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squistion said:
Rasmussen? Okie Dokie.

Your claim that most people views blacks as being more racist than whites is not supported by your link.

Only 37% view most blacks as being racist, while 15% consider most whites racist.

That is a 22% difference and 22% may be a plurality, but it is not close to being a majority to qualify for the claim of  being most.

In addition, no numbers are given as to how many or what percentage of blacks view blacks as being more racist - yeah, I imagine there are some, so "even blacks" is technically true, but that could be less than 10%.  
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:lmao:  I should have known better than to engage you.

 
Higgs said:
:lmao:  I should have known better than to engage you.
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By posting a false claim about what a poll found?

You can't dispute what I have to say legitimately, so you misstated the poll results and provided a link figuring no one would actually read it (either that or Breitbart made the same claim and you ran with that). In any event, it was dishonest on your part and calls into question any conclusions on poll results you post in the future.

 
squistion said:
By posting a false claim about what a poll found?

You can't dispute what I have to say legitimately, so you misstated the poll results and provided a link figuring no one would actually read it (either that or Breitbart made the same claim and you ran with that). In any event, it was dishonest on your part and calls into question any conclusions on poll results you post in the future.
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Are you ####### kidding me?  We are in a debate about who is more racist - blacks or whites - and I say most people view blacks as racist.  And you take that to mean more than 50%???  Oh my God dude.  Talk about losing the forest through the trees.  It calls into question what your motivations are for posting in this place - to accumulate points on some weird scoreboard in your head or engaging in fruitful discussions with people to hopefully learn a few things.

By the way, you're not even right.  The first definition of "most" is in "the greatest quantity, amount, measure, degree, or number" - as in "to win the most votes".  And yes, I'll cite my source - ####### Dictionary.com.  Knowing you, you'll come back and say they are not a credible site.  :lmao:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/most

 
HellToupee said:
What is his next chapter , community organizer?
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He already has been helping those in the AA community by donating money to inner-city groups and organizations (of which I am sure you are aware). From a December article, he is making good on his pledge to donate $1 Million plus jersey sale proceeds:

https://theundefeated.com/features/colin-kaepernick-is-making-good-on-his-pledge-to-donate-1-million/

Colin Kaepernick is making good on his pledge to donate $1 million [...]

Kaepernick recently unveiled his website, which details his donations. The site houses an itemized list that informs visitors as to where the money was distributed. He said he started the website “to make sure not only that I’m transparent in what I’m doing, but that these organizations are transparent with where the money is going, as well.”

So far, $200,000 of the $1 million has been allocated. In October, Kaepernick dished out gifts of $25,000 each to the Silicon Valley De-Bug, Causa Justa/Just Cause, Urban Underground and Mothers Against Police Brutality. In November, in addition to his gift of $25,000 to the BYP100, he donated equal amounts to Gathering For Justice/ Justice League, Communities United for Police Reform and the I Will Not Die Young Campaign.

 
Higgs said:
Are you ####### kidding me?  We are in a debate about who is more racist - blacks or whites - and I say most people view blacks as racist.  And you take that to mean more than 50%???  Oh my God dude.  Talk about losing the forest through the trees.  It calls into question what your motivations are for posting in this place - to accumulate points on some weird scoreboard in your head or engaging in fruitful discussions with people to hopefully learn a few things.

By the way, you're not even right.  The first definition of "most" is in "the greatest quantity, amount, measure, degree, or number" - as in "to win the most votes".  And yes, I'll cite my source - ####### Dictionary.com.  Knowing you, you'll come back and say they are not a credible site.  :lmao:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/most
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We were never in that debate. I mentioned that most blacks believe there is systemic racism in this country and you counter with this weird non-sequitur that most people think blacks are more racist than whites, which we was not related to what I was talking about. I never said anything about how one group views another as far as racism goes.

And majority and most are synonyms - since you like dictionaries and first definitions:

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/thesaurus-category/american/majority-and-most

Majority and most - synonyms or related words


majority


noun

most of the people or things in a group

 
Ghost Rider said:
18 hours ago, squistion said:

If you ask most black people if there is systemic racism in the country, a majority will say yes. 
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That doesn't mean they are correct. 
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:mellow:  Um, well, no...what anyone believes doesn't mean it is correct.

