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Like, there are morons working in the NFL aren't there? I swear, coaching and management in pro sports generally is full of lucky chancers who live off other people's talent.
This was a stupid pick.Hard to swallow now, but big picture I love this pick. Cousins is really on a 3 YR, $135M deal. Packer playbook move.
Packers never used a top 10 pick to make this move.This was a stupid pick.Hard to swallow now, but big picture I love this pick. Cousins is really on a 3 YR, $135M deal. Packer playbook move.
True, and very true.Packers never used a top 10 pick to make this move.This was a stupid pick.Hard to swallow now, but big picture I love this pick. Cousins is really on a 3 YR, $135M deal. Packer playbook move.
There is a gulf of value between pick #8 and a late first.
You hate to see it.
According to NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah, Kirk Cousin’s agent was not told that the Falcons planned to draft Michael Penix with the eighth pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
Speaking during NFL Network’s live draft coverage, Jeremiah mentioned that he reached out to Cousin’s agent, Mike McCartney, who said that neither he nor Cousins were given a heads-up by the Falcons that they were going to take Penix. Considering the Falcons just signed Cousins to a four-year, $180 million contract, the fact that the Falcons would draft a quarterback in the first round and also not tell Cousins is doubly shocking. Penix is also one of the older quarterbacks in the class at 24 years old, so he’ll be 28 by the time Cousins’ contract is over. This certainly doesn’t seem like a situation where the Falcons plan to have both players on the roster for a long time, but what their exact plan is remains anybody’s guess.
not sure you can really tell him prior to the pick as you don't want to run the risk of word getting outAccording to NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah, Kirk Cousin’s agent was not told that the Falcons planned to draft Michael Penix with the eighth pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
Speaking during NFL Network’s live draft coverage, Jeremiah mentioned that he reached out to Cousin’s agent, Mike McCartney, who said that neither he nor Cousins were given a heads-up by the Falcons that they were going to take Penix. Considering the Falcons just signed Cousins to a four-year, $180 million contract, the fact that the Falcons would draft a quarterback in the first round and also not tell Cousins is doubly shocking. Penix is also one of the older quarterbacks in the class at 24 years old, so he’ll be 28 by the time Cousins’ contract is over. This certainly doesn’t seem like a situation where the Falcons plan to have both players on the roster for a long time, but what their exact plan is remains anybody’s guess.
It's not just the NFL. I've worked in Corporate America since '94. I've probably worked at a dozen big companies either as a contractor or full time. My summation is this - people "at the top" really only have one skill: endurance. They are willing to stay through the bull**** that other people aren't and they end up being the last person standing.Like, there are morons working in the NFL aren't there? I swear, coaching and management in pro sports Generally is full of lucky chancers who live off other people's talent.
Said Aaron Rodgers.Something not mentioned here is how unhappy Penix is and will be. He went from being a sure starter to a benchwarmer for YEARS while his classmates are performing and increasing their value. And he’s sitting there watching his career being wasted.
Penix is probably only sitting for 1 year.Said Aaron Rodgers.Something not mentioned here is how unhappy Penix is and will be. He went from being a sure starter to a benchwarmer for YEARS while his classmates are performing and increasing their value. And he’s sitting there watching his career being wasted.
Of course it's not great for Penix. But that's short term vision. It may work out very well.
what a colossal error by super villain blank’s falcons. penix is 24 in 2 weeks. realistically, cousins has a 3 year deal, unless you want 90mm in dead cap now, 50mm in 2025 or 25mm in 2026. you only have 12.5mm dead after the 3rd year, but then penix is 27 having not played with a decision on his expiring rookie deal looming. at least by sitting for 3 years he can’t retear his ACLs or dislocate his shoulders. so there’s that.Penix is probably only sitting for 1 year.Said Aaron Rodgers.Something not mentioned here is how unhappy Penix is and will be. He went from being a sure starter to a benchwarmer for YEARS while his classmates are performing and increasing their value. And he’s sitting there watching his career being wasted.
Of course it's not great for Penix. But that's short term vision. It may work out very well.
Ha! Right? Amended slightly to. . . that Kirk (and his superagent) will. . .I have zero doubts that Kirk will be able to turn this situation into another huge payday.
