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Agree with both of you. Whatever else happens, all of Tom's striving has paid off and he's "made it". He only got the job by being an unbelievable suckup, and his marriage is a total sham, but he still arrived at the top of the greasy pole
No doubt.
Possible, but also possible that was a comment on the siblings' attention span. They're all in on The 100 or whatever that startup was called, but then they have a chance to buy Pierce, until their dad dies and they have a chance to gain control of Waystar Royco. And Living+ was only meant to juice the stock price in order to kill the Mattson deal. None of the underlying businesses actually mattered to the sibs. All of them -- dating all the way back to Vaulter in the series premiere -- were just means to an endIs Nan Pierce still waiting for the kids to pay her the $10 billion?
One regular theme for these writers over the 4 seasons is they had no problem creating major plot lines out of thin air one week, then completely dropping them, unresolved, never to be heard of again. The Pierce acquisition plotline dominated an entire episode and could have been really interesting, but I believe was completely dropped as though it never happened. Same with the "Living+" episode. They seemed to create a major plot crisis out of nowhere, devoted an entire episode to the Living+ storyline with Kendall potentially committing criminal fraud, etc. just a few episodes from the end, then never referenced it again except maybe in passing.
That's it exactly. The entire series, he's treated him like crap and Greg keeps coming back for more. He also probably knew him enough to know it wasn't personal. Greg was always a snake looking for his own angle
A snake who's gonna get busted down to...20, 30, 40k?
I wouldn’t go that far at all. For me personally, not close. I would never watch it again. Top series are those you can watch again and again.
Her original agreement with Kendall as the CEO was also a spite decision. But at that time it was to spite Mattson, who she realized had just used her.
Yeah, I really liked it, but it doesn't reach that Mt. Rushmore for me that The Wire and Breaking Bad do.
He‘s Tom’s pain sponge. **** rolls downhill and Tom wanted someone below he knows he can **** on.
Yeah, the more I think about it, a show doesn’t have to be rewatched to be top 10. Having said that, Succession isn’t anywhere near top 20, let alone top 10, or top 5 for me. I found those characters hard to watch. They were cringy at best.
Greg has a lot of dirt on Tom. Coverups, etc. Gotta keep him close.
One could interpret her message to Ken as all part of the spite to not want him to win. I can respect your take, but that's what it is, your take. She could always just sell her stock immediately while the value was still high and before Kendall does something to tank the stock, couldn't she?
Stock price value was pricing in the deal by that point, and premium over was being paid for getting control. If deal did not go through, it would have cratered pretty quickly, and she would have had to navigate insider trading laws.
In fact, now that he knows he's going to be Mattson's b***h, he probably needs Greg more than ever
I said that later on, after what you bolded.
They are all clowns on that show. That's the appeal I suppose.
No, but he does have the document dirt on him. Greg has Tom by the balls.
I love the last sentence. I told my wife that Roman was the big winner in that fiasco.
That stuff was resolved long ago, wasn’t it.
Recall that Kendall briefly considered going that route in S3 when Logan told him to "cash out and #### off!" He told Naomi they could take all their money and go live on a beach somewhere.
I rewatched that scene 3 times and only counted 5-5, despite the fact that they said 6-6 twice when Shiv left the room. Were there some absentee votes off screen or do I just suck at counting?
I am with you Johnny. Succession falls in that category of extremely entertaining and well produced, but the story lines and characters failed to resonate the same way shows like The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Justified, etc did with me. I can see how others may put it in their top 5 though because it was very well executed. It is definitely on my recommend list, just not my Mt Rushmore.
There are remote voters. Roman was going to leave and do so when he freaked after seeing Geri.
Too obvious. It hits harder this way.
Yeah you’re probably right.
After his begging and temper tantrum at Shiv and attack of Roman with the vote pending, stability isn’t in his future.
I think I messed up somewhere with my digital breadcrumbs: Yahoo's home page now show me FIVE articles about Succession
That’s for sure, but it makes for good tv.
There is an interview with Jeremy Strong out there where he says the scene continues after we see him sitting on the bench where he gets up and tries to jump in the water but the bodyguard (his dads ex guard) grabs him and stops it. Jeremy says it wasn’t in the script and was improvised by him and the bodyguard (surprisingly). But ultimately Jeremy thinks Jesse made the right decision to cut it at the bench.
It wouldn't make it into my Top 5 but definitely Top 10. I can see folks placing it in their Top 5.
Except he isn’t a clown. One of the reasons Shiv chose him over Kendall is that he knows how to survive and he’s much more astute at knowing and then exploiting the power weakness of others for his own benefit. For instance, he immediately picked up on what Mattson was selling.
Loved the variation on the theme he did for the end of the finale with Kendall on the bench
That was definitely in my ear worm today.
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Just finishing up season 6 (probably 3rd or 4th time through the series) in prep for the new season coming out in June.
You really think that Tom was even considered in Shiv's decision? I think you give way too much credit to Shiv. The entire show was about the kids trying to out do each other to claim the throne. If Shiv couldn't have it, there is no way she's giving it to one of her brothers.
I do. Not because she loves Tom or anything but just because Tom was a way to stay tapped into the company.
Not sure sbout this take either. the new boss calls him Judas - more likely Tom has to dump him
