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Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.

Yes, that is the allegation in the lawsuit. Will be interesting to see the evidence as the case develops.
 
Yeah, that’s my main concern with this whole Twitter diversion (that’s what I think it is but I’m sure others disagree). This guy is a visionary and massively smart. I’d prefer that he focus on other (imo) more productive pursuits.

.... says the Ivy League educated lawyer arguing on a fantasy football website.

(kidding, kidding - it was just to easy to pass up)

Too funny. Yeah, I’m pretty resigned to the fact that I’m not going to impact humankind the way Musk will. But for accuracy, not Ivy league. You’re probably thinking of @fatguyinalittlecoat.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as about what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Are you saying Musk didn’t post or retweet the things that people are criticizing him for?
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Are you saying Musk didn’t post or retweet the things that people are criticizing him for?
Nope
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Are you saying Musk didn’t post or retweet the things that people are criticizing him for?
Nope
My point was, I’ve seen more criticism (including from advertisers) about Elons tweets and retweets - which did, in fact, happen - than what media matters published.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.

Yes, that is the allegation in the lawsuit. Will be interesting to see the evidence as the case develops.

I think even if he can prove Media Matters intentionally manipulated their twitter feed to create that negative association, it seems he's also got to prove damages caused by that. As some others have argued here, I think many of these big advertisers were either gone or had one foot out the door before this incident, which I think is pretty minor. From what I've read about that kerfuffle, it doesn't make sense that a huge advertiser would base its decision to pull ads based on that report. More likely, they're constantly looking at allocation of their advertising dollars and have determined that Twitter doesn't deliver the roi anymore for whatever reason.
 
Yeah, that’s my main concern with this whole Twitter diversion (that’s what I think it is but I’m sure others disagree). This guy is a visionary and massively smart. I’d prefer that he focus on other (imo) more productive pursuits.

.... says the Ivy League educated lawyer arguing on a fantasy football website.

(kidding, kidding - it was just to easy to pass up)

Too funny. Yeah, I’m pretty resigned to the fact that I’m not going to impact humankind the way Musk will. But for accuracy, not Ivy league. You’re probably thinking of @fatguyinalittlecoat.

I knew fatguy was. I thought you guys shared sort some college connection. But I'm drawing on memories that are nearly 20 years old ... that's crazy in itself if you think about it.
 
Yeah, that’s my main concern with this whole Twitter diversion (that’s what I think it is but I’m sure others disagree). This guy is a visionary and massively smart. I’d prefer that he focus on other (imo) more productive pursuits.

.... says the Ivy League educated lawyer arguing on a fantasy football website.

(kidding, kidding - it was just to easy to pass up)

Too funny. Yeah, I’m pretty resigned to the fact that I’m not going to impact humankind the way Musk will. But for accuracy, not Ivy league. You’re probably thinking of @fatguyinalittlecoat.

I knew fatguy was. I thought you guys shared sort some college connection. But I'm drawing on memories that are nearly 20 years old ... that's crazy in itself if you think about it.
We old...
 
Yeah, that’s my main concern with this whole Twitter diversion (that’s what I think it is but I’m sure others disagree). This guy is a visionary and massively smart. I’d prefer that he focus on other (imo) more productive pursuits.

.... says the Ivy League educated lawyer arguing on a fantasy football website.

(kidding, kidding - it was just to easy to pass up)

Too funny. Yeah, I’m pretty resigned to the fact that I’m not going to impact humankind the way Musk will. But for accuracy, not Ivy league. You’re probably thinking of @fatguyinalittlecoat.

I knew fatguy was. I thought you guys shared sort some college connection. But I'm drawing on memories that are nearly 20 years old ... that's crazy in itself if you think about it.

You have a good memory! We both went to the same law school (non-Ivy). He is an Ivy undergrad, while I’m a state school schlub.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Are you saying Musk didn’t post or retweet the things that people are criticizing him for?
Nope
My point was, I’ve seen more criticism (including from advertisers) about Elons tweets and retweets - which did, in fact, happen - than what media matters published.

