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You clearly don't watch Oliver, because I don't see him as comparable to Shapiro. Oliver is funny in his delivery and seems to have a legitimately good team of writers and researchers.
Yeah okay. then maybe you can give me a list of everybody that switched parties.
Starting with Strom Thurmond, virtually the entire Deep South went from Democrat to Republican:
Just to be clear, so there's no misunderstanding, I don't watch either one of these people. I'm just going off the descriptions provided to me. When somebody says that Oliver "brutalizes" right-wingers, that sounds very Ben Shapiro like, only I guess with Shapiro it would be all-caps BRUTALIZES just to really convey how totally brutal his brutalizing is. But that's not really much of a difference IMO.
When right wing folks talk about brutalizing someone in a debate it’s different from when left wing folks do it.
Pandas are aggresive and sex crazedI don't mind Tucker
He covers topics many others don't and allows his guests to speak most of the time without always cutting them off. I don't think I've ever seen an entire episode of his but will check in sometimes to see what he is covering. That's more time than I give any of the others. Can't take Hannity for more than 10 seconds.
Again, give me names of people who switched parties. Like, literally people who declared they were switching. That article is just another, "Oh yeah, everything switched again when we found out we were on the wrong side of history. Yeah, that's the ticket."
Again, give me names of people who switched parties. Like, literally people who declared they were switching. That article is just another, "Oh yeah, everything switched again when we found out we were on the wrong side of history. Yeah, that's the ticket."
He has some viewpoints that don't always mesh well with Republican positions. He's been pretty anti-war, also he invited Bill DeBlasio on once to talk about automation and how it's damaging the lower end wage earners. For sure he takes a condescending tone on his show sometimes but that's pretty standard in today's opinion based shows.I don't mind Tucker
He covers topics many others don't and allows his guests to speak most of the time without always cutting them off. I don't think I've ever seen an entire episode of his but will check in sometimes to see what he is covering. That's more time than I give any of the others. Can't take Hannity for more than 10 seconds.
Jon Stewart to Tucker Carlson in 2004:
Yeah, I started to talk about that interview where he says basically the same thing but deleted that part. The fact that people would watch the daily show to find out what’s happening in the news just shows what a terrible job the mainstream media has done. Stewart was right then. The shout shows have proliferated.
You guys are the ones holding them to the same standard. I'm not. Oliver is a comedian - he'll do or say anything for a laugh and that means cherry-picking and outright fabrications.
Let's be clear here: if Oliver was spouting GOP talking points all day long you wouldn't be saying this. This is naked partisanship.
Like, a list of voters from 1963? Can we agree that the vast majority of voters in the south used to vote democrat and now republican, or is that up for debate somehow?
Carlson has no credibility.
If he was spewing right wing talking points his jokes would probably suck. Right wing satire is awful.
There were a lot of deep southern D's when Wallace ran for president in '72. I remember it was a pretty big deal when he won Michigan, then was shot in Maryland soon after in a assassination attempt.
Our family knew one of the troopers assigned to his detail right before his death. Apparently he was a nasty man to everyone. The guy didn't have one nice word to say about him.
The fact you don’t think Tucker is pure propaganda as well is telling and exposes your bias. His motivation is no different than Oliver’s. Ratings and feeding their respective bases their red meat.
IK: Give this segment a watch:
Some of them were named Jimbo. Others were named Hank. Still others were named Jesse or Lisa or Pam.
I can buy into Hank, Jesse, Lisa, maybe Pam...
Anybody who posts the names of tens of millions of voters whose ballots are supposed to be kept secret would get a timeout, including me. (Can you imagine the scrolling? It'd be longer than a Gordon Gekko post.)
Did you read MT's link about the southern strategy? This whole conversation is so odd. It is a very well known thing what happened to the racists of the south
The real controversy is that every time the Democrats have been on the wrong side of history they come up with the "We switched parties" excuse. Not buying it but the con worked well enough that now 95% of the very same people they were racist against now vote for them.
The Democrats were definitely the party of racism during Reconstruction and Jim Crow.
I definitely think the "we switched" argument in many instances is lazy, but I also think that most of the time democrats did "xyz" back in 270BC is pretty lazy too.
So how do you account for the south flipping from being a democrat stronghold to it becoming a republican one?
White southern racists switching from Democrat to Republican isn't even controversial. The fact that you're disputing it is bizarre.
Strom thurmond.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_party_switchers_in_the_United_States
This has been the new conservative talking point for the last year or so. It seems like the most prominent Southern Strategy truther is Dinesh D’Souza. He gets into twitter wars with history professors all the time where they show the folly of his arguments.Maurile Tremblay said:
