RB TreVeyon Henderson, NE (1 Viewer)

[FarFromHome]

In my opinion it's Jeanty. Big gap. Then Hampton and Henderson. Big gap. I'd say on most days I take Hampton over Henderson. I can see the debate of Henderson over Hampton, but I'm not quite there yet. Hampton just feels like a true 3 down workhorse that's gonna get heavy use. Henderson feels like that electric playmaker that will get his in big chunks rather then heavy use. It's a good debate between the two.

 

[SanDawg]

In my opinion it's Jeanty. Big gap. Then Hampton and Henderson. Big gap. I'd say on most days I take Hampton over Henderson. I can see the debate of Henderson over Hampton, but I'm not quite there yet. Hampton just feels like a true 3 down workhorse that's gonna get heavy use. Henderson feels like that electric playmaker that will get his in big chunks rather then heavy use. It's a good debate between the two.

Agreed...Jeanty w/o saying is on top. But the next three for me the gap is very tight as you look at dynasty or keeper strategy. After that the bottom drops out. At least at RB right now.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I grabbed him at 3.8 in my draft last night. It was a round sooner than I hoped, but RBs were going hot and heavy so I had to make the leap or just not get him.
If anyone cares, here's where the main rookie RBs were drafted:
Jeanty 1.11
Hampton 3.2
Henderson 3.8
Harvey 4.6

 

[Smack Tripper]

He went 36th overall in my league last night, first real draft

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

 

[SanDawg]

Had our draft this past Sunday. 5 man keeper so that 1st round has turned into a rookie draft in the first round. Jeanty, Henderson, Hampton, TET, Hunter, EE top 6

 

[Lansdowne]

In case it helps, I picked Henderson at 1.03 in our rookie draft today.

Our order, so far:

1. Trains Warriors Ashton Jeanty, RB, Raiders
2. Step-Dads (from Buffalo Wild) Omarion Hampton, RB, Chargers
3. J Giles Band (from Burlington) TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Patriots
4. Dixie Normous Quinshon Judkins, RB, Browns
5. Buffalo Wild (from Step-Dads) Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Panthers
6. McLovin R.J. Harvey, RB, Broncos
7. Burlington Bruins (from J Giles) Travis Hunter, WR, Jaguars
8. Mountain Marauders Emeka Egbuka, WR, Buccaneers

Interesting...Judkins ahead of Tet, Hunter or even EE....

Yep... clearly the 'reach' of the draft thus far. Of course you might not have said that back in May. But had the news not broken this week that he wouldn't face charges, I was expecting Judkins to go late 1st / or more likely, early-to-mid 2nd round.

If this is IDP and Hunter is there after 1.01 I am taking him. Not that Henderson isn’t a great pick, but I gotta have that dual threat.

I passed on Hunter at 1.02 in IDP for Hampton

Oh man. I’m still debating Hunter or Henderson at 1.02 in non-IDP non-PPR (expecting Jeanty to go 1.01 of course). Big believer in both guys, leaning Hunter because stud WRs are near impossible to trade for in my league, have to draft them, I’ve had better luck finding RBs on waivers than WRs, and I’m not feeling great about next year’s draft class in general. Hard to shake this feeling that I’m going to make the wrong pick either way, lol

Update: I ended up making a deal and traded down from 1.02 to 1.04 and still landed Henderson. It went Jeanty, Hampton, Hunter, Henderson. Couldn't be happier.

 

[J Giles Band]

In case it helps, I picked Henderson at 1.03 in our rookie draft today.

Our order, so far:

1. Trains Warriors Ashton Jeanty, RB, Raiders
2. Step-Dads (from Buffalo Wild) Omarion Hampton, RB, Chargers
3. J Giles Band (from Burlington) TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Patriots
4. Dixie Normous Quinshon Judkins, RB, Browns
5. Buffalo Wild (from Step-Dads) Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Panthers
6. McLovin R.J. Harvey, RB, Broncos
7. Burlington Bruins (from J Giles) Travis Hunter, WR, Jaguars
8. Mountain Marauders Emeka Egbuka, WR, Buccaneers

Interesting...Judkins ahead of Tet, Hunter or even EE....

Yep... clearly the 'reach' of the draft thus far. Of course you might not have said that back in May. But had the news not broken this week that he wouldn't face charges, I was expecting Judkins to go late 1st / or more likely, early-to-mid 2nd round.

If this is IDP and Hunter is there after 1.01 I am taking him. Not that Henderson isn’t a great pick, but I gotta have that dual threat.

I passed on Hunter at 1.02 in IDP for Hampton

Oh man. I’m still debating Hunter or Henderson at 1.02 in non-IDP non-PPR (expecting Jeanty to go 1.01 of course). Big believer in both guys, leaning Hunter because stud WRs are near impossible to trade for in my league, have to draft them, I’ve had better luck finding RBs on waivers than WRs, and I’m not feeling great about next year’s draft class in general. Hard to shake this feeling that I’m going to make the wrong pick either way, lol

Update: I ended up making a deal and traded down from 1.02 to 1.04 and still landed Henderson. It went Jeanty, Hampton, Hunter, Henderson. Couldn't be happier.

Wow... that is good fortune. I am assuming you made that move with a good idea of your league draft board?

Congrats!