I literally don't even know what Media Matters is. My entire exposure to this ordeal was Musk's Twitter feed (I don't use Twitter a ton, he's one of like a dozen people I follow and he was actually probably the first one I followed back in the day when I was pretty fanboyish on him) and recently the video posted here of his interview.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.

Yes, that is the allegation in the lawsuit. Will be interesting to see the evidence as the case develops.

I think even if he can prove Media Matters intentionally manipulated their twitter feed to create that negative association, it seems he's also got to prove damages caused by that. As some others have argued here, I think many of these big advertisers were either gone or had one foot out the door before this incident, which I think is pretty minor. From what I've read about that kerfuffle, it doesn't make sense that a huge advertiser would base its decision to pull ads based on that report. More likely, they're constantly looking at allocation of their advertising dollars and have determined that Twitter doesn't deliver the roi anymore for whatever reason.
I'd like to hear the opinions of the actual lawyers in here about it, but I read someone opining on tortious interference, and they suggested the case could turn on whether or not Media Matters was pushing advertisers to break contracts in a way that the contracts did not allow. That is, Musk would have no recourse if it was just Media Matters telling people he was terrible. But if there are, e.g., MM communications with Apple saying that they really need to disassociate with X due to what MM dug up, and this caused Apple to pull out of the contract in a way that wasn't covered by some clause, then Musk could get damages.
 
i get a kick in this thread or when talking about any other subject that it inevitably comes down to whether or not one is perceived to be a liberal or conservative or democrat or republican.

long gone are the times when i could agree or disagree with someone or something and not be labeled.

these affiliations have somehow overtaken right or wrong, which is most important to me.

musk has been right a lot, but is wrong with X or whatever it is now. he has money and power and is likely able to bully those that don’t. when he is met by others with matching resources, he seems to just get angry rather than trying to assess the issue. just my .02. he believes the issue to be free speech and when others try to exercise their free speech and will, it is wrong and unamerican.

someone who appears as thin skinned as musk should’ve been advised that social media is not for the thin skinned. it’s one thing to post nonsense and not worry about the underlying financial metrics, but when you have skin in the game, actions matter. if i was him or advising him i’d tell him to cut his losses, stop throwing good money after bad money and move on to important things. his ego likely won’t allow it, but i think it would remove this perceived negative aura he created.
 
A PR gaffe that costs 40 billion dollars or whatever must grind his gears. That's expensive. That's probably what's pissing him off so much. If I ran my mouth so much that I lost that much of a portion of my wealth and it was due to something like woke Twitter? And then the average citizen, layperson, media journalist, cultural influencer, etc. hated my behavior regarding the company and its direction—a hatred that I'd just purchased for 40 billion?

I'd Tell It To Earth too.
 
Lately my x/Twitter page is cluttered with posts that tend to fall under these two themes:

1. "Faces Of Death"-esque videos (car crashes, shootings, etc.)

2. people who post variations on Elon exposed the media elite and now they are going to pay the price!!!!! These posts are often accompanied by comment or like by Elon himself or by someone semi-famous who is Elon-adjacent.
 
A PR gaffe that costs 40 billion dollars or whatever must grind his gears. That's expensive. That's probably what's pissing him off so much. If I ran my mouth so much that I lost that much of a portion of my wealth and it was due to something like woke Twitter? And then the average citizen, layperson, media journalist, cultural influencer, etc. hated my behavior regarding the company and its direction—a hatred that I'd just purchased for 40 billion?

I'd Tell It To Earth too.
Yeah, like that all seems to be fruit born of the same tree.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:
 
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Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I agree with this generally but that’s not what’s happening in this thread (you’re the one assigning political agendas that haven’t been there otherwise about this incident).

