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RB TreVeyon Henderson, NE (4 Viewers)

Henderson/Judkins is giving me Chubb/Michel vibes. I guessed poorly back then.
Could be worse, I guessed wrong on a WDIS call between Derrick Henry and Michel in week 14 of the 2018 season and it cost me $247K.

But with respect to Michel's career unlike NE you were not privy to his medicals which showed a bone on bone issue in his knee and a player even they thought was not likely to be a second contract player. Which is fine in a later round, but nuts to pick him as high as they did. Sure as hell wish they had picked just about anyone else.
 
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Henderson/Judkins is giving me Chubb/Michel vibes. I guessed poorly back then.
Could be worse, I guessed wrong on a WDIS call between Derrick Henry and Michel in week 13 of the 2018 season and it cost me $247K.

But with respect to Michel's career unlike NE you were not privy to his medicals which showed a bone on bone issue in his knee and a player even they thought was not likely to be a second contract player. Which is fine in a later round, but nuts to pick him as high as they did. Sure as hell wish they had picked just about anyone else.
238 yards and 4 TD's, hahahahahahah
 
Henderson/Judkins is giving me Chubb/Michel vibes. I guessed poorly back then.
Could be worse, I guessed wrong on a WDIS call between Derrick Henry and Michel in week 13 of the 2018 season and it cost me $247K.

But with respect to Michel's career unlike NE you were not privy to his medicals which showed a bone on bone issue in his knee and a player even they thought was not likely to be a second contract player. Which is fine in a later round, but nuts to pick him as high as they did. Sure as hell wish they had picked just about anyone else.
238 yards and 4 TD's, hahahahahahah
Yeah, was actually week 14(corrected my post) but you figured it out. Was a Thursday night game and was pure agony, though at the time I would know until a few weeks later how bad it was.
 
Patriots on CLNS Media
Which Patriots rookie has impressed @GregABedard the most?

"TreVeyon Henderson to me is the guy who jumps out."

"He's in the mix with everything. I think he's really gonna be involved."

NEW Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast OUT NOW: youtu.be/lGIj0m_8pPo

Thanks for posting this and it's not surprising to me.

I think many of the Henderson naysayers haven't seen just how good Henderson is in the passing game. He is exceptional both as a pass blocker and as a receiver. He is in a completely different tier than almost all RBs already in the NFL IMHO.

Actually, i think I'll be his receiving yards over.
 
Taylor Kyles
.@PhilAPerry asked TreVeyon Henderson about his fit in Josh McDaniels’ offense

Henderson, who got open deep and spent time out wide today, touched on how McDaniels prioritizes getting players in space and 1v1 opportunities

Shaping up to be a key part of the downfield pass game

Henderson also said he felt he has more potential as a receiver than he got to show at Ohio State

Touched on his untapped potential and overall game here


 
Sigmund Bloom mentioned on a podcast that TreVeyon was running as the 3rd RB in camp. anyone confirm?

That is not what I am hearing locally…they have been trying him all over the place and reports have been glowing…his speed is immediately noticeable…I fully expect him to be a big piece of the offense this year…it will be some form of RBBC with Stevenson and Gibson (Gibson is the x-factor) so you do have to temper expectations but IMO he is the back to own here.
 
Sigmund Bloom mentioned on a podcast that TreVeyon was running as the 3rd RB in camp. anyone confirm?
Depth chart doesn't mean anything right now. Especially for someone drafted as Henderson was.
Agree, but I would be surprised if he was behind Gibson.
Agree.

I know he’s a rookie but rookie RBs drafted early generally play a lot early. Sometimes coach’s are just stubborn or stupid and make a committee early with a vet, even if he isn’t remotely as talented as the rookie. I think the Vikings did that in Adrian Peterson rookie season with Chester Taylor. Until it just got to the point that finally realized how foolish they were being and ADP took over.

I just don’t see Gibson keeping Henderson off the field. If he does, then the Pats over drafted him.
 
Sigmund Bloom mentioned on a podcast that TreVeyon was running as the 3rd RB in camp. anyone confirm?
Depth chart doesn't mean anything right now. Especially for someone drafted as Henderson was.
Agree, but I would be surprised if he was behind Gibson. Sig is usually a good source.
I don't think Sig being a good source is irelevant. Henderson being 3rd string means absolutely nothing right now.
 
