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Jurgen has every right to pick the team he picks. But "chemistry" is a weird justification. What "chemistry" did we see in the MNT in 2014? If Benny were not getting call ups while players like Mix and Corona and Danny Williams and even Jermaine Jones were playing well that would be one thing. But all too often our midfield has no chemistry. I give Jones credit for staying home in the last qualifying games, but before that his history partnering with Bradley was kind of disastrous. Similarly, Brooks may very well be the most talented CB in the US player pool, but he's been kind of a disaster at the international level because he's never had chemistry with a CB partner.

I get that some guys like Mix. I don't mind him as a bench option as an AM. As a deep lying mid, he's way off international standard. And you can't convince me that he has more chemistry with Bradley than Sacha, for instance, would have. Hey, if Jurgen wins, nobody questions his selections. If he doesn't, those selections are fair game.

 
JK responds to Benny

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But Klinsmann noted that Feilhaber's perspective is that of a player while his is that of a coach. He insisted that he continues to monitor the play of McCarty, Hedges, and Kljestan. But the U.S. manager noted that Feilhaber has had multiple opportunities.

"We had [Feilhaber] several times with us, and he was not able to make a mark," said Klinsmann in an exclusive interview. "Benny unfortunately was never able to step up to an international level with me. Whatever was before was before.

"We gave him the opportunity a couple of times in our environment and he was never able to put a stamp on the game. That's why he's not invited here, because he's not on my level, not consistent enough."

"We coaches over a longer period of time, we see how everybody performs, and we make up our own mind," said Klinsmann. "And then every player has to fit into what we are actually doing. So you can certainly argue about individual players. He just might not match what we are looking for, or how we want to play. Or how we put the pieces together.

"There are many different aspects to the game. There's the playing side, the chemistry side, it's how people match. What is the dynamic of the group, and so on. So many points come into the decision as to why some people are part of it then and why some people aren't part of it."
But Benny was playing the best soccer of his career last summer.
crap I mistakenly forgot to copy this part. Jk was asked about Benny's recent play, see below

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When it was pointed out that Feilhaber had an outstanding 2015 campaign, Klinsmann indicated that the player's success came mostly in the first half of the season, and that Kansas City manager Peter Vermes actually started Feilhaber on the bench in the last regular season game. But Klinsmann stressed that his broader point is that there are many factors that go into building a roster, and every coaching staff takes a different approach.

 
In the same responding to Benny interview JK said that Dempsey has not been removed from the program and will still be considered this year.

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During his media appearance, Kyle Beckerman indicated that this might be his last year as a soccer player as he is considering retirement from the sport after a 16 year career.

 
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Today's best news? Former #usmnt def & FC Dallas tech director Fernando Clavijo announces he is full remission in his battle with cancer

 
JK is working overtime to fix what he considers is complete misrepresentation of his opinion of MLS. I won't argue what he has said in the past because it was clearly biased against MLS.

However, I agree with everything he says in the article. I just hope he actually means it and is not doing this under pressure from Sunil.

Something has changed recently in his general public attitude. Two years ago he would have not given two ####s what Merrit Paulson said and now JK seeks him out to clear the air.

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http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/66/united-states/2016/01/21/19564692/jurgen-klinsmann-insists-he-is-a-big-fan-of-mls-not-an-enemy?ICID=HP_HN_1

CARSON, Calif. — If you have listened to recent comments about Jurgen Klinsmann, you would think he is Major League Soccer’s biggest enemy.

In recent weeks we have had an MLS owner (Portland’s Merritt Paulson) hammer the U.S. national team coach for being anti-MLS, and this week we had an MLS star (Benny Feilhaber) criticize Klinsmann for ignoring some of the league’s top players when it came time to select national team rosters.

When you add in the perception that Klinsmann tried steering up-and-coming U.S. international forward Jordan Morris away from MLS toward Europe, you start to see how Klinsmann might be looking like public enemy No. 1 for the North American league.

