General Malaise
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*** Official Road to the 2020 Belmont Stakes * * * MAXFIELD OUT (1 Viewer)
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Horse like Maxfield that circled the field in the Breeder's Cup Futurity might like to sit and watch that. Hope he gets back.
wikkidpissah
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Still dont think Charlatan is a classic distance horse. He almost lost his stride - the smoothest and most deceptively powerful i've seen in quite a while - today but, when he changed leads just after the quarter pole, i literally laughed with delight. Nadal may be a classic horse, but keeps finding reasons to almost rate which worries me in traffic. I'm gonna stick with Tiz as my Derby horse for now, but it would have been a hella race in Churchill today.
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the rover
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I got the giant-hearted horse at even money on TVG. Put $100 on him, $100 on Charlatan and $150 on Nadal, some on TVG and some on Bovada. Still not exactly sure what the deal with the Nadal bet is. Bovada had it at 5/2, it went off at 1/5, and they paid it at -120.
Since it's September, I'm still favoring Maxfield for the Derby.
the rover
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That choppy little gait that got Charlatan in first out of the gate is awfully weird looking. When he changed leads it looked a hell of a lot more natural.
General Malaise
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How did you find that on TVG? I looked all over a d couldn't find a way to play it there. Had to fund the site OTB recommended and there, felt lucky to get -150 on Secretariat. Ugh.....
otb_lifer
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i was once very high on this one eyed, nutless wonder ... dunno wtf he pulled out his ### yesterday, as he's been rank dog#### when i've needed him previously ... but credit to the sum#####, he gets a Derby gate if they stay up.
Raffa had much more pressure to actually move, unlike Charly ... that div 2 gig had legit stakes speed, and Raffa turned it back - his win was just as impressive, all things considered - King G and Wells Bayou are both G2 winners their last out - Charly had no such company, and really ran no more than a paid workout ... as i said in my runup, he didn't need his "A" game for this lot - we didn't see him fully uncorked, as he didn't need to be.
now, this walk home vs Derby timber, on the heels of his incredibly gritty Rebel, give me pause to consider Raffa as now being on the Charly/Tiz tier - he's not particularly wowing anybody, but he's a cotdamn tenacious cat ... bang for the buck, he'll be a bargain price for the KD if we all make it in one piece.
King G showed the #### up! i was not a believer in a Tampa speed freak translating away from Florida, but credit to these connections ... they iced him since that win some two months ago ... plan was to sit on his 100 points, and just train for Churchill - took a ton of heat, but the horse responded - his tactical juice is gonna be a huge factor in the big one.
Baffert has four months to school this beast, and the natural maturity will assist in spades ... these issues you point out could've hampered him in that 20 horse stampede, especially considering he'd finally see some pressure - the big question now with Charly is just that - how does he respond? we know Raffa has that resiliency, but Charly has just been put in the gate and pointed to the finish line - he's certainly looking like the rawest natural powerhouse of this crop - but those tight quarters, with legit graded speed on his ###, might shake out a different result ... but, ferchrissakes, his abilty can more than make up some errors - again, 4 months for Baffert to work. he needs polish, bit that shine is quantum already.
we all know what a goofball Tiz can be - hell, Churchill just might be his first time back in front of a crowd, and an enormous (150k) crowd at that ... who knows if he spooks the #### out - we've seen it before.
Raffa seems the steadiest and least facacta of the bunch as of this morning ... he's earned the respect, but, man are there some titans this year. easily the best crop since '07, and, had we not had this Covid break, they may have proven better.
hipefully they run a virtual Preakness to help ya rectify that - man, Affirmed and War Admiral were chasing butterflys
i was on hiatus, and did not plan on being around this bored for this annual Derby thread ... then i saw that freak dust 'em in that Keeneland Futurity, and, well ... here we are - check that first post.
he is that good - and i agree, if he works back to 100%, he'll most likely take my money as key horse, and a straight win bet won't be out the question if he drifts up to anything over 5-1 ... but if he's in the KD gate it'll be due to him excelling in lead up preps, 'cuz he has zero pts atm - he's on the backburner now in the public's eye, but that first race back is gonna remind folks why this cat inspired threads to be created.
rockaction
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I finally can follow what the #### you're saying, including and up to wikkid. This is a revelation. Morning your time, 3:48 PST here. Or whatever abbreviation they use. All I know is...I understand what the deal is in here. 4 yrs. old, Raffa the horse named Nadal, oh, the whole lot of it.
