wheelchair. I mean, he was walking fine when he was on Alias.

 
Maybe it's just me, but the one big unanswered question from last night's episode is... Why did Michael kill Anna Lucia?  Ms. Clue never asked him to or instructed him that AL had to die.  All Michael had to do was bring back Henry, Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley.

Really, IMO, all of Michael's actions have been completely irrational and unrealistic.

First, why was he so belligerant with the Others?  I understand the "angry father wanting his son back" routine... but I would think cooperating and a civil tone might have gotten him a lot further than all the yelling and resistance he put up.  I honestly think that most rational people would have realized that and played that type of situation much differently.

Second, why did Micheal feel like he had to hide the truth from the rest of the survivors and why kill AL?  If it was me, I'd let everyone in on the truth, ask them to release Henry and then explain that he needed the four people to go back with him.  I think the Losties would have done all that to help Michael get his son back.

I understand they are writing the story for drama, so making people act completely rational doesn't exactly make for an interesting story.  But some of this just doesn't make much sense to me.  I'm looking forward to the season finale to see if hopefully they address some of this better.
Haha....Yea. "Let's get rid of our only leverage and then take 5 people into a suicide mission simply because they made me promise to only bring 5 people back."Right. Sounds like something they would all go along with.
That's not entirely true tho...First off - they already proved that they are willing to part with Henry in exhange for one of their own... remember Jack and Kate were off to find the others and try to work a deal for Micheal or Walt for Henry. So if Michael comes to them and says, we can trade Henry for Walt, I gotta think Jack and the rest of them are going to go for it - that was their intention all along.

Second, they have been itching for a fight with the Others for a while now. If Michael explained the situation I'm sure they would have come up with some kind of a plan for the ones on the list to go in while the rest of them followed behind ready for a fight.

And again... it still doesn't at all explain why Michael felt like he had to kill Anna Lucia. It doesn't appear that it was demanded by the Others, like many people theorized.

 
Do you think they'll ever explain why the doctor looks like the guy from Party of Five?
Great question!Or why Locke was in a wheelchair. I mean, he was walking fine when he was on Alias.
I think it is government conspiracy. When he was on the West Wing he was always down in the situation room with the President. :ph34r:
 
Here's a question: Did Michael know Hurley's first name? I don't recall whether he did or not. But tonight he called him Hugo and saw Hurley's first name on the list he was given. Assuming this isn't just a continuity error, perhaps it could be a sign that Hurley may suspect Michael's up to something.
Nah... Hurley's too much of a simpleton. He wants to kill the dude that he thinks is responsible for Libby's death. He doesn't suspect Michael. ...just Sayed and Jack do.
I got the impression that Echo may know or suspect something.
 
Probably just a production/editing error...

From a previous episode Zeke says, "Bring her out, Alex!"

And from last night's episode: "Bring her out!"

Also, I thought Alex actually did bring Kate out when we first saw the meeting and last night she stayed to talk to Michael.
I noticed this too.I was going to go back and check my recording from the previous episode, but then I realized I had erased it. :doh:

 
And again... it still doesn't at all explain why Michael felt like he had to kill Anna Lucia. It doesn't appear that it was demanded by the Others, like many people theorized.
I think he still bore a little bit of a grudge against her. He knew he was probably going to have to kill someone to spring Henry, and when the opportunity came he took it. Libby was just an accident.
 
How are people still trying to figure out why Michael killed Ana? Do you need every detail spelled out to you like a 5 year old? He shot her because he saw the only opportunity to get half of his mission accomplished. He has no relationship with her, he has been tied and bound to a stump for a week, he is losing his mind, and he wants to get Walt back. I'm sure the fact that she is a b**** made it a little easier, but it was clear at the time and still clear now, he didn't want to do it, he was scared, and it was simply a means to his desired end. Playing the only hand that he thinks will safely get his son back....even if he is BATSHAT CRAZY for thinking the Others will honor their promise.

Now seriously.....why are the monitor's in the Pearl Hatch not plasma flat panels? That's stupid.

 
Do you think they'll ever explain why the doctor looks like the guy from Party of Five?
Great question!Or why Locke was in a wheelchair. I mean, he was walking fine when he was on Alias.
Or how those 2 guys from Oz got out of prison.
Hmm, Locke walked on Alias and was in a wheelchair . . . Michael was in a wheelchair in Oz, and now walks . . . .
 
Maybe it's just me, but the one big unanswered question from last night's episode is... Why did Michael kill Anna Lucia?  Ms. Clue never asked him to or instructed him that AL had to die.  All Michael had to do was bring back Henry, Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley.

Really, IMO, all of Michael's actions have been completely irrational and unrealistic.

First, why was he so belligerant with the Others?  I understand the "angry father wanting his son back" routine... but I would think cooperating and a civil tone might have gotten him a lot further than all the yelling and resistance he put up.  I honestly think that most rational people would have realized that and played that type of situation much differently.

Second, why did Micheal feel like he had to hide the truth from the rest of the survivors and why kill AL?  If it was me, I'd let everyone in on the truth, ask them to release Henry and then explain that he needed the four people to go back with him.  I think the Losties would have done all that to help Michael get his son back.