But Higgs claimed the idea of systemic racism in this country has been completely debunked, citing a dubious Rasmussen poll which didn't confirm what he said it did because it had to do with perception, not necessarily reality. The 37% of people who say it doesn't exist doesn't mean they are correct either, if you want to be consistent.

My point was that most black people you talk to, believe that it does exist - because they experience it in their lives on a daily basis - something Higgs, myself or you (assuming you are white) never encounter or probably even have an awareness of.

 
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squistion said:
:mellow:  Um, well, no...what anyone believes doesn't mean it is correct.

But Higgs claimed the idea of systemic racism in this country has been completely debunked, citing a dubious Rasmussen poll which didn't confirm what he said it did because it had to do with perception, not necessarily reality. The 37% of people who say it doesn't exist doesn't mean they are correct either, if you want to be consistent.

My point was that most black people you talk to, believe that it does exist - because they experience it in their lives on a daily basis - something Higgs, myself or you (assuming you are white) never encounter or probably even have an awareness of.
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Why would you assume I am white? 

 
Props to Colin and all others in getting all of that food and water to Somalia. It's a shame there isn't more attention being given that situation.

 
Ilov80s said:
Props to Colin and all others in getting all of that food and water to Somalia. It's a shame there isn't more attention being given that situation.
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More on that for those unfamiliar with the story.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colin-kaepernick-is-helping-bring-food-and-water-to-the-people-of-somalia/

Colin Kaepernick is helping bring food and water to the people of Somalia

Colin Kaepernick may not have a new team or a new contract, but that’s not stopping him from putting his money where his mouth is. With the help of Ben Stiller’s charity, The Stiller Foundation, as well as several YouTube stars, Kaepernick is raising funds to fly food and water to people in Somalia.

As Kaepernick says in the video (at link) Turkish Airlines has granted a 60-ton cargo plane to fly to Somalia with food and water, for however long it takes to end the famine that is sweeping the country. They’ll be sending rice, vegetable cooking oil, nutritional biscuits, flour, sugar, and porridge.

Kaepernick is working directly with Love Army For Somalia, and the GoFundMe page they created specifies that Stiller’s foundation will receive and manage all donated funds, so people can be confident that every donated dollar goes to help those in need. 

As of this writing, the campaign has exceeded its $1 million funding goal in 22 hours. 

 
If there is any truth to the Bleach Report interview with the anonymous GM:

Full Dissident‏Verified account @hbryant42 Mar 18

If Kaepernick is completely blackballed, it says more about the NFL and its teams than him.

They're also using him to keep the rest in line.

 
Good tweet by more people I'm not familiar with by Squistion, Howard Bryant is the authority here.

Thanks @squistion

I looked him up, seems like a trustworthy fellow. I enjoy reading the opinions of people who strangle their wife in front of their children. Who else you following on that all-star roster of twitter that you always feel the need to share?

In 2011, Bryant agreed to a plea deal of six months pre-trial probation, after he was arrested and charged with domestic assault and battery, assault and battery on a police officer, and resisting arrest, following an incident with his wife.

According to a Massachusetts State Police report, witnesses claimed they saw Bryant place his hands on his estranged wife's neck and push her into a parked car outside a pizza parlor, while his 6-year-old son was in the back seat.

The state trooper wrote in his report, “Per the witnesses, the black male (Bryant) released the female when he observed my cruisers emergency lights.”

However, as part of the deal, Bryant's attorney and prosecutors agreed that a review of the evidence did not support witness allegations of violence, but Bryant admitted that police had probable cause to arrest him.

Bryant also apologized for giving the impression that race was a factor in the actions of police (Bryant is black and his wife is white) - an allegation initially leveled by his attorney.[3] [4] [5] [6]  @squistion
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fantasycurse42 said:
Good tweet by more people I'm not familiar with by Squistion, Howard Bryant is the authority here.

