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Awesome NB....not sure there's a better Fathers Day gift....oh, and RIP all at the same time.  We'll know when 4ish years are up when you start posting again.  You'll be missed :thumbup:   

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
So little Norville Junior is arriving tomorrow morning and I'm celebrating this as my first Fathers Day. We'll be coming home Thursday and I may not be posting much.

Thank you all for your thoughts, prayers, encouragement, advice and humor. I keep fluctuating between :towelwave:  and  :help:
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Wonderful news!  Enjoy the ride of your life.  

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
LOL actually no. When the Dr. called us back prior to my contribution he said "Ok Tricia" which is not her name "and Norville . . . " and we're like "Wait . . . it's Tanya and Norville" and he looks at all the pile of papers on his desk and goes "Oh here we go" and grabs another batch of papers "Yes Tanya and Norville, huh two Norvilles today. That's rare." and then proceeded to call her Tricia throughout our conversation while we corrected him every time.

So we go back out to the waiting room there's a black couple waiting there (I was going to say "Hey Norville" but resisted) and we walk out and she goes "I think we might have a black baby." and I'm "God I hope so they were good looking"
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lol

Completely missed this and had no clue this was happening until I saw you holding a baby yesterday.  Surprise!

Congrats Norville!!!

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
So little Norville Junior is arriving tomorrow morning and I'm celebrating this as my first Fathers Day. We'll be coming home Thursday and I may not be posting much.

Thank you all for your thoughts, prayers, encouragement, advice and humor. I keep fluctuating between :towelwave:  and  :help:
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I assume little NB is 1 month old now. Congrats buddy.

 
Got some pretty distressing news on our foster son's case.  We've had the little guy for over one year now and are the only parents he's known.  His biological parents haven't seen him for nearly two months and they see him maybe once per month for a few hours.  

Three weeks ago the case worker from the appropriate state agency tells everybody the state is going to move to sever the parents' rights and, if that's successful, move for us to adopt him.  In that same time period we closed on a house and the first thing we did was set up and decorate the kids' rooms. 

Two weeks ago the case is re-assigned to a brand new case worker.  That case worker calls a meeting yesterday to inform everybody that she intends to do the exact opposite and wants to have our foster son re-unified with his biological mother in the next few months.  We are obligated to help this transition and will do so. 

Huge gut punch to my wife and me.  I think this is probably worse than when we learned IVF was unsuccessful. This Christmas is going to be very difficult. 

 
damn, gb- so sorry about this news.

silver linings in there about what an amazing thing you've done for this young guy... but ####. 

any news on the other kid?

 
El Floppo said:
damn, gb- so sorry about this news.

silver linings in there about what an amazing thing you've done for this young guy... but ####. 

any news on the other kid?
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The current course of her case is very favorable to us, but it's not yet adjudicated so we're trying to not consider it a sure thing.  

Heck, three weeks ago my legal opinion would have been that, while our odds for both kids were good, our odds of being able to adopt would have been higher with our foster son.  Like many things in the law, nothing is certain even when an expert tells you it's incredibly close to a certainty.  

ETA: In short, the news is good for our foster daughter but there's no way we're jinxing it. 

 
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Bucky86 said:
:unsure:  

The sperm analysis thing is easy, right?

Wife is starting Clomid, but the doc wants me to do this.
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Years ago before my wife and I were attempting IUI and eventually 3 unsuccessful attempts of IVF, I went into a clinic for sperm analysis. Let’s just say it was an awkward little room with some magazines and optional videos. Sample was placed in a revolving little door in room and I left without seeing anyone. Thankfully I was able to do the deed at home for the IVF procedures. 

 
Bucky86 said:
:unsure:  

The sperm analysis thing is easy, right?

Wife is starting Clomid, but the doc wants me to do this.
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Wife was on Clomid for both ours.  We were worried about multiples.  The first time not so much but we thought we only wanted one child.  So had she been twins, we would have still been ok but a little worried.  Now once we decided on the second, we knew we weren't really wanting three but wanted to have a second.  I read through all the stats at the time and just thought the odds are at least with us.

