The 10th spot (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

There were some very informative topic on drafting spots (see links below), but nothing I could find on the 10th pick. I'd like to know in a redraft, 16 round, non ppr, 10 team what your thoughts are. Snake drafting style.

Antsports ADP had guys like Rudi, R. Brown, S. Smith, even Jackson around the 10th and 11th turn. I'm leary about S. Smith that early, but some are doing this.

What are your thoughts on rounds 1-6 at the 10th spot.

Those that have already had their draft, how did it shake out for you?

The 1-6 spots discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=255477

The 4th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=255883

and here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256691

The 5th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254028

The 7th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254027

The 8th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256617

The 9th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256396

 

[AcerFC]

I have number 10 as well, but in a 12 man league. I think you have to take 2 Running backs with 10 and 11. You should be able to land 2 of these guys, L Jordan, R Brown, S Jackson, R Johnson, and C Williams. By getting 2 of those RBs gives you an awesome tandem and takes away a RB that another team might draft in round 2.

You can wait on a WR in Round 3 and still might be able to land M Harrison, R Wayne, C Chambers and maybe even Boldin or Fitz depending on what your league mates value. They may be scrambling to land a second or third tier Running back because the picking are slim and then a great WR falls to you

 

[BigTex]

I have number 10 as well, but in a 12 man league. I think you have to take 2 Running backs with 10 and 11. You should be able to land 2 of these guys, L Jordan, R Brown, S Jackson, R Johnson, and C Williams. By getting 2 of those RBs gives you an awesome tandem and takes away a RB that another team might draft in round 2. You can wait on a WR in Round 3 and still might be able to land M Harrison, R Wayne, C Chambers and maybe even Boldin or Fitz depending on what your league mates value. They may be scrambling to land a second or third tier Running back because the picking are slim and then a great WR falls to you

You make some good points, it seems that some of the ADP and mocks I've seen are going RB/WR at 10/11. I don't know if that's the majority or the minority thinking this is the way to go or not.

 

[BigTex]

I'm picking 8th in my league but it's a one-keeper league and LJ will be gone so I'm essentially picking 9th. I'm interested to see how others are approaching this spot. Here's what I've been thinking (for further context, this is a flex league and non-PPR).FIRST ROUNDI want to get a RB in this round since there are so few good ones this year in my opinion. I'd love for Edge to fall to me but I have zero belief that he will. That means I'm likely looking at one of the following:JordanRudiJacksonCadillacBrownOf that group, Rudi's the safest play. He doesn't have much upside but given his production it really doesn't matter. He's pretty much money in the bank. I like Jordan but something about him as my RB1 just leaves me unsettled so I really wouldn't be bothered if he was off the board by the time I picked so I didn't have to take him. That leaves the youngsters in Jackson, Cadillac and Brown. I really like all three potentially but I have concerns about durability issues regarding Cadillac and Brown. So at the moment I'm leaning toward Jackson if he's there. I think he's talented, in a very good situation and should get plenty of touches. He could fizzle out on me and that's the risk but that can be said about nearly every RB after the Top 5 this year. So if Jackson's there and Edge is gone, Jackson's the guy I'm going to go with. If Jackson's gone and the rest of the RBs above are still available I'll probably be conservative and go with Rudi.SECOND ROUNDAgain, my league is a one-keeper league so Smith will be kept. That means instead of picking 17th as I would from the 8th hole in a 12-team re-draft I'll actually be picking 19th. My thought process here is to take McGahee for my RB2 if he's still on the board. I'm starting to feel all warm and fuzzy again about Kevin Jones (Lord help me) and I doubt he'll be there in the third so if I want him I'll have to take him here. I'm 50-50 on that right now. If McGahee and Jones are both gone, I'm going after the best of the top WRs who would be available. In order, I have them ranked: Smith (who is a keeper), Johnson, Holt, Owens, Fitzgerald and Harrison. Maybe I'd add Moss to that list as well. I'm 50-50 on that right now too. So if McGahee is gone I'll consider Jones or one of the stud WRs. But right now I'm hoping to get McGahee there with my second pick.THIRD ROUNDIf Jones is still on the board, I'm taking him even if I've already got two RBs with my first two picks. Same with Bush. But they're both gone I'll likely be looking WR. If one of the stud WRs are still available I'll take him but that's unlikely. At WR, I would definitely take Ward and Roy Williams in this round but I expect both to be kept. That means I'll likely be looking at one of the following WRs -- Boldin, Chambers or Driver. I really like Driver a lot this year (no, that's not a homer call) so if I can get him here I'm going to go that direction. But I'd be happy with any of these four WRs in this round. If I took a WR in the second round, I highly doubt I'll take another so that means I'm back looking at RBs likely having to choose from a group of the following -- Taylor, Lewis, Foster (probably a keeper but I'm not very high on him anyway), Dunn and Dillon. Of that group I'd be content with Taylor, Dunn or Dillon and maybe Lewis. I'm not a big Lewis guy this year so I wouldn't be overjoyed to have him.So after three rounds -- here's the start I'm hoping to have:1 - Jackson2 - McGahee3 - Boldin/Chambers/DriverBut it could be something more like this:1 - Rudi2 - Holt3 - Dunn (if I could replace Dunn with Kevin Jones here I'd be much happier)Then in the fourth/fifth I'd target an upside RB such as Gore, Addai, DeAngelo Williams and hopefully secure someone like that as my RB3.

JordanRudiJacksonCadillacBrownAccording to some of the mocks I've seen these guys may be available at that spot. If I had to rank them it would be like this:1. Rudi2. Jackson3. Jordan4. Cadillac5. BrownConsidering all things equal I'd imagine the draft shaking out like this RB/RB @ 10/11th, WR/WR, @ 30/31st, TE/QB @ 50/51th pick.This is also a flex (RB/WR)

 

[packersfan]

LOL, you deleted your post? Could you not have kept your response here AND started another?



http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256396

After I posted it I didn't think it would be of as much help to you in the 10th spot as I originally thought. So I didn't want to waste your time with something that wasn't applicable. Sorry.

 

[gruecd]

Hey, Tex. I'm drafting out of the 10 hole in a couple of my leagues, too. I've done a couple of mocks, so I'll do a write-up when I have a minute.

Good topic, though.

 

[BigTex]

Hey, Tex. I'm drafting out of the 10 hole in a couple of my leagues, too. I've done a couple of mocks, so I'll do a write-up when I have a minute.Good topic, though.

I can't wait to see it! I've run a few mocks with the Draft Dominator and unless the other owners begin to reach, it could be a very long season.

