RB De’Von Achane, MIA (4 Viewers)

[-OZ-]

Right. And neither is Achane.

That’s where we disagree.

 

[kutta]

Achane had 10 games over 18 points last year and finished 5th in total points for RB’s. That’s solid for a supposedly injury prone little dude.

 

[JohnnyU]

Achane had 10 games over 18 points last year and finished 5th in total points for RB’s. That’s solid for a supposedly injury prone little dude.

It’s not too late

 

[dickey moe]

i'm wondering if i can ship him for a 1st

I have him in 3 leagues and I'm trying to trade him everywhere

Can't get anything good for him.

That's mind boggling to me. There aren't 20 players overall I'd rather have than Achane. I'd take Achane over anyone in this draft class other than Jeanty. A 23-year-old who wins both rushing and receiving, and has shown high TD rates, high big play rates, and elite receiving chops. He's RB5 in my ranks. This is Jamaal Charles all over again.

I respect most of what you post, but let's tap the brakes a bit. He is one Tua hit away from being an RB2.

You think Achane's production relies on Tua?

I believe it dipped quite a bit once Tua got hurt.

 

[kutta]

i'm wondering if i can ship him for a 1st

I have him in 3 leagues and I'm trying to trade him everywhere

Can't get anything good for him.

That's mind boggling to me. There aren't 20 players overall I'd rather have than Achane. I'd take Achane over anyone in this draft class other than Jeanty. A 23-year-old who wins both rushing and receiving, and has shown high TD rates, high big play rates, and elite receiving chops. He's RB5 in my ranks. This is Jamaal Charles all over again.

I respect most of what you post, but let's tap the brakes a bit. He is one Tua hit away from being an RB2.

You think Achane's production relies on Tua?

I believe it dipped quite a bit once Tua got hurt.

Weeks 3-7 are when Tua was out, and those were pretty much Achane’s worst weeks: 9, 6, 2, 0 (bye), 11

 

[travdogg]

i'm wondering if i can ship him for a 1st

I have him in 3 leagues and I'm trying to trade him everywhere

Can't get anything good for him.

That's mind boggling to me. There aren't 20 players overall I'd rather have than Achane. I'd take Achane over anyone in this draft class other than Jeanty. A 23-year-old who wins both rushing and receiving, and has shown high TD rates, high big play rates, and elite receiving chops. He's RB5 in my ranks. This is Jamaal Charles all over again.

I respect most of what you post, but let's tap the brakes a bit. He is one Tua hit away from being an RB2.

You think Achane's production relies on Tua?

I believe it dipped quite a bit once Tua got hurt.

Weeks 3-7 are when Tua was out, and those were pretty much Achane’s worst weeks: 9, 6, 2, 0 (bye), 11

Achane also had his high ankle sprain in that stretch too.

You can throw out the 2 I think, frankly, I wouldn't even count that as a game played. as he got knocked out with a concussion in the 1st quarter. He undoubtably would have had a much bigger game had that not happened, as Miami ran for 183 yards that week. Honestly, without that concussion, Achane likely tops 1,000 rushing yards last season.

 

[kface]

i'm wondering if i can ship him for a 1st

I have him in 3 leagues and I'm trying to trade him everywhere

Can't get anything good for him.

That's mind boggling to me. There aren't 20 players overall I'd rather have than Achane. I'd take Achane over anyone in this draft class other than Jeanty. A 23-year-old who wins both rushing and receiving, and has shown high TD rates, high big play rates, and elite receiving chops. He's RB5 in my ranks. This is Jamaal Charles all over again.

I respect most of what you post, but let's tap the brakes a bit. He is one Tua hit away from being an RB2.

You think Achane's production relies on Tua?

I believe it dipped quite a bit once Tua got hurt.

Weeks 3-7 are when Tua was out, and those were pretty much Achane’s worst weeks: 9, 6, 2, 0 (bye), 11

Achane also had his high ankle sprain in that stretch too.

You can throw out the 2 I think, frankly, I wouldn't even count that as a game played. as he got knocked out with a concussion in the 1st quarter. He undoubtably would have had a much bigger game had that not happened, as Miami ran for 183 yards that week. Honestly, without that concussion, Achane likely tops 1,000 rushing yards last season.

