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TE Mark Andrews, BAL (2 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Mark Andrews quick thinking helped to save a woman’s life on flight
Kudos to M.A. for being in the right place at the right time & speaking up!
Kudos to M.A. for being in the right place at the right time & speaking up!
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Been going TE 4/5 in the few early FFPC drafts I’ve done; Seems about right; for that price it could be a good value but with risk.
BoltNlava
Footballguy
How about trade wise? What's he worth to you now?
In FFPC Superflex (Triflex), I traded Andrews and the 2.08 for McBride. In 1 QB, I suppose that pick would be early second.
In FFPC startups, he's going as TE6, between Pitts and Hockenson.
I attempted to answer the Andrews value in an another thread earlier today.
A few weeks ago I saw a podcast from another draft/fantasy site doing an FFPC specific TE dynasty ranking. Had never listened to that podcast, but this was right up my alley so I gave it a go. I can't say I agreed much with their rankings but it mainly seemed that was due to they view things in that shorter window and hold a TE being 29-30 as not being much of a value loss vs one 5+ years younger and that's where I view things differently. I want to say they had Andrews #3, began discussing him as soon as TE2. Could tell they were not firm on the group in the 2-7 range.
Last week a buddy of mine sent me a trade value chart from another fantasy site and told me it was the best trade value chart he'd seen, this one did TEP. I looked it over, was a solid chart as they go for sure, they had Andrews tied at TE3, with McBride.
I don't agree with either of those and find myself in exact alignment with FFPC startup consensus, I'd have him as my TE6. I'd just add for me it's a tier drop down from TE5. It's sort of like Laporta as TE1 to me and probably the whole wide word, and then really close sorting out TE 2-4 among McBride, Kincaid, Pitts and Bowers. Would be very easy to see any of those 4 from that next tier as TE1 this time next year, but Laporta's combo of youth and having already done it wins out. McBride is pretty close btw on both of those criteira, youth and performance, just not the same as doing it as a rookie and while young he's a tad older, and his value could take a hit if they end up taking a top end WR which is why he remains more in the mix with those other 4 for me then clearly sitting at 2.
So for me Andrews would be TE6 but a I got a very significant tier break from 5 to 6.
ETA-I still think there is a decent chance the Ravens have to make a decision on Andrews or Likely after the 2024 season. Extend one, move the other so they don't just walk.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Tough one. Those are no trade leagues. I don't play in any TE premium dynasty leagues so he wouldn't be a player I would target in those.
(HULK)
(Smash)
He's being way undervalued in dynasty right now.
When evaluating a player, the main focus is the next 3 years, the minor focus is years 4 and 5. Anything beyond that is moot because it's simply too far in the future.
TEs simply last longer. Especially elite ones. Andrews is going to be at his peak still over the next 3 years, and maybe some age related decline years 4 or 5, but also maybe not any decline at that point.
He's a top 5 TE every season. His situation has not changed. His injury last year is not one that will impact future years. In PPG last season he was TE3 behind Kelce and Hock. Kelce is at the point of immediate age related fall off and Hock had an injury that will unfortunately impact him long term, while also losing his QB. LaPorta was close and is young and upcoming and his situation seems stable. I understand people putting him ahead of MAndrews. No one else. He's the TE2 or 1 in dynasty right now, and I'm certain he'll return to that by week 8 next year, so buy him all you can right now.
When evaluating a player, the main focus is the next 3 years, the minor focus is years 4 and 5. Anything beyond that is moot because it's simply too far in the future.
TEs simply last longer. Especially elite ones. Andrews is going to be at his peak still over the next 3 years, and maybe some age related decline years 4 or 5, but also maybe not any decline at that point.
He's a top 5 TE every season. His situation has not changed. His injury last year is not one that will impact future years. In PPG last season he was TE3 behind Kelce and Hock. Kelce is at the point of immediate age related fall off and Hock had an injury that will unfortunately impact him long term, while also losing his QB. LaPorta was close and is young and upcoming and his situation seems stable. I understand people putting him ahead of MAndrews. No one else. He's the TE2 or 1 in dynasty right now, and I'm certain he'll return to that by week 8 next year, so buy him all you can right now.
Proteus
Footballguy
I'm happy to have him, and happy to have Likely as well.
Bad news is it's a short bench compared to many dynasties.
