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[SFBayDuck]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Once again, Twitter was about 60 minutes ahead of the legacy media in covering a breaking-news story.

This is a good example of how legacy media can't win.

If they're fast and occasionally get something wrong, everyone will zero in on the thing they got wrong (even if they eventually correct it) and lambast them for trying to be the first one to the story instead of waiting to get the story right.

If they wait to confirm things, those same people will lambast them for being too slow.

I don't agree it's a "no win" situation.

We have the exact same situation on the much less serious topic of Football.

We publish what we believe to be true. Finding that right balance of what we feel good about being true sometimes does cause us to be a few minutes later than other sources who don't want to go for the same level of certainty we do. That's ok. They're ok.

They get the cheers when they're first. They get the boos when they post something too early that turns out completely wrong or biased. It's a balance and the content creator / media gets to make those decisions.

CNN making the headline "Secret Service Rushes Trump Offstage After He Falls At Rally" was a conscious decision. They could have waited 90 more seconds to see it was obviously shots fired and Trump was hit and bleeding. But they made a decision. And that decision affects how people view them going forward. It's up to them.

But you're kind of proving my point here. Because doing what you're suggesting they should have done is what the post I was quoting was finding fault over other outlets for doing. One outlet waits until information is clear, and is criticized for being too slow. Another posts what they have and update it as they get more, and is criticized for posting info that was incomplete.

If someone's objective is to criticize legacy media outlets, they just criticize them either way. That's where we are at. Sure they've had plenty of legitimate issues before, as any source has. But once people have decided and been propagandized into hating them, they will just criticize either side of it. And they do. Every time.

I'm not saying sites won't be criticized if they are slow. I'm saying it's a balance and they get to choose. All sites will get criticism of some sort. They get to pick the tradeoffs.

I don't know people are "propagandized" in this way. I think people see how a site performs and then make decisions about who and what they trust. CNN is experiencing some of that this morning. Not because someone told people to not trust them. Because people look and see with their own eyes.

 

[Ilov80s]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

The for you tab last night was a cesspool. Good to stay away.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

The for you tab last night was a cesspool. Good to stay away.

I understand I seem to be the only person on Twitter with a good "for you" tab but mine was excellent last night. Kept updating with relevant quality posts on the assasination attempt.

 

[Ilov80s]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

The for you tab last night was a cesspool. Good to stay away.

I understand I seem to be the only person on Twitter with a good "for you" tab but mine was excellent last night. Kept updating with relevant quality posts on the assasination attempt.

Mine was bombarded with conspiracy theories and finger pointing

 

[Don Quixote]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

The for you tab last night was a cesspool. Good to stay away.

I understand I seem to be the only person on Twitter with a good "for you" tab but mine was excellent last night. Kept updating with relevant quality posts on the assasination attempt.

Mine was bombarded with conspiracy theories and finger pointing

Same. I just re-checked the For You and still showing me conspiracy theories about it being staged.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

The for you tab last night was a cesspool. Good to stay away.

I understand I seem to be the only person on Twitter with a good "for you" tab but mine was excellent last night. Kept updating with relevant quality posts on the assasination attempt.

Mine was bombarded with conspiracy theories and finger pointing

Interesting. I wonder how their algorithms work that gives such different results. I'm just glad mine works as well as it does.

 

[Insein]

For you is based entirely on what you engage with. If you respond to a post of a certain groups of people trying to correct them or insult them, you will have dozens of similar posts pop up because that's what the algorithm thinks you want.

 

[Ilov80s]

Same. My TL performed better than CNN, NBC, etc.

Yep, it's all about the TL curation. I don't have anything political or breaking news on my TL, so I had to go looking for info... and, good luck with that. But the stuff I actually follow is super reliable generally.

Same. I use Twitter for stock/economic news and sports. I rarely go to the “For You” tab, and instead just use the lists I’ve created (which they keep making more difficult to access). Because of that last night I had to go searching, and found some early news that turned out to be accurate. And then it quickly devolved into the cesspool that huge swaths of the internet have become, amplifying division because that’s what drives engagement.