Glory be to God.
Glory be to God.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
just wait 'til wik starts schooling on fetlocks and pasterns ... might even be a tale (or ten) from the breeding shed.
otb_lifer
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my 'capping podner in Jersey uses TVG, and had same - could not find it offered ... he also threw a couple shekels at the offshore - cashed a nice big one (he loves Citation), reached all the way down to the tri
wikkidpissah
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Citation, Citation, Citation - that's all i heard as a kid, so i think i did a resentment blockout on that. Arcaro's fave and handy at any distance from what i hear. also got the trip. Affirmed looked to be getting the trip, and his lack of fire (the least likely thing he'd do) attracts my ire at sims. Didn't like Justy getting no try at the front either
no schooling to do on Charly - he fought the bit for half a mile because he wasnt allowed to do what he does (which other horses cant do), almost spit it before the boy let him out, he changed & zoom. trip handicappers would be announcing a bounce if he had to come right back, because running just became less than a pleasurable experience in Charly's thick horse head. milers have won the Derby before, and none of them had Charly's stride. you cant teach that stride nothin' - it's bigger than all of us. is perfect locomotion enough to win classic distances @ 3? we'll see -
Rafy's a li'l short in the blood & manner, too, but he would be a class dominator in a normal year. Tiz is not a goofball, nor a butterfly chaser. He's smart & curious and they're the ones who usually beat their elders in the fall, which is why he's still my choice.
General Malaise
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FS1 is doing a good job and getting better each week on their Day at the Races. The addition of the cute blonde from her home is very welcome. I was all set to remove horse racing from my life for good after last year's Derby debacle but here I am, racing forms printed, pencils sharpened and my old HS calculator next to my coffee (and beer soon after).
Summerofgeorge
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13 days to Churchill
NYRAGE
Footballguy
A question for whomever watched the Arkansas Derby on NBC Sports:
Did I miss the fractions or did NBC not show them? It was driving me nuts. They just showed Charlatan going wire to wire and I don't recall hearing or seeing any fractions. I know that TVG had them when I saw a replay later, but I could have sworn that I missed them on NBC.
Did I miss the fractions or did NBC not show them? It was driving me nuts. They just showed Charlatan going wire to wire and I don't recall hearing or seeing any fractions. I know that TVG had them when I saw a replay later, but I could have sworn that I missed them on NBC.
Leroy Hoard
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And yet NBC never seems to forget the fashion segments with Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I guess I haven't paid attention to Oaklawn recently. I kept yelling out "what are the ******* fractions"? My gf had no idea why I was yelling that.
I guess they expect you to have your own stopwatch.
Chemical X
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the virtual ride on secretariat was horrible.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
“A son of Speightstown, Charlatan set fractions of 22.88 seconds for the quarter-mile, 46.08 seconds for the half-mile and 1:09.68 for three-quarters and never was seriously threatened”NYRAGE said:
He did a mile in in 1:35 and change and finished in 1:48 and change. Did it all of it easily and could have gone around the track again. My buddy has $1K on him at 18-1 in the future book. He just needs to stay healthy and break clean. Nobody is beating this horse if right. Nadal worked hard. This horse had a workout. .
otb_lifer
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NYRAGE said:
Charly: Arkansas D1: 22.88; 23.20; 23.60; 25.65;13.16 / 22.88; 46.08; 69.68; 95.33; 108.49 - 96 BSF
Raffa: Arkansas D2: 23.08; 23.13; 23.64; 25.78;12.71 / 23.08; 46.21: 69.85; 95.63; 108.34 - 98 BSF
Tiz: Florida Derby: 23.75; 24.20; 23.99; 24.85; 13.21 / 23.75; 47.95; 71.94; 96.79; 110.00 - 96 BSF
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Leroy Hoard
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I think the jockey lost some pixels in the first turn.Chemical X said:
NYRAGE
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He looks to be the best now, but a lot could happen in 4 months, especially related to health. Plus there are always some late-developing three year olds.
