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RB Tyjae Spears, TEN (2 Viewers)
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
3/$24if the $$ is reasonable that’s a decent tandem
satch
Footballguy
Given that we knew Tennessee would bring in another RB, the Pollard signing feels like a positive for Spears imo. Rostered both last year and sure felt like their arrows were pointing in opposite directions.
Pollard will be 27 next month, coming off a very disappointing attempt at being a lead RB. Conversely, Spears is just 22 and looked electric as a rookie. It's definitely going to start out as a timeshare, but if they both look like they did last year, a struggling Pollard is going to have a heck of a time convincing coaches to keep him on the field over a more effective Spears.
Pollard will be 27 next month, coming off a very disappointing attempt at being a lead RB. Conversely, Spears is just 22 and looked electric as a rookie. It's definitely going to start out as a timeshare, but if they both look like they did last year, a struggling Pollard is going to have a heck of a time convincing coaches to keep him on the field over a more effective Spears.
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sheerterror
Footballguy
If I'm interpreting what @Bri has been saying correctly, I think this is more of a negative than anything. It seems like Tenn will still utilize a hammer (another FA? Chestnut as Bri has mentioned?) in addition to the 2 scatbacks. It's possible they eat into each other's role vs this being a true 1A/1B type of situation.
satch
Footballguy
That scenario makes the entire TEN backfield unstartable.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Pollard stinks though.
not really, not meant to be a bell cow but he was good in a complementary role
satch
Footballguy
It’s an odd signing. Why sign a soon-to-be 27 year old RB coming off a disappointing season when you’ve got a 22 year old RB that does the same things better?
well if had to answer that, guess would be they want to take pressure off of Levis, there OL isn't good so having an outlet is going to be key, giving them two guys like this gives them more options and insurance and maybe they draft a cheap RB to be more of a goal line/bruiser guy.
Yes absolutely
Spears is fast as all getting to the sideline.
Pollard has dynamic play of his own.
Neither is Zeke or Henry.
They were reportedly in on Singletary. Could be Chestnut but ACL doubt. Could be Haskins but we all thought he'd be cut due to domestic and he went on IR.
Many believed they were in on Mixon a month or so ago.
There's definitely an element missing.
There is also a bad predictability for the opposing D to the group that can't happen either.
Spears needs to be the complete back everyone says he was in college yet wasn't in the NFL for this group to work as is. He looked cartoonish last year. I have no doubt new OL and Callahan can help that but he looked like he ran into a wall. It wasn't lets discuss cuts and vision and explosion it was just ooof.
GM Ran Carthon has a habit (SF sort of) of drafting a RB each draft so I'd expect one.
Idk that I want anyone today for FF. It's very muddy
Anytime you can give fantasy players a bad time, you have to do it
satch
Footballguy
If they don’t believe Spears can be the early downs back, that means they prioritized doubling down on the complimentary back role by signing Pollard before addressing what seems like a bigger need at RB. Seems like they would’ve been better off spending for a guy like Gus Edwards instead of Pollard, then finding another complimentary back.
Which could indicate that they do plan to use Spears as the lead RB with Pollard in the complimentary role?
Which could indicate that they do plan to use Spears as the lead RB with Pollard in the complimentary role?
(HULK)
(Smash)
They paid Pollard more than they would've if they felt he was just in a complimentary role.
Probably should have.
Right now it looks like Dallas let Zeke walk and forced Pollard into a bigger role soooo let's try the same only we'll double down on this with Spears
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I'll preface with the fact I like Spears; but man I feel like Pollard is going to be a steal this year with how down people are on him. Forget the role change and IMO questionable coaching usage in 2023; the dude fractured his fibula in January of 2023 lol. People who thought he'd come back from that 8 months later looking the same were nuts to begin with. His metrics from his career prior to that injury were fantastic on just about every level. And he had more than a handful of games playing lead back and every down for the Cowboys in previous years looking great. I won't say I think his best role is a 80% touch 3 down back, but to act like he can't run tough on early downs is basically writing off everything he did before his injury. I can see that side of the argument "maybe he'll never return to form", but I can't be on board with people completely ignoring what he did previously or acting like it's definitive that he won't improve on last season now fully healed.
It's been said repeatedly by the players themselves; being healthy enough to suit up and play is a world of difference from being at full health 100% of your abilities. And claiming he straight up stinks is an L take and laughable. I think the most likely scenario is in the middle somewhere; a split timeshare with Spears where they both hold low to mid RB2 value. And an injury to either would vault the other up into RB1 territory. Depending on their price in another few months, I'd seriously consider investing in both. At the very least, I'd be taking the lower cost guy.
It's been said repeatedly by the players themselves; being healthy enough to suit up and play is a world of difference from being at full health 100% of your abilities. And claiming he straight up stinks is an L take and laughable. I think the most likely scenario is in the middle somewhere; a split timeshare with Spears where they both hold low to mid RB2 value. And an injury to either would vault the other up into RB1 territory. Depending on their price in another few months, I'd seriously consider investing in both. At the very least, I'd be taking the lower cost guy.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I think they are both a little more lightening than thunder, but think they will complement each other well. Watching Spears college tape, I think both he and Pollard have similar skill sets tbh; which would be good for the offensive scheme that you aren't really giving away your hand when you have one back in as opposed to the other. And should one go down, you don't have to redesign your entire game plan.