Honestly I mostly just kept looking for those people at the top left in the stands who obviously saw something to post the videos they took.

The for you tab last night was a cesspool. Good to stay away.

I understand I seem to be the only person on Twitter with a good "for you" tab but mine was excellent last night. Kept updating with relevant quality posts on the assasination attempt.

Mine was bombarded with conspiracy theories and finger pointing

Same. I just re-checked the For You and still showing me conspiracy theories about it being staged.

I have some staged but at least yesterday most of mine were that it was some kind of inside job and calls for purging.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For you is based entirely on what you engage with. If you respond to a post of a certain groups of people trying to correct them or insult them, you will have dozens of similar posts pop up because that's what the algorithm thinks you want.

That's likely part of it it for me. I often will "like" a post that I like and I'm sure it's learning what kind of posts I want to see.

I rarely correct people on posts and try not to ever insult anyone.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

If Joe was consistent he would nuke this thread too,

You may be right. I try to give people as much benefit of the doubt as possible until they show we can't discuss. This one is close.

Nuke the people that can't behave instead of the thread

 

[squistion]

If Joe was consistent he would nuke this thread too,

You may be right. I try to give people as much benefit of the doubt as possible until they show we can't discuss. This one is close.

Nuke the people that can't behave instead of the thread

Or instead of the forum.

 

[Joe Bryant]

If Joe was consistent he would nuke this thread too,

You may be right. I try to give people as much benefit of the doubt as possible until they show we can't discuss. This one is close.

Nuke the people that can't behave instead of the thread

Or instead of the forum.

Please don't drag up trying to revive the political forum again. It's not going to happen.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

If Joe was consistent he would nuke this thread too,

You may be right. I try to give people as much benefit of the doubt as possible until they show we can't discuss. This one is close.

Nuke the people that can't behave instead of the thread

Or instead of the forum.

Yeah, I think we're just trying to keep a thread about twitter. Don't loop me into your beef about the PSF, please.

 

[Battersbox]

Twitter was the only ones calling it an assassination attempt. Other outlets including on Twitter still maintaining it was just an incident.

This tweet by the AP is still up.

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That tweet is still up, but waited for more facts before declaring it. AP also has this subsequent tweet where they referred to it that way.

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Media accounts have the ability to update a previous tweet. They chose to leave this one out there.

In addition, everyone has the ability to reply to their own posts and goes right underneath the top post.

And if they updated the tweet people would be complaining about them trying to hide their initial tweet. Go to AP timeline and you can see chronologically how they updated their take on the incident as more information came out

Yes, I would rather tweets stayed out there, unabridged. A new tweet should be sufficient. The length of time between the original tweet and the updated tweet is fair game for scrutiny.

 

[uwillbsoon]

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I don't know what Twitter stuff he consumed, but I found anything factual on Twitter was from or contained a link to "legacy" media. Anything opinion was a random Twitter user. As such, my curated feed - which oddly is mostly sports reporters - was way better at giving me actual breaking news than his algorithmic for you feed. The for you page was showing old content - sometimes as many as 19 hours old in my case. Hardly great for breaking news like my curated feed.

So what happens when he keeps insulting "legacy" media and they stop sharing their content with his platform? Is he going to hire trained reporters to do the job?

As usual, my Twitter experience was professionals are better than non-professionals.

 

[BlackCrowes]

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I don't know what Twitter stuff he consumed, but I found anything factual on Twitter was from or contained a link to "legacy" media. Anything opinion was a random Twitter user. As such, my curated feed - which oddly is mostly sports reporters - was way better at giving me actual breaking news than his algorithmic for you feed. The for you page was showing old content - sometimes as many as 19 hours old in my case. Hardly great for breaking news like my curated feed.

So what happens when he keeps insulting "legacy" media and they stop sharing their content with his platform? Is he going to hire trained reporters to do the job?

As usual, my Twitter experience was professionals are better than non-professionals.

his tweet about classifying whatever organization the shooter was affiliated with as a "terrorist" organization seems to be gone. i wonder which type he considered that.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

"Joe Bryant" is a trending topic.

