Ministry of Pain
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When is the protagonist going to show up?
This definitely feels like a show that reddit is going to "crack" within the next couple of weeksInteresting theory I've seen.
Maybe the way to reverse or disable the hive is with harmonics. Clues include how the opening theme is sung in unison and how at the end of the last episode when they are all saying " Please Carol" all out of sync.
I think we do but I am hoping for something unexpectedI assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
That first one seems like a real dumb theory. No offenseI've seen some interesting on-line theories
Carol -
a descendent of an alien from the same planet that escaped that planet - I assume this would mean all the non-hive minds have similar ancestry
End game for hive-mind -
From many, one. Ultimately the goal is to reach just a single vessel to host the hive mind, and then also eliminate the need for killing animals for survival or mass agriculture, thus preserving the earth's resources
That seems too easy for this show. Also, it took her a minute to get her shocked face after lifting up the plastic. Like it wasn't immediately recognizable whatever it wasNo? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
I believe Gilligan said the show won’t be focused on the aliens so I don’t think it’s going to be that.That first one seems like a real dumb theory. No offenseI've seen some interesting on-line theories
Carol -
a descendent of an alien from the same planet that escaped that planet - I assume this would mean all the non-hive minds have similar ancestry
End game for hive-mind -
From many, one. Ultimately the goal is to reach just a single vessel to host the hive mind, and then also eliminate the need for killing animals for survival or mass agriculture, thus preserving the earth's resources
No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?

It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
Maybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
They would need a hell of a lot of freezer space to freeze 8 billion peopleMaybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
even more reason to vacuum seal them to make space.They would need a hell of a lot of freezer space to freeze 8 billion peopleMaybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
Not buying it. Again, if that was a full human body she would have recognized it immediately and not stared at it for 20 seconds before her aha momenteven more reason to vacuum seal them to make space.They would need a hell of a lot of freezer space to freeze 8 billion peopleMaybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
I get that they wouldn't care at all about what they're wearing, but assuming they are actual bodies they would need to shower/bathe over time. I assume these aren't pod bodies because the sex-craved survivor presumably would have discovered differently after sleeping with so many of them. They indicate they are vegetarian so presumably the body still needs sustenance.Maybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?

I think the number dead is somewhere around 900 million. And there are refrigerator/freezers all over the world. All the dead aren't in Albuquerque. People walking around aren't "pod" people. We saw they come back to "living" from their seizure state relatively quickly after infection in the first episode. I think the delay was her putting the pieces of the puzzle together, realizing that the hive people are using human remains to nourish themselves.They would need a hell of a lot of freezer space to freeze 8 billion peopleMaybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
I was only referring to the improbability of filling freezers with 8 billion people. If they are human remains its gotta be something that isn't immediately recognizable. Like some organs, or skin, or something. If it was just a body, or some arms and legs, I think she immediately reactsI think the number dead is somewhere around 900 million. And there are refrigerator/freezers all over the world. All the dead aren't in Albuquerque. People walking around aren't "pod" people. We saw they come back to "living" from their seizure state relatively quickly after infection in the first episode. I think the delay was her putting the pieces of the puzzle together, realizing that the hive people are using human remains to nourish themselves.They would need a hell of a lot of freezer space to freeze 8 billion peopleMaybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
I could see how a world where nothing is about you would be disturbing.So I had a dream/nightmare last night where I was in the Pluribus world and the only conscious human. My wife had to wake me up because apparently I was whimpering, "**** no" over and over. Don't remember much else, but it was disturbing.![]()
Please tell me you started a topic on this.*I venture to say that I am one of only a few to have ever observed an actual "bag of dicks."![]()
I have not. Though I should clarify I did not eat anything.Please tell me you started a topic on this.*I venture to say that I am one of only a few to have ever observed an actual "bag of dicks."![]()
I think they said many more died than they anticipated because they had to expedite the process.Another reason i am skeptical that it is human bodies. They are vegetarians. They seemed somewhat shocked that as many people died as they did when they took over. What was their plan if nobody really died when the hive mind took over? What was going to sustain them considering they won't kill any animals for food/sustenance?
This is why I think what they are consuming is like ground up spinal fluids or something. They can split proverbial hairs that way and claim that non-meat products are still their primary source of calories as they are like grilling up somebody's calf muscle. They also probably wouldn't need as many dead bodies this way if they are consuming just a portion of the dead body for a limited purpose.Another reason i am skeptical that it is human bodies. They are vegetarians. They seemed somewhat shocked that as many people died as they did when they took over. What was their plan if nobody really died when the hive mind took over? What was going to sustain them considering they won't kill any animals for food/sustenance?
She's been through a **** ton of freaky things within the past week. She knows there are 900 million dead. She has seen several dead bodies and even moved them around. It is possible she is just not fazed by dead bodies at this point and the delayed shock reaction was her putting the pieces together that they are being used as a food source. When she realizes that, then the reaction kicks in.I was only referring to the improbability of filling freezers with 8 billion people. If they are human remains its gotta be something that isn't immediately recognizable. Like some organs, or skin, or something. If it was just a body, or some arms and legs, I think she immediately reactsI think the number dead is somewhere around 900 million. And there are refrigerator/freezers all over the world. All the dead aren't in Albuquerque. People walking around aren't "pod" people. We saw they come back to "living" from their seizure state relatively quickly after infection in the first episode. I think the delay was her putting the pieces of the puzzle together, realizing that the hive people are using human remains to nourish themselves.They would need a hell of a lot of freezer space to freeze 8 billion peopleMaybe it is the actual human bodies and the ones walking around are pod people. Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It is odd that most of the ones walking around are still dressed in what they had on when their minds were altered. For example, the tall guy that Carol invited into her home was dressed for cycling.or maybe they were vacuum sealed or something and it wasn't easily recognizable at first?It can't be bodies. It was just a large commercial refrigerator with tons of produce and other foods. Wouldn't human bodies start rotting even in a refrigerator after a couple weeks or however long it's been?No? I was guessing some kind of body but idk.I assume we all know what was under those plastic sheets?
Always have to be paying attention.
And again she doesn't immediately get shocked. She lifts the plastic up and looks at it for like 20 seconds. If it was human bodies or parts of bodies wouldn't you recognize that immediately?
They said the PREFER to be vegetarian. They never said they wouldn't eat meat. They just won't kill for it. But already dead animals/humans...it's efficiency.Another reason i am skeptical that it is human bodies. They are vegetarians. They seemed somewhat shocked that as many people died as they did when they took over. What was their plan if nobody really died when the hive mind took over? What was going to sustain them considering they won't kill any animals for food/sustenance?
No, that would be him chowing down on Alpo out of the can.They needed those giant *** dishes to get the radio signal that was coming from millions of light years away. Is this guy's ham radio really gonna get that signal?Yeah, but we really don't know how it works and there's obviously something that can reverse it.Wasn't the radio signal just a list of ingredients to make the virus or whatever it is?I thought the cold open to episode 4 was classic Gilligan and really good. I am interested to learn more about our Paraguayan friend and what’s he’s up to with that radio. I don’t think he’s looking for survivors.
Starting to wonder if that original radio signal needs to keep broadcasting for the hive thing to work and that's what he's looking for.
I dont know. It's just speculation. Maybe they amplified it locally for it to work the way it does? I dont know what else the radio could be for if it isn't for listening for other immune people.
It could be that simple actually. The takeaway from that cold open was that he wrote down Carol's name and will most likely be looking for her. The radio wasn't really the important part of that scene.

