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QB Will Levis, TEN (1 Viewer)
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Birdie048
Footballguy
I had to search if this was posted before ... but I guess it was not new intel ...
I think this might just drop him out of 1st round discussions...
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BobbyLayne
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
ESPN's Matt Miller reports the Colts have QB Will Levis ahead of QB Anthony Richardson because Levis is "more likely to play right away."
With the fourth pick of the first round, the Colts are almost certain to select a quarterback, and it seems Levis' pro readiness makes him the favorite to go ahead of the rawer Richardson, who blew away scouts at the NFL Combine. Levis would compete with Gardner Minshew for Week 1 starting duties in Indianapolis and would eventually become the team's starter if Minshew lands the Week 1 gig and struggles for a stretch. The inaccurate Levis would likely be bad news for Michael Pittman and the rest of the Colts' pass catchers.
Faust
MVP
Funny how Levis is almost 24 and being talked about as a top 2-5 pick and Trey Lance is almost 23 but only worth a 3rd or 4th rounder. Would rather have Lance.All he needs now is Jamarcus’ sizurup recipe and he’ll be ready for the Raiders!He can, right into double coverage.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not sure I’d want either tbh
Just saying how the value is skewed because one is the new thing.
massraider
Footballguy
Last time he played back to back games was like 4 years ago. I don't even know what he looks like as a player right now.
He's more of an idea or a concept right now. He's a theory.
And Levis is an inaccurate college QB playing against kids two years younger than him in most cases. Not exactly a proven commodity. Not touting Lance, but saying the perceived value difference is really skewed.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
why?
@darrenrovell
Big movement in NFL Draft over night. Will Levis moved from 50/1 to 20/1 to go #1 overall at @PointsBetUSA.
Just moved again to 10/1.
@darrenrovell
Big movement in NFL Draft over night. Will Levis moved from 50/1 to 20/1 to go #1 overall at @PointsBetUSA.
Just moved again to 10/1.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Also +125 to go 2nd overall at drafkings.
massraider
Footballguy
Carolina might be tossing some chum to try and recoup some capital from HOU. Casting about, and seeing if HOU bites on swapping spots.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This topic discussion may help explain the sudden line movement: https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...tirement-announcement-wednesday.798452/page-2
Zow
Footballguy
What's funny is that on another Ringer podcast Solak rails against the idea that Levis will be a superstar QB because he didn't even make many "bigtime throws" in college while on a team that relied on him making bigtime throws. So, yeah, it does seem like Levis is likely to be a Jimmy G with Cousins as his ceiling after a couple of years to develop.
Is that worth a top 5 pick?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Lance will be entering the third year on his rookie deal. Levis will have five years left. That's a significant factor in the price tag(s).
massraider
Footballguy
People were as sure of Josh Allen's bust-ness as they are of Levis.
Regarding your question, and Solak (who's a putz):
I saw an article where an analytics guy was saying that Levis attempted more tight quarters passed than any QB. His receivers sucked. His line, sucked. Levis threw a lot of NFL passes
It's very fair to wonder Levis would have done throwing to 5 NFL WRs, like Stroud did, behind NFL OTs.
Zow
Footballguy
I hope my post didn't give the impression that Levis will be a bust. I think he has a fair ceiling of Cousins who, despite his flaws and subpar primetime performances, is nowhere near a "bust" and is having a very good career. I also wouldn't think Jimmy G is a "bust" either. Both are viable starters and I think Levis can be, too.
Again, I think it's a fair question as to whether a Kirk Cousins* is worth a #1 pick. I don't know that answer.
*I.e. a very good QB but not a superstar QB that can carry an entire team on his back like a Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, etc.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
If this isn't just smoke and Levis is #1 then I wouldn't doubt a draft day trade from the Panthers a la Rivers/Manning or something like that.
massraider
Footballguy
No, probably not worth it. But if he is Cousins or Carr, that's good enough for everyone involved to keep their jobs.I hope my post didn't give the impression that Levis will be a bust. I think he has a fair ceiling of Cousins who, despite his flaws and subpar primetime performances, is nowhere near a "bust" and is having a very good career. I also wouldn't think Jimmy G is a "bust" either. Both are viable starters and I think Levis can be, too.
Again, I think it's a fair question as to whether a Kirk Cousins* is worth a #1 pick. I don't know that answer.
*I.e. a very good QB but not a superstar QB that can carry an entire team on his back like a Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, etc.
If you are Chris Ballard, and have a new young coach, drafting Cousins sounds pretty great right now.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
I concur. Please be true.
massraider
Footballguy
A Reddit post.
One Reddit post.
I think rookie contract Kirk Cousins, would be considered a top-10 overall asset in the NFL, and well worth the #1 pick.I hope my post didn't give the impression that Levis will be a bust. I think he has a fair ceiling of Cousins who, despite his flaws and subpar primetime performances, is nowhere near a "bust" and is having a very good career. I also wouldn't think Jimmy G is a "bust" either. Both are viable starters and I think Levis can be, too.
Again, I think it's a fair question as to whether a Kirk Cousins* is worth a #1 pick. I don't know that answer.
*I.e. a very good QB but not a superstar QB that can carry an entire team on his back like a Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, etc.
Personally, I think the Cousins level player is more likely to be Stroud, but the point remains, that is worth a lot. The issue with Cousins has never been his play (which is in the B/B- range) its his play vs the cost. If Cousins had spent his Vikings run making 1/3rd of what he does, only the most unrealistic of Viking fans would have a problem with him.
I couldn't see any scenario like that. That only happened because Manning refused to play for the Chargers. Had nothing to do with team preference. As far as we know, and we'd have heard something by now, nobody is refusing to play in Carolina.
I will say, if Levis goes #1, everyone will forget the Texans winning in week 18 last year, as they'll either get the best prospect in Young, or trade the pick for someone else who wants Young.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Mad world
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Richardson? Levis? Why the Colts' preferred QB in NFL draft has been tough to pin down
Brent Sobleski
@brentsobleski
Seriously, if CJ Stroud falls into the Colts' lap after months of everyone assuming they HAD to trade up--either to No. 1 or 3--and still land this year's QB1, Chris Ballard will deserve significant praise for his patience and far more apologies. We'll see. But it's fascinating.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
This guy was the pawn of the 2023 predraft process. Just move him all over the board. 4th, first overall, falling to the mid-first, favored to go #2, back to falling again. lol
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Why? That makes no sense to me. Trade all the way up to #1 just so you can draft a player to use as a bargaining chip?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I may have to accept that the Colts may take him at 4. I already said if they take AR at 4 I would pucker up for the cows. I've already said I am a huge UK fan (grew up there) and have been against the Colts taking him, but if they do I will just hope they know what they are doing.
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