I'm usually on top of things when it comes to racing, but I kind of tuned out with so many things up in the air when they pushed the Derby back to September. It's got to be so odd for the trainers now. Charlatan I guess will have to run again. 4 months is a long time to be off. Or maybe not.
Will the Travers be moved up to be a prep race or would that still be too close to the Derby? Plus it's a 1 1/4, so that would make things interesting.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Santa Anita Derby next up, scheduled for 6/6.
return of Authentic and Honor A.P. - toss Wrecking Crew in there, as well.
@Walking Boot - Tizmagician also nominated ... any word?
excited for HAPs second off the bench here - been working very well
got his feet wet with a respectable enough San Felipe outing some two months ago - that was his first try in 5 months, due to injury.
he's getting a tremendous break here during this delay in being able to work back into top form ... he can be a legit handful come September.
return of Authentic and Honor A.P. - toss Wrecking Crew in there, as well.
@Walking Boot - Tizmagician also nominated ... any word?
excited for HAPs second off the bench here - been working very well
got his feet wet with a respectable enough San Felipe outing some two months ago - that was his first try in 5 months, due to injury.
he's getting a tremendous break here during this delay in being able to work back into top form ... he can be a legit handful come September.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
yeah, tentative re-open in a couple Fridays ... looks like it'll be a go.
side note, Cuomo has already come out and said no way he'll allow crowds up at the Spa ... meet is still some 2 months away, but he made that statement on 4/29.
anyways, good to hear your Tiz is getting back on track - hell of a spot to return to - wishing you all the best ✌
Man of Constant Sorrow
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I've been doxxed.tbh, it's most likely cleaner than the real gig.
i hear tell that the cat running the Sim is locked in a safehouse somewhere outside Diablock ... no contact.
FU TOBEY!
Merry Belated Virtual Derby Day, all.
Related: it was my Pop's 85th birthday yesterday, so we celebrated as best as possible - via phone & video & delivered gifts... Etc.
So, it was a good weekend.
Final comment: thnx fer getting the thread title back on track.
Man of Constant Sorrow
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Leroy Hoard
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Man of Constant Sorrow
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otb_lifer
Footballguy
i would never dox, MoCS
yo, MoCS - GFY
happy Cinco, Pinko
Happy Belated to pops! hang in there, y'all ... wishing you all the best ✌
is it even ####in' worth it?Final comment: thnx fer getting the thread title back on track.
lotta bull#### up in here - may be orphaned soon. sooner than you'd expect.
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otb_lifer
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Tiz Works on Derby Day
the following is clear as mud ....
According to Churchill Downs’ condition book, the May 23 Matt Winn Stakes (G3) will offer qualifying points toward the 2020 Kentucky Derby. So too will the June 6 Santa Anita Derby (G1) assuming racing is able to resume in California.
But the connections of leading Derby contender Tiz the Law are content to stay patient, then roll through New York en route to the first Saturday in September.
“We’re cautiously optimistic that the logjam is going to break here and that NYRA will try to have a path to the Derby we can participate in,” Jack Knowlton, head of the Sackatoga Stable partnership, said Monday.
A Constitution colt who won the Florida Derby (G1) most recently, Tiz the Law has continued to work at the Palm Meadows Training Center in south Florida, where on Saturday he breezed 5/8 of a mile in 1:01.45.
Knowlton said he’s hopeful for some news out of New York after Tiz the Law’s trainer, Barclay Tagg, was able to apply for stall space over the weekend.
“There’s some movement going on it looks like — thankfully,” Knowlton said. “Since the Florida Derby, it’s been a blank slate for us.”