 

[Mitchie]

the 'probably spam' feature should be re-labeled 'probably not spam' because it seems to usually not be spam. I've found it to just be content Musk doesn't like.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

"Joe Bryant" is a trending topic.

My condolences to the Bryant family. May he have a great season, guy.

 

[TLEF316]

I never actually respond to anyone on Twitter....ever...other than crapping on the Jets.

My "For you" has turned into nothing but political nutjobs (from both sides) this week. Gonna have to take a break.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

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So Musk posted a video on his twitter feed featuring fake quotes from an AI generated Kamala Harris voiceover. Per Twitter's terms, anything like this featuring fakes of someone's voice or video is supposed to be disclaimed. Even the hard right guy that originally posted the video where Musk found it properly disclaimed it as an AI generated parody, a disclaimer that Musk removed when posting the video under his own account.

I don't fully understand how community notes work, but as I understand it that is the absolute minimum that would normally be added to something like this, but the community notes department (again not sure if it's a department or what, I don't' fully know how it works) apparently proposed 7 variations of a community note to add to it, all of which were denied (by Musk directly? I have no idea) such that not even any community notes are included with the video.

The tweet has been viewed 107.4 million times. So far.

 

[Don Quixote]

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So Musk posted a video on his twitter feed featuring fake quotes from an AI generated Kamala Harris voiceover. Per Twitter's terms, anything like this featuring fakes of someone's voice or video is supposed to be disclaimed. Even the hard right guy that originally posted the video where Musk found it properly disclaimed it as an AI generated parody, a disclaimer that Musk removed when posting the video under his own account.

I don't fully understand how community notes work, but as I understand it that is the absolute minimum that would normally be added to something like this, but the community notes department (again not sure if it's a department or what, I don't' fully know how it works) apparently proposed 7 variations of a community note to add to it, all of which were denied (by Musk directly? I have no idea) such that not even any community notes are included with the video.

The tweet has been viewed 107.4 million times. So far.

The long time White House official photographer posted a photo of Trump today with a conspiracy tinge to it today and his account has been suspended. Not sure why considering the site is basically conspiracy theory central.

I’m not sure he was suspended. That shows up differently. Seeing others saying he deactivated by choice because of what he was getting in response to posting it. Yashar Ali saying the same.

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[HellToupee]

I don't fully understand how community notes work, but as I understand it that is the absolute minimum that would normally be added to something like this, but the community notes department (again not sure if it's a department or what, I don't' fully know how it works) apparently proposed 7 variations of a community note to add to it, all of which were denied (by Musk directly? I have no idea) such that not even any community notes are included with the video.

Here is the inside of community notes. Every post Musk makes gets a community note vote. CN is basically a back room slap fight

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Twitter policy (created by Musk) requires satire/parody to be labeled clearly to prevent misleading people.https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1590886170543915009?s=46The creator of this video (MrReagan) has labeled it accurately on his original post but the satire/parody label has not carried over when reposted by Elon Musk.
Is this note helpful?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't fully understand how community notes work, but as I understand it that is the absolute minimum that would normally be added to something like this, but the community notes department (again not sure if it's a department or what, I don't' fully know how it works) apparently proposed 7 variations of a community note to add to it, all of which were denied (by Musk directly? I have no idea) such that not even any community notes are included with the video.

Here is the inside of community notes. Every post Musk makes gets a community note vote. CN is basically a back room slap fight

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Twitter policy (created by Musk) requires satire/parody to be labeled clearly to prevent misleading people.https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1590886170543915009?s=46The creator of this video (MrReagan) has labeled it accurately on his original post but the satire/parody label has not carried over when reposted by Elon Musk.
Is this note helpful?

So that begs the question as to whether Musk has disabled community notes from being publicly appended to his own posts as some people have claimed, or if community notes are just so incredibly poorly designed that they're essentially useless.