 

[packersfan]

Hey, Tex. I'm drafting out of the 10 hole in a couple of my leagues, too. I've done a couple of mocks, so I'll do a write-up when I have a minute.Good topic, though.

I can't wait to see it! I've run a few mocks with the Draft Dominator and unless the other owners begin to reach, it could be a very long season.

What makes you say that, Tex? Just curious what's disappointing you in the mocks you've done so far.

 

[Marc Levin]

I have number 10 as well, but in a 12 man league.

I just finished a 12-teamer from the 10, PPR. 1/2/2/1/1/1Went Westbrook in the first and Holt in the second (and he was the 4th WR off the board!) I played RB2BC - ended up with Foster (backed by DeAneglo Williams later in the draft), and I took shots on DRhodes and C BRown, I later added Ryan Moats behind Westbrook, but I have 18 roster spots. I'll be fine at RB in a PPR league.I have an AWESOME WR crew:Holt, Branch, RSmith, Amani Toomer and Ike Bruce - the Bruce/Holt pairing I am especially excited about.If thise were not PPR, I'd have gone with a different first round RB - probably Ronnie Brown or Rudi Johnson - and I'd have concentrated more at RB.I busted the cherry on TEs by taking Antonio Gates at 3.10. To bust the TE nut that late is unusual, but he was CLEARLY more valuable att he spot than taking a WR2 or RB2.It just shaked out well for me - I can't really advocate a spoecific strategy - it all depends onyour scoring system (you don't do PPR), roster (you have a relatively small roster size), positional limitations, and how risk averse a player you are.I am willing to take risks in the early rounds by going away from RB, but I am averse to taking risks on players who have health concerns without backing them up.

 

[Marc Levin]

There were some very informative topic on drafting spots (see links below), but nothing I could find on the 10th pick. I'd like to know in a redraft, 16 round, non ppr, 10 team what your thoughts are. Snake drafting style.

Antsports ADP had guys like Rudi, R. Brown, S. Smith, even Jackson around the 10th and 11th turn. I'm leary about S. Smith that early, but some are doing this.

What are your thoughts on rounds 1-6 at the 10th spot.

Those that have already had their draft, how did it shake out for you?

The 4th spot was discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=255883

The 1-6 spots was discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=255477

The 9th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256396

BTW, 10th in a 10-team is the EXACT same strategy as 12th in a 12 team - EXACT. Go find those threads and you will have your STRATEGY questions answered.If all you give a crap about are having a strong set of RB1/2, then take two RBs and move on into your draft, but the draft is way more than the first two 2 rounds - go read the drafting 12th from a 12 and you will have ALL your answers.

 

[BigTex]

There were some very informative topic on drafting spots (see links below), but nothing I could find on the 10th pick. I'd like to know in a redraft, 16 round, non ppr, 10 team what your thoughts are. Snake drafting style.

Antsports ADP had guys like Rudi, R. Brown, S. Smith, even Jackson around the 10th and 11th turn. I'm leary about S. Smith that early, but some are doing this.

What are your thoughts on rounds 1-6 at the 10th spot.

Those that have already had their draft, how did it shake out for you?

The 4th spot was discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=255883

The 1-6 spots was discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=255477

The 9th spot discussed here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256396

BTW, 10th in a 10-team is the EXACT same strategy as 12th in a 12 team - EXACT. Go find those threads and you will have your STRATEGY questions answered.If all you give a crap about are having a strong set of RB1/2, then take two RBs and move on into your draft, but the draft is way more than the first two 2 rounds - go read the drafting 12th from a 12 and you will have ALL your answers.

"If all you give a crap about are having a strong set of RB1/2, then take two RBs and move on into your draft, but the draft is way more than the first two 2 rounds - go read the drafting 12th from a 12 and you will have ALL your answers."What is your problem, I don't believe drafting 10th is the same as drafting from the 12th. If this was the case then please give the same opinion in the threads posted above. Please show me where in my post that it states I'm only concerned about the first two rounds................please show me this. I've already studied the freaking 12th in a 12 and it's not the same.

It's obvious to me that you did not read my initial post.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[BigTex]

Hey, Tex. I'm drafting out of the 10 hole in a couple of my leagues, too. I've done a couple of mocks, so I'll do a write-up when I have a minute.Good topic, though.

I can't wait to see it! I've run a few mocks with the Draft Dominator and unless the other owners begin to reach, it could be a very long season.

What makes you say that, Tex? Just curious what's disappointing you in the mocks you've done so far.

According to the DD, there will/should or maybe a run on WR in the second and third round after I pick. By the time I pick in the 3rd it'll be slim pickens for WRs. If I was to go RB/WR 10/11, then my only option at RB (3rd round) would be Gado (considering some of these guys won't reach and it plays out like the DD). The other owners are all commissioners of other leagues so I don't believe they'll making too many mistakes.

 

[Marc Levin]

I've already studied the freaking 12th in a 12 and it's not the same.It's obvious to me that you did not read my initial post. Thanks for the advice.

OK - I'll bite.It is SLIGHTLY different - it is MORE important to slough off of QB since there will be even MORE QBs available late. Forget QB till the 7th/8th turn.You have a better shot at Antonio Gates as the TE1 at the 3.10 pick - if he's there grab him.Otherwise, it is exactly the same strategy - try to maximize value by taking two of the same position at each turn - your back to back picks means you lose the most talent between your picks. You also want to hedge against one of your picks at the 1/2 turn not working out, so taking two RBs at the 1/2 turn is the best protection for your RB position.If you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn, make your 3/4 turn RB/RB. Look to draft some current RBBC/handcuff situaitons that are probably going to be a primary RB by opening day - Rhodes/Addai, McAllister/Bush, Bell/Dayne, Foster/Williams, Benson/TJones come to mind. That should be sufficient to fill your RB2 spot if you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn. Regardless, with only 30 players gone, you either have a lot of stud WRs left or there are starting RBs like Warrick Dunn available.Stud-WR is never advisable if you are at the end in a non-PPR league. It is probably not advisable this year even in a PPR league under 14 teams. There are simply too many decent WR options that you don't gain a real advantage, and you fall way back at RB. In larger leagues, you have to work your advantage wherever you can find it, so stud WR can work.All these points were made in the 12th in a 12 thread as part of the strategy of working from the end.As for specific players, see my post above where I tell you what I got from the 10-hole in a 12-team league. I think you could get similar players at the turn in a 10 team league.On another point, at your turn in the 3rd/4th, there are a TON of decent RB options available according to antsports. The DD must show more than Gado available at RB, or else there MUST BE a ton of awesome WRs left. In every draft I have been involved in so far - all in TWELVE team leagues - at least Warrick Dunn, Tatum Bell and Reggie Bush was available at the 3/4 turn. So, you are doing something wrong if the DD tells you the best RB available at the 3/4 turn in a 10-team league is Gadnly 30 players off the board and Gado's your best RB? If that's the case, then there are almost all of the top-8 WRs available, or else Peyton Manning and all the TEs are still on the board. My advice in a 10-team league is to grab 2 RBs at the 1/2 turn and look for two top-8 WRs (or a top-8 WR and Antonio Gates) at the 3/4 turn.Is that a better response?