That's the thing - in 2 years he's been injured at least 5 times I can think of and been dogged by injuries for a number of weeks in which he played.

 

[-OZ-]

That's the thing - in 2 years he's been injured at least 5 times I can think of and been dogged by injuries for a number of weeks in which he played.

There’s risk for sure. But his upside is second only to the very elite like Saquon.

 

[Payne]

i'm wondering if i can ship him for a 1st

I have him in 3 leagues and I'm trying to trade him everywhere

Can't get anything good for him.

That's mind boggling to me. There aren't 20 players overall I'd rather have than Achane. I'd take Achane over anyone in this draft class other than Jeanty. A 23-year-old who wins both rushing and receiving, and has shown high TD rates, high big play rates, and elite receiving chops. He's RB5 in my ranks. This is Jamaal Charles all over again.

I respect most of what you post, but let's tap the brakes a bit. He is one Tua hit away from being an RB2.

You think Achane's production relies on Tua?

I believe it dipped quite a bit once Tua got hurt.

Weeks 3-7 are when Tua was out, and those were pretty much Achane’s worst weeks: 9, 6, 2, 0 (bye), 11

Achane also had his high ankle sprain in that stretch too.

You can throw out the 2 I think, frankly, I wouldn't even count that as a game played. as he got knocked out with a concussion in the 1st quarter. He undoubtably would have had a much bigger game had that not happened, as Miami ran for 183 yards that week. Honestly, without that concussion, Achane likely tops 1,000 rushing yards last season.

That's the thing - in 2 years he's been injured at least 5 times I can think of and been dogged by injuries for a number of weeks in which he played.

Exactly. More work = more risk. The talent is there. No doubt.

 

[Todem]

I guess mainly I was questioning Tua's importance because, long-term, you can expect them to have a decent QB. Tua's career could end today, and they could be screwed for this year, but they're going to get someone eventually. They're not the Jets.

Tell me……what makes you say The Dolphins will find someone.

It’s been 25 years….We are still waiting.

Lol.

 

[eighsse2]

I guess mainly I was questioning Tua's importance because, long-term, you can expect them to have a decent QB. Tua's career could end today, and they could be screwed for this year, but they're going to get someone eventually. They're not the Jets.

Tell me……what makes you say The Dolphins will find someone.

It’s been 25 years….We are still waiting.

Lol.

I suppose that's true, haha. A lot of teams can sign a veteran and do just fine. I guess I just assume they'd have as good a chance as any. But at some point you start to think the problem may be systematic rather than random.

 

[3nOut]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

 

[-OZ-]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I don’t want CMC going forward.

 

[eighsse2]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

McCaffrey in redraft.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Summary...
3-5 catches a week almost every single game, if the Phins trade both Smith and Hill then how could Achane's receptions go down?
Is it possible he could catch 100 passes as a RB in the National Football league?
He is a threat for almost 100 total yds each and every week he is healthy which he was almost all of 2024 so he's not brittle
Miami added Ollie Gordon in the 6th round, he only pushes Wright into the RB3 slot if he's really good.
Achane is 75% to score almost every week, 23 TDs in 28 games

180 carries, rebuilt IOL and he will rise up over 5 yds a clip
1,000 yds rushing
80 catches - 600 yds
10 total TDs

250-260+ touches, many of them thru the air and plenty of production without overworking this kid.
Still just 23 yrs old as this post is being written
ADP-18 overall so he's a Mid 2nd and makes a fantastic RB1 behind a stud WR like Puka Nacua, 10-team you could likely pair him with Justin Jefferson, giddy-up!

 

[-OZ-]

healthy which he was almost all of 2025

Love the optimism.
Any other information for us, time traveler?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

My brother was a competitive runner that suffered from bilateral tendonitis.

He doesn't quite get NFL levels of treatment, but he's a Bay area finance guy so he's not hurting for care, and he was very motivated to fix it. He's seen plenty of very expensive specialists.

As far as the results? Let's just say I will own CMC in exactly zero leagues this year.