The German-born Klinsmann is aware of the perception, and he can only scratch his head at what he considers to be a completely false notion that he is working against MLS.

“There's a misconception, and that's just not right,” Klinsmann told Goal USA. “Our consistent message is that we try to get the players to their personal highest level. That phrase is a broken record. If you ask me, 'Should Michael [bradley] play for Manchester United,' I'll say yes, and I don't think anybody here would argue.

“I want them to know to chase your highest possible level,” he added. “This is always a consistent message. If your highest consistent level is MLS, I'm thrilled. I'm going to be there for you 24/7 to help you. Jordan is maybe a good example. I said, 'No matter what you decide, we are here to help you with every step. Obviously, you have to be the driver, you are your own boss, but every decision is fine.'"

Klinsmann went on to say "it's sad" that people think he's against MLS and pointed to his team selection for the 2014 World Cup as an example of how much he trusts the talent the league has to offer.

"Why did I take 13 players from MLS to Brazil?” Klinsmann asked. “Why did I come in almost four years ago saying everyone is on the same page, no matter if you're playing in Europe or Mexico or MLS? All of the players suddenly got the same messages, no matter where you're from. I brought players back in that haven't been in for a long time, and we continue to give that message.”

Klinsmann has drawn scrutiny in MLS circles for what was believed to be his attempt to steer Morris to Europe after Klinsmann and U.S. Under-23 coach Andi Herzog helped set up a trial with Bundesliga side Werder Bremen. Klinsmann insisted his efforts with Morris were about ensuring the former Stanford University star was able to see all his options.

“It hurts when people say I want every kid to go to Europe, because every kid is so different,” Klinsmann said. “If Jordan makes the decision to go to Bremen and he doesn’t feel ready for it, he will fall under the table three months from now. Whose benefit is that? Nobody’s. The kid is burned and maybe doesn't even find his way back up anymore.

“It's wrong that people think I push a player either way,” he continued. “That's when people don't really see our work and how we work. We haven't yet done a good enough job to explain all the time what the national team is about and what our work is and how we deal with players on all sorts of ends, meaning players from Mexico, the U.S., Europe or whatever.”

With Morris officially introduced by the Seattle Sounders, Klinsmann made it clear he has no problem with the 21-year-old choosing to stay home rather than start his pro career abroad.

“For every player, the step comes at a different time and (Morris) has to feel it is right,” Klinsmann said. “I felt I was mature enough to go to Italy at 23, 24, not before. I had offers, big offers, when I was 20, 21. Arsene Wenger at Monaco offered, at that time, 6.5 million to Stuttgart and I said I want to go. Monaco sounds like fun, Monte Carlo and stuff like that.

“My president came at Stuttgart and said, 'You're not going anywhere. You are not mature enough yet.' I looked at him like, 'Me? I'm not mature enough?' The same (with Morris). You have to take the tempo of that person.

“I just want to do what's best for the kid. So if the kid says, 'I badly want to go there,' and the club is OK with that, that's all cool with me as long as the player is 100 percent behind it."

As for criticisms aimed at him by the likes of Merritt Paulson, Klinsmann acknowledged having spoken to the Portland Timbers owner after Paulson was recently quoted in a podcast ripping Klinsmann for being anti-MLS.

"I don't think you're going to find a single MLS owner who's going to be an advocate for Jurgen Klinsmann,” Paulson told Soccer Made in Portland. “This is a guy who has got a clear agenda that's an anti-MLS agenda. He makes emotional decisions. Landon Donovan would be a case in point. There's very much an agenda to get people playing abroad and probably rewarding some people playing abroad who don't deserve to be playing.”

Klinsmann revealed that he spoke with Paulson after those comments to clear the air and try to explain to him what he is trying to do as U.S. coach. Klinsmann called the conversation a productive one that left Paulson feeling differently about his position on Klinsmann. Paulson confirmed to Goal USA that the two did have a good chat and that he appreciated Klinsmann’s willingness to engage.