I always love the hypocrisy with QBs.Said Aaron Rodgers.Something not mentioned here is how unhappy Penix is and will be. He went from being a sure starter to a benchwarmer for YEARS while his classmates are performing and increasing their value. And he’s sitting there watching his career being wasted.
Of course it's not great for Penix. But that's short term vision. It may work out very well.
He'll just have to find a way to enjoy his multimillion dollar salary. It's gonna be rough but I think he can do itSomething not mentioned here is how unhappy Penix is and will be. He went from being a sure starter to a benchwarmer for YEARS while his classmates are performing and increasing their value. And he’s sitting there watching his career being wasted.
I didn't like the pick at all yesterday.what a colossal error by super villain blank’s falcons. penix is 24 in 2 weeks. realistically, cousins has a 3 year deal, unless you want 90mm in dead cap now, 50mm in 2025 or 25mm in 2026. you only have 12.5mm dead after the 3rd year, but then penix is 27 having not played with a decision on his expiring rookie deal looming. at least by sitting for 3 years he can’t retear his ACLs or dislocate his shoulders. so there’s that.Penix is probably only sitting for 1 year.Said Aaron Rodgers.Something not mentioned here is how unhappy Penix is and will be. He went from being a sure starter to a benchwarmer for YEARS while his classmates are performing and increasing their value. And he’s sitting there watching his career being wasted.
Of course it's not great for Penix. But that's short term vision. It may work out very well.
It's not just the NFL. I've worked in Corporate America since '94. I've probably worked at a dozen big companies either as a contractor or full time. My summation is this - people "at the top" really only have one skill: endurance. They are willing to stay through the bull**** that other people aren't and they end up being the last person standing.Like, there are morons working in the NFL aren't there? I swear, coaching and management in pro sports Generally is full of lucky chancers who live off other people's talent.
but if they eat cousins next year isn’t it a 50mm cap hit?Kirk Cousins job hasn't changed. It's playoffs. 10-7 in that conference gets them there.
What he does this year determines what happens next year.
Was anyone going to trade up to 1.07 to snipe Penix?not sure you can really tell him prior to the pick as you don't want to run the risk of word getting outAccording to NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah, Kirk Cousin’s agent was not told that the Falcons planned to draft Michael Penix with the eighth pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
Speaking during NFL Network’s live draft coverage, Jeremiah mentioned that he reached out to Cousin’s agent, Mike McCartney, who said that neither he nor Cousins were given a heads-up by the Falcons that they were going to take Penix. Considering the Falcons just signed Cousins to a four-year, $180 million contract, the fact that the Falcons would draft a quarterback in the first round and also not tell Cousins is doubly shocking. Penix is also one of the older quarterbacks in the class at 24 years old, so he’ll be 28 by the time Cousins’ contract is over. This certainly doesn’t seem like a situation where the Falcons plan to have both players on the roster for a long time, but what their exact plan is remains anybody’s guess.
possibly. a lot of teams were reportedly interested. who knows if the reports are accurate or not but no reason to take the riskWas anyone going to trade up to 1.07 to snipe Penix?not sure you can really tell him prior to the pick as you don't want to run the risk of word getting outAccording to NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah, Kirk Cousin’s agent was not told that the Falcons planned to draft Michael Penix with the eighth pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
Speaking during NFL Network’s live draft coverage, Jeremiah mentioned that he reached out to Cousin’s agent, Mike McCartney, who said that neither he nor Cousins were given a heads-up by the Falcons that they were going to take Penix. Considering the Falcons just signed Cousins to a four-year, $180 million contract, the fact that the Falcons would draft a quarterback in the first round and also not tell Cousins is doubly shocking. Penix is also one of the older quarterbacks in the class at 24 years old, so he’ll be 28 by the time Cousins’ contract is over. This certainly doesn’t seem like a situation where the Falcons plan to have both players on the roster for a long time, but what their exact plan is remains anybody’s guess.
Do you mean 2025 cut? Post June 1st that would be $40 Million.but if they eat cousins next year isn’t it a 50mm cap hit?Kirk Cousins job hasn't changed. It's playoffs. 10-7 in that conference gets them there.
What he does this year determines what happens next year.
post 6/1, but those things confuse me…..either way, don’t draft a guy if you need to take a 40-50mm cap hit to have him play. i am shuked.Do you mean 2025 cut? Post June 1st that would be $40 Million.but if they eat cousins next year isn’t it a 50mm cap hit?Kirk Cousins job hasn't changed. It's playoffs. 10-7 in that conference gets them there.