Thanks @squistion

I looked him up, seems like a trustworthy fellow. I enjoy reading the opinions of people who strangle their wife in front of their children. Who else you following on that all-star roster of twitter that you always feel the need to share?
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Classic  :lmao:

 
squistion said:
If there is any truth to the Bleach Report interview with the anonymous GM:

Full Dissident‏Verified account @hbryant42 Mar 18

If Kaepernick is completely blackballed, it says more about the NFL and its teams than him.

They're also using him to keep the rest in line.
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Agree. It says there is still some integrity left around the league. 

 
fantasycurse42 said:
Good tweet by more people I'm not familiar with by Squistion, Howard Bryant is the authority here.

Thanks @squistion

I looked him up, seems like a trustworthy fellow. I enjoy reading the opinions of people who strangle their wife in front of their children. Who else you following on that all-star roster of twitter that you always feel the need to share?
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:applause:

 
squistion said:
If there is any truth to the Bleach Report interview with the anonymous GM:

Full Dissident‏Verified account @hbryant42 Mar 18

If Kaepernick is completely blackballed, it says more about the NFL and its teams than him.

They're also using him to keep the rest in line.
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He also sucks.

 
Dedfin said:
Kaepernick sucks.  The NFL tends to blackball crappy players.
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Colin Fahey's extensive study of QBs/WRs would indicate otherwise (I posted his stats previously).

I am fairly certain that he will be starting again somewhere for another team within the next two seasons. If Fitzpatrick can keep getting shots and Glennon lands a decent starting gig, someone will take a chance on Kaep and there shouldn't be that much of a PR hit since he is will be standing for the anthem.

 
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squistion said:
Colin Fahey's extensive study of QBs/WRs would indicate otherwise (I posted his stats previously).

I am fairly certain that he will be starting again somewhere for another team within the next two seasons. If Fitzpatrick can keep getting shots and Glennon lands a decent starting gig, someone will take a chance on Kaep and there shouldn't be that much of a PR hit since he is will be standing for the anthem.
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I don't even care about the anthem business.  I know it's a factor for some people, but if I were a GM, I wouldn't be interested bc I think he isn't good.  Yeah, Fahey might disagree with me.  I still think he is a crap player.  I'm proud for the stance he took for the anthem, if that's what he wants to do, but that doesn't win football games.

 
RBM said:
squistion said:
If there is any truth to the Bleach Report interview with the anonymous GM:

Full Dissident‏Verified account @hbryant42 Mar 18

If Kaepernick is completely blackballed, it says more about the NFL and its teams than him.

They're also using him to keep the rest in line.
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Agree. It says there is still some integrity left around the league. 
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"Integrity" is judging a player by things other than his political beliefs. It doesn't take much integrity to take the easy way out and do what the rest of the herd does.

 
People keep forgetting he's also a backup level QB.  I don't blame any front office for not wanting him.  It's not worth it.  Also thought he showed alot by saying he would now stand for the anthem. He says this the day after he's released when he needs a job.  What a turd. 

 
I just love football so I'm going to put aside all the bs in this thread. Fwiw I followed the Tebow situation the same way. Going through the list of 2nd-3rd string QBs I always felt it was absurd that Tebow could not get a job somewhere. I mean, Ryan Lindley or Tim Tebow starting for the Cards? That defense and run game a couple years ago, Lindley over TT never made sense. Tebow over Luke McCown in NO? No thanks.

This is the current list of FA QBs.

The competition for the next signing is basically: Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown, Keenum, Shaun Hill, Gabbert, McGloin, Sanchez, Orlovsky, Kellen Moore, Ponder, Nassib, Yates, Austin Davis. - eta - Also, Chase Daniel.

You may say 'pfft' to some of these names, but consider how cheap they will be and the fact that none would see the field hopefully as backups, then consider Kaep and his salary history plus his demands to play, not to mention his pretty specialized talent set which frankly will not fit many traditional pocket or west coast offenses.

I don't know that Kaep's flag stand was so much about political beliefs as some may have considered it a manipulative ploy to force management's hand to not cut him. That might be a bigger deal to GM's and owners than any objection to his politics.