“We talked at length. It was really a good talk,” Klinsmann said. “I said, ‘Merritt, because you do not know, you were, unfortunately, given the wrong information. You were fed the wrong input by the wrong people. Here are the facts and here's what we're doing.' He said, 'You caught me on the wrong foot.' It was good. If I had that chance with every owner of the league, I think they would think probably differently.”

Klinsmann’s relationship with MLS will continue to be a complicated one because of his natural desire to want the best American players to strive for the best and work toward trying to play in the world’s best leagues. It is a stance that every national team coach in the world has for his players, but one Klinsmann must carefully balance along with wanting to also help MLS grow.

Klinsmann fully acknowledges the unique complexity of his situation as U.S. coach, but he maintains the position that rather than being an enemy of MLS, he is one of the league’s leading advocates.

“We are the biggest fans of MLS because of the growth of the game here,” Klinsmann said. “I'm probably the biggest sales rep of MLS in Europe because I'm talking nonstop to coaches, to people, to fans, to journalists. With endless interviews that I do now, the comments that I make are for the development of MLS in Europe.

"I want this league where I live to grow on a tremendous speed with beautiful facilities now all over the place and tremendous owners.”

 
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NewlyRetired said:
In the Jordan Morris thread on BS, someone posted the link below.

The story follows the life of Preston Zimmerman who was a US Youth International and his choice to join a German team.

This is quite a good read and makes me wonder if Morris read this.

http://screamer.deadspin.com/the-making-and-unmaking-of-preston-zimmerman-american-1627362257
Cliffs notes?
*Player who gave up everything as a child to realize his dream

*Overcame a heart condition that slowed his progress as a teenager.

*Rose up the ranks to represent the US at the U17 WC

*Chose to go to Germany to play for Hamburg at 17

*Found life in Germany in the beginning awful. No friends, did not understand language, got yelled at time and again during drills because he could not understand what the coaches wanted

*Found everything about German soccer joyless. Every player was cut throat, looking out only for themselves and stepping on anyone in the way.

*Was shortly sold to a small Austrian team

*Did fairly well there but realized he needed to move to get a better situation for himself and this is where the story turns ugly

*Asking for a transfer at the same time the Austrian team wanted to sign him to an extended year deal. He was asked to leave the team but the team also refused to release his rights as punishment for asking for the transfer

*For almost an entire year he could not play while he spent time in courts trying to fight for his rights

*His low point was one during that year when he broke down crying in court realizing everything he gave up in his childhood to reach for a dream was going up in smoke

*He moved back to Germany where he joined Mainz where he played for the reserve team

*He then moved to a division 3 team in Germany and eventually retired after 2 years of play at 24 years old knowing he was done

*Over the years he made some friends and now has a serious GF so he has remained in Germany where he lives in a one bedroom apartment.

*As he returns to school he thinks back to the full ride he turned down from a great school like Duke and wonders where it all went wrong

 
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I think my favorite "American soccer fan" story of this week are all the people #####ing and moaning that Morris chose to play in MLS instead of Germany and are seriously lamenting that they have another "Landon Donovan" on their hands and not even realizing the pure irony in their statements.

The comments in the various ESPN articles are priceless. Even when someone asks them if they understood what they said they don't get it.

:)

 
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ok I am officially shuked. I have no idea what has caused JK to go on this crusade of "people in MLS don't understand me". He never gave a second thought to what anyone said and now he can't stop giving interviews about the topic.

Anyone have any guesses as to what is causing JK to be so vocal?

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Jurgen Klinsmann: MLS owners have 'misconception' about 'global picture'United States coach Jurgen Klinsmann says MLS club owners' "misconception" about his goals for the national team has led to the perception that he is at odds with the league.