 

[rockaction]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

This Henderson hype is going crazy right now. I think Hampton is still clearly the play of the two personally.

We will see how things shake out!

 

[Lansdowne]

In case it helps, I picked Henderson at 1.03 in our rookie draft today.

Our order, so far:

1. Trains Warriors Ashton Jeanty, RB, Raiders
2. Step-Dads (from Buffalo Wild) Omarion Hampton, RB, Chargers
3. J Giles Band (from Burlington) TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Patriots
4. Dixie Normous Quinshon Judkins, RB, Browns
5. Buffalo Wild (from Step-Dads) Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Panthers
6. McLovin R.J. Harvey, RB, Broncos
7. Burlington Bruins (from J Giles) Travis Hunter, WR, Jaguars
8. Mountain Marauders Emeka Egbuka, WR, Buccaneers

Interesting...Judkins ahead of Tet, Hunter or even EE....

Yep... clearly the 'reach' of the draft thus far. Of course you might not have said that back in May. But had the news not broken this week that he wouldn't face charges, I was expecting Judkins to go late 1st / or more likely, early-to-mid 2nd round.

If this is IDP and Hunter is there after 1.01 I am taking him. Not that Henderson isn’t a great pick, but I gotta have that dual threat.

I passed on Hunter at 1.02 in IDP for Hampton

Oh man. I’m still debating Hunter or Henderson at 1.02 in non-IDP non-PPR (expecting Jeanty to go 1.01 of course). Big believer in both guys, leaning Hunter because stud WRs are near impossible to trade for in my league, have to draft them, I’ve had better luck finding RBs on waivers than WRs, and I’m not feeling great about next year’s draft class in general. Hard to shake this feeling that I’m going to make the wrong pick either way, lol

Update: I ended up making a deal and traded down from 1.02 to 1.04 and still landed Henderson. It went Jeanty, Hampton, Hunter, Henderson. Couldn't be happier.

Wow... that is good fortune. I am assuming you made that move with a good idea of your league draft board?

Congrats!

Yup! The guy picking 3rd was dead set on taking WR since he was loaded at RB. The only risk would've been if someone traded into that spot, but thankfully that didn't happen.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I probably would not. But no judgement. I don’t think there’s a wrong answer.

 

[steelwind]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I would rather take volume with Hampton (he is expected to be 3 down back, including goaline).
Henderson, with his college pedigree, has always done well being the lightning back with less carries. He will split with Stevenson.

His efficiency starts to tumble when he is the main volumn back.

 

[FarFromHome]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I still have Hampton over Henderson, but it's close. News of Henderson getting half the carries is interesting. If he can get 200 carries he is gonna outscore Hampton..

 

[FarFromHome]

I probably would not. But no judgement. I don’t think there’s a wrong answer.

There is always a wrong answer in this. It's math. Ha ha

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I still have Hampton over Henderson, but it's close. News of Henderson getting half the carries is interesting. If he can get 200 carries he is gonna outscore Hampton..

I didn’t see that as “news”. Most in here have been suggesting that for a while now. I’m also not sure it’s entirely accurate because game to game could flow with wild swings. Big scoring lead or deficit could dictate who’s getting touches, for example.

I saw that quote as kind of a coach-speaky kinda thing.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I probably would not. But no judgement. I don’t think there’s a wrong answer.

There is always a wrong answer in this. It's math. Ha ha

I meant they’re close enough that it becomes personal preference. Personally I believe Hampton is better suited to being a feature back, I have the LAC offense > Pats offense, and I think RS is better than Najee, so to me Hampton is the clear pick between the 2.

But others might see all 3 of those factors differently. Henderson is certainly an electric player, and has Gibbs-ian upside.

 

[steelwind]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I would rather take volume with Hampton (he is expected to be 3 down back, including goaline).
Henderson, with his college pedigree, has always done well being the lightning back with less carries. He will split with Stevenson.

His efficiency starts to tumble when he is the main volumn back.

His 2024 game log. Look at the games where he has 10 or more carries. More often than not, the more carries he gets, the less efficient he is.

Opponent	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD
Akron	8	65	8.1	0	2	18	9	0
Indiana	9	68	7.6	1	3	5	1.7	0
Iowa	11	61	5.5	0	2	2	1	0
Marshall	6	76	12.7	2	0	0		0
Michigan	10	21	2.1	0	2	25	12.5	0
Michigan State	7	69	9.9	0	2	-1	-0.5	0
Nebraska	10	25	2.5	0	0	0		0
Northwestern	11	74	6.7	0	2	19	9.5	0
Notre Dame	12	49	4.1	0	0	0		0
Oregon	18	181	10.1	2	5	24	4.8	0
Penn State	10	54	5.4	0	1	20	20	0
Purdue	6	85	14.2	1	3	43	14.3	0
Tennessee	10	80	8	2	4	54	13.5	0
Texas	6	42	7	0	1	75	75	1
Western Michigan	10	66	6.6	2	0	0		0

 

[J Giles Band]

In case it helps, I picked Henderson at 1.03 in our rookie draft today.

