Shark Pool Mock #1 (1 Viewer)

[Bob Magaw]

RG3 was very coveted, CLE was prepared to give up three firsts, too (nobody is going to do that for Clowney).

He did win ROY over Luck (and Wilson) in a historically good season.

I do not think any NFL team would move down 3 spots at the top of a draft to swap a 3rd for a 2nd. Not that I do not think there are any players worth Luck or RG3, its that is not near enough for 3 spots in the first.

OAK moved all the way from 1.3 to 1.12 last year and got just a second. They obviously weren't besieged by offers, were locked in on Hayden, had conviction he would be there, realized he wouldn't have been good value at 1.3 and got him cheaper at 1.12? I do kind of agree in the real draft they probably could get a second without needing to give up a pick. But if that offer wasn't forthcoming here, and Soulfly got his target Watkins (or it could have been Matthews), than it worked out. Some might say it wasn't worth the risk, but he got good results. That is from someone who was too conservative and could have had an extra second and still maybe got Robinson.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

With the new CBA in place, the draft value chart is just about worthless today.

 

[FUBAR]

1.07 Cleveland Browns - Sammy Watkins, WR - Clemson

Heard enough barking about my trade down, yet I made the correct decision 120%, as I had planned it to go. Matthews or Watkins were who I expected at 1.07 and ended up one or the other was mine, no matter what.

Stole an early 2nd round pick AND got the guy I wanted. Watkins plays opposite Gordon and Cameron and gives Brian Hoyer all the tools he needs to prove whether or not he is who many of us (and the coaching staff) thinks he is.

No QB in this draft class is worth an early 1st, and I make that clear in my moves.

CLE, the new owner of one of the most dangerous offenses in the NFL

Someone has to throw him the ball. They have Gordon, Cameron but NO QB or RB. WR is really deep and they could address that need with a later pick. You should of stayed and taken a QB. Just one mans thought.

Brian Hoyer, SPARTAN!

FWIW, he might not be a stud but he'll hold down the fort just fine this year.

 

[RJS113]

With the 4th pick, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Johnny Manziel.

I tried to trade up to the 2nd pick so I could draft Bridgewater, but I'd still be ecstatic getting Manziel here. Obviously, I'm not sold on Glennon, and if we were able to trade players, I'd immediately be looking to trade him for a 3rd round pick.

I expect the Bucs to sign a DE in free agency (probably Jared Allen), and getting Allen and Manziel would be huge steps in turning the Bucs into a legit playoff contender.

You probably saw more than I did, but from what I saw it seems they should at least give him an opportunity to improve and keep the job.

Glennon was solid last year, and I think he can be a decent starter. But I don't think he'll ever be better than guys like Andy Dalton or Matt Schaub. With the Bucs having to play Newton, Brees, and Ryan twice a year, I just don't see the Bucs winning the NFC South without a better QB than Glennon.

I think anytime a team has the opportunity to upgrade their QB, they should do it. The Bucs passed on Aaron Rodgers in 2005 because they already had Chris Simms. I don't want to see the Bucs make that mistake again. (And I understand Glennon had a better year last year than Simms did in 2004).

I also think a new head coach should pick his QB, instead of settling for who's already on the team. Freeman showed a ton of potential before Schiano was hired, but Freeman wasn't a Schiano guy, and it didn't work.

 

[Bob Magaw]

1.06 - Atlanta Falcons - Jake Matthews, OT - TAMu

For some dumb reason they gave Sam Baker a big contract. Unsurprisingly he didn't play up to it, getting himself and his quarterback hurt. Matthews would be a gift to this franchise.

And Dimitroff is enamored with this year's linemen.

Great pick, Andy.

 

[Soulfly3]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

 

[False Start]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26. Could have had Manziel or Bortles too.

 

[FUBAR]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

As a Lions fan, I'll attest that getting a 2nd WR isn't a bad thing.

Although, Charles Johnson has potential to be that #2 and Cleveland has more pressing needs.

If I were a Browns fan I'd prefer they didn't draft a QB high this year. Just don't see these guys worthy of a top 7 pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

That's not true. Gordon is great but is one strike away from a long vacation.

The rest of their guys are garbage.

And there's a bigger dropoff than it seems after Lee.

 

[Soulfly3]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26.

you're pissing and moaning about WRs being deep, and I disagree about your evaluation.