Klinsmann and Major League Soccer have always had a frosty relationship, with tempers coming to a head in October 2014 as the U.S. coach suggested star players needed to prove themselves after returning to MLS.

MLS commissioner Don Garber called those remarks "detrimental," "wrong," and "personally infuriating," and said several MLS owners indicated their displeasure with Klinsmann.

But Klinsmann told ESPN FC this week that he would welcome the opportunity to sit down and explain his position.

"I think it's great if people have their opinion out there, that they express that opinion," Klinsmann said in a wide-ranging interview. "But I think before they express their opinion they should give me a call and ask what is really going on. Because a lot of people mention their thoughts without even knowing what is really going on.

"For example, there is the feeling out there that MLS owners are not really on board, but it's because I was never given the opportunity to speak in front of them and explain the technical side of what we're doing with the national teams.

"So there's maybe a misconception with some people because I was never given the opportunity to explain, this, this, and this. There are very few people that can explain to you different levels of leagues, different levels of environments, different levels of continents."

Klinsmann suggested MLS owners' limited perspective may be behind their differences.

"Our picture is the global picture," he said. "We need to know what England, Germany, and Spain are doing in Europe, and then Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay are doing in South America. But our benchmarks are internationally.

"So for a lot of people they define their world domestically, which is totally cool. They should think maybe a little bit more before saying things from the outside about the national team program."

Klinsmann also pointed to his inclusion of MLS players, who made up more than half the U.S. squad at the World Cup, as proof that he has players' best interests in mind, no matter where they play.

"We see a lot more than the result. We see the development of players at a specific point in time in their careers. Our job is to help them to build," Klinsmann said. "We never give up on players because they have a couple of bad months, a couple of bad games. We help them through those phases. No matter where they are in their club environments.

"That's another point with MLS. I always say, 'We are here for the players, to play at the highest level possible.' If that highest level is MLS, we are here to help. Why am I here at this camp? Why did I take 13 players from MLS to Brazil, and keep on helping, helping, helping?"

 
ok I am officially shuked. I have no idea what has caused JK to go on this crusade of "people in MLS don't understand me". He never gave a second thought to what anyone said and now he can't stop giving interviews about the topic.

Anyone have any guesses as to what is causing JK to be so vocal?
Do you not think he got a verbal thrashing after the Gold Cup last summer? Maybe Sunil, et al, told him to make nice w/ MLS and stop being an ### or he'd end up spending even more time on the Cali beach.

This is the only thing I can think of...

 
ok I am officially shuked. I have no idea what has caused JK to go on this crusade of "people in MLS don't understand me". He never gave a second thought to what anyone said and now he can't stop giving interviews about the topic.

Anyone have any guesses as to what is causing JK to be so vocal?
Do you not think he got a verbal thrashing after the Gold Cup last summer? Maybe Sunil, et al, told him to make nice w/ MLS and stop being an ### or he'd end up spending even more time on the Cali beach.

This is the only thing I can think of...
I certainly think he did get a stern talking to, but that was more of a "stop saying stupid things", which for the most part he has done since the Gold Cup as the rhetoric has really been only one sided since then (typically random people bashing JK).

I don't know if this batch of interviews is trying to cover up for Andi being "misquoted" and that "misquote" opened up a whole new barrel of problems.............?

But this latest burst of media out reach from JK feels different from your general gag order to me. I never got the impression that JK is trying to line up a long term job in the federation or with MLS and he has always given the impression that he could care less about what people think of him, so I can't quite put my finger on what is behind this..

I feel like this is more than simply Sunil saying "play nice".

 
Kyle Scott got a start for the Chelsea u18's today against Man United in the FA Youth Cup 4th round. He's been playing mostly with the U21's so far this season.

 
JK responds to Benny

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But Klinsmann noted that Feilhaber's perspective is that of a player while his is that of a coach. He insisted that he continues to monitor the play of McCarty, Hedges, and Kljestan. But the U.S. manager noted that Feilhaber has had multiple opportunities.



