ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Everybody is honestly just best staying away from this inevitable committee. Top man any given week is likely looking at a max of 10-12 touches.
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Samaje Perine vs Carson Steele (1 Viewer)
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kutta
Footballguy
Some of us went light on RB2 and have a bunch of junk there. We need some hope! Don’t drown our dreams just yet
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Can definitely see tons of empty calories touches for Steele and Perine getting some of the money touches (3rd down, 2 minute, red zone.) The McKinnon comp makes too much sense for fantasy and real-life.
Maybe Steele in Standard and Perine in all others.
Was promising to see Steele trusted down the stretch.
Maybe Steele in Standard and Perine in all others.
Was promising to see Steele trusted down the stretch.
renesauz
IBL Representative
How could you place your trust in a guy who doesn't have a touch to date? (Sorry but he's been there long enough, especially for a RB...the new to the team thing doesn't jive to me)
As many have said, probably need to look elsewhere, but if I had to choose between these two it's gonna be the rookie who's had a bunch of touches already.
As many have said, probably need to look elsewhere, but if I had to choose between these two it's gonna be the rookie who's had a bunch of touches already.
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
I accept that he’s only been on the team for 2-3 weeks so hasn’t been or needed to be heavily involved in the game plan. Maybe you own Steele or Pacheco and are blinded by this?
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Read this article today about Steele who I bet becomes the starter and RB to own:
“While Steele has yet to record his first NFL catch, he proved useful as a pass catcher in college. Over three seasons at Ball State and UCLA, Steele totaled 486 receiving yards and four touchdown catches from 58 receptions. He earned a first down on 43% of his career catches, and was only marked with one drop according to PFF.
This should give the Chiefs some confidence that the play calling doesn’t need to change in order to protect Steele. The team can still be pass-heavy in neutral situations, falling back on Steele bowling over defenders as a check-down option in the flat.
Perine will likely be superior in timing and spacing on screen plays, but that doesn’t mean Steele shouldn’t get opportunities too. Simply put, get the ball to Steele in open space. The Chiefs understand that — hence Steele’s role as a kick returner this season.”
I don’t know how good he is at pass protection (he’s plenty big and strong enough to physically hold up and block) but if he’s not a liability I’m saying it’s his job to lose.
“While Steele has yet to record his first NFL catch, he proved useful as a pass catcher in college. Over three seasons at Ball State and UCLA, Steele totaled 486 receiving yards and four touchdown catches from 58 receptions. He earned a first down on 43% of his career catches, and was only marked with one drop according to PFF.
This should give the Chiefs some confidence that the play calling doesn’t need to change in order to protect Steele. The team can still be pass-heavy in neutral situations, falling back on Steele bowling over defenders as a check-down option in the flat.
Perine will likely be superior in timing and spacing on screen plays, but that doesn’t mean Steele shouldn’t get opportunities too. Simply put, get the ball to Steele in open space. The Chiefs understand that — hence Steele’s role as a kick returner this season.”
I don’t know how good he is at pass protection (he’s plenty big and strong enough to physically hold up and block) but if he’s not a liability I’m saying it’s his job to lose.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Steele vs Perine vs Hunt.
Gross.
Gross.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
punt
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
I’m going for Steele. Should get the early down work over Perine and is just more explosive imo. Hunt is a complete non-issue and would be signed for depth. I think people forget the splash he made in camp and if not for the fumble last week, I think most would take the gamble.
Zow
Footballguy
In any format if given the restriction that I could only take one, I go Steele. In other words, I’d still take Steele over Perine in perine’s best format (PPR redraft).
My thinking is that of the three, Steele is the only one who I could see being a league-winning add (like Kyren or puka last year). Perine may be a serviceable RB2 in PPR formats with a high floor, but my assumption (and my personal reality) is that I have some semblance of rb depth so Perine numbers would be comparable to like a Tyjae Spears or Antonio Gibson. In other words, Perine isn’t a difference maker (except for an owner who draft wr heavy and got hit by injuries to an already weak rb room). Hunt seems like a slower version of Steele at this point.
Steele seems like the rb of the three with the best odds to be an actual league-changer.
My thinking is that of the three, Steele is the only one who I could see being a league-winning add (like Kyren or puka last year). Perine may be a serviceable RB2 in PPR formats with a high floor, but my assumption (and my personal reality) is that I have some semblance of rb depth so Perine numbers would be comparable to like a Tyjae Spears or Antonio Gibson. In other words, Perine isn’t a difference maker (except for an owner who draft wr heavy and got hit by injuries to an already weak rb room). Hunt seems like a slower version of Steele at this point.
Steele seems like the rb of the three with the best odds to be an actual league-changer.
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This whole situation seems like an avoid. Let somebody else deal with it.
Mahommes is going to throw a ton.
Kelce will probably get his pulse back.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I guess if nothing else, maybe Mahomes and Kelce owners might benefit. So far I'm betting most team's FF backup QBs and TEs are outscoring Mahomes and Kelce. I know that's the case with several of my teams.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Are you talking about Chris Brooks that Green Bay activated off their practice squad today after they put Lloyd on Injured Reserve?
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JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo
Footballguy
As someone who is super thin at RB2 I'm targeting Steele off waivers...but I'm cringing as I write this. It's a lottery ticket in a headache of a committee.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I hope you have nerves of steel.
JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo
Footballguy
More like desperate AF.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
Idk bout league winner. He is an undrafted rookie. You think Reid is gonna trust him with blitz pickups over someone like Perine or Hunt? Those guys are definitely slower, but way more experienced. I might throw a low ball bid on Hunt and immediately trade him if he does sign. Otherwise, gonna be a hard pass on KC waivers. People have mentioned McKinnon, but he's 32 now and like a dog, that's 65 in RB years
Birdie048
Footballguy
Well, if it was the same Chris Brooks who started with Miami, had a concussion injury settlement and then went to GB PS…..
I was unaware of the promotion!
TY
I think he would have been a good pickup
Zow
Footballguy
Well, nobody does.
I guess my point is that he seems to have the highest upside and best odds of being a bell cow back (in the same way like an Orlandis Gary or Samkon Gado were for a season) as opposed to Perine (primarily a pass catcher, change of pace) and Hunt (old).
My Mahomes team could for sure use a solid infusion of inside the five passing TDs.
dmac37
Footballguy
I take the fumble as a positive. Andy gave him the carries, not Perine with the game on the line post fumble.
At this stage Hunt shares the same role as Perine. IMO Steele is RB1 and Hunt & Perine share the receiving back role.
This is how I feel also and how I’m going into waivers tonight with my FAAB. We’ll see if it pays off.
rockaction
Footballguy
Steele to lead 105-104.
I just think he's got the best chance of doing things with his touches. Samaje is pedestrian and Kareem seemed so done last year, but but but
that said, Hunt fit in so well with that offense before that he might be aware enough of how to play the position that he can skip the explosiveness part of it.
And what or where is CEH? What happened to him?
I just think he's got the best chance of doing things with his touches. Samaje is pedestrian and Kareem seemed so done last year, but but but
that said, Hunt fit in so well with that offense before that he might be aware enough of how to play the position that he can skip the explosiveness part of it.
And what or where is CEH? What happened to him?
Runkle
Footballguy
CEH is out of the picture. PTSD, I don't think he was a participant in any way in training camp. Seems the team is doing him right by keeping him on IR so he has health insurance and access to the kind of doctors he needs. But he won't be near a football field for a long time if ever again.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I think Steele will get the lions share of carries while Pacheco is out. Hunt will spell. SP will get passing work but the Chiefs game script will likely call for very little of that as they won't be down very often.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh, wow. Thanks for the information. PTSD is serious stuff. I hope he's able to live a functioning and healthy life after this.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
to be fair, deebo is going to be out multiple weeks and when Aiyuk was holding out I wasn't worried since Jennings is their plug and play guy. I think adding Jennings is a solid add. Would I drop Steele for him? probably not unless I had a stack of RBs and Steele would be like my 5th RB.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
haha, I broke the tie
Deamon
Footballguy
cant believe how close that race is
TampaMike19
Footballguy
I’m just happy people blew their money on this backfield while I’ll sit back and wait
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I see maybe a 25 percent chance that Steele becomes a viable starter. That's good enough for a bench spot.
I feel like the team wants him to succeed. He fumbled the ball and still carried a couple of times when the game was on the line. He also got a carry at the 4 yard line when Pacheco was still in the game. Perine could have gotten carries in either scenario and didn't. That doesn't mean he won't have a role with Pacheco out, but it's clear to me they want the rookie involved.
I feel like the team wants him to succeed. He fumbled the ball and still carried a couple of times when the game was on the line. He also got a carry at the 4 yard line when Pacheco was still in the game. Perine could have gotten carries in either scenario and didn't. That doesn't mean he won't have a role with Pacheco out, but it's clear to me they want the rookie involved.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
^This. I'm not in an auction league, but Steele was the top waiver in both my leagues. I didn't even have a claim in on him (or Perine). I don't see anyone in this backfield being worth the headache. Reid will game-plan around who they are playing and use RB's accordingly. I really don't think there's a Pacheco replacement in the guys who are there and see it as more of a headache than it's worth.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Steele is definitely the top waiver spend because it’s the mystery box appeal.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Lost out on Steele and just grabbed Hunt for free for a looksee in my IRL league. Perine is sitting available, but I only have room for one KC scratcher and I'm going for the upside guys. Landed Bray Allen as my other ticket last night and unwilling to drop him for Perine.
In Sharkpool Homeleague Uno, I drafted and put Steele in a lockbox, and have been chased around various threads for weeks by the ADP sheriff making fun of me for it. Would be all kinds of awesome to see Man o' Steele make that dude eat a big fat black bird.
In Sharkpool Homeleague Uno, I drafted and put Steele in a lockbox, and have been chased around various threads for weeks by the ADP sheriff making fun of me for it. Would be all kinds of awesome to see Man o' Steele make that dude eat a big fat black bird.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Lucky guess.
Still think it’s gonna be RBBC from hell even when Hunt does get up to speed.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I WW bid on both, bidding $1 less for Steele compared to Perine. I wound up with Perine.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
For PPR that’s probably for the best.
I have a hunch that whichever of the 3 shows they can do the job will get a larger share.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Ingram promoted to the active roster while Hunt is put on the PR.
I think I like Ingram better than Steele as a runner and possible option in this offense. Steele plays STs which is why he was active each week.
i'd take Ingram as the flyer for this week to see what happens. Hunt likely needs some time too get up to NFL speed.
I think I like Ingram better than Steele as a runner and possible option in this offense. Steele plays STs which is why he was active each week.
i'd take Ingram as the flyer for this week to see what happens. Hunt likely needs some time too get up to NFL speed.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
And there it is: RBBC from hell confirmed
Birdie048
Footballguy
Would Ingram assume the ST role while Steele gets more carries??
That would be a fair guess on my part but I know nothing