 

[pinkstapler]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

Is neither an option, because that's what I would choose. Just posted in the CMC thread, but it applies here as well. When looking at who is actually going around these two RBs at the 1/2 turn in redraft, it's littered with WRs who have close to, if not the same, upside in fantasy PPG scoring with a TON less risk. Give me WRs early most years, but especially this year. I'll happily take a page out of the NFL handbook and run my rosters with a RB rotation of discounted rookies and "unexciting" RBs in the middle rounds. Shotgun approach, and just need one or two to hit out of the six or seven I'll draft. Besides, most years the "over replacement" scoring difference between RB 12 and RB24 is a lot less than between WR12 and WR24.

 

[Hoh]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

Is neither an option, because that's what I would choose. Just posted in the CMC thread, but it applies here as well. When looking at who is actually going around these two RBs at the 1/2 turn in redraft, it's littered with WRs who have close to, if not the same, upside in fantasy PPG scoring with a TON less risk. Give me WRs early most years, but especially this year. I'll happily take a page out of the NFL handbook and run my rosters with a RB rotation of discounted rookies and "unexciting" RBs in the middle rounds. Shotgun approach, and just need one or two to hit out of the six or seven I'll draft. Besides, most years the "over replacement" scoring difference between RB 12 and RB24 is a lot less than between WR12 and WR24.

Only issue with this approach is you often find yourself playing the matchups each week at RB. You’re probably better at it than I am but I suck at it.

 

[TripItUp]

The nice thing about Achane is that Wright is a pretty cheap handcuff.

 

[pinkstapler]

Many sites are ranking Achane and McCaffrey in the same tier. Given the choice, which way would you go?

Is neither an option, because that's what I would choose. Just posted in the CMC thread, but it applies here as well. When looking at who is actually going around these two RBs at the 1/2 turn in redraft, it's littered with WRs who have close to, if not the same, upside in fantasy PPG scoring with a TON less risk. Give me WRs early most years, but especially this year. I'll happily take a page out of the NFL handbook and run my rosters with a RB rotation of discounted rookies and "unexciting" RBs in the middle rounds. Shotgun approach, and just need one or two to hit out of the six or seven I'll draft. Besides, most years the "over replacement" scoring difference between RB 12 and RB24 is a lot less than between WR12 and WR24.

Only issue with this approach is you often find yourself playing the matchups each week at RB. You’re probably better at it than I am but I suck at it.

What's funny about that statement is when that happens, I normally consider it a win because it means I have actual options at RB haha. Most of the time taking this scattershot approach through the mid and late draft; by week 4 or so I quickly realize half of the RBs I took are barely rosterable so I normally don't have an issue knowing which to start. There are only 2-3 that are actually putting up meaningful points of the 7-8 I drafted. The bigger quandary is who to cut when running waivers each week; never fun cutting what seems like a clogger only to have the starter in front of them blocking their path get injured and vault them to starter numbers. Think I did just that twice in one year when SF was cycling through RBs like it was going out of style.

I honestly think I have a history of being much better educated guesser on WR projections than RB projections. This probably colors why I like taking this approach too. Easier for me to increase my odds of hitting a RB through sheer number of swings at the plate rather than improving my batting

 

[dipandglide]

The nice thing about Achane is that Wright is a pretty cheap handcuff.

Wright is one of the best values right now. Achane is a beast but isn't getting all the work.

 

[Faust]

@32BeatWriters

“This is my second straight offseason Achane has gotten this honor, and it’s not surprising considering he’s faster without pads than anyone else on the roster. His ability to catch passes and get upfield is eye-opening, and was on display Tuesday as he caught a short pass from Tua Tagovailoa and ran it 50-plus yards for a touchdown since nobody got within 10 yards of him.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1934577553508901196?s=61

 

[travdogg]

@32BeatWriters

“This is my second straight offseason Achane has gotten this honor, and it’s not surprising considering he’s faster without pads than anyone else on the roster. His ability to catch passes and get upfield is eye-opening, and was on display Tuesday as he caught a short pass from Tua Tagovailoa and ran it 50-plus yards for a touchdown since nobody got within 10 yards of him.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1934577553508901196?s=61

The comment that Achane is faster without pads than anyone on the roster is pretty interesting given Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle (both 4.3 guys) are on the team. Achane's talent is still underrated in my opinion. He's ELITE.