"We had [Feilhaber] several times with us, and he was not able to make a mark," said Klinsmann in an exclusive interview. "Benny unfortunately was never able to step up to an international level with me. Whatever was before was before.



"We gave him the opportunity a couple of times in our environment and he was never able to put a stamp on the game. That's why he's not invited here, because he's not on my level, not consistent enough."



"We coaches over a longer period of time, we see how everybody performs, and we make up our own mind," said Klinsmann. "And then every player has to fit into what we are actually doing. So you can certainly argue about individual players. He just might not match what we are looking for, or how we want to play. Or how we put the pieces together.



"There are many different aspects to the game. There's the playing side, the chemistry side, it's how people match. What is the dynamic of the group, and so on. So many points come into the decision as to why some people are part of it then and why some people aren't part of it."
All coaches in any sport should take note of what he is saying. I think this is where some ex players get into trouble. They look at it from both sides. As the manager (Gaffer-GM-Head Coach), you are looking at the whole puzzle, not just the pieces. Also chemistry and consistently are VERY important to managers yet Ibdont think players and fans realize just how much. Thanks for the posting.
Herb Brooks (RIP) would agree 100%. He left some pretty good players off the 1980 USA hockey squad (Tim Harrer), took heat for it and ended up winning gold.

 
I think my favorite "American soccer fan" story of this week are all the people #####ing and moaning that Morris chose to play in MLS instead of Germany and are seriously lamenting that they have another "Landon Donovan" on their hands and not even realizing the pure irony in their statements.

The comments in the various ESPN articles are priceless. Even when someone asks them if they understood what they said they don't get it.

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That is hilarious! :lmao: God forbid we might have another Landon in the pipeline.

 
I think my favorite "American soccer fan" story of this week are all the people #####ing and moaning that Morris chose to play in MLS instead of Germany and are seriously lamenting that they have another "Landon Donovan" on their hands and not even realizing the pure irony in their statements.

The comments in the various ESPN articles are priceless. Even when someone asks them if they understood what they said they don't get it.

:)
That is hilarious! :lmao: God forbid we might have another Landon in the pipeline.
What this team needs is fewer Landon Donovans and more Freddy Adus.

 
Some Jordan Morris contract info was leaked today.

3 years at $225k a year, all guaranteed

Bremen beat this offer with the caveat that if they got related, his contract would no longer be guaranteed.

Grant Wahl is reporting that Bremen actually offered the contract to Morris BEFORE he went to train with them.

 
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Lyndon Gooch, US youth international, has been loaned from Sunderland to Doncaster (third tier in English pyramid) and he got his first start yesterday with the new club.

 
Pulisic made the bench for Dortmund this weekend, no small accomplishment for a 17 year old American.

I am unsure if Dortmund has a ton of injuries or not, but from everything I have read, Pulisic really impressed the brass at Dortmund this winter.

 
Some CCV news - Jan Vertonghen left Saturday's game with a knee injury - no word on the severity yet. But, this should open the door for CCV to make the bench in a few league games. Carter-Vickers is not really any closer to seeing the field - Spurs have a back-up for Vertonghen, and if another injury hits, Dier would move back to CB. But, it should mean increased training with the first team, which is also good for his development.

 
Martinez was quoted as saying there is nothing going on between Colorado and Howard

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Everton manager Roberto Martinez said the club have received no contact from Major League Soccer side Colorado Rapids about a reported move for Tim Howard.

Last week, sources told ESPN FC's Jeff Carlisle that the Rapids are attempting to acquire the U.S. goalkeeper after being rebuffed in their attempt to land midfielder Alejandro Bedoya.

Reports on Monday suggested an agreement had been reached for a summer transfer but after his side's 2-1 home defeat by Swansea City, the Blues manager insisted that there was no approach.

