BrutalPenguin
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So if Hannibal Lector was a robot, SotL would be science fiction?
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The 101 Best Science Fiction/Fantasy Movies of All Time: 1. Interstellar (2 Viewers)
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure I know what #1 is, but I would have classified Ted as a comedy.
El Floppo
Footballguy
It places the midichlorianas in the basket
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Hmmm.2 of 3, but i think you might be choosing the incorrect one from the same director for #1.I have 8 still on my list that I'd guess would land in my top 30-40 or so that I don't see skimming your list (a few top 10). 1 artsy and boring (), 2 from the same director, one from a huge franchise, and 5 random ones that I thought of while staring at my shelf. I am guessing it's 2 of the first 4 I described, but who knows. Great movies taken today - all I would have had high on the list as well.
Maybe, but I have my ted talk on my number one movie transcribed and ready to post and defend it.
Scoresman
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1. Interstellar
2014 - 2h 49 - PG-13Director: Christopher Nolan
Metascore: 74
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When Earth becomes uninhabitable in the future, a farmer and ex-NASA pilot, Joseph Cooper, is tasked to pilot a spacecraft, along with a team of researchers, to find a new planet for humans.
While this film is on most top 100 sci-fi lists I've seen, it is not common to see it at the very top. I can explain why I think this is the greatest sci-fi movie of all time and why it is certainly my favorite. I will try to be brief, but I could write a grad school thesis on this movie.
1. This movie combines the best elements of hard and soft sci-fi. The best hard Sci-Fi movies leave you in awe, invoking a sense of wonder, inspiration, and even optimism. This movie hits on all of these. I don’t think a single movie has made me think or feel more after watching, with the exception of maybe 2001. What sets this movie apart from 2001 for me, is the emotion it invokes, the human element. This is a movie that is about our survival in the vast emptiness and loneliness of space, but also an intimate story about a father and daughter, and loss. Nolan is able to achieve both here. The dynamic of time dilation and how it affects people is criminally underused in sci-fi, but here it is central to the story, you see its effects in a gripping scene of intense loss when Coop returns from Miller's planet (with phenomenal acting on McConaughey's part).
What also drives the impact this movie has is that it depicts a future scenario we may have to deal with at some point, finding a new home and how difficult an undertaking that will be. There is one brilliant shot where they show you a supermassive blackhole, and you can see this tiny little rotating spec which is the ship with 4 astronauts inside, where all of humanity's hopes lie. It's a breathtaking visual, and the movie reminds you that space is a dangerous, lonely, and terrifying place, and that we are essentially ants trying desperately to survive against the odds.
2. The science is extremely sound. Probably one of the more accurate sci-fi movies ever made when it comes to the laws of physics. With some movies, you don't care about this because the movie isn't pretending to be accurate. This one is, and it succeeds on almost all levels. The time dilation on Miller's planet, the visual depiction of a wormhole, the depiction of the supermassive black hole, all rooted in known science. Dr. Kip Thorne consulted on the science for the movie, and he even later wrote a book on the science included in the film. Early on in production, it was agreed that no creative decisions made for the movie would violate the established physical laws of science, and anything speculative would spring from science, and not solely from the creative mind of a screenwriter.
3. Hans Zimmer's score is a masterpiece. I can think of no other soundtrack that better fits and helps drive the narrative of a film. The usage of an organ plays a central part to the score. An organ, which is often used in church music is used here to signify humanity's search for something greater than ourselves. My favorite is "Mountains", which plays while they are on Miller's planet, there is a clock ticking throughout this piece that sets it's rhythm. Due to the time dilation that occurs on Miller's planet, each tick, which are about 1.25 seconds apart, represents one day in Earth time. I could go on about other tracks too. Quite simply, this is my favorite score ever to be put to film.
In Summary, it's rare for a movie to appeal to your imagination and really make you think and want more, and for said story to touch your heart, and for the visuals, score, and story to come together perfectly. Interstellar does all of these beautifully IMO, and I believe this puts it in a league above the rest. Interstellar is not without faults. The "love triumphs over time" scene with Anne Hathaway is a bit ham-fisted, and I would've liked to see some of the other characters developed more (especially the Romily "waiting" on the ship for 23 years!). But this is already a long, ambitious movie and there's not much room for more. This film will **** with your mind, it will make you cry.