It's the same way that Im claiming that with this crop of QBs, I see little to no difference between a QB I can get in the 2nd/3rd round than the guys going top 3.

This QB class stinks.

 

[Bob Magaw]

The Cleveland Browns have traded their 1.04 pick to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

(Browns give their 1.04 and 3.7 picks for 1.7 and 2.6)

Would never happen. But I enjoy seeing something against the norm.

I'll tell you what, from a Browns perspective, they'd 110% do this trade.... Not to mention of the two guys I was considering drafting, one will now guaranteed be there for me in 2 picks from now.

I'm loving it

A 3rd for a 2nd to move up from 1.07 to 1.04? They wouldnt move that without a first added or a 2nd without a later swap of any earlier than a 5th. This is an NFL draft not fantasy. Look at the price it cost the Redskins to move up to 1.2 to take RG3.

there is nothing even remotely close to an RG3 or Luck in this draft - only overrated QBs who will benchride most of their careers, or have Locker type careers

Some of the 32 GMs and Coaches may disagree with you. Not all players play QB. Clowney's impact could be worthy of a high price maybe even Watkins.

Dare say 32 of the GMs would agree that an elite QB prospect far exceeds the value of any other elite prospect.

Yes, but thats considering RG3 is an elite, jury is still out on that. Luck was the only can't miss, RG3 had questions.

RG3 absolutely was an elite prospect. The jury is out on whether he becomes elite, but his future has nothing to do with how he was seen as a prospect.

I love how this turned into RG3 when my point is that trade would never be made with the need at QB for Cleveland and the sheer value is off. A swap of 3rd for a 2nd to move up 3 spot? That would rarely happen in fantasy let alone the NFL.

You brought up RG3 and unsurprisingly RG3 got talked about.

 

[False Start]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26.

you're pissing and moaning about WRs being deep, and I disagree about your evaluation.

It's the same way that Im claiming that with this crop of QBs, I see little to no difference between a QB I can get in the 2nd/3rd round than the guys going top 3.

This QB class stinks.

Pissing and moaning? I believe it is discussing, something you signed up for. I don't like your trade or pick, sorry. It is af Joe Banner still ran the team in this mock.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26.

you're pissing and moaning about WRs being deep, and I disagree about your evaluation.

It's the same way that Im claiming that with this crop of QBs, I see little to no difference between a QB I can get in the 2nd/3rd round than the guys going top 3.

This QB class stinks.

I think Bridgewater is a franchise QB... I struggled between him and Clowney at 1.1.

If Clowney lives up to the potential paired with Watt, they are on the way to building a team in the same fashion as NFC West teams do.

I understand you moving back a little there, but I don't think Watkins (as talented as he is) fills any huge gaps. They have an awesome pass catching tight end and a top 5 WR already.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

For a Shark Pool mock draft it was a great trade and for the Browns Watkins is a solid pick. WR Josh Gordon will take the safety so if WR Sammy Watkins is taken by the Browns he'd be able to run those short screens and do a lot of damage just as he did in college.

Anyone who argues that Sammy needs a QB and that Cleveland doesn't have one therefore he won't do anything if he gets drafted by the Browns.

Um, you do know that the Browns started three different QBs last year right? Brandon Weeden, Brian Hoyer, and Jason Cambell, yet WR Josh Gordon somehow lead all NFL WRs in yardage AFTER he sat the first two games serving a suspension.

Its a great trade for Shark Pool mock but not in the real NFL draft IMHO but the pick of Watkins could work in either the Shark Pool on in the real NFL draft if the Browns haven't target any of the QBs with their top pick and at this time I have absolutely no clue what they'll do in the real NFL draft.

I have no problems with Soulfly3's Shark Pool GM moves so-far in this draft. Good Job, err for a Shark Pool draft where its all good fun.

 

[Soulfly3]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26.

you're pissing and moaning about WRs being deep, and I disagree about your evaluation.

It's the same way that Im claiming that with this crop of QBs, I see little to no difference between a QB I can get in the 2nd/3rd round than the guys going top 3.

This QB class stinks.

Pissing and moaning? I believe it is discussing, something you signed up for. I don't like your trade or pick, sorry. It is af Joe Banner still ran the team in this mock.

I dont mean it as though i dont wanna hear your criticism, I love it. I was just making a point.

I loved my trade. Like i said.. I got the guy I wanted and get an early 2nd, gratis.