Our order, so far:

1. Trains Warriors Ashton Jeanty, RB, Raiders
2. Step-Dads (from Buffalo Wild) Omarion Hampton, RB, Chargers
3. J Giles Band (from Burlington) TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Patriots
4. Dixie Normous Quinshon Judkins, RB, Browns
5. Buffalo Wild (from Step-Dads) Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Panthers
6. McLovin R.J. Harvey, RB, Broncos
7. Burlington Bruins (from J Giles) Travis Hunter, WR, Jaguars
8. Mountain Marauders Emeka Egbuka, WR, Buccaneers

Interesting...Judkins ahead of Tet, Hunter or even EE....

Yep... clearly the 'reach' of the draft thus far. Of course you might not have said that back in May. But had the news not broken this week that he wouldn't face charges, I was expecting Judkins to go late 1st / or more likely, early-to-mid 2nd round.

If this is IDP and Hunter is there after 1.01 I am taking him. Not that Henderson isn’t a great pick, but I gotta have that dual threat.

I passed on Hunter at 1.02 in IDP for Hampton

Oh man. I’m still debating Hunter or Henderson at 1.02 in non-IDP non-PPR (expecting Jeanty to go 1.01 of course). Big believer in both guys, leaning Hunter because stud WRs are near impossible to trade for in my league, have to draft them, I’ve had better luck finding RBs on waivers than WRs, and I’m not feeling great about next year’s draft class in general. Hard to shake this feeling that I’m going to make the wrong pick either way, lol

Update: I ended up making a deal and traded down from 1.02 to 1.04 and still landed Henderson. It went Jeanty, Hampton, Hunter, Henderson. Couldn't be happier.

Wow... that is good fortune. I am assuming you made that move with a good idea of your league draft board?

Congrats!

Yup! The guy picking 3rd was dead set on taking WR since he was loaded at RB. The only risk would've been if someone traded into that spot, but thankfully that didn't happen.

Awesome man. I assumed as much. Love this move. Highlights the value of knowing the board. I think you did exceptionally well here. And that is without even knowing what you gained moving from #2 to #4. Anything would be gravy.

The intel gathering and these small victories moving up or back with a good idea you'll get your guy are some of the most fun I have with the draft and trading.

 

[LawFitz]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I would rather take volume with Hampton (he is expected to be 3 down back, including goaline).
Henderson, with his college pedigree, has always done well being the lightning back with less carries. He will split with Stevenson.

His efficiency starts to tumble when he is the main volumn back.

His 2024 game log. Look at the games where he has 10 or more carries. More often than not, the more carries he gets, the less efficient he is.

Opponent	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD
Akron	8	65	8.1	0	2	18	9	0
Indiana	9	68	7.6	1	3	5	1.7	0
Iowa	11	61	5.5	0	2	2	1	0
Marshall	6	76	12.7	2	0	0		0
Michigan	10	21	2.1	0	2	25	12.5	0
Michigan State	7	69	9.9	0	2	-1	-0.5	0
Nebraska	10	25	2.5	0	0	0		0
Northwestern	11	74	6.7	0	2	19	9.5	0
Notre Dame	12	49	4.1	0	0	0		0
Oregon	18	181	10.1	2	5	24	4.8	0
Penn State	10	54	5.4	0	1	20	20	0
Purdue	6	85	14.2	1	3	43	14.3	0
Tennessee	10	80	8	2	4	54	13.5	0
Texas	6	42	7	0	1	75	75	1
Western Michigan	10	66	6.6	2	0	0		0

Small sample sizes here, but even with that I see two games >10 carries at putrid YPC, one at a meh 4.1, then six others at a solid 5.4 or more. Plus two more games just below the arbitrary 10 carries mark with YPC > 7.5.

But none of that really even matters with a dude like this. On any given day, he'll avg 2.5 YPC for his first 11 carries and then break an 80 yarder with his twelfth and we'll bow on Monday at his 9 YPC that day. Like at Costco, beware small samples.

 

[Gally]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

What's best for your team is taking the best player regardless of position.

 

[Dez]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

What's best for your team is taking the best player regardless of position.

Except sometimes we don't know who is the best player until years later.

 

[FarFromHome]

Small sample sizes here, but even with that I see two games >10 carries at putrid YPC, one at a meh 4.1, then six others at a solid 5.4 or more. Plus two more games just below the arbitrary 10 carries mark with YPC > 7.5.

But none of that really even matters with a dude like this. On any given day, he'll avg 2.5 YPC for his first 11 carries and then break an 80 yarder with his twelfth and we'll bow on Monday at his 9 YPC that day. Like at Costco, beware small samples.

This. Good post. The fact u tied Costco in it is brilliant.

 

[Gally]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

What's best for your team is taking the best player regardless of position.

Except sometimes we don't know who is the best player until years later.

You never know at the time you draft so the best you can do is your homework and figure out what player you believe has the best chance to become a FF starter and then draft accordingly. That's all you can do.

My point is you have Henderson above Tet but take Tet because you need a WR then you are doing yourself a disservice by taking what you believe to be a lesser player. Rookies are a crap shoot as it is so taking lesser players makes it harder to hit on a rookie. It's more important to get a serviceable player than lessening your chance by taking a specific position because of "need".

 

[Lansdowne]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I would rather take volume with Hampton (he is expected to be 3 down back, including goaline).
Henderson, with his college pedigree, has always done well being the lightning back with less carries. He will split with Stevenson.