Trivia
- Early in pre-production, Dr. Kip Thorne laid down two guidelines to strictly follow: nothing would violate established physical laws, and that all the wild speculations would spring from science, and not from the creative mind of a screenwriter. Writer, Producer, and Director Sir Christopher Nolan accepted these terms, as long as they did not get in the way of the making of the movie. That did not prevent clashes, though; at one point Thorne spent two weeks talking Nolan out of an idea about travelling faster than light.
- According to Dr. Kip Thorne, the largest degree of creative license in this movie are the clouds of the ice planet, which are structures that probably go beyond the material strength which ice would be able to support.
- Composer Hans Zimmer was instructed by Sir Christopher Nolan to make a unique score: "it's time to reinvent. The endless string ostinatos need to go by the wayside, the big drums are probably in the bin." Nolan did not provide Zimmer a script or any plot details for writing music for the film, and instead gave the composer "one page of text" that "had more to do with Zimmer's story than the plot of the movie."
- Dr. Kip Thorne won a scientific bet against Stephen Hawking upon the astrophysics theory that underlies this movie. As a consequence, Hawking had to subscribe to Penthouse Magazine for a year. This famous bet was depicted in The Theory of Everything (2014).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Never saw it.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's true - that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve the slot.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Before everyone posts about it, I did mention one movie in the beginning that is classic that I would not be including, and before everyone posts about it here it is.
Clockwork Orange. Sorry, this one is the cinematic equivalent of nails on a chalkboard for me. The setting, stupid lingo no one can understand, it just hits the wrong nerve for me. I know I'm in the monority here, and it's fine.
Clockwork Orange. Sorry, this one is the cinematic equivalent of nails on a chalkboard for me. The setting, stupid lingo no one can understand, it just hits the wrong nerve for me. I know I'm in the monority here, and it's fine.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I wasnt sure it was a joke or not, I was just laughing how quickly it was posted.It's true - that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve the slot.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Okay, not the one I thought. I could have sworn it was already on the list.
My criticism is the same - Interstellar is great to look at and experience. But it's a so so story.
The world is ending and we're all going to starve...but at least we can still go to a ballgame. WTH?
My criticism is the same - Interstellar is great to look at and experience. But it's a so so story.
The world is ending and we're all going to starve...but at least we can still go to a ballgame. WTH?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Scoresman
Footballguy
Eh, yeah I guess so. But I guess that reaction is why it isn't here. Sometimes a movie is just too dated.
Yambag
Footballguy
I am a huge Nolan fan, have only seen this once and really enjoyed it. Time for a rewatch of this and a few others as well (Arrival, Contact) based on these rankings. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this!
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I love this movie and have watched it 3 times. I had this in my top 10, and might be my favorite Scifi.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Check your local theaters, Interstellar may be playing this week. It currently is in Minneapolis.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Okay, not the one I thought. I could have sworn it was already on the list.
My criticism is the same - Interstellar is great to look at and experience. But it's a so so story.
The world is ending and we're all going to starve...but at least we can still go to a ballgame. WTH?
I liked that scene. Those were the Yankees, and it shows just how far the world had regressed socially and commercially.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Yes!! Go see it in IMAX if you can find a ticket that is.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I can understand that. And Metropolis' story is pretty stupid. But it really does have great effects work given the time.
Eh, yeah I guess so. But I guess that reaction is why it isn't here. Sometimes a movie is just too dated.
Another that I'd put in that category is Island of Lost Souls.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I liked Interstellar, I don’t remember loving it, but there were definitely a few things that stuck with me
One was the robot, just completely changed my perception of what a functional future robot could look like
I need to queue this one up for a rewatch. Does not look like the 70mm IMAX cut is playing near me so probably just watch at home
One was the robot, just completely changed my perception of what a functional future robot could look like
I need to queue this one up for a rewatch. Does not look like the 70mm IMAX cut is playing near me so probably just watch at home
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
No love for TENET?