 

[BigTex]

I've already studied the freaking 12th in a 12 and it's not the same.It's obvious to me that you did not read my initial post. Thanks for the advice.

OK - I'll bite.It is SLIGHTLY different - it is MORE important to slough off of QB since there will be even MORE QBs available late. Forget QB till the 7th/8th turn.You have a better shot at Antonio Gates as the TE1 at the 3.10 pick - if he's there grab him.Otherwise, it is exactly the same strategy - try to maximize value by taking two of the same position at each turn - your back to back picks means you lose the most talent between your picks. You also want to hedge against one of your picks at the 1/2 turn not working out, so taking two RBs at the 1/2 turn is the best protection for your RB position.If you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn, make your 3/4 turn RB/RB. Look to draft some current RBBC/handcuff situaitons that are probably going to be a primary RB by opening day - Rhodes/Addai, McAllister/Bush, Bell/Dayne, Foster/Williams, Benson/TJones come to mind. That should be sufficient to fill your RB2 spot if you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn. Regardless, with only 30 players gone, you either have a lot of stud WRs left or there are starting RBs like Warrick Dunn available.Stud-WR is never advisable if you are at the end in a non-PPR league. It is probably not advisable this year even in a PPR league under 14 teams. There are simply too many decent WR options that you don't gain a real advantage, and you fall way back at RB. In larger leagues, you have to work your advantage wherever you can find it, so stud WR can work.All these points were made in the 12th in a 12 thread as part of the strategy of working from the end.As for specific players, see my post above where I tell you what I got from the 10-hole in a 12-team league. I think you could get similar players at the turn in a 10 team league.On another point, at your turn in the 3rd/4th, there are a TON of decent RB options available according to antsports. The DD must show more than Gado available at RB, or else there MUST BE a ton of awesome WRs left. In every draft I have been involved in so far - all in TWELVE team leagues - at least Warrick Dunn, Tatum Bell and Reggie Bush was available at the 3/4 turn. So, you are doing something wrong if the DD tells you the best RB available at the 3/4 turn in a 10-team league is Gadnly 30 players off the board and Gado's your best RB? If that's the case, then there are almost all of the top-8 WRs available, or else Peyton Manning and all the TEs are still on the board. My advice in a 10-team league is to grab 2 RBs at the 1/2 turn and look for two top-8 WRs (or a top-8 WR and Antonio Gates) at the 3/4 turn.Is that a better response?

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I'm in the same slot but a +1 per reception for wr and te only. Almost all of the drafts I've done, both 12 team and 10 team since i'm in both, have presented a Rudi Johnson and Chad Johnson combo. I'm basically forced to choose the Bengal I want, so I'm mostly drafting Ronnie Brown and Chad J.

I also think it is a must to try to get Shockey or Gates at the TE in this draft slot. +1 per reception for TE and WR only remember. And there have been lots of fourth and fifth round rbs that are attractive. Rhodes, Dunn, Addai, Bush, Green, White. I don't expect these guys to always be around late, but one or two have dropped in every draft I've seen. Bush will probably be too expensive in the real drafts in which I would want him.

On QB, I'm in a 4 point per TD rule unless it is 40 yards or more, so there are plenty of 6-7 or 7-8 round combos that I would love. Warner/Favre? Vick/Rothelesberger? Sign me up!

**eta scoring fixes.

 

[Marc Levin]

I've already studied the freaking 12th in a 12 and it's not the same.It's obvious to me that you did not read my initial post. Thanks for the advice.

OK - I'll bite.It is SLIGHTLY different - it is MORE important to slough off of QB since there will be even MORE QBs available late. Forget QB till the 7th/8th turn.You have a better shot at Antonio Gates as the TE1 at the 3.10 pick - if he's there grab him.Otherwise, it is exactly the same strategy - try to maximize value by taking two of the same position at each turn - your back to back picks means you lose the most talent between your picks. You also want to hedge against one of your picks at the 1/2 turn not working out, so taking two RBs at the 1/2 turn is the best protection for your RB position.If you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn, make your 3/4 turn RB/RB. Look to draft some current RBBC/handcuff situaitons that are probably going to be a primary RB by opening day - Rhodes/Addai, McAllister/Bush, Bell/Dayne, Foster/Williams, Benson/TJones come to mind. That should be sufficient to fill your RB2 spot if you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn. Regardless, with only 30 players gone, you either have a lot of stud WRs left or there are starting RBs like Warrick Dunn available.Stud-WR is never advisable if you are at the end in a non-PPR league. It is probably not advisable this year even in a PPR league under 14 teams. There are simply too many decent WR options that you don't gain a real advantage, and you fall way back at RB. In larger leagues, you have to work your advantage wherever you can find it, so stud WR can work.All these points were made in the 12th in a 12 thread as part of the strategy of working from the end.As for specific players, see my post above where I tell you what I got from the 10-hole in a 12-team league. I think you could get similar players at the turn in a 10 team league.On another point, at your turn in the 3rd/4th, there are a TON of decent RB options available according to antsports. The DD must show more than Gado available at RB, or else there MUST BE a ton of awesome WRs left. In every draft I have been involved in so far - all in TWELVE team leagues - at least Warrick Dunn, Tatum Bell and Reggie Bush was available at the 3/4 turn. So, you are doing something wrong if the DD tells you the best RB available at the 3/4 turn in a 10-team league is Gadnly 30 players off the board and Gado's your best RB? If that's the case, then there are almost all of the top-8 WRs available, or else Peyton Manning and all the TEs are still on the board. My advice in a 10-team league is to grab 2 RBs at the 1/2 turn and look for two top-8 WRs (or a top-8 WR and Antonio Gates) at the 3/4 turn.Is that a better response?

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[BigTex]

 

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[PennState-JD]

Just completed a mock picking at the 10 spot in a 12 team. I was suprised by some of the value late, but wasn't overly thrilled with my RBs. There is potential, but no sure thing.