His efficiency starts to tumble when he is the main volumn back.

His 2024 game log. Look at the games where he has 10 or more carries. More often than not, the more carries he gets, the less efficient he is.

Opponent	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD
Akron	8	65	8.1	0	2	18	9	0
Indiana	9	68	7.6	1	3	5	1.7	0
Iowa	11	61	5.5	0	2	2	1	0
Marshall	6	76	12.7	2	0	0		0
Michigan	10	21	2.1	0	2	25	12.5	0
Michigan State	7	69	9.9	0	2	-1	-0.5	0
Nebraska	10	25	2.5	0	0	0		0
Northwestern	11	74	6.7	0	2	19	9.5	0
Notre Dame	12	49	4.1	0	0	0		0
Oregon	18	181	10.1	2	5	24	4.8	0
Penn State	10	54	5.4	0	1	20	20	0
Purdue	6	85	14.2	1	3	43	14.3	0
Tennessee	10	80	8	2	4	54	13.5	0
Texas	6	42	7	0	1	75	75	1
Western Michigan	10	66	6.6	2	0	0		0

Small sample sizes here, but even with that I see two games >10 carries at putrid YPC, one at a meh 4.1, then six others at a solid 5.4 or more. Plus two more games just below the arbitrary 10 carries mark with YPC > 7.5.

But none of that really even matters with a dude like this. On any given day, he'll avg 2.5 YPC for his first 11 carries and then break an 80 yarder with his twelfth and we'll bow on Monday at his 9 YPC that day. Like at Costco, beware small samples.

College production is one piece of the puzzle but we have to be careful about how much stock we put into it. Montee Ball was a monster at Wisconsin, but he didn't translate well to the NFL and the Broncos cut bait after only two seasons. Meanwhile Alvin Kamara rarely had a big workload in college, exceeding 20 touches only once and never leading the team in rushing yards. Nobody that took Kamara in their drafts as a rookie regretted it, as he ended up being a league winner especially at ADP.

What it comes down to is traits and whether they translate at the NFL level. Henderson has all the traits of an every-down NFL RB, and even his between-the-tackles work is surprising those who watch him regularly up close. I'd expect Stevenson and Henderson to alternate drives and eventually for Henderson to pull away and take the lion's share. If the Pats offense improves under McDaniels, then both RB's could be fantasy useful. But while I could see Stevenson capping Henderson's short term ceiling, the long term ceiling is sky high and wouldn't surprise me if the team moves on from Stevenson by next season. Don't get me wrong, I believe Stevenson is still a good NFL RB, fumbles not withstanding. I just think Henderson is way better.

 

[EBF]

I wasn't impressed with Hampton's clips when I took a look at him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll own up to it, but I got a Donald Brown vibe. A lot of combine athleticism that doesn't translate into anything too extraordinary on the field. As pedestrian as Najee has looked in the NFL, he's a Harbaugh type of back and I'd have some concern that he's going to be a pest in this situation. That speaks to my lack of faith in Hampton because Najee is the definition of mediocre. We have enough proof by now.

I think Henderson had more of a "wow" factor to his clips in college than Hampton. The situation is murky, but I like the risk/reward proposition if you can snare him as your RB2 in a PPR league. There's nice upside there. If he flops, you won't be totally dead because you can afford to miss on your RB2 if you hit on other picks.

The good news/bad news is that he has looked legit in the preseason. It's good news because that's what you want to see if you are a believer, but it's bad news because the secret is out. You might not be able to get him for cheap. I was targeting him in my redraft league, and got sniped by half a round. If the draft had happened a few weeks earlier, I think I would've been able to sneak him onto the roster.

 

[mrfrood]

Henderson is gonna do to Stevenson what Bucky did to White last year but more.

 

[rockaction]

I wasn't impressed with Hampton's clips when I took a look at him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll own up to it, but I got a Donald Brown vibe. A lot of combine athleticism that doesn't translate into anything too extraordinary on the field. As pedestrian as Najee has looked in the NFL, he's a Harbaugh type of back and I'd have some concern that he's going to be a pest in this situation. That speaks to my lack of faith in Hampton because Najee is the definition of mediocre. We have enough proof by now.

I think Henderson had more of a "wow" factor to his clips in college than Hampton. The situation is murky, but I like the risk/reward proposition if you can snare him as your RB2 in a PPR league. There's nice upside there. If he flops, you won't be totally dead because you can afford to miss on your RB2 if you hit on other picks.

The good news/bad news is that he has looked legit in the preseason. It's good news because that's what you want to see if you are a believer, but it's bad news because the secret is out. You might not be able to get him for cheap. I was targeting him in my redraft league, and got sniped by half a round. If the draft had happened a few weeks earlier, I think I would've been able to sneak him onto the roster.

I'm not as good or methodical as you are, but I've also been watching football seriously for a decade and have studied athleticism and athletic movements since I've been a kid. I don't like Hampton that much either. I'm just not impressed. I might be missing it (I missed it with Johnathan Taylor who got to the pros and blew me away), but I'm not seeing it right now. I don't hate him. At all. It's just that Henderson has always looked better to me. I was just worried about workload.