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I'm surprised that Guardian's of the Galaxy didn't make your top 100.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
No. More like outright loathing.
BrutalPenguin
Footballguy
Interstellar was great, top 10 for sure. There was just a little too much magic in the ending for me. Thanks for the list, it's been fun and educational.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I specifically omitted the comic book genre like MCU and DC stuff, otherwise a quarter of the list would have these because so many of them are excellent. This should be its own ranking thread.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
One of my favorite sci-fi (I've talked about it a few times around these parts) is Colossus: The Forbin Project.
Unavailable to stream anywhere is a problem. Your library may have a copy. Otherwise it's worth tracking down on eBay or wherever for even just a watch and then resell it.
Another film in recommended to Scoresman is The Fall. If you like Pan's Labyrinth (and/or Life of Pi) you'll like this one.
Unavailable to stream anywhere is a problem. Your library may have a copy. Otherwise it's worth tracking down on eBay or wherever for even just a watch and then resell it.
Another film in recommended to Scoresman is The Fall. If you like Pan's Labyrinth (and/or Life of Pi) you'll like this one.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Sunshine is another decent one that didn’t make the cut
FarFromHome
Footballguy
You put so much time into this and I appreciate it. It's been a fun journey. Mahalo.
I humbly ask one request if possible. I'm assuming you have the ability to list out the entire countdown in a post to look at? If not, all good.
I humbly ask one request if possible. I'm assuming you have the ability to list out the entire countdown in a post to look at? If not, all good.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I liked Interstellar and it did stick with me. I think the bottom line is that I just don't like Christopher Nolan. On a scale of 1 to 10, I think I probably rate every single movie of his about two points lower than everybody else. My favorite is Memento, and even that one sometimes feels like a chore to rewatch. I understand that I'm in the minority.
Scoresman
Footballguy
It's in the OP.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Check the first post on the first page
And I second the appreciation of the effort
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The one that I was hinting at that opened too much B.S. for me to do a list like this was The Prestige. That has grown into my favorite Nolan movie and one of my favorites in general.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I remembered this one as being 2/3 awesome, 1/3 stupid, but I've only seen it the once.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I need to watch that one again too
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Another avenue that I knew would cause issues. What about Christmas Carol too?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
John McClane was a hero, but he was no angel.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I remember the ending being kind of weird, not sure where I’d put it, probably in the 75-100 range
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I just love the atmosphere and look of that movie so much. It is one that I coded sci-fi adjacent, but it was one of that opened a whole rabbit hole of "well, if this qualifies...."
2001, Interstellar, and Empire were the 3 I thought were coming. The Prestige, Her, Donnie Darko, and Men In Black were the other ones that I circled because I didn't see on his list when I looked that I thought would be top 40 or so if I did something like this.
ETA: Just remembered Eternal Sunshine on the countdown so crossed that off.
the moops
Footballguy
well done @Scoresman
Fun thread
Fun thread
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Yeah, great list and thread @Scoresman - we have a lot of cross-over at the top.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Random ones I see on my little scribble sheet: Galaxy Quest, Palm Springs, About Time, Never Let Me Go, Starman, Last Starfighter, Another Earth, The Running Man, X-Files (first movie).
Scoresman
Footballguy
I did consider these two among a lot of others, but just drew the line personally. These are both such established Christmas movies/stories, that it felt weird in a Scifi/fantasy thread. Oh and if I did do Christmas Carol, it would HAVE to be the muppets version.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
How is the Prestige Sci-Fi or Fantasy - maybe I'm remembering incorrectly (its been a while) but wasn't his big trick a scam?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Then you do not remember a main plot point.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I thought for sure you guys would pick up on Interstellar when I said a few times I'm a sucker for father/son/daughter stuff, and also a big fan of hard scifi over soft in general.
A lot of the movies mentioned I did consider, just have outside the list. X-Files was on the honorable mention list.
A lot of the movies mentioned I did consider, just have outside the list. X-Files was on the honorable mention list.
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