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***Official*** Washington Redskins 2015 Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)

I know everybody wanted Haslett gone but....

I blame Allen for signing too many WRs and DLmen and not addressing the DBs.

The entire defense hinged on DHall and Hatcher staying healthy. And you NEVER sign a DT after year 6. They just break down from the abuse.

 
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So we didn't hire the big name "get". Is that what we always do? I'm not thrilled about Barry by any means, but I'm not going all "sky is falling!" about it. This one is on Gruden. That is good. We're stuck with him for a bit, so the more that's on him the better. This is his staff now. We have a calendar year to see where he goes with it.

 
Sebowski said:
So we didn't hire the big name "get". Is that what we always do? I'm not thrilled about Barry by any means, but I'm not going all "sky is falling!" about it. This one is on Gruden. That is good. We're stuck with him for a bit, so the more that's on him the better. This is his staff now. We have a calendar year to see where he goes with it.
I'm in the ship has sailed on gruden camp. I'd prefer to see him gone, sooner rather than later. While I didn't expect to see him get the boot after 1yr, I hope his hiring of this DC seals his fate next offseason. Does it make me a bad guy to want the team to struggle this upcoming yr just so gruden will get fired? Maybe.

Secondly, its great that the HC actually got to hire his own DC. Novel concept for our organization.

 
Awesome hire. Could not have found anyone better. This guys track record...he's definitely the savior this defense needs.
To be fair (if we are doing that thing these days), dude was given crap to work with thanks to Matt Millen. Plus I assume he's learned some things along the way. SD's DC was no slouch, so he must have picked up some good things working with him. I read this earlier today:

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/14845/jarret-johnson-high-on-redskins-defensive-coordinator-joe-barry

That's all I got....

 
So I'm thinking draft wise they gonna need to better pass rushers or DL in the early 1st. There's gonna be guys that fit the need and value of the pick. OL might be the most important position, but is there a guy worth the #5? Seems like the draft niks have dubbed Scherff from Iowa the top OL, but reports read that he might be better suited for OG. But if they guy can play and maul in the run game, might that be ok pick?

 
Sebowski said:
So we didn't hire the big name "get". Is that what we always do? I'm not thrilled about Barry by any means, but I'm not going all "sky is falling!" about it. This one is on Gruden. That is good. We're stuck with him for a bit, so the more that's on him the better. This is his staff now. We have a calendar year to see where he goes with it.
I'm in the ship has sailed on gruden camp. I'd prefer to see him gone, sooner rather than later. While I didn't expect to see him get the boot after 1yr, I hope his hiring of this DC seals his fate next offseason. Does it make me a bad guy to want the team to struggle this upcoming yr just so gruden will get fired? Maybe.Secondly, its great that the HC actually got to hire his own DC. Novel concept for our organization.
No. To want to see the team struggle is the only way to feel success rooting for this team.
 
Awesome hire. Could not have found anyone better. This guys track record...he's definitely the savior this defense needs.
To be fair (if we are doing that thing these days), dude was given crap to work with thanks to Matt Millen. Plus I assume he's learned some things along the way. SD's DC was no slouch, so he must have picked up some good things working with him. I read this earlier today:

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/14845/jarret-johnson-high-on-redskins-defensive-coordinator-joe-barry

That's all I got....
Barry could end up being a good DC. He is young and relatively unproven.

As I stated earlier, the Redskin coaching staff is short on experience and success. Therefore, I would have liked them to hire a more experience DC, who has a history of success. Vic Fangio and Wade Phillips both fit that description.

I like the Bill Callahan hire for the same reasons. With Jay Gruden is among the youngest and least experienced head coaches. Sean McVay is the youngest and least experienced OC in the NFL. They really need experience on the offensive side of the ball. Hopefully Callahan will help.

They also need to hire an experienced QB coach. Someone who can work with Griffin and Cousins full time.

 
Good time for a Bary puff piece, imo.

Jarret Johnson high on Redskins defensive coordinator Joe BarryJanuary, 21, 2015JAN 21
2:15
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By John Keim | ESPN.com
The move energized Jarret Johnson's career in a way he didn't anticipate. After nine years in the NFL, playing for a perennially-strong defense in Baltimore, Johnson was ingrained in his ways and his thoughts.

He said that changed in San Diego, playing for linebackers coach Joe Barry.