Starting line up is QB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE, K, D

Round: 1

(1) Team Heisler - Larry Johnson RB

(2) Team Keech - Shaun Alexander RB

(3) Team H. - LaDainian Tomlinson RB

(4) Team ashman - Tiki Barber RB

(5) Team Blyth - Clinton Portis RB

(6) Team Yuen - Edgerrin James RB

(7) Team Medina - Steven Jackson RB

(8) Team Brody - LaMont Jordan RB

(9) Team Lulgjuraj - Rudi Johnson RB

** (10) Team Engel - Ronnie Brown RB

(11) Team Sutter - Carnell Williams RB

(12) Team DiPuccio - Peyton Manning QB

I wanted Rudi here, but he went one before. Basically came down to Ronnie v. Caddy. With no PPR, went with Ronnie.

Round: 2

(13) Team DiPuccio - Brian Westbrook RB

(14) Team Sutter - Steve Smith WR

** (15) Team Engel - Terrell Owens WR

(16) Team Lulgjuraj - Domanick Davis RB

(17) Team Brody - Torry Holt WR

(18) Team Medina - Chad Johnson WR

(19) Team Yuen - Willis McGahee RB

(20) Team Blyth - Kevin Jones RB

(21) Team ashman - Julius Jones RB

(22) Team H. - Jamal Lewis RB

(23) Team Keech - Larry Fitzgerald WR

(24) Team Heisler - Antonio Gates TE

With the emphasis on WR's (start up to 3), I wanted a stud. I could have gone Holt or Chad, but I think TO is simply a beast when he plays (yes, injury risk, but Chad has risk with Palmer potentially sitting briefly too).

Round: 3

(25) Team Heisler - Carson Palmer QB

(26) Team Keech - Chester Taylor RB

(27) Team H. - Marvin Harrison WR

(28) Team ashman - Reggie Bush RB

(29) Team Blyth - Randy Moss WR

(30) Team Yuen - Anquan Boldin WR

(31) Team Medina - Corey Dillon RB

(32) Team Brody - Hines Ward WR

(33) Team Lulgjuraj - Reuben Droughns RB

** (34) Team Engel - Willie Parker RB

(35) Team Sutter - Joseph Addai RB

(36) Team DiPuccio - DeShaun Foster RB

Willie was the DD pick here. DW worries me in Carolina, as does Fosters' injury history. I really didn't want to be faced with having to handcuff later with DW either...

Round: 4

(37) Team DiPuccio - Santana Moss WR

(38) Team Sutter - Chris Chambers WR

** (39) Team Engel - Reggie Wayne WR

(40) Team Lulgjuraj - Ahman Green RB

(41) Team Brody - Tom Brady QB

(42) Team Medina - Donovan McNabb QB

(43) Team Yuen - Tatum Bell RB

(44) Team Blyth - Roy Williams WR

(45) Team ashman - Matt Hasselbeck QB

(46) Team H. - Daunte Culpepper QB

(47) Team Keech - Andre Johnson WR

(48) Team Heisler - Plaxico Burress WR

2nd stud WR with great upside. Was debating between Wayne and Roy. Thought I might see Dunn slip to me in round 5.

Round: 5

(49) Team Heisler - Warrick Dunn RB

(50) Team Keech - Cedric Benson RB

(51) Team H. - Darrell Jackson WR

(52) Team ashman - T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR

(53) Team Blyth - Deuce McAllister RB

(54) Team Yuen - Joey Galloway WR

(55) Team Medina - Todd Heap TE

(56) Team Brody - Tony Gonzalez TE

(57) Team Lulgjuraj - Thomas Jones RB

** (58) Team Engel - Chris Brown RB

(59) Team Sutter - Jeremy Shockey TE

(60) Team DiPuccio - Javon Walker WR

Knew I had to get 2 decent RBs with these picks as RBrown and FWP aren't exactly proven yet. Brown was the best available in terms of a guy who has been named the starter.

Round: 6

(61) Team DiPuccio - Dominic Rhodes RB

(62) Team Sutter - Drew Bledsoe QB

** (63) Team Engel - Frank Gore RB

(64) Team Lulgjuraj - Rod Smith WR

(65) Team Brody - Laurence Maroney RB

(66) Team Medina - Joe Horn WR

(67) Team Yuen - Fred Taylor RB

(68) Team Blyth - Eli Manning QB

(69) Team ashman - Jerry Porter WR

(70) Team H. - Donald Driver WR

(71) Team Keech - LenDale White RB

(72) Team Heisler - Laveranues Coles WR

Gore had too much potential to not make this pick in the 6th. With 2 good WRs already, I felt like having some RB depth was critical. With Turner in SF and a better OL, Gore has upside should he beat out Barlow. Not a Taylor fan, so not an option.

Round: 7

(73) Team Heisler - Marion Barber RB

(74) Team Keech - Marc Bulger QB

(75) Team H. - DeAngelo Williams RB

(76) Team ashman - Steelers D/ST D/ST

(77) Team Blyth - Chris Cooley TE

(78) Team Yuen - Ron Dayne RB

(79) Team Medina - T.J. Duckett RB

(80) Team Brody - Keenan McCardell WR

(81) Team Lulgjuraj - Mike Anderson RB

** (82) Team Engel - Michael Vick QB

(83) Team Sutter - Lee Evans WR

(84) Team DiPuccio - Jason Witten TE

I think Musgrave is really going to help Vick this year. In the 7th, I think it is fair value. Witten was a consideration, but I thought there would be a QB run and Vick wouldn't be there in the 8th.

Round: 8

(85) Team DiPuccio - Jake Delhomme QB

(86) Team Sutter - Jake Plummer QB

** (87) Team Engel - Alge Crumpler TE

(88) Team Lulgjuraj - Drew Brees QB

(89) Team Brody - Bears D/ST D/ST

(90) Team Medina - David Givens WR

(91) Team Yuen - Samkon Gado RB

(92) Team Blyth - Randy McMichael TE

(93) Team ashman - Trent Green QB

(94) Team H. - Ben Roethlisberger QB

(95) Team Keech - Nate Burleson WR

(96) Team Heisler - Panthers D/ST D/ST

At this point, Crump was one of the few proven TEs out there. I considered passing on TE and going QB or WR, but I didn't want to have to take a chance on younger guys like Troupe, Winslow, etc. working out. Crump is pretty consistent plus it eliminates someone using him to kill Vick's totals in a head to head (since Crump is essentially Atlanta's #1). Plus, there seems to still be value at WR & QB.