What he does this year determines what happens next year.
The four seasons prior to the Packers selecting Rodgers with a late first they went 12-4, 12-4, 10-6 and 10-6 making the playoffs each of those years.Hard to swallow now, but big picture I love this pick. Cousins is really on a 3 YR, $135M deal. Packer playbook move.
He's also never torn his Achilles tendon, and he's getting a downgrade in weapons around him. QB18 seems pretty fair to me.Currently ranked as QB18, since taking over for RG3 in 2015, his only season below that was last year, when he finished QB24, in only 8 games! He has never been below QB18 PPG.
We don't have alot of data on QB's tearing their Achilles, but the most famous is probably Dan Marino. He tore his in game 5 when he was 32. He came back the next year and threw for more yards and more TD's than he did the previous 7 seasons. Dan played until age 38. The other QB I found was Vinny Testaverde, who tore his at age 35. The next year he came back and threw for his 2nd most yards of his career, and continued playing until age 44. Are there other QB's who have Achilles tears that I am forgetting? It would be nice to have more than just 2 QB's to compare.He's also never torn his Achilles tendon, and he's getting a downgrade in weapons around him. QB18 seems pretty fair to me.
Yeah, I’m not at all concerned about this injury.We don't have alot of data on QB's tearing their Achilles, but the most famous is probably Dan Marino. He tore his in game 5 when he was 32. He came back the next year and threw for more yards and more TD's than he did the previous 7 seasons. Dan played until age 38. The other QB I found was Vinny Testaverde, who tore his at age 35. The next year he came back and threw for his 2nd most yards of his career, and continued playing until age 44. Are there other QB's who have Achilles tears that I am forgetting? It would be nice to have more than just 2 QB's to compare.He's also never torn his Achilles tendon, and he's getting a downgrade in weapons around him. QB18 seems pretty fair to me.
The Falcons gave Cousins a mega-contract on 13 Mar 2024, and drafted Penix on 25 Apr 2024. They already knew Cousins had tore his Achilles, so unless they learned his leg had fallen off in the 43 day gap, I have to believe they want Penix to learn for a year (or more), like the Packers did with both Rodgers and Love.Yeah, I’m not at all concerned about this injury.We don't have alot of data on QB's tearing their Achilles, but the most famous is probably Dan Marino. He tore his in game 5 when he was 32. He came back the next year and threw for more yards and more TD's than he did the previous 7 seasons. Dan played until age 38. The other QB I found was Vinny Testaverde, who tore his at age 35. The next year he came back and threw for his 2nd most yards of his career, and continued playing until age 44. Are there other QB's who have Achilles tears that I am forgetting? It would be nice to have more than just 2 QB's to compare.He's also never torn his Achilles tendon, and he's getting a downgrade in weapons around him. QB18 seems pretty fair to me.
Penix being drafted is the only cause for concern imo. Partly because they wanted him, partly because they may have felt they needed him.
Well, I tore my achilles about 15 years ago and it ruined my pickup basketball career but I can still throw darts in the back yard with a mini football to my son and his friends. So that should go into your research of another QB not affected by an achilles tear.I am serious when I ask this question - besides Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Dan Marino, and Vinny Testaverde, can anyone name another QB that tore their Achilles in the past 30 years? I have searched and can find players at other positions, but not QB. Anyone?
They're just trying to distract him from the fact Michael Penix will be starting sooner than later.Falcons Let Kirk Cousins Set The Practice Music For Birthday
Love that they're leaning into this. So smart.
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They're just trying to distract him from the fact Michael Penix will be starting sooner than later.Falcons Let Kirk Cousins Set The Practice Music For Birthday
Love that they're leaning into this. So smart.
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It's a good question. Could be zero. Could be 17. If I were a Cousins manager in fantasy I would be very concerned about the Falcons making Penix a healthy scratch last week and already announcing they won't play him this week. Why put him in bubble wrap if you don't intend to use him soon?They're just trying to distract him from the fact Michael Penix will be starting sooner than later.Falcons Let Kirk Cousins Set The Practice Music For Birthday
Love that they're leaning into this. So smart.
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Ha! What's your over / under for when Penix starts without an injury to Cousins?