Sigmund Bloom mentioned on a podcast that TreVeyon was running as the 3rd RB in camp. anyone confirm?
Depth chart doesn't mean anything right now. Especially for someone drafted as Henderson was.
Agree, but I would be surprised if he was behind Gibson. Sig is usually a good source.
I hate to state what should be obvious that in McDaniels' time in NE, nothing in training camp had any bearing on what the regular season depth chart was and what playing time would look like. Rookies get a lot of work and get evaluated doing a lot of things in training camp because they have to get up to speed and may not get a ton of practice during the season. Normally in NE, guys that don't practice or play much are the guys they are saving for the regular season, so guys that appear high on the depth chart usually most times are not used much. In the past, rookies didn't get big roles under JMD. His scheme and system are very complex and has a lot of moving parts with real time decision making. Bill or no Bill as HC is something to consider, but JMD was the one with the reins of the offense.
 
Patriots on CLNS Media
Which Patriots rookie has impressed @GregABedard the most?

"TreVeyon Henderson to me is the guy who jumps out."

"He's in the mix with everything. I think he's really gonna be involved."

NEW Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast OUT NOW: youtu.be/lGIj0m_8pPo

Thanks for posting this and it's not surprising to me.

I think many of the Henderson naysayers haven't seen just how good Henderson is in the passing game. He is exceptional both as a pass blocker and as a receiver. He is in a completely different tier than almost all RBs already in the NFL IMHO.

Actually, i think I'll be his receiving yards over.
@TripItUp and that pass-catching role in a Josh McDaniels' offense...
 
I'm not too surprised to hear Henderson starting out camp as 3rd behind the two veterans Stevenson and Gibson. Same way they have Kyle Williams currently 4th behind Diggs, Douglas and Boutte. They aren't going to be handed anything, but I'd expect both rookies to move up in short order.
 
TreVeyon Henderson RB • NE
Patriots' TreVeyon Henderson: Pass-catching skills on display
by RotoWire
(6 hrs ago) Since the start of training camp, offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has lined Henderson up in various formations in an effort to take advantage of mismatches, Karen Guregian of MassLive Sports reports.
With that in mind, Guregian notes that it's pretty clear McDaniels believes the explosive 2025 second-rounder -- who has caught screen passes, swing passes and wheel routes downfield during camp practices -- has a chance be a valuable weapon in the passing game this season. Henderson has fifth-year pro Rhamondre Stevenson to contend with for backfield touches, particularly in early-down situations, but the rookie still has enough playmaking upside to make a fantasy impact even in the context of a timeshare that features him and Rhamondre Stevenson, with Antonio Gibson also mixing in.
 
https://x.com/PatriotsCLNS/status/1950981439844966444

"Could TreVeyon Henderson have an impact right away?
“It doesn’t seem like the redshirt Josh McDaniels rookie running back thing is gonna happen” - @mikekadlick
“Henderson is going to have a BIG BIG role in this offense…Wouldn’t shock me if he was top 3 or 4 on team in receptions”
@tkyles39"
With the cast of receivers they have I would think top 4 on roster in catches is nearly a sure thing.
 
https://x.com/PatriotsCLNS/status/1950981439844966444

"Could TreVeyon Henderson have an impact right away?
“It doesn’t seem like the redshirt Josh McDaniels rookie running back thing is gonna happen” - @mikekadlick
“Henderson is going to have a BIG BIG role in this offense…Wouldn’t shock me if he was top 3 or 4 on team in receptions”
@tkyles39"
With the cast of receivers they have I would think top 4 on roster in catches is nearly a sure thing.
I feel like saying top 3 or 4 in receptions on the team is like having a bunch of ugly babes and picking the top 3 or 4 from that bunch.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
Especially if hes running wheel routes... one of those ops is a go route from the backfield? Yeah, I'll take that.

5 catches for 80 yards and a TD is good enough for the girls I hang out with.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yep
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Oh for sure - maybe more Achane than Gibbs. I believe Gibbs workload will be increasing, which makes me nervous as a Monty shareholder. The saving grace is they have a great defense & Monty is the garbage time grinder.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
Especially if hes running wheel routes... one of those ops is a go route from the backfield? Yeah, I'll take that.

5 catches for 80 yards and a TD is good enough for the girls I hang out with.
Different time and he wasn’t a rookie, but James White had 123 targets in 2018 playing in McDaniels offense. Crazy
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Oh for sure - maybe more Achane than Gibbs. I believe Gibbs workload will be increasing, which makes me nervous as a Monty shareholder. The saving grace is they have a great defense & Monty is the garbage time grinder.
I think they'll always run Monty. Gibbs is only get 10 snaps/game more than him. Difficult to see why he would see regression, considering what they're doing has been working.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
Especially if hes running wheel routes... one of those ops is a go route from the backfield? Yeah, I'll take that.

5 catches for 80 yards and a TD is good enough for the girls I hang out with.
Different time and he wasn’t a rookie, but James White had 123 targets in 2018 playing in McDaniels offense. Crazy
Hard to imagine what Henderson would do with that many targets. Like I said, 10 ops a game and I think Henderson returns beyond his ADP.
 