 
Pro tip:  don’t use your phone to find assistance or inspiration during spank bank deposit.  During one of my sessions I did, and as I’m looking down at some Russian teen cinema, really getting into the moment, a phone call comes in and it’s my mother who has her picture attached to her contact info...nothing can turn that moment from pleasure to disturbed quicker than a pic of your mom, judging you most likely.

 
That one guy said:
Pro tip:  don’t use your phone to find assistance or inspiration during spank bank deposit.  During one of my sessions I did, and as I’m looking down at some Russian teen cinema, really getting into the moment, a phone call comes in and it’s my mother who has her picture attached to her contact info...nothing can turn that moment from pleasure to disturbed quicker than a pic of your mom, judging you most likely.
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:lmao:

was that the deposit that worked? Because that would be some scarring ####.

 
I just re-read this thread.... Laughed, cried and cheered throughout- all over again. 

Absolutely astonishing the disparate and varied rides we've all been on in here. I'm proud to be a part of this amazingly supportive ffa community that this thread is testament to.

Wishing all you ffa moms and dads the very best this holiday season, and nothing but joy, health and occasional sex in the new year. 

 
El Floppo said:
I just re-read this thread.... Laughed, cried and cheered throughout- all over again. 

Absolutely astonishing the disparate and varied rides we've all been on in here. I'm proud to be a part of this amazingly supportive ffa community that this thread is testament to.

Wishing all you ffa moms and dads the very best this holiday season, and nothing but joy, health and occasional sex in the new year. 
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:goodposting:

This thread will always be one of the best for me.  Though we are done having kids, it was really helpful for me to know others were going through the same thing.  It's quite astonishing how many people go through these kinds of things.

 
Bumping this thread. Going to have go through it.

My wife and I are both 39.  We have one son who just turned 3 -- my wife took clomid the last time around, which worked for us to get him.  We've been trying for #2 for a couple of years -- clomid again and some other stimulants -- with no luck.  Clinic finally told us that IVF was the only remaining option.

Started the IVF process yesterday.  They retrieved 4 eggs from my wife, and collected from me.  Update today was that three fertilized.  Sounds like it is a roulette wheel number-wise, and just have to hope those give something to work with.

 
Don Quixote said:
Bumping this thread. Going to have go through it.

My wife and I are both 39.  We have one son who just turned 3 -- my wife took clomid the last time around, which worked for us to get him.  We've been trying for #2 for a couple of years -- clomid again and some other stimulants -- with no luck.  Clinic finally told us that IVF was the only remaining option.

Started the IVF process yesterday.  They retrieved 4 eggs from my wife, and collected from me.  Update today was that three fertilized.  Sounds like it is a roulette wheel number-wise, and just have to hope those give something to work with.
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Bucky86 said:
Heading to a fertility specialist next month. Wife has been taking Clomid for a few months and no dice. Looking like we'll be doing IVF in the near future.
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was IUI discussed for either of you?

eta: and more importantly, see and share MT's post above with the ladies. AND best of luck to you both...with the bjs and the fertility.

 
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Bucky86 said:
Heading to a fertility specialist next month. Wife has been taking Clomid for a few months and no dice. Looking like we'll be doing IVF in the near future.
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They combined the clomid with some injections for a few rounds before recommending IVF.  So, they might try that for you first, depending on how aggressive they want be.

 
Bucky86 said:
Haven't sat down with the specialist yet. She's been doing the Clomid and the usual tests(HSG) through her regular OBGYN. She has PCOS so getting her to ovulate has been the issue.
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Don Quixote said:
No.  My numbers were good, and they thought it was mostly my wife's age combined with a condition that she has called PCOS. So, they did not think IUI would improve the odds that much.  
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fwiw- my wife was PCOS, and it turned out I was having sperm issues (monster-headed... which always makes me :lol:  ), plus we started late- she was 37 and 41 when the kids were born. IUI worked both times... #1 on the first shot, #2 after 3 or 4 rounds of it and IVF being our next step. 