Round: 9

(97) Team Heisler - Koren Robinson WR

(98) Team Keech - Heath Miller TE

(99) Team H. - Curtis Martin RB

(100) Team ashman - Mewelde Moore RB

(101) Team Blyth - Kurt Warner QB

(102) Team Yuen - Eddie Kennison WR

(103) Team Medina - Deion Branch WR

(104) Team Brody - Mike Bell RB

(105) Team Lulgjuraj - Brett Favre QB

** (106) Team Engel - Derrick Mason WR

(107) Team Sutter - Kevan Barlow RB

(108) Team DiPuccio - Brandon Lloyd WR

Concussion aside, if he reconnects with McNair, this is a steal in the 9th.

Round: 10

(109) Team DiPuccio - Donte' Stallworth WR

(110) Team Sutter - L.J. Smith TE

** (111) Team Engel - Drew Bennett WR

(112) Team Lulgjuraj - Aaron Brooks QB

(113) Team Brody - Muhsin Muhammad WR

(114) Team Medina - Greg Jones RB

(115) Team Yuen - Byron Leftwich QB

(116) Team Blyth - Neil Rackers K

(117) Team ashman - Priest Holmes RB

(118) Team H. - Vernon Davis TE

(119) Team Keech - Matt Jones WR

(120) Team Heisler - Shayne Graham K

Tennessee's #1 WR -- bench depth with boom or bust potential

Round: 11

(121) Team Heisler - Derrick Blaylock RB

(122) Team Keech - Joe Jurevicius WR

(123) Team H. - Colts D/ST D/ST

(124) Team ashman - Jerramy Stevens TE

(125) Team Blyth - Terry Glenn WR

(126) Team Yuen - Seahawks D/ST D/ST

(127) Team Medina - Adam Vinatieri K

(128) Team Brody - Isaac Bruce WR

(129) Team Lulgjuraj - Amani Toomer WR

** (130) Team Engel - Jon Kitna QB

(131) Team Sutter - Brandon Jacobs RB

(132) Team DiPuccio - Mark Brunell QB

Time to lock down QB2 with Vick likely to miss a few. Don't recall Kitna's ADP, but I like his upside more than the others that were left (Brunell, Volek, McNair, etc.)

Round: 12

(133) Team DiPuccio - Jason Elam K

(134) Team Sutter - Giants D/ST D/ST

** (135) Team Engel - Philip Rivers QB

(136) Team Lulgjuraj - Billy Volek QB

(137) Team Brody - Najeh Davenport RB

(138) Team Medina - Reggie Brown WR

(139) Team Yuen - David Akers K

(140) Team Blyth - Chris Perry RB

(141) Team ashman - Jeff Wilkins K

(142) Team H. - Duce Staley RB

(143) Team Keech - Jerious Norwood RB

(144) Team Heisler - Cedric Houston RB

Flyer pick. Waited on QB until round 7 (Vick), and then 11 and 12. SD offense has been great and Phillips may step right in and continue. With Gates and LT, he has weapons. If he busts, off to the waiver wire. If he or Kitna boom, I am in good shape.

Round: 13

(145) Team Heisler - Antonio Bryant WR

(146) Team Keech - David Carr QB

(147) Team H. - Keyshawn Johnson WR

(148) Team ashman - Ryan Moats RB

(149) Team Blyth - Jaguars D/ST D/ST

(150) Team Yuen - John Kasay K

(151) Team Medina - Ravens D/ST D/ST

(152) Team Brody - Eric Moulds WR

(153) Team Lulgjuraj - Buccaneers D/ST D/ST

** (154) Team Engel - Michael Clayton WR

(155) Team Sutter - Ciatrick Fason RB

(156) Team DiPuccio - Brad Johnson QB

Kind of pissed that I slept on Bryant this long. I think he could have a great season. I might have been able to get Bryant in 12, and then Phillips in 13 but I wasn't thinking clearly. The consolation prize is Clayton who I think has a decent shot at rebounding this year.

Round: 14

(157) Team DiPuccio - Mike Vanderjagt K

(158) Team Sutter - Bengals D/ST D/ST

** (159) Team Engel - Cowboys D/ST D/ST

(160) Team Lulgjuraj - Jay Feely K

(161) Team Brody - Steve McNair QB

(162) Team Medina - Braylon Edwards WR

(163) Team Yuen - Jeff Reed K

(164) Team Blyth - Travis Henry RB

(165) Team ashman - Eagles D/ST D/ST

(166) Team H. - Kevin Curtis WR

(167) Team Keech - Dolphins D/ST D/ST

(168) Team Heisler - Corey Bradford WR

Cowboys, Falcons, Redksins, Eagles were all possibilities. Would have liked the Bengals but they went one spot higher.

Round: 15

(169) Team Heisler - Chad Pennington QB

(170) Team Keech - Kellen Winslow TE

(171) Team H. - Lawrence Tynes K

(172) Team ashman - Cedrick Wilson WR

(173) Team Blyth - Mark Clayton WR

(174) Team Yuen - Robert Ferguson WR

(175) Team Medina - Chris Simms QB

(176) Team Brody - Ryan Longwell K

(177) Team Lulgjuraj - Ben Troupe TE

** (178) Team Engel - Falcons D/ST D/ST

(179) Team Sutter - Verron Haynes RB

(180) Team DiPuccio - Brian Calhoun RB

Came back with Falcons. Great sleeper D if they can get a big NT to help against the run. Abraham is going to be a terror at RDE and Hall could really elevate this unit. Keep in mind that Rossum was dinged up last year too, and their ST could be in for a nice reversal back to 04 levels.

Round: 16

(181) Team DiPuccio - Broncos D/ST D/ST

(182) Team Sutter - Josh Brown K

** (183) Team Engel - Matt Stover K

(184) Team Lulgjuraj - Ernest Wilford WR

(185) Team Brody - Hank Baskett WR

(186) Team Medina - Dallas Clark TE

(187) Team Yuen - Ben Watson TE

(188) Team Blyth - Michael Pittman RB

(189) Team ashman - Roscoe Parrish WR

(190) Team H. - Redskins D/ST D/ST

(191) Team Keech - Olindo Mare K

(192) Team Heisler - Matt Leinart QB

Kicker. Yawn.

Thoughts?

