GoBirds
Footballguy
Exactly, and he has exponentially more hits than misses. The bashing is a joke. Hundreds of businesses.....4 bankruptcies? I know good people that lost their only one.
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The Inauguration (1 Viewer)
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snitwitch
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Because some dude on a message board with an extreme liberal bias told you that?
Use common sense.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
It appears that we're being asked by Trump supporters to ignore the lying, pettiness and outright bull #### because he has some mysterious superpower to obtain wonderful results for the country but that just isn't gonna happen. There is no plan. There never was any plan.
lol that's the first time you'd heard that? Not me. Educate yourself.Because some dude on a message board with an extreme liberal bias told you that?
Use common sense.
Koya
Footballguy
Have you actually researched his history? It's quite public, and very clear. And if you think this guy knows how to properly run a SUSTAINABLY profitable business then I'd suggest the idea is laughable with the wealth of evidence we have to the contrary.
If Trump learned anything, and I give him the credit that I believe he did, he realized he SUCKED at traditional deal making and business but realized his force of personality could beget far more than smart business decisions.
and he parlayed that into the presidency.
Well played America.
Well, ####### played.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Imo...this is the plan.
Political jazz...freeform baby!
DJT on twitter = Coltrane on the sax.
Where will it go? No one knows.
MikeIke
Footballguy
Most of those viewers were hoping to see the earthquakes, lightening, fire and brimstone, and the Four Horsemen live instead of catching it on YouTube.
Koya
Footballguy
#### YOU AND A POX UPON YOUR HOUSE.
Abe Vigoda = definition of good people; antitrump.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
What an odd response.Because some dude on a message board with an extreme liberal bias told you that?
Use common sense.
Koya
Footballguy
So you have no knowledge nor understanding of Trumps business endeavours (err... very public failures that true pros laugh at in the industry)?Because some dude on a message board with an extreme liberal bias told you that?
Use common sense.
Use common sense.
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Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
It is weird to show only one shot of the crowd size. Surely there are more pictures?
http://ijr.com/2017/01/783445-trump-vs-obama-inauguration-here-are-the-real-photos-you-decide/
http://ijr.com/2017/01/783445-trump-vs-obama-inauguration-here-are-the-real-photos-you-decide/
Card Trader
Footballguy
Is this like the 8 pager I saw explaining away Trump's mocking of the disabled reporter?
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Looks pretty similar to me. But didn't they say it was the most watched, not just most watched in person? Then one would have to include tv ratings, live-streaming, etc. I don't honestly remember the claim.
And who really cares when it comes down to it?
Riversco
Footballguy
The fundamental driver of the Trump era is that only 15% of republicans trust the mainstream media. That's a total collapse from where it used traditionally be over 50%. Essentially, in modern America, the media has totally lost half of the country and cannot reach them any longer. Even if the democrats stop / defeat Trump, they are unlikely to ever win over that base, so that base will just rotate to someone else similar to Trump.
If democrats want to get back to where they were, they need to rebuild trust.
Did you read this before posting?
From that angle, it's clear that last Friday's inauguration may not have been the most attended of all time, but other pictures from the day also show that there was still a good amount of people who got up early on a wet and windy day to greet their new president.
So Trump may not have had quite the crowd that Obama had in 2009, but did anyone expect him to? Trump only received 4% of the vote in DC, 33.9% of the vote in Maryland, and 44.43% of the vote in Virginia. Without much local support, it's easy to explain the disparity in attendance.
God bless the true believers, I suppose. "You guys have all the facts wrong!!! The real facts show that you are correct!! Err...wait, wat????"
Nobody cares about that (except Teflon Don). Stating the obvious: they care about the pathological need to "win" and the willingness to blatantly lie and spin over easily rebutted "facts".
And it goes without saying...the potential consequences of creating alternate realities, threats to a free press, yada, yada, yada
all legitimate worries with this dysfunctional personality
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Conservative distrust of the media doesn't mean the MSM should start ignoring the truth about trump simply to get conservative viewers. If they don't see reality that doesn't mean you start misreporting reality.
Dickies
Footballguy
The same people that don't trust the media are the ones that don't trust climate scientists, think universities exist to brainwash young adults, and believe whatever spews out of Limbaugh's mouth. Conservative media probably spends 50% of its time discrediting everything else that does not fall in line with its narrow worldview
GoBirds
Footballguy
While he's no Community Planner, every aspect of his businesses requires negotiation skills. His net worth is in the billions. Again, try common sense.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
His biggest deal is a fraction of almost all agencies' budgets. Really, a deal or contract worth his lifetime net worth is not much.