"I thought I was an educated guy and my three years with him, it was like going back to being a rookie again," Johnson said by phone. "I learned a whole different side of football and techniques and ways to play the game. It really gave me a boost in my career and another jolt of energy because he's so intense. ...It was fun to me."

The Washington Redskins hired Barry as their new defensive coordinator Tuesday, replacing the fired Jim Haslett. Barry comes with a good reputation as a linebackers coach, but also with a blot on his resume: defenses that ranked 32nd in both total yards and points in each of his two seasons as Detroit's defensive coordinator in 2007-08. The latter season resulted in an 0-16 mark, though one coach in Detroit from that time called Barry a good coach and refused to blame him for the failures. Still, that mark leaves Redskins fans wondering if this was a wise move.

Those in San Diego believe it will be a good one for Washington.

"This is a great opportunity for a bright, young, energetic football coach. Joe is extremely detailed and organized," San Diego defensive coordinator John Pagano said at the Senior Bowl."He's demanding on his players, pushing them to excel to their fullest capabilities. The players will love playing for Joe."

Barry has experience in the Tampa-2, 4-3 scheme and the 3-4. Johnson said that led to him using multiple fronts and schemes and blitz patterns.

"He has a ton of energy," said Johnson, who played the past three years in San Diego. "He's a hard-working guy, a late-night guy. He's going to work his ### off. He'll do everything in his power to make sure the players are as prepared as can be. A lot of coaches are super intense and all about football but sometimes that doesn't correlate and they don't get along with players. The best thing is, [barry] has a good balance of interaction with players. He's everyone's favorite coach as well as being one of the most intense on the staff."

Johnson called Barry one of his best friends in the building, saying that he balances having a demanding personality yet also being approachable.

"I've had a lot of coaches that were super intense and demanding and you didn't get along with him because they were do demanding all they wanted to talk about was football," Johnson said.

From an X's and O's perspective, Johnson said Barry's experience coaching at Southern California in 2010 also helped when game planning to stop zone-read teams (that didn't help as much vs. Washington in 2013: The Redskins had 13 zone-read carries for 94 yards in a 30-24 win. The Chargers allowed 5.71 yards per carry vs. this look in 2013 and 3.87 this past season, according to ESPN Stats & Information).

Johnson said not to judge Barry just by his Detroit days.

"I don't know a lot about that situation," Johnson said. "You can't blame it on one guy. I do know he learned a lot that year.

"I know it's an 0-16 season that people will look at. If they judge off that they'll be sorely mistaken. He's way better than that year. He'll bust his ### and do a great job. You're not getting some sly dude who will take the job and lay down and be happy. He's never satisfied."
 
Marvelous said:
jbz said:
Awesome hire. Could not have found anyone better. This guys track record...he's definitely the savior this defense needs.
To be fair (if we are doing that thing these days), dude was given crap to work with thanks to Matt Millen. Plus I assume he's learned some things along the way. SD's DC was no slouch, so he must have picked up some good things working with him. I read this earlier today:

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/14845/jarret-johnson-high-on-redskins-defensive-coordinator-joe-barry

That's all I got....
Barry could end up being a good DC. He is young and relatively unproven.

As I stated earlier, the Redskin coaching staff is short on experience and success. Therefore, I would have liked them to hire a more experience DC, who has a history of success. Vic Fangio and Wade Phillips both fit that description.

I like the Bill Callahan hire for the same reasons. With Jay Gruden is among the youngest and least experienced head coaches. Sean McVay is the youngest and least experienced OC in the NFL. They really need experience on the offensive side of the ball. Hopefully Callahan will help.

They also need to hire an experienced QB coach. Someone who can work with Griffin and Cousins full time.
Need a QB coach badly.

Gruden tried to do too much his 1st year. He was HC, called play and the defacto QB coach. That's more than what a rookie HC should be doing IMO. Let McVay handle the play calling. Then bring in an experienced QB coach to get RG3/Cousins/McCoy/whoever ready to roll. Then Gruden can focus on being the HC and not doing 100 other things.

 
If you take away OC/play calling/QB coaching duties for Gruden, he really isn't doing anything but talking ##### about his players to the press. What purpose does he serve?