I understand they are writing the story for drama, so making people act completely rational doesn't exactly make for an interesting story.  But some of this just doesn't make much sense to me.  I'm looking forward to the season finale to see if hopefully they address some of this better.
Haha....Yea. "Let's get rid of our only leverage and then take 5 people into a suicide mission simply because they made me promise to only bring 5 people back."Right. Sounds like something they would all go along with.
That's not entirely true tho...First off - they already proved that they are willing to part with Henry in exhange for one of their own... remember Jack and Kate were off to find the others and try to work a deal for Micheal or Walt for Henry. So if Michael comes to them and says, we can trade Henry for Walt, I gotta think Jack and the rest of them are going to go for it - that was their intention all along.

Second, they have been itching for a fight with the Others for a while now. If Michael explained the situation I'm sure they would have come up with some kind of a plan for the ones on the list to go in while the rest of them followed behind ready for a fight.

And again... it still doesn't at all explain why Michael felt like he had to kill Anna Lucia. It doesn't appear that it was demanded by the Others, like many people theorized.
Right, they would be willing to do a 1 on 1 trade, no problem. But you think they would walk into a trap knowing that the Others requested only 4 of them and they had their exact first and last names?I d agree with you that they could have set up some sort of plan that the rest was there somewhere. But Im sure the Other have planned for that too.

But no way would Jack go along with it if he knew that was exactly what THEY requested. Out of respect for Michael, he will go along with the ppan now because he thought it was a strategy thing and Michael's opinion that it was the best strategy to get Walt. If he knew about the list and their requests..no way.

As for AL.....How else was Michael going to free Henry? AL was not going to just let him open theroom and let him go. He clearly didnt want to do it ("Im Sorry") but he reacted fast after hearing Henry was in the room.

 
How are people still trying to figure out why Michael killed Ana? Do you need every detail spelled out to you like a 5 year old? He shot her because he saw the only opportunity to get half of his mission accomplished. He has no relationship with her, he has been tied and bound to a stump for a week, he is losing his mind, and he wants to get Walt back. I'm sure the fact that she is a b**** made it a little easier, but it was clear at the time and still clear now, he didn't want to do it, he was scared, and it was simply a means to his desired end. Playing the only hand that he thinks will safely get his son back....even if he is BATSHAT CRAZY for thinking the Others will honor their promise.

Now seriously.....why are the monitor's in the Pearl Hatch not plasma flat panels? That's stupid.
:goodposting: I agree that Michael felt he had to kill Anna. Before it didn't make sense to me, but until last night we didn't know that the Others wanted Henry and 4 survivors. Getting the 4 survivors would have been impossible if he just locked Anna up and grabbed Henry. At that point Michael = Henry and they can't trust him at all.

The only other out Michael had was to come clean and try and set a trap like they did for him. Whether or not Walt has turned, the Others set Michael up with the info on the computer because they were waiting for him right on the N path he was taking.

 
Probably just a production/editing error...

From a previous episode Zeke says, "Bring her out, Alex!"

And from last night's episode: "Bring her out!"

Also, I thought Alex actually did bring Kate out when we first saw the meeting and last night she stayed to talk to Michael.
I noticed this too.I was going to go back and check my recording from the previous episode, but then I realized I had erased it. :doh:
I will have to watch this episode again but last night he said "bring her out Alex" Then Alex asked the guy to do it.
 
And again... it still doesn't at all explain why Michael felt like he had to kill Anna Lucia. It doesn't appear that it was demanded by the Others, like many people theorized.
He had to free Henry, that was a stipulation from Ms. Clue.In order for Henry to escape, there would have to have been a struggle. Ana Lucia was guarding him. She had a gun. He would have killed her to escape.

 
And again... it still doesn't at all explain why Michael felt like he had to kill Anna Lucia.  It doesn't appear that it was demanded by the Others, like many people theorized.
He had to free Henry, that was a stipulation from Ms. Clue.In order for Henry to escape, there would have to have been a struggle. Ana Lucia was guarding him. She had a gun. He would have killed her to escape.
Not quite. Anna had already given him the gun when he told her that he would cap Henry for her. At that point, he could have easily got Anna at gun point to give him Henry. The problem is that at that point if Anna lives (according to Michael's thoughts) then he won't be able to get the 4 survivors that Ms. Clue also asked for to come with him.
 
And again... it still doesn't at all explain why Michael felt like he had to kill Anna Lucia.  It doesn't appear that it was demanded by the Others, like many people theorized.
He had to free Henry, that was a stipulation from Ms. Clue.In order for Henry to escape, there would have to have been a struggle. Ana Lucia was guarding him. She had a gun. He would have killed her to escape.
Not quite. Anna had already given him the gun when he told her that he would cap Henry for her. At that point, he could have easily got Anna at gun point to give him Henry. The problem is that at that point if Anna lives (according to Michael's thoughts) then he won't be able to get the 4 survivors that Ms. Clue also asked for to come with him.
What do you mean "not quite"? Michael had to stage Henry's escape. Stop it.

 
Wait a minute......

Jack saw his dad.

Hurley saw his "friend"

Kate saw the horse.

Sawyer has also seen the horse.

Has anyone else that is still alive "seen" things from their past on the Island? Not counting dream sequences.

Sayid saw Walt, or at least he told Shannon he did, but perhaps that was all Walt "appearing where he shouldn't".

I'm trying to think if anyone else has had these situations presented. Now maybe Sawyer is a stretch because he saw the horse while with Kate, but I'm starting to think there may be a connection here. Also...was there any thing else that these characters have "seen"?

I can't think of anyone else chasing something from their past in the woods. Curious that these are the four the Others want.

Anybody game for examining this issue, or should we default back to the Maytag models, birth control mysteries, and grammatical landscaping errors?

 
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