It’s not the way you’ve been acting and it’s not close to what you’ve been actually saying before now.

I’ll move on though.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.
You’re obviously one of those 99%ers.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.
You’re obviously one of those 99%ers.

:kicksrock:
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I think you're over confident in your ability to see the "truth". Musk's recent views are clearly not apolitical for one thing. I wish he'd stay out of that and focus on other things as he could add a lot more to society rather than getting into this stuff but his purchase of X/Twitter has compelled him into to spend way too much time on these topics.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I think you're over confident in your ability to see the "truth". Musk's recent views are clearly not apolitical for one thing. I wish he'd stay out of that and focus on other things as he could add a lot more to society rather than getting into this stuff but his purchase of X/Twitter has compelled him into to spend way too much time on these topics.

Nothing I said was pertaining the his moronic antisemite gaff. That’s not really excusable.

It was just a general view from a thousand miles up.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I think you're over confident in your ability to see the "truth". Musk's recent views are clearly not apolitical for one thing. I wish he'd stay out of that and focus on other things as he could add a lot more to society rather than getting into this stuff but his purchase of X/Twitter has compelled him into to spend way too much time on these topics.

Nothing I said was pertaining the his moronic antisemite gaff. That’s not really excusable.

It was just a general view from a thousand miles up.
Gaffe? You think it was an accident?
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I think you're over confident in your ability to see the "truth". Musk's recent views are clearly not apolitical for one thing. I wish he'd stay out of that and focus on other things as he could add a lot more to society rather than getting into this stuff but his purchase of X/Twitter has compelled him into to spend way too much time on these topics.

Agreed. He’s not built for it.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.
It kind of sounded like you compared yourself to Einstein and implied maybe many or most of us here are stupid parrots so I don’t think that’s creating a healthy environment.
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I think you're over confident in your ability to see the "truth". Musk's recent views are clearly not apolitical for one thing. I wish he'd stay out of that and focus on other things as he could add a lot more to society rather than getting into this stuff but his purchase of X/Twitter has compelled him into to spend way too much time on these topics.

Nothing I said was pertaining the his moronic antisemite gaff. That’s not really excusable.

It was just a general view from a thousand miles up.
Gaffe? You think it was an accident?

Are we talking about the same thing that he apologized for?
 
Telling your customers to “GFY.” It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.
Advertisers are not his customers. They are paying him to use his platform.

This is what Musk has completely screwed up. Advertisers are absolutely the customer of Twitter.

At its core - Twitter is no different than any other internet site. As with most media - content is king. Twitter built a robust business model where you had lots of people providing content - for free! From news media personalities, to sports and entertainment celebrities, to other content producers - and even the little guys like me with just hundreds of followers, not millions - they were all providing free content - and that was driving millions of eyeballs to the site.

The previous owners had not quite figured out how to effectively monetize that - but they were on the right track with the ad revenue model.

One of the first things Musk did - is drive away a lot of his content providers, and diminished their value by eliminating the verified users, and going to a pay-to-play model. By amplifying the paid users, at the expense of key content producers - you are both risking the quality content, but also the quantity of content - and that will reduce eyeballs, and the value of the advertising space. And, this is before you even consider the actual content - much of which advertisers find objectionable - and thus don't want their ads showing up in close proximity to extreme views.

Once again everyone is forgetting (or ignoring) that the OmG ExtrMe Nazi stuff was manipulated and forced- it didn’t happen naturally.
I doubt people (and advertisers) care about the Media Matters stuff as much as what Musk himself is amplifying/validating on a regular basis. I see more backlash against what he (as leader of the company) is posting, validating, and retweeting than what Media Matters showed. To me, this is just him trying to shift the focus of the issues on outside parties (like what he did with the ADL) when most of his critic’s concerns are with what he is doing and posting.

I agree that people don’t care about facts anymore. It’s all about…. Feelings.
Well you are the one conflating allegations with “facts” and assigning motivations to others.