 

[King of the Jungle]

@32BeatWriters

“This is my second straight offseason Achane has gotten this honor, and it’s not surprising considering he’s faster without pads than anyone else on the roster. His ability to catch passes and get upfield is eye-opening, and was on display Tuesday as he caught a short pass from Tua Tagovailoa and ran it 50-plus yards for a touchdown since nobody got within 10 yards of him.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1934577553508901196?s=61

The comment that Achane is faster without pads than anyone on the roster is pretty interesting given Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle (both 4.3 guys) are on the team. Achane's talent is still underrated in my opinion. He's ELITE.

I hope they can assemble some better run blocking with their unit, it was maddening watching hit brick wall after brick wall last year.

 

[Payne]

Some of you may want to avoid reading Bloom's Top 250.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Some of you may want to avoid reading Bloom's Top 250.

Add him to the list of guys I disagree with, I guess.

The guy was super efficient in Year 1 with less volume and handled the beating of RB1 volume in year 2... if he was 2 inches taller with 15-20 pounds of muscle, everyone would be gushing over this guy and you wouldn't land him without two 1st rounders on the table.

At some point, you have to trust your eyes... The only thing you can write next to Achane's ranking to justify him being a 3rd round valuation is - "I don't trust his size".

If everyone opposing Achane, just keeps saying he will get injured because of his size, eventually - they will be right, because all RB's get injured.

 

[Payne]

Some of you may want to avoid reading Bloom's Top 250.

Add him to the list of guys I disagree with, I guess.

The guy was super efficient in Year 1 with less volume and handled the beating of RB1 volume in year 2... if he was 2 inches taller with 15-20 pounds of muscle, everyone would be gushing over this guy and you wouldn't land him without two 1st rounders on the table.

At some point, you have to trust your eyes... The only thing you can write next to Achane's ranking to justify him being a 3rd round valuation is - "I don't trust his size".

If everyone opposing Achane, just keeps saying he will get injured because of his size, eventually - they will be right, because all RB's get injured.

But he's not.

I feel it's a combination of his size, his usage (I think it's too much) and how much his numbers depend on Tua staying upright.
Not worth the risk to me. As I said before, I'll take Chase Brown, Jacobs, Bucky, Williams, etc. a round (maybe even 2) later.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Some of you may want to avoid reading Bloom's Top 250.

Add him to the list of guys I disagree with, I guess.

The guy was super efficient in Year 1 with less volume and handled the beating of RB1 volume in year 2... if he was 2 inches taller with 15-20 pounds of muscle, everyone would be gushing over this guy and you wouldn't land him without two 1st rounders on the table.

At some point, you have to trust your eyes... The only thing you can write next to Achane's ranking to justify him being a 3rd round valuation is - "I don't trust his size".

If everyone opposing Achane, just keeps saying he will get injured because of his size, eventually - they will be right, because all RB's get injured.

But he's not.

I feel it's a combination of his size, his usage (I think it's too much) and how much his numbers depend on Tua staying upright.
Not worth the risk to me. As I said before, I'll take Chase Brown, Jacobs, Bucky, Williams, etc. a round (maybe even 2) later.

So, we are downgrading him due to his high usage? That's a first for me but I am guessing this is a size related argument that we are deflecting as usage, but those are positives. If you have an NFL franchise telling you, we are going to use this guy until he can't go anymore because he is that valuable to our team... that is a positive.

I am not sure where you are seeing Chase Brown, Josh Jacobs, Bucky Irving, Kyren Williams (unless you are talking about Javonte) going a round or two behind guys like Achane but Achane has ADP of 7 and Kyren Williams is 12.5.

I am struggling with how Tua's health can be viewed as a negative. Do you discount WR's because their QB could be injured? McCarthy has missed more games than he's played in the NFL (see how I can change the narrative) and there is no guarantee he will be the QB throwing the ball to Jefferson all season. Should I take guys like Drake London, Brian Thomas Jr or AJ Brown over Justin Jefferson?

In the end, you do you... give me a guy with Achane's explosiveness (without question) over guys like Chase Brown & Kyren Williams... hands down, don't have to think about it. Jacobs has his own wrinkles that I am not going to layout in the Achane thread. The only one that I can say I would consider is Bucky Irving for Devon Achane and they are going 2 picks away from each other (according to ADP).

 

[Dez]

Some of you may want to avoid reading Bloom's Top 250.

Or you want to read it and do the opposite which is usually a winning strategy