I also dont see how Watkins doesnt upgrade CLE in a major way. Defense isn't their most pressing need. Scoring is. I don't think hoyer is a saviour, but i do think he I'd as capable or moreso than any QB i would waste an early pick on.

CLE needs to score. To move the ball. and keep teams from doubling gordon.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Prefer Matthews > Robinson. Prefer Bridgewater to anyone. Prefer Bortles > JFF. Carry on.

 

[FatmanLittleboy]

As a Falcon fan I would have liked to have seen Kalil Mack selected. However since Baker can't stay healthy and we also need guard help Mathews wouldn't offend me. Maybe Van Noy is there in the 2nd.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Dufresne - Your pick, get busy living or get busy dying.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

That's not true. Gordon is great but is one strike away from a long vacation.

The rest of their guys are garbage.

And there's a bigger dropoff than it seems after Lee.

I would have taken a QB, but Soulfly has made his position clear in the CLE thread. Even though I don't agree, I respect that he has thought it out (and acknowledge he could be right). Good point about Gordon's shaky status. If STL doesn't take Watkins with the higher first round pick, I want them to move on from the position with the lower first. He is the biggest difference maker at the position from the class of '14. They do need to get a QB, but maybe one later will be better than the ones here, stranger things have happened (Russell Wilson, Foles). There is always next year, and Hoyer could be a solid interim QB. Meanwhile, Gordon and Watkins would, IMO, instantly be the best young WR tandem in the game. And with Cameron at TE, that would be some ridiculous receiving weapons, very difficult for AFC North to defend (who don't have the strongest secondaries across the board). Soulfly is sly like a fox, like Columbo. There is a method to his "madness". CLE isn't in the position they are in now because they were taking players like Sammy Watkins (it was the Richardson and Weedon-type picks that have been killers).

 

[RJS113]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26.

you're pissing and moaning about WRs being deep, and I disagree about your evaluation.

It's the same way that Im claiming that with this crop of QBs, I see little to no difference between a QB I can get in the 2nd/3rd round than the guys going top 3.

This QB class stinks.

Pissing and moaning? I believe it is discussing, something you signed up for. I don't like your trade or pick, sorry. It is af Joe Banner still ran the team in this mock.

I dont mean it as though i dont wanna hear your criticism, I love it. I was just making a point.

I loved my trade. Like i said.. I got the guy I wanted and get an early 2nd, gratis.

I also dont see how Watkins doesnt upgrade CLE in a major way. Defense isn't their most pressing need. Scoring is. I don't think hoyer is a saviour, but i do think he I'd as capable or moreso than any QB i would waste an early pick on.

CLE needs to score. To move the ball. and keep teams from doubling gordon.

To those that don't think the Browns should have traded down, what if the trade was 1.7 and Mike Glennon for 1.4?

Soulfly, what would you think from the Browns point of view?

 

[False Start]

Dufresne - Your pick, get busy living or get busy dying.

He picked at 8 already, just on page 3.

 

[FUBAR]

Prefer Matthews > Robinson. Prefer Bridgewater to anyone. Prefer Bortles > JFF. Carry on.

Agreed

Agreed with reservations

Agrees

Ok

 

[deadlyrange0321]

1.09 - Buffalo Bills select Eric Ebron TE North Carolina

Felt it was necessary to give EJ a physical weapon in the passing game. In addition, Ebron can be valuable in the run game to get Spiller loose on outside runs.

Considered going OT given a need at RT but felt it was too early to go RT. Also considered Safety but thought it was still too early to go safety. Ebron could be an elite prospect when it's all said and done.

I will admit that had Mathews been available, I think I would have been tempted to take him.

 

[False Start]

With the 10th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select...

WR, Mike Evans, Texas A&M

Through discussion above a WR2 is important for any team. Watkins is gone and would of been a no brainer and I fully expect to see him go in any mock draft before pick 10, so it is not an option. The Lions are Set at QB, RB and DLine. They need some OL LB CB S and WR. I think they hit big on Evans and draft OL and defense the rest of the way, maybe even a grab a TE (I was considering even Ebron here) if one falls to them in round three.

Evans is a big physical receiver who has the ability to be the counterpart to Calvin the Lions have been looking for. It is possible the Lions seek a WR in FA and draft Dennard here, but I think they have every intention of going with one of the Big 2 WRs if they are there.