It can be argued you’re choosing your facts based on your feelings as well - you seem to be belittling the type of people that you don’t like with pejorative comments as to why they believe what they believe and implying your the one that sees the truth while they’re being suckered by those they “follow”.

I do see the truth. Its not right or left - Its neither. People are fooled and bickering about the red team and the blue team - you cant see that both are charlatans.

If anybody thinks they aren't just out there playing the public - They deserve belittling.
I think you're over confident in your ability to see the "truth". Musk's recent views are clearly not apolitical for one thing. I wish he'd stay out of that and focus on other things as he could add a lot more to society rather than getting into this stuff but his purchase of X/Twitter has compelled him into to spend way too much time on these topics.

Nothing I said was pertaining the his moronic antisemite gaff. That’s not really excusable.

It was just a general view from a thousand miles up.
Gaffe? You think it was an accident?

Are we talking about the same thing that he apologized for?
I think we are talking about when he said the person tweeting the conspiracy theory that Jewish people push white hate and that he doesn’t care about Western Jews to which Musk replied that this was the actual truth. That doesn’t sound like a gaffe to me. A gaffe is asking an overweight women when the baby is due because you assume she’s pregnant or trying to get a coworker to take a shot with you forgetting hers a recovering alcoholic. Not reading something and saying I believe this is true.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.
It kind of sounded like you compared yourself to Einstein and implied maybe many or most of us here are stupid parrots so I don’t think that’s creating a healthy environment.


It was a quote.

The majority of people on this earth are morons. That is not an original thought by me.

I wouldn’t take that personally - I don’t think you’re one of them.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.
It kind of sounded like you compared yourself to Einstein and implied maybe many or most of us here are stupid parrots so I don’t think that’s creating a healthy environment.


It was a quote.

The majority of people on this earth are morons. That is not an original thought by me.

I wouldn’t take that personally - I don’t think you’re one of them.
I’m not really bothered- just saying how it sort of came off.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.

Lol - I’m positive you have no clue what my views are. You came across as an enormous douche who is smarter than everyone else in your post. If you don’t care about that - great, I was just trying to let you know in a nice way.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.

Lol - I’m positive you have no clue what my views are. You came across as an enormous douche who is smarter than everyone else in your post. If you don’t care about that - great, I was just trying to let you know in a nice way.

Never once said that I know your views but clearly you disagree with me. I offered a general thousand foot view of the populace as a whole. You attack me personally.

You stay big mad. I’m going to have some coffee and enjoy my day while you guys throw tantrums because I didn’t fall in line.

You proved my point.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.

Lol - I’m positive you have no clue what my views are. You came across as an enormous douche who is smarter than everyone else in your post. If you don’t care about that - great, I was just trying to let you know in a nice way.

Never once said that I know your views but clearly you disagree with me. I offered a general thousand foot view of the populace as a whole. You attack me personally.

You stay big mad. I’m going to have some coffee and enjoy my day while you guys throw tantrums because I didn’t fall in line.

You proved my point.

You’re a weird dude but I like you man. Have a great day.
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.

Lol - I’m positive you have no clue what my views are. You came across as an enormous douche who is smarter than everyone else in your post. If you don’t care about that - great, I was just trying to let you know in a nice way.

Never once said that I know your views but clearly you disagree with me. I offered a general thousand foot view of the populace as a whole. You attack me personally.

You stay big mad. I’m going to have some coffee and enjoy my day while you guys throw tantrums because I didn’t fall in line.

You proved my point.

You’re a weird dude but I like you man. Have a great day.

I am aware. I really like you too even though we disagree sometimes.

:coffee:
 
Do you realize that you guys all hate the people you’re told to dislike?
This has stuck in my head so I'll ask what you mean by this? It seems dismissive of other posters by describing them a bit like mindless sheep being controlled by.... who or what? I'm not sure that's what you intended to mean. So I'm just asking.