Within his own organization he has never had to seek anyone's approval for anything. In government at a minimum he has to get approval of one body with 435 people, another with 100. He has never so much as had a board of directors.
He has never negotiated with an international body or considered the cost of decisions in lives.
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Rohn Jambo
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[scooter]
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Did you see the pictures?
Did you read this before posting?
From that angle, it's clear that last Friday's inauguration may not have been the most attended of all time, but other pictures from the day also show that there was still a good amount of people who got up early on a wet and windy day to greet their new president.
So Trump may not have had quite the crowd that Obama had in 2009, but did anyone expect him to? Trump only received 4% of the vote in DC, 33.9% of the vote in Maryland, and 44.43% of the vote in Virginia. Without much local support, it's easy to explain the disparity in attendance.
God bless the true believers, I suppose. "You guys have all the facts wrong!!! The real facts show that you are correct!! Err...wait, wat????"
I think 2009 should have been the largest turnout, having our countries 1st African American President was a monumental event. Unlike more old white dudes. Also the % vote by state is really far lower when you look at northern VA is more like the D.C.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Pic #1 is hilarious for so many reasons:
1. it's hosted by FoxNews.
2. it shows the CNN and CBS stages in the background.
2. the actual web address contains the phrase "fact check trump overstates crowd"
T J
Footballguy
You have your opinion, I have mine. i'm more than comfortable with my take. The left just doesn't get it.They genuinely do not want to accept that there are people, a lot of them, that do not view things the same and in fact, find people with opposing beliefs stupid and contemptible and not as enlightened. I find this mindset to be incredibly arrogant and while I think Trump is kind of an ##### as well, I voted for him and I LOVE that he's gotten under so many people's skin and do mean LOVE it. Cracks me up.
Of course I saw the pictures. But it sounds like the narrative is starting to shift - based on your post. Yesterday, the talking points were that this was the best attended inauguration ever - to now, "Well of course Obama had more..."
Which, of course is what the media originally reported - without ascribing any reason for the difference, just noting the difference. Turns out they were correct. Shocking.
GoBirds
Footballguy
It really is pathetic what the media is doing and they are getting the backlash they deserve. They went all in on defeating this guy at all costs and I don't see it getting fixed.
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Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
I do not disagree with those comments. I just want to see fair comparisons if the news covers this kind of trivia. We see false news tactics in Russia and China and is unaccepatable here.
Did you read this before posting?
From that angle, it's clear that last Friday's inauguration may not have been the most attended of all time, but other pictures from the day also show that there was still a good amount of people who got up early on a wet and windy day to greet their new president.
So Trump may not have had quite the crowd that Obama had in 2009, but did anyone expect him to? Trump only received 4% of the vote in DC, 33.9% of the vote in Maryland, and 44.43% of the vote in Virginia. Without much local support, it's easy to explain the disparity in attendance.
God bless the true believers, I suppose. "You guys have all the facts wrong!!! The real facts show that you are correct!! Err...wait, wat????"
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Or you could stop looking at photos and just watch the 7 hour time lapse that PBS produced. Trump's crowd is clearly significantly smaller than Obama 2009's.
GoBirds
Footballguy
There's no narrative change, the pictures they put out are garbage just to try to embarrass him. It's pathetic. As far as a headcount I've never cared, I would think 2008 was monumental for the reasons I stated.
Pic 2 that you posted above is about the most fair comparison that you are going to get between the two inaugurations. Basically the same shot at the same time.
There are no false new tactics here.
By every objective measure - more people attended Obama's first inauguration. Why
Shoot_Me_Now
Footballguy
Media: Here's two pictures taken from the same building just before noon during Obama's 09 inauguration and Trump's 17 inauguration.
Jambo: I want fair comparisons!
Jambo: I want fair comparisons!
Why are the pictures garbage? Have they been doctored, or photoshopped?
They depict what they depict. The camera does not lie....
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
My point is not who has the bigger crowd. It's like guessing how many marbles are in the jar. Some people are good at it but probably not Trump. I just don't like to see the media to misrepresent things because then we're no better than Russsian or China.Pic #1 is hilarious for so many reasons:
1. it's hosted by FoxNews.
2. it shows the CNN and CBS stages in the background.
2. the actual web address contains the phrase "fact check trump overstates crowd"