 

[ThePassion]

QB Jake Plummer DEN 9.10 4

QB Brett Favre GBP 11.10 6

RB Rudi Johnson CIN 1.10 5

RB Willie Parker PIT 3.10 4

RB Reggie Bush NOS 4.01 7

RB Warrick Dunn ATL 6.01 5

RB Mewelde Moore MIN 12.01 6

WR Terrell Owens DAL 2.01 3

WR Javon Walker DEN 5.10 4

WR Lee Evans BUF 8.01 8

WR Laveranues Coles NYJ 10.01 9

WR Eric Moulds HOU 13.10 5

TE Jason Witten DAL 7.10 3

TE Dallas Clark IND 14.01 6

QB Trent Green KCC 8.01 3

QB Brett Favre GBP 13.10 6

QB Byron Leftwich JAC 14.01 6

RB Kevin Jones DET 3.10 8

RB Willie Parker PIT 4.01 4

RB Ahman Green GBP 9.10 6

RB Dominic Rhodes IND 10.01 6

RB Marion III Barber DAL 11.10 3

RB Sam Gado GBP 12.01 6

WR Terrell Owens DAL 1.10 3

WR Chad Johnson CIN 2.01 5

WR Javon Walker DEN 6.01 4

WR Michael Clayton TBB 7.10 4

TE Tony Gonzalez KCC 5.10 3

* As you can see I tried a WR/RB and then a WR/WR. You can get a feel for what type of guys are around there, obviously if you have a preference for a Ronnie Brown over Rudi J you can still get the idea...

I prefer the top team, however that has me grabbing Reggie Bush who I thought was the key to an awesome draft at this spot, no longer possible to grab him there, he will be gone now especially after he plays a few more preseason games.... that sorta upsets me haha.

I think if you go WR/WR, then you are going RB with 3 of your 4 next picks.

If you go RB/WR you def have a lot more flexibility.

I gotta give it a try going RB/RB....

 

[ThePassion]

Oh, and any chance Portis falls to 10?

 

[CrossEyed]

I drafted 10th in a 12 team PPR league on Saturday. Got Jordan and Westbrook.

 

[Blackjacks]

Oh, and any chance Portis falls to 10?

please

 

[gruecd]

I'm really liking this mock draft so far (through 8 rounds):

QB: Donovan McNabb 5.10

RB: Ronnie Brown 1.10

RB: Reggie Bush 3.10

RB: DeShaun Foster 6.01

RB: DeAngelo Williams 7.10

WR: Steve Smith 2.01

WR: Donald Driver 4.01

WR: Reggie Brown 8.01

I agree with ThePassion about getting Bush at the 3/4 turn; I think it's key to awesome draft at the 10 spot. I think McNabb is a top-3 QB this year, and he was the 7th QB off the board at 5.10 (behind the Mannings, Palmer, Hass, Brady, and Bulger). Getting his #1 WR with the 71st pick was the icing on the cake.

I also love the Carolina RB tandem of Foster and Williams with my 6th- and 7th-round picks. As long as it's clear who'll be carrying the load this week, I've got another top-10 back on my hands. I also like the combinations of Dillon/Maroney and Rhodes/Addai. There's actually a separate thread by Macdaddy about this exact topic that you can read here.

 

[ThePassion]

I agree with ThePassion about getting Bush at the 3/4 turn; I think it's key to awesome draft at the 10 spot.

I just don't think we can get Bush there anymore

 

[gruecd]

I agree with ThePassion about getting Bush at the 3/4 turn; I think it's key to awesome draft at the 10 spot.

I just don't think we can get Bush there anymore

I agree, which begs the question, do you like him enough to take him at #10-11?Probably the one bad thing about drafting at the turn is that you're sometimes forced to reach if there's a specific player you really want, because you don't know for sure if he'll be there 19 picks later.I was sure that RB/WR was the way to go (and then hopefully getting Bush at 3.10), but now I'm having second thoughts. Would it make sense to take Bush along with Rudi/Ronnie/Cadillac/Edge at #10-11, then grab a couple of 2nd- or 3rd-tier WRs (Chambers, DJax, Driver, Wayne, etc.) at #30-31?Would you rather have.....RB1 Ronnie BrownRB2 Reggie BushWR1 Chris ChambersWR2 Darrell Jacksonor RB1 Ronnie BrownRB2 Kevin Jones, Willie Parker, etc.WR1 Steve SmithWR2 Chris ChambersCurious to hear people's feedback....

 

[gruecd]

BUMP (for other 10-spotters) for fear of falling off page 2....

 

[ThePassion]

haha tough question.... really depends on what he does rest of way through preseason. bush is so much sexier then the other guys you could draft at Rb but that doesnt really mean its the way to go.

Rudi/Ronnie with Chambers/Djax is sorta what I was planning on going with (rb/rb with first two).

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I drafted 10th in a 12 team PPR league on Saturday. Got Jordan and Westbrook.

Give me the rest, will ya?!

 

[AcerFC]

I have to say that I will not take R Bush with my 15th pick but I do like the Brown/Bush/Chambers/Jax better then having to depend on Jones or Parker. Smith is nice but it would only be worth it in a ppr league with bonuses for longer TDs. While Smith is good, a tier 2 RB would be better with the 11th or 15th pick

Of course it is all subjective

 

[BigTex]

I agree with ThePassion about getting Bush at the 3/4 turn; I think it's key to awesome draft at the 10 spot.

I just don't think we can get Bush there anymore

I agree, which begs the question, do you like him enough to take him at #10-11?Probably the one bad thing about drafting at the turn is that you're sometimes forced to reach if there's a specific player you really want, because you don't know for sure if he'll be there 19 picks later.I was sure that RB/WR was the way to go (and then hopefully getting Bush at 3.10), but now I'm having second thoughts. Would it make sense to take Bush along with Rudi/Ronnie/Cadillac/Edge at #10-11, then grab a couple of 2nd- or 3rd-tier WRs (Chambers, DJax, Driver, Wayne, etc.) at #30-31?Would you rather have.....RB1 Ronnie BrownRB2 Reggie BushWR1 Chris ChambersWR2 Darrell Jacksonor RB1 Ronnie BrownRB2 Kevin Jones, Willie Parker, etc.WR1 Steve SmithWR2 Chris ChambersCurious to hear people's feedback....

I'd be surprised if Ronnie actually fell. I also thought I'd get him but he's going before his ADP and Mocks.

 

[BigTex]

I drafted 10th in a 12 team PPR league on Saturday. Got Jordan and Westbrook.

I got Jordan also, I wander why he's falling so far down against his ADP, Rankings, and Mocks.

 

[AcerFC]

I drafted 10th in a 12 team PPR league on Saturday. Got Jordan and Westbrook.