Does it seem like the Ravens will hang onto Likely as the heir apparent? Or could likely get loose in a trade or FA any time soon?
Big Nate
Footballguy
I agree he is undervalued right now. There is a buy opportunity in some leagues where his value has dropped. Not a great time to sell because people aren't going to pay what his true value is.
If you are looking to sell you need to wait until the season and he puts up a multiple TD game scoring 20+ pts. Right now everyone is hyped for young players and rookie picks - tough selling vets right now. You won't get proper value for Andrews right now.
Rookiefever
Footballguy
I would consider Kincaid over him maybe… but he’s pretty much entrenched as my #3. not to mention likely would be a great handcuff if he misses. If you lose McBride Kittle or pitts there’s no solid backup to throw in the lineup imo.
Its kinda wild to me. He was TE2 when he went down last year and is still very much in his prime. He's the clear #1 pass catcher for his team (Flowers didn't really come on until Andrews was out) and TE is a huge focus of Monken's offense.
I have him TE3, and honestly, I think he's a lot closer to TE1 than TE5.
I do wonder if people are just trying to will new blood at the top. I've found both Andrews and Kittle to be falling too far.
I agree. And I've been guilty of it a bit too. Everyone looking for the new Laporta of last year, or the new Hokensen of a couple years back.... so Kincaid and McBride are flying up boards. Andrews becoming a bit undervalued now.
Kinda wild Kelce went that late too.
Per Rotoworld
Ravens HC John Harbaugh said Mark Andrews is missing practice with a “very minor thing.”
“We’re not missing with him right now,” Harbaugh said on Monday, adding, “Don’t worry about Mark. He’s going to be fine.” Andrews was involved in a serious car accident last Wednesday and hasn’t practiced since. He’s missed exactly three practices since the injury, but it doesn’t sound like there’s much to worry about at this time. Unless the team reports otherwise, we’d expect Andrews to be active for the Ravens’ Week 1 opener against the Chiefs.
Really? Statements like this make me wanna slap someone. WTF is a very minor thing? Is his thing broken? Torn? Ruptured? The only thing we know is he was in what was called a serious car accident, and hasn't practiced since.
Ravens HC John Harbaugh said Mark Andrews is missing practice with a “very minor thing.”
“We’re not missing with him right now,” Harbaugh said on Monday, adding, “Don’t worry about Mark. He’s going to be fine.” Andrews was involved in a serious car accident last Wednesday and hasn’t practiced since. He’s missed exactly three practices since the injury, but it doesn’t sound like there’s much to worry about at this time. Unless the team reports otherwise, we’d expect Andrews to be active for the Ravens’ Week 1 opener against the Chiefs.
Really? Statements like this make me wanna slap someone. WTF is a very minor thing? Is his thing broken? Torn? Ruptured? The only thing we know is he was in what was called a serious car accident, and hasn't practiced since.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I currently have Likely with the third highest target share on the team.
shoecrew22
Footballguy
Drafted Mark as my TE1 in a .5ppr / 1ppr for TEs with Kincaid.
I picked up likely as a handcuff in case mark goes down
I picked up likely as a handcuff in case mark goes down
-jb-
Footballguy
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
he's going to see more snaps either way.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
What’s this now?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
He got in a car accident and hasn’t practiced in awhile
GreenNGold
Footballguy
bump Likely
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I saw he was in an accident but I thought he only missed a few practices or something after.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah Harbaugh is being real coy saying oh don’t worry it’s just a minor thing, he’s fine. But yet he isn’t practicing so doesn’t seem that minor at this point.I saw he was in an accident but I thought he only missed a few practices or something after.
Chaka
Footballguy
Is that really saying much. How many good TE duos are there in the league?
Knox & Kincaid and I guess, in theory Mayer & Bowers. After that, none are coming to mind.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Laporta and myself is a good tandem.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Greatest tennis doubles team of all time: John McEnroe and anyone
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Point might be that He’s likely to steal some targets in 2 TE sets
efactor
Footballguy
As an aside from fantasy, he sucks at blocking. Doesn't even attempt to engage the defensive player. Jesus
dipandglide
Footballguy
I don't know. He's lumbering around out there and doesn't look 100%.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
How much of it might have to do with the car accident and/or the practice time he missed because of it?
GreenNGold
Footballguy
He is looking more like an early dead weight drop candidate to me