I don't use Twitter a lot but I'm leaning towards the latter. For instance when I was trying to look around about this I came across a tweet that accused Musk of removing community notes from his posts starting around mid-March and showed before/after screenshots of a bunch of his tweets that had community notes, and then screenshots with the community notes removed around the same date in March. On that accusatory tweet there was a community note saying that the accusation was provably false because statistically Musk was among the top 30 on twitter for having the most community notes applied to them. But that statistic was based on an article from January 3rd, prior to the accusation of Musk removing the notes from his tweets (mid-March), and hence irrelevant to the claim that he removed them in March.

So that gets that totally irrelevant source noting the guy's tweet as false, yet when Musk posts something demonstrably false/faked, it's not worthy of a note? Just doesn't seem like a useful system unless it's just a matter of the notes no longer being published on his own tweets (which is arguably even worse).

 

[squistion]

FreeBaGeL said:

So that gets that totally irrelevant source noting the guy's tweet as false, yet when Musk posts something demonstrably false/faked, it's not worthy of a note? Just doesn't seem like a useful system unless it's just a matter of the notes no longer being published on his own tweets (which is arguably even worse).

Well, if you own and run the place you can set your own rules, even if they are arbitrary or inconsistent.

 

[McBokonon]

So that begs the question as to whether Musk has disabled community notes from being publicly appended to his own posts as some people have claimed

Yeah, I don't think this is it. For example - he amplified fake news, as he often does, about the Venezuela election and it got community noted, and the original tweet got deleted.

In this case, it's too bad because it's pretty apparent the Maduro regime is stealing this election even without using completely unrelated video and lying about it.

 

[Jayrod]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Yeah, I don't think this is it. For example - he amplified fake news, as he often does, about the Venezuela election and it got community noted, and the original tweet got deleted.

Thanks. That was my understanding as well.

 

[Joe Bryant]

We may not be able to keep this thread alive as Musk has inserted himself so much into the political side.

I will say that seems unwise on his part to be that overtly biased politically. I've no doubt the other sites are as biased, but at least they keep it mostly unseen.

Let's leave it at that.

On the upside, I find Twitter more useful than ever. I continually get helpful entrepreneur posting and for Football, it's an invaluable tool. So I hope it stays as strong as it is.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

"Oh Gavin Hardison was cut by Miami, huh." Meanwhile

Twitter’s US revenue has dropped from $661M in Q2 of 2022 to $114M in Q2 of 2024.

 

[Terpman22]

We may not be able to keep this thread alive as Musk has inserted himself so much into the political side.

I will say that seems unwise on his part to be that overtly biased politically. I've no doubt the other sites are as biased, but at least they keep it mostly unseen.

Let's leave it at that.

On the upside, I find Twitter more useful than ever. I continually get helpful entrepreneur posting and for Football, it's an invaluable tool. So I hope it stays as strong as it is.

Good call here. He bought twitter to destroy it just in time for the US election this year. He doesn't care. He is real life Richie Rich. Will do what he wants, no one can tell him otherwise. Its clear to me and a whole lot of people he obviously bought twitter to destroy it and make it no longer a reliable place to get true news as well as amplify all the crap and garbage he sees fit. He is the quintessential case of "Money can't buy you happiness" b/c all he really wants, it seems, is people to really think he is a funny/not weirdo. And its backfiring spectacularly.

 

[massraider]

I will say that seems unwise on his part to be that overtly biased politically. I've no doubt the other sites are as biased, but at least they keep it mostly unseen.

I don't care if he's biased

I care that he is posting deepfake videos.

This really has nothing to do with politics.

 

[massraider]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.
The video uses many of the same visuals as a real ad that Harris, the likely Democratic president nominee, released launching her campaign. But the fake ad swaps out Harris’ voice-over audio with an AI-generated voice that convincingly impersonates Harris.

“I, Kamala Harris, am your Democrat candidate for president because Joe Biden finally exposed his senility at the debate,” the AI voice says in the video. It claims Harris is a “diversity hire” because she is a woman and a person of color, and it says she doesn’t know “the first thing about running the country.” The video retains “Harris for President” branding. It also adds in some authentic past clips of Harris

A parody ad shared by Elon Musk clones Kamala Harris' voice, raising concerns about AI in politics

A video using an artificial intelligence voice-cloning tool to mimic the voice of Vice President Kamala Harris saying things she did not say is raising concerns about the power of AI to mislead ahead of November’s elections.