I got Jordan also, I wander why he's falling so far down against his ADP, Rankings, and Mocks.

Probably because his catches will be down and he is not on a very good team. I like him but I think thats why he is falling a bit

 

[gruecd]

Smith is nice but it would only be worth it in a ppr league with bonuses for longer TDs. While Smith is good, a tier 2 RB would be better with the 11th or 15th pick.

No PPR, but we do have some bonuses for longer TDs: 1-point bonus for TDs 25-49 yards, 2-point bonus for TDs 50-74 yards, and 3-point bonus for TDs 75+ yards.

 

[einstein2u]

you guys are right...bush will not be there at the 3/4 turn.....but he does have questions. duece? being a rookie? touches?

playing it safe....RB/WR is the way to go....if you like risk and you really want reggie....you have to go RB/Bush....we won't be there when we pick again.....

 

[CrossEyed]

I drafted 10th in a 12 team PPR league on Saturday. Got Jordan and Westbrook.

Give me the rest, will ya?!

B. LeftwichJ. Kitna L. JordanB. WestbrookK. JonesC. TaylorC. Perry D. MasonE. KennisonM. MuhammadR. WhiteT. Williamson A. Gates J. Elam Dolphins

 

[ThePassion]

Haven't done any real drafts yet but have played around with a few more mocks... and I'm flip floppin more then John Kerry right now.

I am almost back on board with the WR/WR bandwagon.

Chad J and Larry Fitzy... then grab Reggie Wayne and a RB at the 3/4 turn. My goal is to grab a Warrick Dunn at that spot....

So then you are set at WR.... I'm one that won't draft a QB until late so I can focus my next 3 or 4 picks on RB's with lots of upside and just hope they work out.

Maroney/Dillon/Ahman types.... I must also note that I have Julius Jones as my keeper which plays a bit into this scenario, however I honestly am trying to draft without counting on him for much more then a 3rd rb.

So that could look like

Dunn

Maroney or Mike Bell or Ahman or Lendale (these sorts of guys, plan on having a few of them and finding a rb to start)

Julius * (my keeper)

Chad

Fitzy

Wayne

Thoughts?

I guess do you like

Dunn/Chad J/Fitzy/Wayne or Rudi/Ronnie/Wayne/Djax

 

[gruecd]

Had my draft today for my fairly competitive 10-team local league (no PPR). Here goes:

QB: Donovan McNabb, PHI/9 (6.01)

QB: Michael Vick, ATL/5 (12.01)

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, PIT/4 (13.10)

RB: Cadillac Williams, TB/4 (1.10)

RB: Reggie Bush, NO/7 (2.01)

RB: DeShaun Foster, CAR/9 (5.03 via trade)

RB: Dominic Rhodes, IND/6 (9.03 via trade)

RB: Michael Turner, SD/3 (16.01)

WR: Donald Driver, GB/6 (3.10)

WR: Plaxico Burress, NYG/4 (4.01)

WR: Matt Jones, JAC/6 (7.10)

WR: Jeremy Shockey, NYG/4 (9.10)

WR: Antonio Bryant, SF/7 (11.10)

WR: Ben Watson, NE/6 (14.01)

K: John Kasay, CAR/9 (15.10)

D/ST: Carolina Panthers, CAR/9 (10.01)

Thrilled to get a potential top-3 QB (McNabb) in the 6th round. Grabbed Vick (not sure why) and Big Ben for insurance.

I admit that Bush was a reach at 2.01, but I love his upside, and there's no way he would've lasted until 3.10 (as confirmed by my leaguemates). Besides, I like my depth at RB, with Foster (who I traded up to get) and Rhodes both potential top-15 RBs, IMHO.

At WR, I like the combination of consistency with Donald Driver and to a lesser degree, Shockey, along with the breakout potential of Plax and Matt Jones. I think Bryant could put up big numbers in garbage time in SF, and I honestly believe that Watson is the Patriots' leading receiving this year.

Only carried one kicker and one D/ST, since Carolina doesn't have its bye until Week 9, at which time I'll hit the waiver wire.

Feel free to hit me with any questions about the flow of the draft.

 

[ThePassion]

Ok now I am wondering what happens if Cport falls here... good possibility.

I am expecting Cadillac/Lamont/Bwest/Edge to probably be there as well as Cport.

None of those Rb's really thrill me, I'd rather go Steve Smith, Chad J at that point.

But can I pass up on Cport?

Cport/Edge ?

Have people been seeing Cport at 10 and are you passing him up? Could be a huge steal if he works out. Might as well go Reggie Bush and Cport and just roll the dice!

 

[BigTex]

Ok now I am wondering what happens if Cport falls here... good possibility. I am expecting Cadillac/Lamont/Bwest/Edge to probably be there as well as Cport.None of those Rb's really thrill me, I'd rather go Steve Smith, Chad J at that point.But can I pass up on Cport? Cport/Edge ?Have people been seeing Cport at 10 and are you passing him up? Could be a huge steal if he works out. Might as well go Reggie Bush and Cport and just roll the dice!

I doubt it Cport falls that far. I've seen him fall to the eight spot though. Your expectation of Caddy/Lamont/Westbroo are probably dead on, I wouldn't expect Edge to be there though. I've posted the results of a draft I had a few weeks ago but looks like the mods deleted it.

 

[ThePassion]

I just feel better about having Chad J and Steve Smith then having Ronnie Brown and Caddilac or Lamont.

I did a mock draft where I went Chad/Steve/Santana/Wayne haha.... it would be sweet to start those 4 but then I was left with Julius (keeper) and Maroney/Deangelo/Barlow

So I assume you would think CPort is a steal at 10 then?

 

[BigTex]

I just feel better about having Chad J and Steve Smith then having Ronnie Brown and Caddilac or Lamont.

I did a mock draft where I went Chad/Steve/Santana/Wayne haha.... it would be sweet to start those 4 but then I was left with Julius (keeper) and Maroney/Deangelo/Barlow

So I assume you would think CPort is a steal at 10 then?

Without a doubt.

 

[ThePassion]

I guess this changes now with the TJ Duckett trade haha.

So now I gotta expect Ronnie and Edge to be picked top 10. If one of them falls I think you gotta pick em. Figure with Cport out these 8 have to go before the 10 spot:

LJ/LT/SA/TB/PM/RJ/RB/EJ

Not sure who goes 9 there but again stuck with Cadillac or Lamont or Bwest... yuck.