 

[FarFromHome]

I wasn't impressed with Hampton's clips when I took a look at him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll own up to it, but I got a Donald Brown vibe. A lot of combine athleticism that doesn't translate into anything too extraordinary on the field. As pedestrian as Najee has looked in the NFL, he's a Harbaugh type of back and I'd have some concern that he's going to be a pest in this situation. That speaks to my lack of faith in Hampton because Najee is the definition of mediocre. We have enough proof by now.

I think Henderson had more of a "wow" factor to his clips in college than Hampton. The situation is murky, but I like the risk/reward proposition if you can snare him as your RB2 in a PPR league. There's nice upside there. If he flops, you won't be totally dead because you can afford to miss on your RB2 if you hit on other picks.

The good news/bad news is that he has looked legit in the preseason. It's good news because that's what you want to see if you are a believer, but it's bad news because the secret is out. You might not be able to get him for cheap. I was targeting him in my redraft league, and got sniped by half a round. If the draft had happened a few weeks earlier, I think I would've been able to sneak him onto the roster.

I'm not as good or methodical as you are, but I've also been watching football seriously for a decade and have studied athleticism and athletic movements since I've been a kid. I don't like Hampton that much either. I'm just not impressed. I might be missing it (I missed it with Johnathan Taylor who got to the pros and blew me away), but I'm not seeing it right now. I don't hate him. At all. It's just that Henderson has always looked better to me. I was just worried about workload.

It the magical beauty of this thing we do. Different people with different opinions. I watched Hampton clips and just got an Eddie George Lite vibe. Imo

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

What's best for your team is taking the best player regardless of position.

Neither player has played a down in a real nfl game yet. In dynasty I have Henderson and Tet very close to each other, probably two picks apart. If I'm loaded at RB, I can easily justify taking Tet.
I like them both. I drafted both in my main redraft league, so no bias here.

 

[Gally]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

What's best for your team is taking the best player regardless of position.

Neither player has played a down in a real nfl game yet. In dynasty I have Henderson and Tet very close to each other, probably two picks apart. If I'm loaded at RB, I can easily justify taking Tet.
I like them both. I drafted both in my main redraft league, so no bias here.

If you have them the same then sure, break the tie based on team needs. If you have one ahead of the other take the higher one regardless of position. Nobody knows how they will do. They could both bust, they could both be all-pro's or anything in between. I just always take the player that I believe (based on my research) to have the best chance to succeed. I don't factor in position unless I really have two players tied (which is very rare).

 

[J Giles Band]

I wasn't impressed with Hampton's clips when I took a look at him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll own up to it, but I got a Donald Brown vibe. A lot of combine athleticism that doesn't translate into anything too extraordinary on the field. As pedestrian as Najee has looked in the NFL, he's a Harbaugh type of back and I'd have some concern that he's going to be a pest in this situation. That speaks to my lack of faith in Hampton because Najee is the definition of mediocre. We have enough proof by now.

I think Henderson had more of a "wow" factor to his clips in college than Hampton. The situation is murky, but I like the risk/reward proposition if you can snare him as your RB2 in a PPR league. There's nice upside there. If he flops, you won't be totally dead because you can afford to miss on your RB2 if you hit on other picks.

The good news/bad news is that he has looked legit in the preseason. It's good news because that's what you want to see if you are a believer, but it's bad news because the secret is out. You might not be able to get him for cheap. I was targeting him in my redraft league, and got sniped by half a round. If the draft had happened a few weeks earlier, I think I would've been able to sneak him onto the roster.

I'm not as good or methodical as you are, but I've also been watching football seriously for a decade and have studied athleticism and athletic movements since I've been a kid. I don't like Hampton that much either. I'm just not impressed. I might be missing it (I missed it with Johnathan Taylor who got to the pros and blew me away), but I'm not seeing it right now. I don't hate him. At all. It's just that Henderson has always looked better to me. I was just worried about workload.

It the magical beauty of this thing we do. Different people with different opinions. I watched Hampton clips and just got an Eddie George Lite vibe. Imo

Same... a Tarheel here, full disclosure (but rarely advocate for any of our players outside of Maye... last skill player I remotely liked was Giovani Bernard and even he was just ok). Hampton looked like the prototype bell cow back at UNC to me. Doesn't have blazing speed, but I like everything else about his profile.

That said, I happily picked Henderson at #3.

 

[rockaction]

I wasn't impressed with Hampton's clips when I took a look at him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll own up to it, but I got a Donald Brown vibe. A lot of combine athleticism that doesn't translate into anything too extraordinary on the field. As pedestrian as Najee has looked in the NFL, he's a Harbaugh type of back and I'd have some concern that he's going to be a pest in this situation. That speaks to my lack of faith in Hampton because Najee is the definition of mediocre. We have enough proof by now.

I think Henderson had more of a "wow" factor to his clips in college than Hampton. The situation is murky, but I like the risk/reward proposition if you can snare him as your RB2 in a PPR league. There's nice upside there. If he flops, you won't be totally dead because you can afford to miss on your RB2 if you hit on other picks.

The good news/bad news is that he has looked legit in the preseason. It's good news because that's what you want to see if you are a believer, but it's bad news because the secret is out. You might not be able to get him for cheap. I was targeting him in my redraft league, and got sniped by half a round. If the draft had happened a few weeks earlier, I think I would've been able to sneak him onto the roster.