 
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Isn't his QBR below replacement value?  Who wants to sign a clipboard holder with the attendant baggage?  The only two places I could see would be SF (who didn't want him) and Seattle (who doesn't need him).  He made a choice which is admirable to stand (or sit) for his convictions, and if he is being blackballed at least he can be satisfied in knowing that he did what he thought was right regardless of the consequences.  I don't think he will be destitute any time in the near future if he had a good financial plan in place.

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
Isn't his QBR below replacement value?  Who wants to sign a clipboard holder with the attendant baggage?  The only two places I could see would be SF (who didn't want him) and Seattle (who doesn't need him).  He made a choice which is admirable to stand (or sit) for his convictions, and if he is being blackballed at least he can be satisfied in knowing that he did what he thought was right regardless of the consequences.  I don't think he will be destitute any time in the near future if he had a good financial plan in place.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

On the one hand, he was ranked 23rd out of 30 qualifying QBs in 2016. On the other hand, the same system rates him higher than Ryan Tannehill, Cam Newton, and Eli Manning. So, maybe ESPN could tweak their metrics a bit??

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
Isn't his QBR below replacement value?  Who wants to sign a clipboard holder with the attendant baggage?  The only two places I could see would be SF (who didn't want him) and Seattle (who doesn't need him).  He made a choice which is admirable to stand (or sit) for his convictions, and if he is being blackballed at least he can be satisfied in knowing that he did what he thought was right regardless of the consequences.  I don't think he will be destitute any time in the near future if he had a good financial plan in place.
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He will be dead broke within 5 years of being out of the league.  Bank on it

 
Colin Fahey? All I can find on that name is a guy who help design NCAA 2001, is this the guy Squistion is referring to?

Since Squish doesn't understand this stuff, I'll help him out:

Kaep looks like he weighs 190 soaking wet right now. He was closer to 230 when he was actually respectable numerous years ago. Nobody wants to roll the dice on a controversial QB, who hasn't been good in years, that will prob be hurt after 4 games. You know, because running QB's need to be built like Cam Newton, not Kevin Durant.

 
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Oh yea integrity/blackballing/etc.

Pretty sure Joe Mixon will get a shot somewhere (and I hope the guy has a career ending injury on his first preseason carry). You know why? Simply bc any player will get a shot if a team thinks he can help them win on the field. 

Nobody will deal with a controversial player who most likely can't help them. If teams thought they could win with this guy, he'd be signed already.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
Colin Fahey? All I can find on that name is a guy who help design NCAA 2001, is this the guy Squistion is referring to?

Since Squish doesn't understand this stuff, I'll help him out:

Kaep looks like he weighs 190 soaking wet right now. He was closer to 230 when he was actually respectable numerous years ago. Nobody wants to roll the dice on a controversial QB, who hasn't been good in years, that will prob be hurt after 4 games. You know, because running QB's need to be built like Cam Newton, not Kevin Durant.
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That was a typo, his first name is Cian and I posted several of his tweets with Kaep stat information before that, but anyway:

Here is some bio information about Cian, including stuff about Pre Snap Reads, The Interceptable Passes Project and Pre-Snap Reads Quarterback Catalogue

http://presnapreads.com/about-cian-fahey-owner-of-pre-snap-reads/

 
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need2know said:
People keep forgetting he's also a backup level QB.  I don't blame any front office for not wanting him.  It's not worth it.  Also thought he showed alot by saying he would now stand for the anthem. He says this the day after he's released when he needs a job.  What a turd. 
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Because nobody on here has ever toed the line to get/keep a job.  Get out of here with that bull####.

 
[scooter] said:
"Integrity" is judging a player by things other than his political beliefs. It doesn't take much integrity to take the easy way out and do what the rest of the herd does.
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The game is difficult enough so NFL teams do not like "distractions & noise" around the team. That is why certain players no matter how talented bounce around from team to team.  And for CK to announce he will stand after becoming an UFA is very disingenuous on his part.

 
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