I think I hate the pick more now haha. I am being forced to pick Wr/Wr

Reggie Bush here I come

 

[BigTex]

I guess this changes now with the TJ Duckett trade haha.So now I gotta expect Ronnie and Edge to be picked top 10. If one of them falls I think you gotta pick em. Figure with Cport out these 8 have to go before the 10 spot:LJ/LT/SA/TB/PM/RJ/RB/EJNot sure who goes 9 there but again stuck with Cadillac or Lamont or Bwest... yuck.I think I hate the pick more now haha. I am being forced to pick Wr/Wr

Lamont/WR or Cadillac/WR would prolly be your best option or even Lamont/Caddy since all the other RB are going down pretty fast and others have question marks around them. I'd personally go Lamont/Caddy without any hesitation. With the WR core being deep this would be my course of action.

 

[bbuster]

I've already studied the freaking 12th in a 12 and it's not the same.It's obvious to me that you did not read my initial post. Thanks for the advice.

OK - I'll bite.It is SLIGHTLY different - it is MORE important to slough off of QB since there will be even MORE QBs available late. Forget QB till the 7th/8th turn.You have a better shot at Antonio Gates as the TE1 at the 3.10 pick - if he's there grab him.Otherwise, it is exactly the same strategy - try to maximize value by taking two of the same position at each turn - your back to back picks means you lose the most talent between your picks. You also want to hedge against one of your picks at the 1/2 turn not working out, so taking two RBs at the 1/2 turn is the best protection for your RB position.If you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn, make your 3/4 turn RB/RB. Look to draft some current RBBC/handcuff situaitons that are probably going to be a primary RB by opening day - Rhodes/Addai, McAllister/Bush, Bell/Dayne, Foster/Williams, Benson/TJones come to mind. That should be sufficient to fill your RB2 spot if you go RB/WR at the 1/2 turn. Regardless, with only 30 players gone, you either have a lot of stud WRs left or there are starting RBs like Warrick Dunn available.Stud-WR is never advisable if you are at the end in a non-PPR league. It is probably not advisable this year even in a PPR league under 14 teams. There are simply too many decent WR options that you don't gain a real advantage, and you fall way back at RB. In larger leagues, you have to work your advantage wherever you can find it, so stud WR can work.All these points were made in the 12th in a 12 thread as part of the strategy of working from the end.As for specific players, see my post above where I tell you what I got from the 10-hole in a 12-team league. I think you could get similar players at the turn in a 10 team league.On another point, at your turn in the 3rd/4th, there are a TON of decent RB options available according to antsports. The DD must show more than Gado available at RB, or else there MUST BE a ton of awesome WRs left. In every draft I have been involved in so far - all in TWELVE team leagues - at least Warrick Dunn, Tatum Bell and Reggie Bush was available at the 3/4 turn. So, you are doing something wrong if the DD tells you the best RB available at the 3/4 turn in a 10-team league is Gadnly 30 players off the board and Gado's your best RB? If that's the case, then there are almost all of the top-8 WRs available, or else Peyton Manning and all the TEs are still on the board. My advice in a 10-team league is to grab 2 RBs at the 1/2 turn and look for two top-8 WRs (or a top-8 WR and Antonio Gates) at the 3/4 turn.Is that a better response?

Good stuff here Marc. I'm not sure what the deal is with the Draft Dominator. The league that I have plugged in is from phenoms. 1pt 20 pass 1pt 10 rush with bonus for 300+pass and 100+rush.PPR for WR/TE .5PPR for RB. Passing TD's are 5pts all others are 6.(these are the important ones)Anyway, I've been seeing things come up quite a bit different on DD than in actual drafts. DD is throwing out guys like P. Manning and Gates with the 5th overall pick. Massive runs on WR's. I've used DD for so many mocks that I've lost count.(several from every draft position) I try to pick like I think the draft will go for at least the first two or three rounds and then let the DD take over for the other teams. After the first few rounds, it seems to shake out a little closer to what actual drafts are like.

 

[bizarro]

Just wanted to note that I was in the 10 spot of a 10 team redraft and pulled the trigger on WR/WR. Scoring is a little different than FBG standard though - 1 pt for 15 rush yds, 1 pt for 20 rec yds no PPR, and passing TD worth 6 pts, and 5 point bonus for all TD over 50yds. 15 man rosters with 6 bench spots limits everyones ability to hold more than 2 or 3 bench RB. In all 45 RB were taken in the draft.

Took CJ and S. Smith (WR1 & WR2) at 1.10 & 2.1.

Top RB on the board at this point were:

Caddilac, Edge, McGahee, L.Jordan, R.Bush, Westbrook, etc.

For all of these I saw enough downside to worry me - not going to go into detail on that. Was hoping that R.Brown, SJax, Portis, or Rudi would fall to me but it didn't happen, so I took who i interpreted to be best on the board at that moment in CJ and Smith.

I was able to weather the expected run at RB and with draft pos 30 and 31 was able to pick decent RB options with Foster (RB20) and Droghnes (RB21).

For draft pos 50 was able to steal Dunn (RB24) (before Duckett trade)

I ended up with: Foster, Droughns, Dunn, TBell, TJones (who went much later than Benson). Ok, so a lot of these guys are fighting for their jobs, so I'm obviously screwed if M.Bell, Benson, and D.Williams end up being the starters here, but this is the risk that you take. If thinks go my way, I could also have two stud recievers and a stable of 5 RB with starting gigs to play based off of who has favorable matchups. All told I'm pleased with my chances here.

Just my .02 on this thread. Never understood why I'd take a guy like Bush who's not guaranteed to be the man this year as at 1.10 or 2.1 - sure, his upside is great but he might end up putting up Chris Henry 2005 numbers. Yikes.

QB: B Favre, T Green

RB: T Jones, R Droughns, T Bell, W Dunn, D Foster

WR: N Burleson, M Jones, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, C Johnson, S Smith

TE: B Watson

K: J Elam

D: D Ravens

 

[ThePassion]

I think I am leaning towards Wr/Wr if none of those guys are there b/c I do have Julius Jones as a keeper... now i am aware I should not depend on Julius for anything but I do already have one of those Rb's that could work out for me, where as in a clean redraft the double WR is a little more of a reach IMO.

I think you did pretty well with that draft grabbing Dunn and Droughns, but I don't see them making it to me in my draft, espec after the TJ trade

 

[ThePassion]

How about trading out of the 10 spot???

I'd love to do it but not sure what to even propose to do so?

Get rid of 1 of my first two picks in return for someone else's 2nd round pick? Look to move up somewhere else?

Wonder what my first two picks could get me?

I really wouldn't mind moving down to end of 2nd round early 3rd round.