I think they'll always run Monty. Gibbs is only get 10 snaps/game more than him. Difficult to see why he would see regression, considering what they're doing has been working.
Probably correct. Monty is the bruiser, too - he can soften up a defense a bit for Gibbs. They’re a nasty duo.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
Especially if hes running wheel routes... one of those ops is a go route from the backfield? Yeah, I'll take that.

5 catches for 80 yards and a TD is good enough for the girls I hang out with.
Different time and he wasn’t a rookie, but James White had 123 targets in 2018 playing in McDaniels offense. Crazy
Hard to imagine what Henderson would do with that many targets. Like I said, 10 ops a game and I think Henderson returns beyond his ADP.
I’m having fun imagining it anyway. White was an excellent receiver but didn’t have the big play ability Henderson has. If (and it’s a big if) he did get that many opportunities, 85 catch range with 1000 yards receiving would be ballpark. Crazy but it honestly wouldn’t shock me with the way they are using him. I only have one share so far (dynasty) but I expect to have at least one more in my 2 redraft leagues. Hopefully 2 more.
 
A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
Especially if hes running wheel routes... one of those ops is a go route from the backfield? Yeah, I'll take that.

5 catches for 80 yards and a TD is good enough for the girls I hang out with.
Different time and he wasn’t a rookie, but James White had 123 targets in 2018 playing in McDaniels offense. Crazy
Hard to imagine what Henderson would do with that many targets. Like I said, 10 ops a game and I think Henderson returns beyond his ADP.
I’m having fun imagining it anyway. White was an excellent receiver but didn’t have the big play ability Henderson has. If (and it’s a big if) he did get that many opportunities, 85 catch range with 1000 yards receiving would be ballpark. Crazy but it honestly wouldn’t shock me with the way they are using him. I only have one share so far (dynasty) but I expect to have at least one more in my 2 redraft leagues. Hopefully 2 more.
sprinkle in 7 or 8 TDs? He is definitely worth a target redraft at current ADP. According to FantasyPros - currently RB24 but I would take him over guys like Chuba Hubbard (2 rounds ahead of Henderson) because I think they'll have similar splits (gotta assume they want to involve Brooks or Dowdle. Chuba is much less explosive and the impact of less carries is greater.

I think they'll always run Monty. Gibbs is only get 10 snaps/game more than him. Difficult to see why he would see regression, considering what they're doing has been working.

where do you get that 10 snaps number from? Just a guess?
Football guys has snap splits from last year (that was the source). I realized after you called me on that the number was 14. My Bad. It was a 60/40 split most weeks but Montgomery did outsnap Gibbs 4 times.

Montgomery was also out for a few weeks. If we continue talking about the Lions backfield, we should probably continue it by you tagging me in the Gibbs or Montgomery thread.
 
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A lot of these updates tell me that Stevenson is going to be toting the rock a lot more than Henderson shareholders are expecting.

I doubt they’re going to go empty backfield while they line up Hendo all over the formation.
I think Henderson fans, myself included, believe it doesn't matter. Similar explosiveness to Gibbs or Achane... Henderson will get his with 10 to 15 ops a game... anything else is just a bonus.
Yeah I have almost the exact same thought about him. I do expect him to average around four-five targets a game, which for ppr is a stat I'm much more interested in.
Especially if hes running wheel routes... one of those ops is a go route from the backfield? Yeah, I'll take that.

5 catches for 80 yards and a TD is good enough for the girls I hang out with.
Different time and he wasn’t a rookie, but James White had 123 targets in 2018 playing in McDaniels offense. Crazy
Hard to imagine what Henderson would do with that many targets. Like I said, 10 ops a game and I think Henderson returns beyond his ADP.
I’m having fun imagining it anyway. White was an excellent receiver but didn’t have the big play ability Henderson has. If (and it’s a big if) he did get that many opportunities, 85 catch range with 1000 yards receiving would be ballpark. Crazy but it honestly wouldn’t shock me with the way they are using him. I only have one share so far (dynasty) but I expect to have at least one more in my 2 redraft leagues. Hopefully 2 more.
sprinkle in 7 or 8 TDs? He is definitely worth a target redraft at current ADP. According to FantasyPros - currently RB24 but I would take him over guys like Chuba Hubbard (2 rounds ahead of Henderson) because I think they'll have similar splits (gotta assume they want to involve Brooks based on draft capital). Chuba is much less explosive and the impact of less carries is greater.