You know, you don't HAVE to go online and look the show up. You can just watch and enjoy.If this becomes a show like LOST where there’s an entire culture of people obsessing over theories I’m out.
Task is new and excellent. Not sci-fi at all.Tangent but aren't most of the best shows on TV right now/recently sci-fi?
Severance, Silo, Foundation, For All Mankind, Fallout, The Last of Us, Andor, etc... I guess the argument on the other side is Hacks, Ted Lasso, The Bear, The White Lotus, Slow Horses, Only Murders in the Building, etc... but almost all of those seem to be diminishing as they go. (and I know there are mainstream shows like Abbott Elementary, St. Denis Medical, High Potential, etc.. as well)
I guess I'm curious what the never sci-fi people are watching these days but maybe I should take it to the Netflix thread.
I thought they only came in a box. At least that is what the song implied.
*I venture to say that I am one of only a few to have ever observed an actual "bag of dicks."![]()
I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
I believe that is only for a singular, still attached one. A medical-grade bag is apparently necessary to preserve multiple detached ones for medical research or human consumption.I thought they only came in a box. At least that is what the song implied.
*I venture to say that I am one of only a few to have ever observed an actual "bag of dicks."![]()
Not you though. You are the singular who can recognize a giant bag of dicks immediately. Should put that on your resume. It’s impressive.I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
Is a giant bag of dicks a large bag filled with normal sized dicks or a normal size bag filled with massive dicks? @Zow I need more info please.Not you though. You are the singular who can recognize a giant bag of dicks immediately. Should put that on your resume. It’s impressive.I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
Well it helped when the person showing it to me said, “Hey, want to see an actual bag of dicks? Haha”Not you though. You are the singular who can recognize a giant bag of dicks immediately. Should put that on your resume. It’s impressive.I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
Large, sturdier looking zip lock bag looking bag.Is a giant bag of dicks a large bag filled with normal sized dicks or a normal size bag filled with massive dicks? @Zow I need more info please.Not you though. You are the singular who can recognize a giant bag of dicks immediately. Should put that on your resume. It’s impressive.I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
That's one of the ways we differ....I would have said "No, I'm good".Well it helped when the person showing it to me said, “Hey, want to see an actual bag of dicks? Haha”Not you though. You are the singular who can recognize a giant bag of dicks immediately. Should put that on your resume. It’s impressive.I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
You must have been so excited. Like @shuke and @General Malaise excited for a bag full of big macsWell it helped when the person showing it to me said, “Hey, want to see an actual bag of dicks? Haha”Not you though. You are the singular who can recognize a giant bag of dicks immediately. Should put that on your resume. It’s impressive.I can attest that it will take a few seconds for the observer to recognize what he or she is seeing if so...I am just hoping it is in fact a giant bag of dicks
was coming in to reference Soylent Green."Soylent Green is people"