 

[lsutigers]

With the 10th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select...

WR, Mike Evans, Texas A&M

Evans is a big physical receiver who has the ability to be the counterpart to Calvin the Lions have been looking for. It is possible the Lions seek a WR in FA and draft Dennard here, but I think they have every intention of going with one of the Big 2 WRs if they are there.

What an interesting landing spot for him. Although I'm very down on Evans because I don't believe he can create separation without pushing off (as he did vs. Alabama last year; LSU had a true freshman CB who shut him down), this would be an optimal spot for him with Megatron on the other side. Stafford has already shown a willingness to just fling the ball up and Evans is also a WR who can take advantage of that.

 

[Soulfly3]

Watkins, 1.26, 2.03, 2.06

Id be getting free blowies from all of Cleveland's armchair HC's.

I kinda disagree... They already had 2 first rounders... All you did was move back and exchange an early 3rd for an early 2nd. You also took a position they're not hurting at.

Seconded. WR will still be deep at pick 26.

you're pissing and moaning about WRs being deep, and I disagree about your evaluation.

It's the same way that Im claiming that with this crop of QBs, I see little to no difference between a QB I can get in the 2nd/3rd round than the guys going top 3.

This QB class stinks.

Pissing and moaning? I believe it is discussing, something you signed up for. I don't like your trade or pick, sorry. It is af Joe Banner still ran the team in this mock.

I dont mean it as though i dont wanna hear your criticism, I love it. I was just making a point.

I loved my trade. Like i said.. I got the guy I wanted and get an early 2nd, gratis.

I also dont see how Watkins doesnt upgrade CLE in a major way. Defense isn't their most pressing need. Scoring is. I don't think hoyer is a saviour, but i do think he I'd as capable or moreso than any QB i would waste an early pick on.

CLE needs to score. To move the ball. and keep teams from doubling gordon.

To those that don't think the Browns should have traded down, what if the trade was 1.7 and Mike Glennon for 1.4?

Soulfly, what would you think from the Browns point of view?

tbh, I dont mind Glennon. But I think Im comfortable with Hoyer having a season to prove himself - call me crazy, but from the small sample size Ive seen, and words from Browns insiders... Hoyer may be better than we all think

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The last two picks have poked some serious holes in the Jets' wish list. :(

 

[FUBAR]

Andy - can you update the draft post?

 

[Bob Magaw]

1.09 - Buffalo Bills select Eric Ebron TE North Carolina

Felt it was necessary to give EJ a physical weapon in the passing game. In addition, Ebron can be valuable in the run game to get Spiller loose on outside runs.

Considered going OT given a need at RT but felt it was too early to go RT. Also considered Safety but thought it was still too early to go safety. Ebron could be an elite prospect when it's all said and done.

I will admit that had Mathews been available, I think I would have been tempted to take him.

Ebron does look like a stud. When was the last time BUF had a great TE? If this happens for real, first top 10 TE since Vernon Davis, so somewhat bucking history. The Combine may reveal more about how rare a physical specimen and athlete he is (though I'm not expecting a Davis-like 4.4).

 

[fantasycurse42]

With the 10th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select...

WR, Mike Evans, Texas A&M

Through discussion above a WR2 is important for any team. Watkins is gone and would of been a no brainer and I fully expect to see him go in any mock draft before pick 10, so it is not an option. The Lions are Set at QB, RB and DLine. They need some OL LB CB S and WR. I think they hit big on Evans and draft OL and defense the rest of the way, maybe even a grab a TE (I was considering even Ebron here) if one falls to them in round three.

Evans is a big physical receiver who has the ability to be the counterpart to Calvin the Lions have been looking for. It is possible the Lions seek a WR in FA and draft Dennard here, but I think they have every intention of going with one of the Big 2 WRs if they are there.

I think Megatron plays a lot more in the slot and Evans would wind up as the X WR much more often. I don't think Evans has that versatility to play anything besides the X.

 

[Soulfly3]

Evans to the Lions seems to be... a lock for most mocks Ive seen. That'd be one hella scary offense... and if Stafford can correct his sloppiness - we could see a playoff team!!!

 

[Bob Magaw]

With the 10th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select...