 
If you take away OC/play calling/QB coaching duties for Gruden, he really isn't doing anything but talking ##### about his players to the press. What purpose does he serve?
I like him doing less. He should be overseeing the entire operation. One reason I wanted them to hire Wade was he has experience and can act independently from Gruden. Gruden just strikes me as such a buffoon. This coaching staff doesn't have much experience and that concerns me

 
I am noting how many very experienced defensive coaches are out there.

I said earlier that the Redskins could have trouble hiring a top notch DC with Gruden possibly only being around for one more season. Coaches would prefer to come into a stable situation. And clearly the Redskin's coaching positions are not stable.

Another possibility: Maybe Gruden is scared to hire a well qualified person, fearing that it gives the front office a readily available interim head coach if he struggles next season.

Here are some of the recent defensive hires in the NFL:

Eric Mangini - hired to be DC 49ers

Fangio/Donatrell - hired to be DC Bears

Dennis Allen - hired by Saints as Sr. Defensive Asst

Wade Phillips - leading candidate for Broncos DC

Mike Smith - leading candidate for Raiders DC

 
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I am noting how many very experienced defensive coaches are out there.

I said earlier that the Redskins could have trouble hiring a top notch DC with Gruden possibly only being around for one more season. Coaches would prefer to come into a stable situation. And clearly the Redskin's coaching positions are not stable.

Another possibility: Maybe Gruden is scared to hire a well qualified person, fearing that it give the front office a readily available interim head coach if he struggles next season.

Eric Mangini - hired to be DC 49ers

Fangio/Donatrell - hired to be DC Bears

Dennis Allen - hired by Saints as Sr. Defensive Asst

Wade Phillips - leading candidate for Broncos DC

Mike Smith - leading candidate for Raiders DC
I think one of your scenarios is right. Both make me sad.
 
Updates on the Redskins defensive coaching staff:

DL coach Jacob Burney is not being retained.

OLB coach Brian Baker is not being retained.

DB coach Raheem Morris is expected to become a senior defensive assistant in Atlanta.

Only ILB coach Kirk Olivadotti is expected to return.

It is probably good that they are changing over the defensive coaching staff. And it is good that Barry has been given say on who his assistant coaches will be.

 
What's the deal with Olivadotti? That guy survives every coaching change.
Olivadotti left the Redskins and Gruden brought him back.

With Morris expected to leave, Gruden will have turned over most of the coaching staff, with Sean McVay the only coach staying from the Shanahan era. It is just odd that it took two years to do it. This is now Gruden's coaching staff.

I am not sure it ever works out well when a new guy comes in and inherits a coaching staff. Tomsula was promoted from DB coach to 49er head coach and he fired all of the other coaches.

 
DB coach Raheem Morris is expected to become a senior defensive assistant in Atlanta.
Official per the Post:

Washington’s defensive staff has lost another key member, with defensive backs coach Raheem Morris accepting a larger role with the Atlanta Falcons, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

The move, which will make Morris assistant head coach and director of Atlanta’s pass defense, will reunite Morris with the Falcons’ incoming head coach Dan Quinn, who’ll complete his duties as Seattle’s defensive coordinator in Sunday’s Super Bowl.

Morris had played for Quinn during his collegiate career at Hofstra.
 
I wouldn't call Morris a "key" member of the defense
he had experience and sometimes thats good, the devil you know over the devil you dont sort of thing. granted his defensive principles seemed dated and the corners were very inconsistent, but i cant think of a coach in the league that could fix our secondary. now haslett and morris were pretty bad, but just wait till joe barry tries to scheme our personal for cruz and odb, ill be watching through my fingers.

 
MattFancy said:
Perry Fewell on as DC coach
Fewell is the Defensive Backs coach. He has experience as a DC and has interviewed for head coaching jobs. Then he was fired as the DC for the Giants after last season.

Other than that, I have no idea how good he is.

 
MattFancy said:
Perry Fewell on as DC coach
Fewell is the Defensive Backs coach. He has experience as a DC and has interviewed for head coaching jobs. Then he was fired as the DC for the Giants after last season.

Other than that, I have no idea how good he is.
Haha brain fart yesterday. Definitely mean DB coach.