I'm not as good or methodical as you are, but I've also been watching football seriously for a decade and have studied athleticism and athletic movements since I've been a kid. I don't like Hampton that much either. I'm just not impressed. I might be missing it (I missed it with Johnathan Taylor who got to the pros and blew me away), but I'm not seeing it right now. I don't hate him. At all. It's just that Henderson has always looked better to me. I was just worried about workload.

It the magical beauty of this thing we do. Different people with different opinions. I watched Hampton clips and just got an Eddie George Lite vibe. Imo

Same... a Tarheel here, full disclosure (but rarely advocate for any of our players outside of Maye... last skill player I remotely liked was Giovani Bernard and even he was just ok). Hampton looked like the prototype bell cow back at UNC to me. Doesn't have blazing speed, but I like everything else about his profile.

And I happily picked Henderson at #3.

I held my nose and picked Javonte Williams when he came out and I hated doing it, and I really should have listened to myself. I wound up trading him while he was still healthy for a nice return, but I never believed in that linebacker-turned-running back. I just wasn't buying in.

 

[J Giles Band]

I wasn't impressed with Hampton's clips when I took a look at him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll own up to it, but I got a Donald Brown vibe. A lot of combine athleticism that doesn't translate into anything too extraordinary on the field. As pedestrian as Najee has looked in the NFL, he's a Harbaugh type of back and I'd have some concern that he's going to be a pest in this situation. That speaks to my lack of faith in Hampton because Najee is the definition of mediocre. We have enough proof by now.

I think Henderson had more of a "wow" factor to his clips in college than Hampton. The situation is murky, but I like the risk/reward proposition if you can snare him as your RB2 in a PPR league. There's nice upside there. If he flops, you won't be totally dead because you can afford to miss on your RB2 if you hit on other picks.

The good news/bad news is that he has looked legit in the preseason. It's good news because that's what you want to see if you are a believer, but it's bad news because the secret is out. You might not be able to get him for cheap. I was targeting him in my redraft league, and got sniped by half a round. If the draft had happened a few weeks earlier, I think I would've been able to sneak him onto the roster.

I'm not as good or methodical as you are, but I've also been watching football seriously for a decade and have studied athleticism and athletic movements since I've been a kid. I don't like Hampton that much either. I'm just not impressed. I might be missing it (I missed it with Johnathan Taylor who got to the pros and blew me away), but I'm not seeing it right now. I don't hate him. At all. It's just that Henderson has always looked better to me. I was just worried about workload.

It the magical beauty of this thing we do. Different people with different opinions. I watched Hampton clips and just got an Eddie George Lite vibe. Imo

Same... a Tarheel here, full disclosure (but rarely advocate for any of our players outside of Maye... last skill player I remotely liked was Giovani Bernard and even he was just ok). Hampton looked like the prototype bell cow back at UNC to me. Doesn't have blazing speed, but I like everything else about his profile.

And I happily picked Henderson at #3.

I held my nose and picked Javonte Williams when he came out and I hated doing it, and I really should have listened to myself. I wound up trading him while he was still healthy for a nice return, but I never believed in that linebacker-turned-running back. I just wasn't buying in.

The Heels have had some really good college, skill position players in recent years: Javonte, Michael Carter, Dynami Brown, Devontez Walker, Eric Ebron, etc.

Good NFL depth guys (a few borderline starters)... but not great fantasy prospects.

 

[Jail]

I would take Henderson over Hampton at this point, I think. I think.

I would rather take volume with Hampton (he is expected to be 3 down back, including goaline).
Henderson, with his college pedigree, has always done well being the lightning back with less carries. He will split with Stevenson.

His efficiency starts to tumble when he is the main volumn back.

His 2024 game log. Look at the games where he has 10 or more carries. More often than not, the more carries he gets, the less efficient he is.

Opponent	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD
Akron	8	65	8.1	0	2	18	9	0
Indiana	9	68	7.6	1	3	5	1.7	0
Iowa	11	61	5.5	0	2	2	1	0
Marshall	6	76	12.7	2	0	0		0
Michigan	10	21	2.1	0	2	25	12.5	0
Michigan State	7	69	9.9	0	2	-1	-0.5	0
Nebraska	10	25	2.5	0	0	0		0
Northwestern	11	74	6.7	0	2	19	9.5	0
Notre Dame	12	49	4.1	0	0	0		0
Oregon	18	181	10.1	2	5	24	4.8	0
Penn State	10	54	5.4	0	1	20	20	0
Purdue	6	85	14.2	1	3	43	14.3	0
Tennessee	10	80	8	2	4	54	13.5	0
Texas	6	42	7	0	1	75	75	1
Western Michigan	10	66	6.6	2	0	0		0

Small sample sizes here, but even with that I see two games >10 carries at putrid YPC, one at a meh 4.1, then six others at a solid 5.4 or more. Plus two more games just below the arbitrary 10 carries mark with YPC > 7.5.

But none of that really even matters with a dude like this. On any given day, he'll avg 2.5 YPC for his first 11 carries and then break an 80 yarder with his twelfth and we'll bow on Monday at his 9 YPC that day. Like at Costco, beware small samples.