 
Bucky86 said:
Haven't sat down with the specialist yet. She's been doing the Clomid and the usual tests(HSG) through her regular OBGYN. She has PCOS so getting her to ovulate has been the issue.
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I just posted about my wife's PCOS as well.  A side note to be aware of, PCOS is associated with low milk supply for breastfeeding.  No one told my wife or I this, despite them being aware of that condition -- and nothing that was even on our radar.  It was not until she met with a breastfeeding consultant to try to help with some issues, who told that breastfeeding just was not going to happen for her given the PCOS. ETA: I don't think a problem for everyone with PCOS, but just something to keep in mind.

 
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Bucky86 said:
:lol:  I already did a sperm test which showed no issues.

So, based on what we've read online it seems IUI would likely be done for insurance purposes mostly. 
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oh- right. our insurance didn't cover IVF, so we went all in on IUI until it was going to clearly not work. we gave ourselves a certain amount of tries- probalby linked to however many insurance would cover- but also so we didn't make ourselves ("ourselves" = "wife") crazy with endless ongoing treatments. 

obviously, I'd listen to your docs and insurance coverage more than floppo-guy from the netz.

eta: AND LOOK AT YOU AND YOUR SPERM

 
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El Floppo said:
Bucky86 said:
:lol:  I already did a sperm test which showed no issues.

So, based on what we've read online it seems IUI would likely be done for insurance purposes mostly. 
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oh- right. our insurance didn't cover IVF, so we went all in on IUI until it was going to clearly not work. we gave ourselves a certain amount of tries- probalby linked to however many insurance would cover- but also so we didn't make ourselves ("ourselves" = "wife") crazy with endless ongoing treatments. 

obviously, I'd listen to your docs and insurance coverage more than floppo-guy from the netz.

eta: AND LOOK AT YOU AND YOUR SPERM
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Our insurance would not have covered either IUI or IVF.  The doctor told us that, based on our numbers, IUI would only improve the odds by 5-10% or so; so, IUI seemed like a waste of money.  Decided to go in on IVF.  I'm not sure how many rounds will try.  We may see how far we get on this one, and decide if it's just throwing money down the drain to go again.

 
Bucky86 said:
We're fortunate to have pretty good insurance that covers IVF fertility treatments. Once we meet with the Dr. we'll have to verify with the insurance company if there are necessary "steps" to take before finally landing on IVF.

The wife has a 4 friends that all ended up doing IVF and none of them conceived via IUI. So she's pretty much mentally checked out of even trying that. Especially if the Dr. says it's unlikely to work in our situation.
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oh right, again... whatever the wife wants/needs here trumps anything else- even if irrational (not saying that's the case here... yet). she's the one getting poked, prodded and shot up, while stressing about every action and reaction... and ultimately- hopefully- carrying a bowling ball around in her gut before popping it out her hoohah. 

really glad you have the good insurance- best of luck with all of this.

 
Don Quixote said:
Our insurance would not have covered either IUI or IVF.  The doctor told us that, based on our numbers, IUI would only improve the odds by 5-10% or so; so, IUI seemed like a waste of money.  Decided to go in on IVF.  I'm not sure how many rounds will try.  We may see how far we get on this one, and decide if it's just throwing money down the drain to go again.
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I mentioned it just now, but definitely work out with your wife and doctor ahead of time exactly how many tries you'll make- so that part of the stress equation at least is resolved and doesn't have to be resolved or fretted over while she's going through it. my 2c.

 
Don Quixote said:
Bumping this thread. Going to have go through it.

My wife and I are both 39.  We have one son who just turned 3 -- my wife took clomid the last time around, which worked for us to get him.  We've been trying for #2 for a couple of years -- clomid again and some other stimulants -- with no luck.  Clinic finally told us that IVF was the only remaining option.