Connections “didn’t have any reason” to go to the Arkansas Derby (G1), run Saturday in split divisions, given the Florida Derby awarded Tiz the Law 100 qualifying points and a spot in the gate at Churchill Downs.
“Our assumption all along is that New York will open and be without fans — that NYRA will have some kind of stakes schedule giving us a path to the Derby,” Knowlton said.
He’s hearing that, should Belmont Park be able to conduct racing, the Belmont Stakes may shift to late June.
“The speculation is it would not run at a mile and a half,” Knowlton said.
Then there’s the assumption that the Travers Stakes (G1) will move up to early August.
“We’d just have the Mid-Summer Derby before the real Derby,” Knowlton said.
It’s an unconventional order for three top races for sophomores — Belmont to Travers to the Kentucky Derby — but one Tiz the Law’s camp would be happy to win under any circumstances.
“Barclay and I have talked about what we would do,” said Knowlton, thinking Tiz the Law could go straight to Belmont if it’s added to the schedule. “He hasn’t had any problem training off a long layoff with this horse.”
Knowlton, however, did say it’s “maddening” that more information hasn’t been announced about a new date for the Preakness Stakes.
Other additions to the road to the Derby points schedule will be announced later by Churchill Downs. Top events for 3-year-olds also include the July 18 Haskell (G1) at Monmouth Park and the prospect of Keeneland running an abbreviated meet this summer that could include the Blue Grass Stakes (G2).
“There’s going to be a lot of racing in a pretty short period of time,” Knowlton said.
Tiz the Law, who’s 4-for-5 overall, also won the Holy Bull Stakes (G3) this season at Gulfstream Park. During his 2-year-old campaign, the colt went from debut Saratoga winner to Champagne Stakes (G1) hero.
The Feb. 1 Holy Bull victory came off a layoff dating back to November. Tiz the Law’s only defeat came when he had some green moments in Churchill’s Kentucky Jockey Club Stakes (G2), finishing third.
nosed out by FINNICK for second.
horrible trip, but he did get clear coming home, with a path to victory ... lead switch, lugging - and measured by two lower tiered cats.
the Derby, if run in September, will be a full 10 months past this kooky escapade ... he's been all biz in the two starts afterwards, leaving the ***** in the dust both times with plenty to spare.
the following is clear as mud ....
According to Churchill Downs’ condition book, the May 23 Matt Winn Stakes (G3) will offer qualifying points toward the 2020 Kentucky Derby. So too will the June 6 Santa Anita Derby (G1) assuming racing is able to resume in California.
But the connections of leading Derby contender Tiz the Law are content to stay patient, then roll through New York en route to the first Saturday in September.
“We’re cautiously optimistic that the logjam is going to break here and that NYRA will try to have a path to the Derby we can participate in,” Jack Knowlton, head of the Sackatoga Stable partnership, said Monday.
A Constitution colt who won the Florida Derby (G1) most recently, Tiz the Law has continued to work at the Palm Meadows Training Center in south Florida, where on Saturday he breezed 5/8 of a mile in 1:01.45.
Knowlton said he’s hopeful for some news out of New York after Tiz the Law’s trainer, Barclay Tagg, was able to apply for stall space over the weekend.
“There’s some movement going on it looks like — thankfully,” Knowlton said. “Since the Florida Derby, it’s been a blank slate for us.”
Connections “didn’t have any reason” to go to the Arkansas Derby (G1), run Saturday in split divisions, given the Florida Derby awarded Tiz the Law 100 qualifying points and a spot in the gate at Churchill Downs.
“Our assumption all along is that New York will open and be without fans — that NYRA will have some kind of stakes schedule giving us a path to the Derby,” Knowlton said.
He’s hearing that, should Belmont Park be able to conduct racing, the Belmont Stakes may shift to late June.
“The speculation is it would not run at a mile and a half,” Knowlton said.
Then there’s the assumption that the Travers Stakes (G1) will move up to early August.
“We’d just have the Mid-Summer Derby before the real Derby,” Knowlton said.
It’s an unconventional order for three top races for sophomores — Belmont to Travers to the Kentucky Derby — but one Tiz the Law’s camp would be happy to win under any circumstances.