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The original user who posted the video, a YouTuber known as Mr Reagan, disclosed from the beginning both on YouTube and on X that the manipulated video is a parody. Yet Musk’s initial post with the video, which had far wider reach with 130 million views on X, according to the platform, only included the caption “This is amazing” with a laughing emoji.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.

The Kamala Harris video was obviously a parody. Stuff like that isn't really a problem.

But we've had a few little dust-ups recently where it was hard to tell exactly what a person was saying. For example, you probably saw the same clip from Fox News that I did where it was unclear whether an anchor referred to a "college sorority" or a "colored sorority" (big difference, obviously). That's just one just trivial example, but there have been others involving elected officials and candidates for office. What would stop someone from subtly "clarifying" one of those videos to make it look like the speaker said something that they plausibly might have said but didn't?

IMO we should establish a very strong taboo against anything that looks like a deepfake, even if it isn't actually fooling anyone. It's going to be very easy to fool people with these if somebody set out to do so.

 

[massraider]

IMO we should establish a very strong taboo against anything that looks like a deepfake, even if it isn't actually fooling anyone. It's going to be very easy to fool people with these if somebody set out to do so

Yeah, instead of everyone needing to decide if a reasonable person could be fooled, just make it not cool to use them

 

[squistion]

We may not be able to keep this thread alive as Musk has inserted himself so much into the political side.

I will say that seems unwise on his part to be that overtly biased politically. I've no doubt the other sites are as biased, but at least they keep it mostly unseen.

Let's leave it at that.

On the upside, I find Twitter more useful than ever. I continually get helpful entrepreneur posting and for Football, it's an invaluable tool. So I hope it stays as strong as it is.

That would be a shame.

 

[bigbottom]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.

The Kamala Harris video was obviously a parody. Stuff like that isn't really a problem.

But we've had a few little dust-ups recently where it was hard to tell exactly what a person was saying. For example, you probably saw the same clip from Fox News that I did where it was unclear whether an anchor referred to a "college sorority" or a "colored sorority" (big difference, obviously). That's just one just trivial example, but there have been others involving elected officials and candidates for office. What would stop someone from subtly "clarifying" one of those videos to make it look like the speaker said something that they plausibly might have said but didn't?

IMO we should establish a very strong taboo against anything that looks like a deepfake, even if it isn't actually fooling anyone. It's going to be very easy to fool people with these if somebody set out to do so.

There’s already been a deepfake of Harris that went around social media where she is speaking nonsense about today is today, and yesterday is today yesterday. Every person I saw who circulated it thought it was real. Deepfakes are going to be a real problem for all public figures.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.

The Kamala Harris video was obviously a parody. Stuff like that isn't really a problem.

But we've had a few little dust-ups recently where it was hard to tell exactly what a person was saying. For example, you probably saw the same clip from Fox News that I did where it was unclear whether an anchor referred to a "college sorority" or a "colored sorority" (big difference, obviously). That's just one just trivial example, but there have been others involving elected officials and candidates for office. What would stop someone from subtly "clarifying" one of those videos to make it look like the speaker said something that they plausibly might have said but didn't?

IMO we should establish a very strong taboo against anything that looks like a deepfake, even if it isn't actually fooling anyone. It's going to be very easy to fool people with these if somebody set out to do so.

There’s already been a deepfake of Harris that went around social media where she is speaking nonsense about today is today, and yesterday is today yesterday. Every person I saw who circulated it thought it was real. Deepfakes are going to be a real problem for all public figures.

I was thinking of a different Harris video, but you're right that this is going to be a problem.

 

[Terpman22]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.

The Kamala Harris video was obviously a parody. Stuff like that isn't really a problem.