Sure but I’ll do it tomorrow. I’ve been drinking and I’m tired.(I need to go back and quote some posts and I’d rather do it at a laptop)

I owe you a response on this.... Im not less sober tonight, but Im less tired ATM.....

I think this quote sums it up.....

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.” - Albert Einstein


This is very hard for me but I will try and further articulate.... I see the world very differently than most people. Its honestly rather mundane and simple. Boring even. I find that 99% of people do not have an original thought so when I see what looks like boilerplate responses/talking points that are being parroted I cant help but roll my eyes. It's so transparent, dumb and lazy. I have no patience for it.

I try to be logical with everything. IMO he (Musk,) bought a full on government propaganda machine and we should all be grateful. Is he weird? Sure. I know that about him so I put it in perspective.

I am a contrarian. Im probably on the spectrum. I just see things differenlty and I find the bar for almost everyting in life is set so low. Its so much simpler than people make it out to be.

I reject conformity. I dispise it.

Most people don't have an original thought. Nobody reads the last paragraph of the articles, which often contradict the title.

People think the left is right or the right is right - they are both scam artists. Put me in a room with any polotician and I will demolish them. You just have to be a good orator and you can lead the meek wherever you want to take them.

:shrug:

Maybe try a do over when you are sober - I don’t think this post is how you want to portray yourself based on your others posts.

I couldn’t care less what people think of me.

We should live in an healthy environment where we can give each other grace with our thoughts. My heart is always in the right place. I can always be persuaded to change my views with data. I don’t need to write a different post to accommodate your views and philosophy.

Lol - I’m positive you have no clue what my views are. You came across as an enormous douche who is smarter than everyone else in your post. If you don’t care about that - great, I was just trying to let you know in a nice way.

Never once said that I know your views but clearly you disagree with me. I offered a general thousand foot view of the populace as a whole. You attack me personally.

You stay big mad. I’m going to have some coffee and enjoy my day while you guys throw tantrums because I didn’t fall in line.

You proved my point.

You’re a weird dude but I like you man. Have a great day.

I am aware. I really like you too even though we disagree sometimes.

:coffee:

Hey, I disagree with my wife all the time and she’s my favorite person on the planet.
 
The majority of people on this earth are morons.

Seems not nice, and almost certainly statistically untrue.
"Moron" is a strong word, but most people are perfectly happy to outsource their thinking to others. That's a fair observation.
It's an interesting observation. I am not sure I would go with "fair" but I have no idea what your observations have been, nor how you are defining "outsource their thinking to others". Seems like a lazy analysis of people who disagree with you.

People see the world through different lenses, and life experiences - what seems like mindless behavior to one person, could well be a heartfelt belief.
 
The majority of people on this earth are morons.

Seems not nice, and almost certainly statistically untrue.
"Moron" is a strong word, but most people are perfectly happy to outsource their thinking to others. That's a fair observation.
It's an interesting observation. I am not sure I would go with "fair" but I have no idea what your observations have been, nor how you are defining "outsource their thinking to others". Seems like a lazy analysis of people who disagree with you.

People see the world through different lenses, and life experiences - what seems like mindless behavior to one person, could well be a heartfelt belief.
Yes, if there's one criticism of me that's dead on accurate, it's laziness when it comes to understanding people who disagree with me. You win, man.
 
I was never a Twitter user until maybe six months ago. I signed up and followed maybe four or five USC/Pac-12 accounts just to get breaking news about recruiting. Since then, I have been consistently getting notifications to my phone about election fraud case updates (mostly breaking news on some development that will bust the case wide open and show that the 2020 election was stolen). These alerts are for posts from accounts that I do not follow and have never searched for or visited. I imagine there is for sure some way to turn off alerts or limit alerts only to the accounts I follow, but I haven’t been bothered to find out how. I just find it interesting that the only alerts I receive (other than from the accounts I follow) are about a single topic.
 
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