“Barclay and I have talked about what we would do,” said Knowlton, thinking Tiz the Law could go straight to Belmont if it’s added to the schedule. “He hasn’t had any problem training off a long layoff with this horse.”
Knowlton, however, did say it’s “maddening” that more information hasn’t been announced about a new date for the Preakness Stakes.
Other additions to the road to the Derby points schedule will be announced later by Churchill Downs. Top events for 3-year-olds also include the July 18 Haskell (G1) at Monmouth Park and the prospect of Keeneland running an abbreviated meet this summer that could include the Blue Grass Stakes (G2).
“There’s going to be a lot of racing in a pretty short period of time,” Knowlton said.
Tiz the Law, who’s 4-for-5 overall, also won the Holy Bull Stakes (G3) this season at Gulfstream Park. During his 2-year-old campaign, the colt went from debut Saratoga winner to Champagne Stakes (G1) hero.
The Feb. 1 Holy Bull victory came off a layoff dating back to November. Tiz the Law’s only defeat came when he had some green moments in Churchill’s Kentucky Jockey Club Stakes (G2), finishing third.
nosed out by FINNICK for second.
horrible trip, but he did get clear coming home, with a path to victory ... lead switch, lugging - and measured by two lower tiered cats.
the Derby, if run in September, will be a full 10 months past this kooky escapade ... he's been all biz in the two starts afterwards, leaving the ***** in the dust both times with plenty to spare.
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otb_lifer
Footballguy
MAXFIELD IN 17 DAYS!
Claiborne Breeders' Futurity (G1) winner Maxfield is a "strong possibility" to make his first start as a 3-year-old May 23 in the $150,000 Matt Winn Stakes (G3) at Churchill Downs, trainer Brendan Walsh said May 5.
Two-for-two last year, winning a maiden race at Churchill prior to his triumph in the Breeders' Futurity at Keeneland, Maxfield has been breezing steadily over the past month at Keeneland after beginning his training in February at Palm Meadows Training Center in Florida. He worked six furlongs in 1:13 1/5 at Keeneland May 2, his longest workout to date, as he gears up for a return after having a bone chip removed from his right front ankle in November.
Considered one of the top juveniles of 2019, he was scratched from the Nov. 1 TVG Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1) at Santa Anita Park by Walsh after showing signs of discomfort in the days before the race.
Walsh, who conditions the Street Sense colt for owner/breeder Godolphin, said in a text message the 1 1/16-mile Matt Winn "seems like the most likely spot. The timing is good and (our) home court."
For the first time, the Matt Winn provides qualifying points toward the rescheduled Kentucky Derby Presented by Woodford Reserve (G1) Sept. 5, though on a limited 10-4-2-1 basis to its top four finishers. Prior to this year, it had always been run after the Kentucky Derby's traditional early-May date. Eventual 2017 Horse of the Year Gun Runner won it in 2016 after running third in that year's Derby.
Churchill Downs officials plan to add more qualifying races to its series this year as stakes schedules are updated when tracks resume spectatorless racing amid COVID-19.
With 10 points, the colt is currently ranked 33rd on the Kentucky Derby leaderboard, the preference system used by Churchill Downs to determine Derby entry when the race is oversubscribed beyond its 20-horse maximum field size. Nadal leads with 150, and the 20th-ranked horse is Finnick the Fierce with 25.
Maxfield closed at 9-1 odds in the most-recent Kentucky Derby Future Wager that was conducted in early April, not far behind the favorites, the mutuel field (3-1), Charlatan (5-1), and Tiz the Law (5-1).
Memory Lane
(not even called 'til the half)
still think Tiz/Bafferts are fait accompli?
WE'RE BACK, BABY!
Claiborne Breeders' Futurity (G1) winner Maxfield is a "strong possibility" to make his first start as a 3-year-old May 23 in the $150,000 Matt Winn Stakes (G3) at Churchill Downs, trainer Brendan Walsh said May 5.