WR, Mike Evans, Texas A&M

Through discussion above a WR2 is important for any team. Watkins is gone and would of been a no brainer and I fully expect to see him go in any mock draft before pick 10, so it is not an option. The Lions are Set at QB, RB and DLine. They need some OL LB CB S and WR. I think they hit big on Evans and draft OL and defense the rest of the way, maybe even a grab a TE (I was considering even Ebron here) if one falls to them in round three.

Evans is a big physical receiver who has the ability to be the counterpart to Calvin the Lions have been looking for. It is possible the Lions seek a WR in FA and draft Dennard here, but I think they have every intention of going with one of the Big 2 WRs if they are there.

Opposing secondaries are going to have nightmares about defending the CLE and DET WRs. Evans would be great for Calvin and Stafford, and they would be great for him. Good fit. Watkins almost certain to not last that long, next best WR fit here. DET has been trying to fill the WR2 opposite Johnson (Young, Broyles) for years. Instead of another smurf, they get another Megatron-sized humanoid.

 

[FUBAR]

1.11 - Anthony Barr, OL UCLA

Titans need a pass rush. While I'd prefer it to be a DE, Barr will still git er' dun. He's a work in progress, but a good fit here.

 

[Bob Magaw]

1.11 - Anthony Barr, OL UCLA

Titans need a pass rush. While I'd prefer it to be a DE, Barr will still git er' dun. He's a work in progress, but a good fit here.

I didn't think he would fall this far, but he has been dropping in some mocks. Some think he can run a 4.4, but probably a 4.5 best case scenario (still great for his size). Recent RB conversion, so tons of upside with some positional technical development. With DC Horton reunited with Whisenhunt and presumably going to a 3-4, ex-UCLA LBs Ayers and Barr an impressive set of athletic bookend OLBs coming off the edge. Some scouts gave him a top five overall grade, nice value here.

 

[Donnybrook]

Vikings defense was terrible last year and with their HC being their DC and that man being Mike Zimmer who loves to have his LBs rush the passer...

1.08 - Khalil Mack, OLB - Buffalo

Vikes are in real trouble this year. Their defensive line is in shambles, they have no QB (Ponder is the only one under contract), their corners (outside Rhodes) are awful, and their LB corps is in decline.

Long row to hoe for the Vikings the next two years.

Really thought about taking Mosley and Louis Nix here. But there's lots of talent available at DT in this draft.

Good pick. Maybe it the level of competition he played at but he looks like LT to me.

 

[FUBAR]

1.11 - Anthony Barr, OL UCLA

Titans need a pass rush. While I'd prefer it to be a DE, Barr will still git er' dun. He's a work in progress, but a good fit here.

I didn't think he would fall this far, but he has been dropping in some mocks. Some think he can run a 4.4, but probably a 4.5 best case scenario (still great for his size). Recent RB conversion, so tons of upside with some positional technical development. With DC Horton reunited with Whisenhunt and presumably going to a 3-4, ex-UCLA LBs Ayers and Barr an impressive set of athletic bookend OLBs coming off the edge. Some scouts gave him a top five overall grade, nice value here.

Honestly, don't really care about his 40. The vertical and broad jumps are somewhat more interesting, just to see his power.

What is the best drill to evaluate an OLB's pass rush skills?

 

[Late225]

Giants still looking for trade down opportunities

 

[Bracie Smathers]

To get caught up:

1 Houston - Fantasycurse42

- Jadeveon Clowney, DE - South Carolina

2 St. Louis (from Washington) - Bob Magaw

- Greg Robinson, LT - Auburn

3 Jacksonville - Mr. Brownstone

- Teddy Bridgewater, QB - Louisville

4 Tampa Bay - RJS113 (from Cleveland) - Soulfly3

- Johnny Manziel, QB - TAMu

5 Oakland - krsone21

- Blake Bortles, QB - UCF

6 Atlanta - Fatmanlittleboy

Jake Matthews, OT - TAMU

7 Cleveland - Soulfly3 (From Tampa Bay) - RJS113

Sammy Watkins, WR - Clemson

8 Minnesota - Andy D

- Khalil Mack, OLB - Buffalo

9 Buffalo - deadlyrange0321

- Eric Ebron, TE - UNC

10 Detroit - False Start

- Mike Evans, WR - TAMU

11 Tennessee - FUBAR

- Anthony Barr, DE/OLB - UCLA

12 NY Giants - Late225

13 St. Louis - Bob Magaw
14 Chicago - IHEARTFF
15 Pittsburgh - BigSteelThrill
16 Dallas - fantasycurse42
17 Baltimore - lsutigers
18 NY Jets - Dr. Octopus
19 Miami - MoveToSkypager
20 Arizona - Craig_miamiFL
21 Green Bay - Brewtown
22 Philadelphia - JetMaxx
23 Kansas City - FUBAR
24 Cincinnati - ummich10
25 San Diego - Ray Finkle
26 Cleveland - Soulfly3 (From Indianapolis) - Deranged Hermit
27 New Orleans - lsutigers
28 Carolina - tarheel1unc
29 New England - msudaisy26
30 San Francisco - The Fantasy Chef
31 Denver - Andy D
32 Seattle - Awful Waffle

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Giants would be thinking DE or CB here, no?

 

[Soulfly3]

Bracie, the 26th pick is mine

 

[deadlyrange0321]

Any other thoughts on Ebron? Ideally, would've liked to trade down but if we were to stay there, I felt we could potentially nab an elite prospect at a position of need and a position which could certainly enhance the development of EJ Manuel.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The 2nd post has the draft results/order. The first post was just for signup.

 

[Late225]

Pick traded to Ravens. More details to follow...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Any other thoughts on Ebron? Ideally, would've liked to trade down but if we were to stay there, I felt we could potentially nab an elite prospect at a position of need and a position which could certainly enhance the development of EJ Manuel.

I like it. They really need a true #1 WR but there are doubts that Evans or Lee (and certainly Benjamin) can fill that role.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Pick traded to Ravens. More details to follow...

Marqise Lee/Taylor Lewan/Zack Martin?

 

[FUBAR]

Any other thoughts on Ebron? Ideally, would've liked to trade down but if we were to stay there, I felt we could potentially nab an elite prospect at a position of need and a position which could certainly enhance the development of EJ Manuel.

I like it. They really need a true #1 WR but there are doubts that Evans or Lee (and certainly Benjamin) can fill that role.

seems a little high for him, but fills a need better than the others would. Something tells me they actually go defense, but Ebron makes sense.

 

[FUBAR]

Pick traded to Ravens. More details to follow...

Marqise Lee/Taylor Lewan/Zack Martin?

I'd take Lewan. Does Ozzie trade up often?

 

[lsutigers]

Giants and Baltimore have agreed to a trade.

Baltimore trades 1.17 and 3.17 to NY Giants for 1.12

With the 12th pick, the Baltimore Ravens select OT Taylor Lewan

Ozzie Newsome and the Baltimore Raven thinktank often gets credit for their “best available player or move down” strategy. But they are not afraid to move up as they have done so (move up) 4 times in the last 5 drafts. However, the 2003 draft (needing a franchise QB, took Suggs at 1.10, gave up 2003 2nd and 2004 1st for 1.19 for the pick that became Kyle Boller) taught them an important lesson: If you’re going to move up in or move back into the 1st, you better hit on “your guy”.

Immediate needs are O-line, WR and “rangy free safety” pointed out a few weeks ago. WR depth is nice in this draft (not sold on Lee's durability with a slight frame) and I believe we can find that FS in free agency at a good price. The tackle talent drop off after Matthews/Robinson/Lewan is steep imo. ROT Oher is not going to be retained and due to Eugene Monroe's age and talent level, I don't think the Ravens can outbid everyone for arguably the best free agent LOT. I think the move here is Lewan, last of the 3 elite OT's.

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Strengths

Accomplished, four-year starter vs. Big Ten competition. Clean kickslide in pass protection. Good knee bend, footwork and recovery quickness to handle outside speed and inside counters. Very good balance -- is seldom on the ground. Is quick climbing to the second level to reach linebackers. Plays with intensity and the game is very important to him. Tough and very durable.

Weaknesses

Is not a gritty, physical finisher. Has a lean lower body and does not explode on contact. Can be inverted by power and does not carry a load in his hands. Could do a better job recognizing and adjusting to the outside blitz. Quirky personality that can be easily misunderstood.

Bottom Line An experienced, finesse left tackle with the length, agility and temperament to hold down a starting job for a long time. Is nuanced in pass protection and would fit best in a slide-lateral movement, bucket-stepping, zone-based blocking scheme. Similar in mold to Patriots 2011 17th overall selection Nate Solder.

 

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Giants really couldve used Lewan