Yeah this is where I’m at. Both are good options. Swing for the fence with Henderson. For the safe pick take Hampton.

Hampton is a solid double at least. He’s going to get a lot of opportunities with a run first coach. It’s hard to imagine a total flop. I’d probably estimate his floor to be similar to Najee Harris numbers. Hopefully he does much better. In the old days I’d say he’s a safe workhorse type, but in today’s game they will give other backs plenty of touches as well.

Henderson has very high upside. League winning upside. I’d say his floor is lower, but the ceiling higher.

 

[massraider]

Looking at ADP for PPR, and
1. I don't believe he would fall that far (RB18, 45 overall) and
2. If he does, I think he's a steal.

He's the only guy on the team who looks a little special. Pats have a bunch of guys at WR and TE, and guys at RB. Just.....a bunch of guys. I feel like workload for this guy is going to be as much as the Pats feel he can handle. Loses goalline to Rhamondre, fine. But 20 carries+targets combined feels reasonable, right away.

 

[Lansdowne]

Looking at ADP for PPR, and
1. I don't believe he would fall that far (RB18, 45 overall) and
2. If he does, I think he's a steal.

He's the only guy on the team who looks a little special. Pats have a bunch of guys at WR and TE, and guys at RB. Just.....a bunch of guys. I feel like workload for this guy is going to be as much as the Pats feel he can handle. Loses goalline to Rhamondre, fine. But 20 carries+targets combined feels reasonable, right away.

Henderson looks like the only offensive weapon that opposing coaches might lose sleep over. He's a mismatch because of his home run speed. Him being on the field will change the way defenses operate against them. Health permitting, he's going to be on the field a lot.

 

[Faust]

@YahooFantasy
TreVeyon Henderson's impressive training camp has made it "seem reasonable that he’ll get half the carries, if not more", per @ChadGraff

https://x.com/yahoofantasy/status/1960368269958746493?s=61

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Our rookie draft went Jeanty, Hampton, then the shock pick of McMillan. At 1.4 I could not believe I got Henderson.

If you need a WR, I can see going McMillan. I like Henderson better, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your team.

What's best for your team is taking the best player regardless of position.

Neither player has played a down in a real nfl game yet. In dynasty I have Henderson and Tet very close to each other, probably two picks apart. If I'm loaded at RB, I can easily justify taking Tet.
I like them both. I drafted both in my main redraft league, so no bias here.

If you have them the same then sure, break the tie based on team needs. If you have one ahead of the other take the higher one regardless of position. Nobody knows how they will do. They could both bust, they could both be all-pro's or anything in between. I just always take the player that I believe (based on my research) to have the best chance to succeed. I don't factor in position unless I really have two players tied (which is very rare).

I should have added more context. This league is a 10 team, 10 player keeper. The guy that took McMillan kept 2 RB and 6 (that's right 6) WR. He REALLY needed RB, and the entire draft room was shocked he went Tet. Maybe it works. I will admit, I am impressed with Tet and would have been happy to get him. Maybe him taking Tet will allow him the freedom to trade another WR for a RB early in the season. I get it.

 

[TampaMike19]

So basically it’s the old dynasty adage of situation vs talent. Why did Hampton go higher in the draft? Just more three down prototype? Seems like Henderson has more raw talent but is not a 3 down back but the more explosive one?

I’m not sure what to do with Henderson in fantasy. The pats will probably be better and run the ball more this year- this favors rhamondre for ground and pound and clock control, but Henderson has his explosiveness that’ll be super effective versus tired defenses.

I think Henderson will make his living on big plays which is kind of like James cook fantasy production before the td heavy year. Between the 20s and passing downs, maybe long touchdowns, but goal line and closer games he may not be as used. You could say his upshot is Gibbs but the patriots aren’t the lions, even though I think they’d like to emulate the backs to the lions

 

[FarFromHome]

The number is 200. If Henderson gets 200 carries I think he is gonna be top 10 fantasy rb. If they don't want to overuse him and keep him to 7 carries a game or so, he is gonna be a decent flex. 200 people.

 

[Anarchy99]

I am sure I will get more daggers on this one. This training camp, even last week, McDaniels has commented that Henderson is a faster version of Vereen and Woodhead with the skill set of Burkhead. Those were 100-125 touches per year guys at their peak in NE with McDaniels.

You know who McDaniels didn't compare Henderson to? He didn't say he was a faster version or compare him to DIllon, Ridley, Blount, Michel, Stevenson . . . or Steven Jackson, Knowshon Moreno, or Josh Jacobs who he coached on other teams. Those were all 275-300 touch backs. Dillon had a year with 360 touches and Jacobs had nearly 400 in LV.

With all those guys that he coached, why would he compare Henderson to very skilled but still secondary RBs? Others have made the James White comparison . . . even Henderson did. White had one elite season and another strong one. But he those were his only two seasons (of eight total) when he had 100+ touches.

For those that will bring it up again, I am not anti-Henderson. I think he is very talented, hard-working, and will likely end up as their primary back in a year or two. But not as a rookie. I own no shares of Henderson. I own no shares of Stevenson. I don't even really participate in fantasy anymore. I am only pointing out what I see. I could be wrong. I've been wrong on players plenty of times. I am only presenting more context and depth for consideration vs. just building on and furthering the hype. Put another way, my life doesn't change based on who you roster on your fantasy team.