But we've had a few little dust-ups recently where it was hard to tell exactly what a person was saying. For example, you probably saw the same clip from Fox News that I did where it was unclear whether an anchor referred to a "college sorority" or a "colored sorority" (big difference, obviously). That's just one just trivial example, but there have been others involving elected officials and candidates for office. What would stop someone from subtly "clarifying" one of those videos to make it look like the speaker said something that they plausibly might have said but didn't?

IMO we should establish a very strong taboo against anything that looks like a deepfake, even if it isn't actually fooling anyone. It's going to be very easy to fool people with these if somebody set out to do so.

There’s already been a deepfake of Harris that went around social media where she is speaking nonsense about today is today, and yesterday is today yesterday. Every person I saw who circulated it thought it was real. Deepfakes are going to be a real problem for all public figures.

Yeah I think we are giving the general consensus public too much credit on their ability to ID this kinda stuff. Not to mention all it takes is one time for one of the myriad of not super accurate media agencies to circulate one of these and boom here comes another Pizzagate

 

[CletiusMaximus]

That video could not be any more obvious it is a parody. Anyone who can actually access X.com knows it is a parody.

The Kamala Harris video was obviously a parody. Stuff like that isn't really a problem.

But we've had a few little dust-ups recently where it was hard to tell exactly what a person was saying. For example, you probably saw the same clip from Fox News that I did where it was unclear whether an anchor referred to a "college sorority" or a "colored sorority" (big difference, obviously). That's just one just trivial example, but there have been others involving elected officials and candidates for office. What would stop someone from subtly "clarifying" one of those videos to make it look like the speaker said something that they plausibly might have said but didn't?

IMO we should establish a very strong taboo against anything that looks like a deepfake, even if it isn't actually fooling anyone. It's going to be very easy to fool people with these if somebody set out to do so.

There’s already been a deepfake of Harris that went around social media where she is speaking nonsense about today is today, and yesterday is today yesterday. Every person I saw who circulated it thought it was real. Deepfakes are going to be a real problem for all public figures.

They can also be hilarious depending on who the public figure is and the context.

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[massraider]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

 

[HomerSimpson]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

And no one on his staff was like "hey don't go out there and dance like a weirdo and try to recreate the music video of "walk like an Egyptian" maybe just play it cool?"

 

[beer 30]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

And no one on his staff was like "hey don't go out there and dance like a weirdo and try to recreate the music video of "walk like an Egyptian" maybe just play it cool?"

Maybe they did and as the wealthiest man on the planet, he told them to **** right off

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Looks like someone needs to tell the emperor to put on some damn clothes.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

Precedent for super rich guys awkwardly dancing. https://youtu.be/ojP0BO6H4Qc?si=gAsRhcsliJYQ0xj3

 

[McBokonon]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

Precedent for super rich guys awkwardly dancing. https://youtu.be/ojP0BO6H4Qc?si=gAsRhcsliJYQ0xj3

I knew what this was before even clicking. That's a hall of famer.

 

[zoobird]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

Precedent for super rich guys awkwardly dancing. https://youtu.be/ojP0BO6H4Qc?si=gAsRhcsliJYQ0xj3

I knew what this was before even clicking. That's a hall of famer.

Amazing how obvious that was!

 

[SWC]

FreeBaGeL said:

So that gets that totally irrelevant source noting the guy's tweet as false, yet when Musk posts something demonstrably false/faked, it's not worthy of a note? Just doesn't seem like a useful system unless it's just a matter of the notes no longer being published on his own tweets (which is arguably even worse).

Well, if you own and run the place you can set your own rules, even if they are arbitrary or inconsistent.

why are you the way you are take that to the bank brohan

 

[SWC]

Much more distressing

What good is it to be the wealthiest person in the world if you have no one on your staff to tell you T-Shirt over Dress Shirt is a mistake?

Precedent for super rich guys awkwardly dancing. https://youtu.be/ojP0BO6H4Qc?si=gAsRhcsliJYQ0xj3

we can all laugh but dollars to donuts you get 10 fbgs together and tell them have a hoedown and this is exactly what it looks like look i have seen myself dance before and i am just sayin take that to the bank brochachos