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This is always a pet peeve of mine in any TV show/movie - where the would-be killer always hesitates in doing the job, just long enough for someone to enter and prevent the killing from happening.offdee said:
I think Lalo's plan would have been to bring the tape and Gus to Don Eladio, and let Eladio kill Gus (painfully and slowly) for his disloyalty.
It's already been established in this series (see Nacho's death) that the cartel guys like to give their victims last words, hasn't it? You may not like it but it's consistent.
In Lalo's commentary while shooting the video he said he wishes he could bring Gus to him so they can skin him (or something) but basically he wants to get his video proof of the lab and show what Gus was doing, then is going to kill him there.
Agreed. And for my broadcast, the sound track was slightly off of the video track. So the script was not matching the moving mouths exactly.
True, but I view that as retconning on the part of the writers. When Saul mentioned "Lalo" and "Ignacio" to Walt and Jesse, they were likely just names the writers made up. It was only when they launched BCS that they turned them into actual characters, which required them to eventually align their fates so that Saul's invocation of them would make sense
Or, Saul definitely got the message Lalo was dead, but he took the "you have to act like this never happened" part seriously.
I hate to tell you this but they actually made all of this up. Absolutely none of it is real.
I remember when, a few seasons in to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, they did an episode that seemed to suggest (though it was very much left ambiguous) that the entire show had been a hallucination by the title character, who was catatonic in a mental institution the whole time. There were fans who got legit upset because that meant the show they had been watching this whole time "wasn't real". And I was like, of course it wasn't real! That was the whole point of the episode! Buffy chooses to accept that the world inside the show is her reality, just as we choose to accept that the images we see on our screen of actors reading a script is real enough for us to get emotionally invested in. ("Inception" had a similar sort of mind####.)
Sure. There is a better call Saul podcast. Gilligan admitted this whole thing was in response to those lines Saul said. I think it’s pretty cool and thorough.
That is cool. Says something about their creativity that they could take a couple throwaway lines and turn them into two of the best characters on the show.
I don’t think this will happen but Saul still probably doesn’t understand what he’s dealing with when it comes to Mike and Gus.
If Kim is the loose end, I still think Mike finds a way to get her to disappear rather than offing her (without Gus' knowledge). He wasn't able to save Nacho or the German, but saving Kim will help his consequence a bit, and it will make working for Gus going forward smooth sailing (and it always was in BB; even after Gus killed Victor, Mike never wavered, even Walt tried to get him to turn in the scene in the bar which ended with Mike laying out Walt). Kim is pretty headstrong, though, so convincing her to leave her job, Jimmy and her life could be a tough sell, but Mike is a great talker.
I think you nailed it right here. And also why the producers are saying this last episode was deep but this upcoming episode is even deeper (heart-wrenching, etc).
But someone pointed out earlier that Saul still trusts Mike in BB. If Mike straight up killed Kim, no way Saul just continues to work and interact with him in that capacity.
This is a great point, and likely underscores the significance of Kim driving to Gus' house rather than Jimmy in the last episode. Kim got a glimpse into the whole Fring operation, while Jimmy just saw Mike and a few other guys show up at his house.
If Mike kills Kim, it would make him a much less sympathetic character in BB. I know Gilligan has said these episodes will make us see BB in a different way once they are done, but I would hate for them to do that with Mike.
You can discuss all you want, but you'd be wrong.
I started discussing it by Season 2. (I realize I’m in the minority there.)