 

[Lansdowne]

I am sure I will get more daggers on this one. This training camp, even last week, McDaniels has commented that Henderson is a faster version of Vereen and Woodhead with the skill set of Burkhead. Those were 100-125 touches per year guys at their peak in NE with McDaniels.

You know who McDaniels didn't compare Henderson to? He didn't say he was a faster version or compare him to DIllon, Ridley, Blount, Michel, Stevenson . . . or Steven Jackson, Knowshon Moreno, or Josh Jacobs who he coached on other teams. Those were all 275-300 touch backs. Dillon had a year with 360 touches and Jacobs had nearly 400 in LV.

With all those guys that he coached, why would he compare Henderson to very skilled but still secondary RBs? Others have made the James White comparison . . . even Henderson did. White had one elite season and another strong one. But he those were his only two seasons (of eight total) when he had 100+ touches.

For those that will bring it up again, I am not anti-Henderson. I think he is very talented, hard-working, and will likely end up as their primary back in a year or two. But not as a rookie. I own no shares of Henderson. I own no shares of Stevenson. I don't even really participate in fantasy anymore. I am only pointing out what I see. I could be wrong. I've been wrong on players plenty of times. I am only presenting more context and depth for consideration vs. just building on and furthering the hype. Put another way, my life doesn't change based on who you roster on your fantasy team.

McDaniels was comparing Henderson’s speed to those third down back types. He didn’t mention the bigs (Dillon, Blount, etc.) because their speed doesn’t compare. Henderson’s overall skillset may compare better to the likes of Vereen and Woodhead but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s going to be typecast to the same role they had. I’m confident Henderson is going to be great beginning this season, both as a football player and a fantasy asset. If Stevenson is a deterrent to Henderson it’ll be because Stevenson is having the best season of his career, and I wouldn’t mind seeing that as a Pats fan but it’s not a bet I’d be willing to make. To each their own.

 

[LawFitz]

Will Trey be the primary kick/punt returner? Asking for a close friend in a return yardage league.

 

[Anarchy99]

Will Trey be the primary kick/punt returner? Asking for a close friend in a return yardage league.

Not listed as a returner on the depth chart.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Will Trey be the primary kick/punt returner? Asking for a close friend in a return yardage league.

Not listed as a returner on the depth chart.

If that is the case then I assume they have a decent sized workload planned for him.

 

[Jail]

I am sure I will get more daggers on this one. This training camp, even last week, McDaniels has commented that Henderson is a faster version of Vereen and Woodhead with the skill set of Burkhead. Those were 100-125 touches per year guys at their peak in NE with McDaniels.

You know who McDaniels didn't compare Henderson to? He didn't say he was a faster version or compare him to DIllon, Ridley, Blount, Michel, Stevenson . . . or Steven Jackson, Knowshon Moreno, or Josh Jacobs who he coached on other teams. Those were all 275-300 touch backs. Dillon had a year with 360 touches and Jacobs had nearly 400 in LV.

With all those guys that he coached, why would he compare Henderson to very skilled but still secondary RBs? Others have made the James White comparison . . . even Henderson did. White had one elite season and another strong one. But he those were his only two seasons (of eight total) when he had 100+ touches.

For those that will bring it up again, I am not anti-Henderson. I think he is very talented, hard-working, and will likely end up as their primary back in a year or two. But not as a rookie. I own no shares of Henderson. I own no shares of Stevenson. I don't even really participate in fantasy anymore. I am only pointing out what I see. I could be wrong. I've been wrong on players plenty of times. I am only presenting more context and depth for consideration vs. just building on and furthering the hype. Put another way, my life doesn't change based on who you roster on your fantasy team.

You seem pretty dug in that he won’t be used as much based on history, which seems reasonable. But I think it’s important to look at how things have changed. I read something a while back, but I can’t seem to find it right now about how important explosive plays are.

When you look at the roster it sure seems like Henderson is their best bet for those. Vrabel especially knows how different the offense can perform when you have someone that can take it to the house on a single play. After he lost AJ Brown that offense just wasn’t the same. On top of that Maye doesn’t scream to me as a reliable QB that’s going to grind the defense down with long, mistake free drives. They will desperately need that big play potential.

It will be interesting to see. You definitely know this team, but if they aren’t going to give this guy plenty of touches the offense is going to struggle big time. Just my opinion of course.

 

[FarFromHome]

Will Trey be the primary kick/punt returner? Asking for a close friend in a return yardage league.

Not listed as a returner on the depth chart.

If that is the case then I assume they have a decent sized workload planned for him.

Best news I've heard all day. Henderson owners in non return leagues DO NOT want him playing special teams. It would be a massive red flag for me

 

[VaTerp]

Is there a RB with more variance on expectations headed into the season?

FF is largely a game of talent and volume. The volume is obviously the million $ question here.

From what I can tell, the Vereen/Woodhead comparison from McDaniels was specific to speed only. And he said he’d “never had a back quite like Tre…”

I’m gonna gamble on talent here but sounds like A LOT of other folks are too so the value is no longer there.

But if he gets the volume, I don’t think it matters all that much. If he doesn’t, it’s a swing and miss I’d be comfortable with.