I'd predict a pretty even split, where maybe they also lean towards the hot hand where if one of them is having a better game they will get more touches. With Levis still unproven, I think the running game will still be a big feature of their offense and would not be surprised if both backs can be valuable in fantasy as mid RB2s. It will really depend on where they wind up ADP wise come August.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I think it's better to have RBs who don't make your play calling predictable
Definitely this, which is why the old "Thunder & Lightning" is a bit of an antiquated approach. We won't see many more pairings like the Dunn/Alstott pair. Offenses are moving more and more to finding pieces you can move around to create mismatches - RBs that can motion out into the slot, TEs that you can move all over to force a CB to try cover them in a jump ball situation or a LB to try cover them in an open field situation. It's all 4D chess.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
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jm192
Footballguy
I think he's another nice value in re-draft/best ball.
The Titans offense should be better. I think a Sophomore Levis shows some improvement and plays better than what we were seeing from Tannehill. Ridley will help move the chains and keep drives alive. Henry's departre opens up a ton of touches, and I think we saw last year Pollard doesn't thrive as a bellcow.
I think we'll see close to a split, maybe 60-40% in favor of Pollard. Spears has stand alone value as an explosive flex play. He's one of those that gets a huge bump if the starter goes down as well. I've got him at RB33.
Fantasypros has him at RB35. FBG has him at RB36. I'll probably have quite a few shares of him.
The Titans offense should be better. I think a Sophomore Levis shows some improvement and plays better than what we were seeing from Tannehill. Ridley will help move the chains and keep drives alive. Henry's departre opens up a ton of touches, and I think we saw last year Pollard doesn't thrive as a bellcow.
I think we'll see close to a split, maybe 60-40% in favor of Pollard. Spears has stand alone value as an explosive flex play. He's one of those that gets a huge bump if the starter goes down as well. I've got him at RB33.
Fantasypros has him at RB35. FBG has him at RB36. I'll probably have quite a few shares of him.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Annoying split coming imo, much like many backfields.
Good luck deciding who to start.
Prior burns prior years, I've had the opportunity and been like "no no, I'm not signing up for that Sunday morning stress"
Everything I've seen is 50/50 split, pretty clear Pollard better in a non-bell cow role, and prob Spears is too.
packdog
Footballguy
someone dropped him in one of my leagues and i picked him up. pollard did get the majority but probably too early to abandon ship after one week. think coach even said they need to even it out a bit more. so certainly worth a grab. prolly one of the better handcuff rbs who likely has some weeks of standalone value.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Team insists it’s going to be closer to 50-50, and I believe them.
Also pollard is not without an injury history- Lears is the better receiver IMO.
I would definitely add him anywhere he was dropped.
Panda13
Footballguy
Ok thanks guys. After reading your thoughts and watching some film with Spears from last year, I put in a bid for him ($9/$100). I wonder if any of my league mates will do the same.
I'm looking to add to my rb bench depth. Every year I fall for the rookie hype. I drafted Corum and Wright and neither panned out. I know it's early but I'd rather take a guy who at least is getting some playing time even in a split backfield. And like mentioned above, seem to have great potential if injuries come up.
I'm looking to add to my rb bench depth. Every year I fall for the rookie hype. I drafted Corum and Wright and neither panned out. I know it's early but I'd rather take a guy who at least is getting some playing time even in a split backfield. And like mentioned above, seem to have great potential if injuries come up.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
The guys on the ETR podcast mentioned Spears' knees could be problematic, as in taped and iced and possibly held together with rubber bands. I have no idea if that's true or not.
The WRs had no pep to them. They were as flat as can be and both RBs lined up out wide to stir them up. It didn't work but totally good with the idea. Hopkins won't let that happen so that's done.
As was mentioned, Callahan said he didn't get Spears the work he wanted to and will include him more. He was pleased with Pollard.
I still expect Chestnut to get work but I'll probably drop him this weekend.
He is the tough runner and I think there was too much cleverness in the second half with a lead last week. Maybe even "don't want to show Henry's offense but move forward" type vibe too. That was dumb. Everyone runs out the clock with a lead and not exclusive to Henry or Vrabel.
It's all kind of curious. The TEs didn't play as he said they would all summer either.
Titans OC did say he has no qualms about putting both at WR in spots and may just do so.
Burks did nothing. He's now fourth. He probably comes in ready to rock now because he has little opportunity otherwise.
It should be setup fine. We'll see but it all is good on paper
As was mentioned, Callahan said he didn't get Spears the work he wanted to and will include him more. He was pleased with Pollard.
I still expect Chestnut to get work but I'll probably drop him this weekend.
He is the tough runner and I think there was too much cleverness in the second half with a lead last week. Maybe even "don't want to show Henry's offense but move forward" type vibe too. That was dumb. Everyone runs out the clock with a lead and not exclusive to Henry or Vrabel.
It's all kind of curious. The TEs didn't play as he said they would all summer either.
Titans OC did say he has no qualms about putting both at WR in spots and may just do so.
Burks did nothing. He's now fourth. He probably comes in ready to rock now because he has little opportunity otherwise.
It should be setup fine. We'll see but it all is good on paper
Nope
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
He has no ACL. It's been that way
It had nothing to do with the game or anything
It's supposed to be a share and Chestnut is supposed to get the crumbs
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Big Nate
Footballguy
He's been playing without an ACL for years. Long term there could be issues but the knees have been fine. People just love to always bring it up and speculate.
There is always a chance he ends up like Todd Gurley and has to retire early but he's pretty young still to have long term knee issues. Seems the lack of ACL hasn't bothered him in the NFL or during his college time.
This looks to be an ankle injury but doesn't sound too serious .... yet.