Seems like a decent hire, but you're right, we don't really know how he'll fit into what Barry wants to do.

 
overall, good job w/ the coaching staff hires this offseason.

still would like to see a QB coach, like some have said.

nice to see a HC actually make the hires of his staff, too.

 
overall, good job w/ the coaching staff hires this offseason.

still would like to see a QB coach, like some have said.

nice to see a HC actually make the hires of his staff, too.
I thought I saw one of Keim's tweets saying the team is still searching for a QB coach. Not sure who they have interviewed, but it sounded like they were still looking.

 
overall, good job w/ the coaching staff hires this offseason.

still would like to see a QB coach, like some have said.

nice to see a HC actually make the hires of his staff, too.
I thought I saw one of Keim's tweets saying the team is still searching for a QB coach. Not sure who they have interviewed, but it sounded like they were still looking.
Done

The #Redskins announced they have hired Matt Cavanaugh as their QBs coach. This was something they've wanted to do since, oh, November.
 
overall, good job w/ the coaching staff hires this offseason.

still would like to see a QB coach, like some have said.

nice to see a HC actually make the hires of his staff, too.
I thought I saw one of Keim's tweets saying the team is still searching for a QB coach. Not sure who they have interviewed, but it sounded like they were still looking.
Done

The #Redskins announced they have hired Matt Cavanaugh as their QBs coach. This was something they've wanted to do since, oh, November.
Good to hear! Guess I have some Googling to do.

 
Some Redskin thoughts after watching the Super Bowl, since McCloughin has a big role in shaping the Seahawks roster.

1. The Seahawks and Redskins are really polar opposites in many ways.

2. The Seahawks have a very talented defense. The Redskins, to put it mildly, do not.

3. There is no starker contrast than looking at the safety position. The Seahawks have Kam Chancellor who was picked in the 5th round in the 2010 draft and Earl Thomas, drafted with the 14th overall pick in the 2010 draft. The Redskins have Brandon Merriweather and Ryan Clark, both playing on the veteran minimum and one year stop gap measures.

4. There is also a start contrast at wide receiver. On yesterday's broadcast, they said every Seattle wr was an undrafted free agent. The Redskins top three wide receivers were all big free agent signings (Garcon, Jackson, and Roberts). Furthermore, Moss came to Washington via trade of a big restricted free agent signing (Laverneous Coles).

During the entire game, in the back of my mind, I am hoping the Redskins McCloughin can draft better players and the Redskins will look more like the Seahawks in a 3-5 years.

 
Marvelous said:
Some Redskin thoughts after watching the Super Bowl, since McCloughin has a big role in shaping the Seahawks roster.

1. The Seahawks and Redskins are really polar opposites in many ways.

2. The Seahawks have a very talented defense. The Redskins, to put it mildly, do not.

3. There is no starker contrast than looking at the safety position. The Seahawks have Kam Chancellor who was picked in the 5th round in the 2010 draft and Earl Thomas, drafted with the 14th overall pick in the 2010 draft. The Redskins have Brandon Merriweather and Ryan Clark, both playing on the veteran minimum and one year stop gap measures.

4. There is also a start contrast at wide receiver. On yesterday's broadcast, they said every Seattle wr was an undrafted free agent. The Redskins top three wide receivers were all big free agent signings (Garcon, Jackson, and Roberts). Furthermore, Moss came to Washington via trade of a big restricted free agent signing (Laverneous Coles).

During the entire game, in the back of my mind, I am hoping the Redskins McCloughin can draft better players and the Redskins will look more like the Seahawks in a 3-5 years.
I feel like they have the personnel people in place to accomplish that. However I have zero confidence in the coaching staff.

 
Many people have stated that needs should have some role in how a team drafts. I have stated I think Best Player available with very few exceptions is the way to go. So I thought I would look at this another way.

The Redskins have a new GM. A GM's job is to get players, but also have a more long term view of the team. So I started thinking who on the current roster will be here in three years. That would be really make it start of the 2018 season. Assuming we can keep players from leaving via free agency if we want to, here are my thoughts:

OL: Trent Williams, maybe Kory Litchensteiger, maybe Morgan Moses or Spencer Long if either develops

QB: maybe Robert Griffin or Kirk Cousins if either develops, although I think both are long shots at this point.

WR: maybe Ryan Grant if he develops. I have previously said I don't think Garcon, Jackson, and Roberts are here for the long term.

TE: maybe Jordan Reed if he can stay healthy. Maybe Niles Paul for special teams.