Two-for-two last year, winning a maiden race at Churchill prior to his triumph in the Breeders' Futurity at Keeneland, Maxfield has been breezing steadily over the past month at Keeneland after beginning his training in February at Palm Meadows Training Center in Florida. He worked six furlongs in 1:13 1/5 at Keeneland May 2, his longest workout to date, as he gears up for a return after having a bone chip removed from his right front ankle in November.
Considered one of the top juveniles of 2019, he was scratched from the Nov. 1 TVG Breeders' Cup Juvenile (G1) at Santa Anita Park by Walsh after showing signs of discomfort in the days before the race.
Walsh, who conditions the Street Sense colt for owner/breeder Godolphin, said in a text message the 1 1/16-mile Matt Winn "seems like the most likely spot. The timing is good and (our) home court."
For the first time, the Matt Winn provides qualifying points toward the rescheduled Kentucky Derby Presented by Woodford Reserve (G1) Sept. 5, though on a limited 10-4-2-1 basis to its top four finishers. Prior to this year, it had always been run after the Kentucky Derby's traditional early-May date. Eventual 2017 Horse of the Year Gun Runner won it in 2016 after running third in that year's Derby.
Churchill Downs officials plan to add more qualifying races to its series this year as stakes schedules are updated when tracks resume spectatorless racing amid COVID-19.
With 10 points, the colt is currently ranked 33rd on the Kentucky Derby leaderboard, the preference system used by Churchill Downs to determine Derby entry when the race is oversubscribed beyond its 20-horse maximum field size. Nadal leads with 150, and the 20th-ranked horse is Finnick the Fierce with 25.
Maxfield closed at 9-1 odds in the most-recent Kentucky Derby Future Wager that was conducted in early April, not far behind the favorites, the mutuel field (3-1), Charlatan (5-1), and Tiz the Law (5-1).
Memory Lane
(not even called 'til the half)still think Tiz/Bafferts are fait accompli?
WE'RE BACK, BABY!
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
chilling, still.Memory Lane
still think Tiz/Bafferts are fait accompli?
WE'RE BACK, BABY!
best class ever?
rockaction
Footballguy
oolotb_lifer said:
otb_lifer
Footballguy
man, that '07 (of most recent vintage) was awesome - Street Sense/Curlin/Hard Spun/Scat Daddy/Tiago ... hell, ya gotta toss Rags to Riches in - she won the Belmont.
but this '20 crop is looking beastly ... i recall going into '07 it was pretty much 2 horses prior to the Derby: SS and Curlin. SS finished second in the Bluegrass coming in, and Curlin had the (still) "never raced as a 2 yr old" jinx knock (though Justy since wiped that). but it was really a case for those 2 only ... Hard Spun just got caught in a monster crop.
but this year?
any of Charly/Tiz/Raffa/Authentic/Max/Honor A.P. would not surprise me in the least ... all six are top-notch enough to be considered potential winners.
we haven't even seen the late(r) bloomers yet ... Baffert has another one, Cezanne, who is a $3.65 mil offsping outta Curlin ... injured, now waking his way back - has yet to even race, so, chances are he's a big longshot to challenge, but we do have the better part of 3+ months here for this one to make a splash or two, and bag some gate points.
otb_lifer
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Had $250WP on Street Sense in the Derby that year. The workout reports at CD were ridiculous. One of my most confident bets ever but it was hard trying to find him in the back of the pack early. What a patient ride - from 17th or so to 1st. Think he was 9/2. Good score.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
yeah, Hard Spun worked that pace for quite some time, took it all the way to the stretch - one of my favorites of all-time, just an honest effort every time out.
think Curlin was the fave going in - had to be 3-1, iirc ... Scat Daddy took some coin, as well.