Started the IVF process yesterday.  They retrieved 4 eggs from my wife, and collected from me.  Update today was that three fertilized.  Sounds like it is a roulette wheel number-wise, and just have to hope those give something to work with.
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GLLLLLLLLLL

 
Don Quixote said:
Bumping this thread. Going to have go through it.

My wife and I are both 39.  We have one son who just turned 3 -- my wife took clomid the last time around, which worked for us to get him.  We've been trying for #2 for a couple of years -- clomid again and some other stimulants -- with no luck.  Clinic finally told us that IVF was the only remaining option.

Started the IVF process yesterday.  They retrieved 4 eggs from my wife, and collected from me.  Update today was that three fertilized.  Sounds like it is a roulette wheel number-wise, and just have to hope those give something to work with.
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Two of three made it to the blastocyst phase, but my wife texted me this morning that they both degenerated overnight. So, none made it to genetic testing.  My wife seems to be taking it hard.  She said just trying to keep it together through a meeting, and then may head home.  Going to have to decide where to go from here -- with apparently low quality and low quantity, I'm having my doubts about another run.

 
That sucks Don <_<

Prior to the egg collection had they given her the fertility drugs and all that stuff to stimulate the ovaries and produce more?  Seems like 4 eggs is pretty low a number.

 
The Commish said:
That sucks Don <_<

Prior to the egg collection had they given her the fertility drugs and all that stuff to stimulate the ovaries and produce more?  Seems like 4 eggs is pretty low a number.
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Yep - They gave her everything to the point where she had ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome symptoms.  A lot of dud follicles.  We were hoping for quality over quantity.

Maybe a chance we get lucky on a second go-around, but, with all of the costs out of pocket, may be tough to justify given the poor results (but I may have to see what my wife is thinking, as I guess it is a small price to pay so my wife does not hold it over my head forever).

 
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Don Quixote said:
Yep - They gave her everything to the point where she had ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome symptoms.  A lot of dud follicles.  We were hoping for quality over quantity.

Maybe a chance we get lucky on a second go-around, but, with all of the costs out of pocket, may be tough to justify given the poor results (but I may have to see what my wife is thinking, as I guess it is a small price to pay so my wife does not hold it over my head forever).
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I get it.  I know it's a hike, but there is an unbelievable place in Charlotte NC we used.....REACH.  They have plans you can choose from and if they are unsuccessful they refund most of your money.  I don't know if you guys are to that place or if it's that large a desire, but thought I'd throw it out there for you.  Expense can be insane and that creates stress and stress is one of the huge factors in success.

 
Bucky86 said:
We're fortunate to have pretty good insurance that covers IVF fertility treatments. Once we meet with the Dr. we'll have to verify with the insurance company if there are necessary "steps" to take before finally landing on IVF.

The wife has a 4 friends that all ended up doing IVF and none of them conceived via IUI. So she's pretty much mentally checked out of even trying that. Especially if the Dr. says it's unlikely to work in our situation.
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Whoa

 
Don Quixote said:
Yep - They gave her everything to the point where she had ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome symptoms.  A lot of dud follicles.  We were hoping for quality over quantity.

Maybe a chance we get lucky on a second go-around, but, with all of the costs out of pocket, may be tough to justify given the poor results (but I may have to see what my wife is thinking, as I guess it is a small price to pay so my wife does not hold it over my head forever).
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Apologies, just seeing this now.  So sorry things didn't work out this time around.  If you want to talk about the donor egg thing, or want to hear about the DC-area clinic we used, just let me know.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Apologies, just seeing this now.  So sorry things didn't work out this time around.  If you want to talk about the donor egg thing, or want to hear about the DC-area clinic we used, just let me know.
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Thanks.  Looks like we are going for Round 2 of IVF.  If it comes to it, our place gives a bit of a discount on a Round 3.  I'm a bit pessimistic and feels like throwing bad money after bad money, but I guess we'll go that far and  see what turns out.

 
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