RB: maybe Silas Redd is he develops. I think the odds are against Alfred Morris

FB: maybe Darrell Young, but he will be hitting 30 then

DL: maybe Chris Baker. The Redskins needs new players sooner rather than later here.

LB: Ryan Kerrigan, Keenan Robinson (both free agents after 2015), Trent Murphy

CB: Bashaud Breeland, David Amerson

S: none (unless Trenton Robinson is a special teams keeper

So long term, lots of positions to fill. LB maybe the best position on the team and one position to shy away from during the draft.

 
Many people have stated that needs should have some role in how a team drafts. I have stated I think Best Player available with very few exceptions is the way to go. So I thought I would look at this another way.

The Redskins have a new GM. A GM's job is to get players, but also have a more long term view of the team. So I started thinking who on the current roster will be here in three years. That would be really make it start of the 2018 season. Assuming we can keep players from leaving via free agency if we want to, here are my thoughts:

OL: Trent Williams, maybe Kory Litchensteiger, maybe Morgan Moses or Spencer Long if either develops

QB: maybe Robert Griffin or Kirk Cousins if either develops, although I think both are long shots at this point.

WR: maybe Ryan Grant if he develops. I have previously said I don't think Garcon, Jackson, and Roberts are here for the long term.

TE: maybe Jordan Reed if he can stay healthy. Maybe Niles Paul for special teams.

RB: maybe Silas Redd is he develops. I think the odds are against Alfred Morris

FB: maybe Darrell Young, but he will be hitting 30 then

DL: maybe Chris Baker. The Redskins needs new players sooner rather than later here.

LB: Ryan Kerrigan, Keenan Robinson (both free agents after 2015), Trent Murphy

CB: Bashaud Breeland, David Amerson

S: none (unless Trenton Robinson is a special teams keeper

So long term, lots of positions to fill. LB maybe the best position on the team and one position to shy away from during the draft.
Shockingly there is so many needs again that BPA should apply to all but a few positions. This is the first year I don't find myself getting excited about much of anything Redskins oriented.
 
Just imagine for a second that the Skins were talented enough to make the super bowl. Now imagine how much Gruden and the Skins staff would have been out-couched by Belichick and co.

 
Best thing that can happen for skins is cooper, williams, or mariota fall to 5 and some team wants them enough to trade. Desperately need picks in the first 4 rounds.

 
Agreed. The best pick, IMO, would be one resulting in MORE picks. This is a relatively deep draft, and we have so many diverse needs...

 
So apparently at the NFL Combine Jay Gruden has declared Super Bob the starter for beginning of the season. Fair QB competition my ###. :bs:

Meanwhile Shanny is doing an interview on the Sports Fix right now that has been going on for about an hour. If you get past the "To be honest with you" assumption that he is telling the truth it is interesting.

 
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RG3 SHOULD be the starter. I mean come on, even the biggest hater has to look at McCoy and Cousins and see there really isn't a competition here. If you want to go with another QB, you get one via FA or the draft. But Cousins and McCoy aren't franchise QBs.

 
Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

 
Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him
Good Damn posting. there needs to be a competition, I don't see how Griffin doesn't beat out McCoy and Cousins.
 
Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him
I wouldn't say they gave him the job. All he said was Robert was the #1 at the end of the season and he is the #1 going into the season. He never said RG3 was guaranteed the job or that he was even the Week 1 starter. I don't have a problem with Robert being the #1 right now. Someone technically has to be atop the depth chart.

 
Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him
I wouldn't say they gave him the job. All he said was Robert was the #1 at the end of the season and he is the #1 going into the season. He never said RG3 was guaranteed the job or that he was even the Week 1 starter. I don't have a problem with Robert being the #1 right now. Someone technically has to be atop the depth chart.
too much has been handed to him. I'm not saying he'll still fail but I would have liked Gruden to just say "we don't have a #1 right now. It'll be a competition in Training Camp." As long as they make the decision timely in TC I'd be happy.
 
RG3 SHOULD be the starter. I mean come on, even the biggest hater has to look at McCoy and Cousins and see there really isn't a competition here. If you want to go with another QB, you get one via FA or the draft. But Cousins and McCoy aren't franchise QBs.
Cousins threw for 100 yards per game more than RG3 last year.

 

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