SS was slept on a bit due to the Bluegrass, but it was a prep he didn't need, seding as how he already had earnings to spare ... threw enough bettors off to secure that generous 9/2.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I've always been a fan of less races but with bigger fields. As you implied, 5-6 horse fields are not good for betting.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
we may see some scratches ... matter of fact, you know we will - but, still ... ony 2 races carded under 10 entries - was to be expected after such a layoff, but still advantageous to bettors, no question - racing secretary gonna have a busy couple months.
which are your horses? gonna get some coin in, for sure - best to you and the connections ✌
Penguin
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Unrelated to the domestic 3 year olds, but Almond Eye, wow, what a filly.Clocked a 1:30.6 in the Victoria mile with fractions of 22.9, 45.6, 1:07.9 and 1:30.6 on Turf.
She also owns the 1.5 mile world record of 2:20.6, a full 3.4 seconds faster than Secretariat's 31 length Belmont win at 2:24.0. Yes I get it's turf vs. dirt but that's amazingly impressive from a filly.
She also owns the 1.5 mile world record of 2:20.6, a full 3.4 seconds faster than Secretariat's 31 length Belmont win at 2:24.0. Yes I get it's turf vs. dirt but that's amazingly impressive from a filly.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
it being neither the course nor even stakes record takes a little glow off it, but those are some unconscious #s
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Shipping to my Home Track ... but, man - what a ####ed up season - figures now that we are sitting on the greatest crop in years, amirite?
> Sackatoga Stable's Tiz the Law turned in another regular breeze at Palm Meadows Training Center May 18, but connections are now eyeing a return to New York and a major race target now that the Empire State has received the green light for spectatorless racing beginning June 1.
The 3-year-old Constitution colt will aim for the Belmont Stakes (G1), Sackatoga managing partner Jack Knowlton said May 18. Scheduled for June 6 at Belmont Park, the Belmont Stakes has yet to have a new date announced by the New York Racing Association. Racing was halted at NYRA's Aqueduct Racetrack March 19 amid the COVID-19 pandemic, and Belmont Park's April 24 opener was delayed April 16.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced May 16 that racetracks in the state may begin to conduct racing without spectators June 1. NYRA said then it will announce start dates, stakes schedules, and condition books "in the very near future."
"He will ship up to Belmont in early June and we'll have him up there in time so he can get at least a work over the track up there," said Knowlton. "It is his home track, he won the Champagne (G1) there, so it's not any question that he can handle Belmont. We don't have to deal with that. We'll just be able to walk him over from Barclay's barn to be in that race."
Tiz the Law breezed a half-mile in :50 1/5 Monday at Palm Meadows. The work followed a five-furlong move in 1:00 1/5 May 9.
"He's been doing very well. Last week he had a bullet work going five furlongs. We've kind of been alternating fast works and slow works, so we're just trying to keep him healthy and happy. Now we finally got a road map," Knowlton said. "If everything goes according to our plan he'll go to the Belmont, and what I'm hearing is (the race could be rescheduled for) the 20th or the 27th of June.
"Hopefully when NYRA comes out with its schedule, which I'm told is going to probably within the next couple days—a stakes schedule for Belmont and hopefully a stakes schedule for Saratoga—they would move the Travers (G1) to maybe the first of August. That would be our second stop and then the (Kentucky) Derby (G1) of course.
"We found out Saturday the Preakness (G1) is going to be Oct. 3. As long as he's doing what he's been doing and stays healthy and sound those would be the four races we'd be shooting for. Then hopefully he'd be good enough to take us to the Breeders' Cup."
Churchill Downs postponed the Kentucky Derby Presented by Woodford Reserve from May 2 to Sept. 5, and on May 16, the original Preakness date, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan announced on NBC that the Preakness will take place Oct. 3 at Pimlico Race Course. This year's Travers was scheduled for Aug. 29 at Saratoga Race Course. In an unrevised schedule, the race is only a week before the Kentucky Derby.
In a message distributed via social media April 16, Breeders' Cup president and CEO Drew Fleming released a statement that the organization remains "fully committed to conducting the World Championships at Keeneland on Nov. 6 and 7."
Tiz the Law is undefeated in two starts at Gulfstream Park this year, the Curlin Florida Derby (G1) and Holy Bull Stakes (G3), and is currently second on the Road to the Kentucky Derby leaderboard with 122 points. Gulfstream was closed to spectators during the Florida Derby March 28. <
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