"No at the moment there is nothing," Martinez said in the Liverpool Echo when asked whether he had received any enquiries for the 36-year-old. "There is nothing to comment on."

 
Here is a nice summary in the form of who is hot and who is not for US players, from ESPN

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The past two weeks has seen no shortage of intriguing developments concerning American players and no position has been more dramatic than goalkeeper. Brad Guzan's demotion at Aston Villa, Bill Hamid's latest injury and Tim Howard's possible move to MLS have resulted in less certainty than ever over the pecking order among national team keepers during the 2018 World Cup cycle.

There's intrigue up the field too, as a number of youngsters seem to be steadily climbing Jurgen Klinsmann's depth chart -- one or two could feature in Sunday's friendly against Iceland (3:45 p.m. ET, ESPN2/WatchESPN) or in another exhibition against Canada five days later -- while several veterans are struggling for various reasons in the early part of 2016.

Who's hot and not right now? Find out below.


Warming up

Kellyn Acosta, DF/MF, FC Dallas (MLS)

Why he's here: After a breakout season with FCD in 2015, the versatile 20-year-old has impressed at the ongoing U.S. camp in Carson, Calif.

What this means: Acosta, who played for the U.S. at the 2015 FIFA U-20 World Cup, could see his first senior team minutes during these upcoming friendlies. More importantly, he's established himself as a potential starter for the U-23s in March's decisive Olympic qualifying home-and-home versus Colombia.

Alejandro Bedoya, MF, Nantes (France)

Why he's here: Bedoya followed up his midweek goal off the bench in French Cup play by starting and scoring in Saturday's 2-2 Ligue 1 draw with Bordeaux.

What this means: The 28-year-old is quietly playing some of the best ball of his career. He'll occupy a huge role this cycle for the national team, which sorely missed him in last October's CONCACAF Cup loss to Mexico.

Clint Dempsey, FW, Seattle Sounders (MLS)

Why he's here: In a recent interview with ESPN, Klinsmann said the 32-year-old remains in his plans despite being left out of the two most recent U.S. rosters.

What this means: Dempsey, who'll turn 33 before the next set of World Cup qualifiers, remains the Americans' most dangerous scoring threat. If the Texan bags a bunch of goals early this MLS season, he'll be well-positioned to return for qualifying in March and for June's Copa America Centenario.

Luis Gil, MF, Queretaro (Mexico)

Why he's here: The Real Salt Lake product started his first game south of the border on Friday, going 90 minutes and notching an assist in a 3-0 win over Dorados de Sinaloa.

What this means: Like Acosta, the 22-year-old midfield technician is probably not a serious senior team candidate in the short term. But having a match-fit, in-form Gil would be a huge boost for the U-23s against Colombia.

Christian Pulisic, MF, Borussia Dortmund (Germany)

Why he's here: After impressing at Dortmund's winter training camp, the 17-year-old cracked the matchday 18 for Saturday's 3-1 Bundesliga victory against Fabian Johnson's Borussia Monchengladbach. On Sunday, he scored in a friendly versus second-tier Union Berlin.

What this means: No American's stock has climbed higher than that of Pulisic in recent weeks. If the Pennsylvania native starts seeing first-team playing time in the second half of the German season, a spot on the Yanks' Copa America roster isn't out of the question considering Klinsmann's history of selecting youngsters for major tournaments.

Jordan Morris, FW, Seattle Sounders (MLS)

Why he's here: The 21-year-old turned down a contract offer from Bundesliga club Werder Bremen and signed his first professional deal with the Sounders last week.

What this means: With veteran internationals Dempsey, Obafemi Martins and Nelson Valdez already on the books, the competition up front in Seattle will force Morris to sharpen his game. If he adapts quickly and carves out regular playing time, he'll take on a bigger role for the national team.

Luis Robles, GK, New York Red Bulls (MLS)

Why he's here: With Hamid (knee) forced to withdraw from U.S. camp, Robles is the only keeper originally invited by Klinsmann left on the roster.