I think they'll always run Monty. Gibbs is only get 10 snaps/game more than him. Difficult to see why he would see regression, considering what they're doing has been working.

where do you get that 10 snaps number from? Just a guess?
Football guys has snap splits from last year (that was the source). I realized after you called me on that the number was 14. My Bad. It was a 60/40 split most weeks but Montgomery did outsnap Gibbs 4 times.

Montgomery was also out for a few weeks. If we continue talking about the Lions backfield, we should probably continue it by you tagging me in the Gibbs or Montgomery thread.
I’m sure Carolina would love to involve Brooks, especially given the draft capital they used on him, but he is out for the season. Torn ACL in the same knee.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.

by rule, all should assume that NE's backfield is a committee. once in a great while, they have a Corey Dillon level talent but you can trash a roster by assuming NE will have a bell cow.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.

by rule, all should assume that NE's backfield is a committee. once in a great while, they have a Corey Dillon level talent but you can trash a roster by assuming NE will have a bell cow.
Not sure - not like New England has had a ton of coaches over the years, although they do seem to come from the same Belichick tree - so that could still be in effect.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.
i'm as high on TH as anyone i think, but i definitely don't think he's taking over the backfield. i just love the way i think he'll be used in the passing game.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.
i'm as high on TH as anyone i think, but i definitely don't think he's taking over the backfield. i just love the way i think he'll be used in the passing game.
Anyone who thinks he’s taking over the backfield hasn’t been paying attention, nor do they really understand Henderson’s value. He will probably do more with less than any back in the league. Think Gibbs his rookie year.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.
i'm as high on TH as anyone i think, but i definitely don't think he's taking over the backfield. i just love the way i think he'll be used in the passing game.
Anyone who thinks he’s taking over the backfield hasn’t been paying attention, nor do they really understand Henderson’s value. He will probably do more with less than any back in the league. Think Gibbs his rookie year.

Nailed it...no need to outthink this...it will be an RBBC with two x-factors (that are kind of obvious)...one, just how good is Henderson and two, what Rhamondre Stevenson are we getting this year...the answers to those two questions will be the difference between him being a #3 RB and potentially a quality #2/low-end #1(if the TDs are there) for fantasy ...I fully expect him to be a big part of the Patriots O this year...long term I see him as being a rich man's James White with more upside due to his rushing ability but I do think he will always have a quality running-mate in the backfield with him.
 
How is the Patriots' 2025 draft class doing at training camp?

Excerpt:

RB TreVeyon Henderson (No. 38): One of his best plays in camp came when he was matched against reserve linebacker Marte Mapu and after a shifty double move, hauled in a downfield pass for a big play. It was a reflection of the type of speedy mismatch that offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels can maximize as a third-down/change-of-pace option that has traditionally logged as much as 50% of the snaps. Henderson, who fumbled on one handoff, has also been in the mix as a kickoff returner.
 
Getting back to Henderson, I am wondering if the fantasy community is wishcasting that the new toy in Henderson will just take over the backfield. To be sure, he is the guy the new regime handpicked in the draft, but Stevenson is no slouch. Just trying to avoid getting too exuberant and then ultimately disappointed when Henderson is heavily involved, but doesn't take on a large of a role all year as we want.
i'm as high on TH as anyone i think, but i definitely don't think he's taking over the backfield. i just love the way i think he'll be used in the passing game.
Anyone who thinks he’s taking over the backfield hasn’t been paying attention, nor do they really understand Henderson’s value. He will probably do more with less than any back in the league. Think Gibbs his rookie year.

Nailed it...no need to outthink this...it will be an RBBC with two x-factors (that are kind of obvious)...one, just how good is Henderson and two, what Rhamondre Stevenson are we getting this year...the answers to those two questions will be the difference between him being a #3 RB and potentially a quality #2/low-end #1(if the TDs are there) for fantasy ...I fully expect him to be a big part of the Patriots O this year...long term I see him as being a rich man's James White with more upside due to his rushing ability but I do think he will always have a quality running-mate in the backfield with him.
He reminds me stylistically of Reggie Bush, in all the good and bad ways as it relates to fantasy.
 
I've sent him several letters telling him how much I love him, but he hasn't replied yet.
Action speaks louder than words .
What would you suggest? Stalking is illegal. All jokes aside, this guy is going to be unreal this year. Let's hope for good health.
Take some more pain meds, it will be okay.
Hopefully he will be great. I already own him in one league where I got him at #6. I have a rookie draft in my first SF league starting later today with the #4 pick. #1 and #2 both need RBs and #3 needs a QB. I am looking at either Henderson or Hunter at #4 probably. I can use Hunter at CB, but my biggest need is RB so I am leaning towards Henderson unless Jeanty, Hampton or Ward fall.
 

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