What this means: Robles, 31, could start both upcoming friendlies, giving him a golden opportunity to stake his claim for the hotly contested third-string spot behind World Cup vets Guzan and Howard.

William Yarbrough, GK, Leon (Mexico)

Why he's here: The Mexican-born shot-stopper has started all three games this season for Leon, leading the club to the top of Liga MX standings.

What this means: Like Robles, the 26-year-old Yarbrough stands to benefit from Hamid's misfortune in 2016.

Cooling down

Ventura Alvarado, DF, Club America (Mexico)

Why he's here: Playing on the right flank, Alvarado had a shocker in Saturday's 4-1 home loss to Pachuca. His own goal gifted the visitors the lead, his turnover led to the Tuzos's second goal and he lost his man on their third.

What this means: As much as Klinsmann likes Alvarado, the poor performance won't have gone unnoticed by the U.S. coach. But the most damaging consequence would be America manager Ignacio Ambriz returning the 23-year-old Phoenix native back to the Aguilas bench, where he spent most of last season.

Geoff Cameron, DF/MF, Stoke City (England)

Why here's here: The ankle injury that has sidelined Cameron since Jan. 5 is taking longer than expected to heal and might keep him out another two to three weeks.

What this means: While it's the longest layoff Cameron has had in four years with the Potters, he should be fully recovered well ahead of the Americans' March qualifiers.

Brad Guzan, GK, Aston Villa (England)

Why he's here: The big keeper has officially lost his starting job with the soon-to-be-former Premier League club, which is actively seeking new talent between the posts.

What this means: Guzan spent most of 2015 as the U.S. No. 1 but he won't be able to compete for the job from Villa's bench as long as Howard is starting games for Everton. After almost eight years in Birmingham, the 31-year-old can't find a new employer soon enough.

Bill Hamid, GK, D.C. United (MLS)

Why he's here: The injury-prone goalie need knee surgery and will be out up to six months, his club announced last week.

What this means: Long considered the heir apparent to Howard and Guzan in the U.S. nets, one has to wonder if Hamid's body will allow him to ever reach his sky-high potential.

DeAndre Yedlin, DF/MF, Sunderland (England)

Why he's here: The Tottenham loanee was an unused substitute in Saturday's 1-1 tie against Bournemouth and hasn't started a league match for the Black Cats since Dec. 12.

What this means: With Sunderland out of cup competitions and mired in a relegation dogfight in the Prem, Yedlin might find minutes hard to come by between now and May, jeopardizing his chances of claiming a starting job with the U.S. this summer

 
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Taylor Twellman ‏@TaylorTwellman 3m3 minutes ago
Hearing within the next 24 hours Matt Miazga will be sold to an EPL club pending medical within the next day or 2. #RBNY #MLS

 
From a UK paper

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New York Red Bulls defender Matt Miazga is heading for the Premier League this transfer window.

Sportsmail understands the young defender will secure a move from New York Red Bulls by the end of this week - with Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City scouts on high alert.

But who is the 20-year-old American international? Here, Sportsmail's Sami Mokbel tells you all you need to know about the defender that could soon be signing for your club.

Matt Miazga? Should we know more about him?

He's played well in Major League Soccer. He's 20, strong in the air and a force in both boxes. AT 6ft 4in, he's a strong boy. Four-Four-Two recently compared him to Jaap Stam.

Where does he come from?

He was born in New Jersey and has a Polish passport, which helps English clubs. There are no work permit fights to be had. He chooses where he wants to sign and that's where he goes. Deal done. He's played 39 games in the MLS.

How long have clubs been watching him?

He signed for the New York Red Bulls academy when he was 14. People have known about him for a long time.

Scouts have flocked to watch him. Up to ten Premier League clubs have scouted him, including all the big teams.

But he'll just come and either sit on the bench or be loaned out, right?

Wrong. Part of the deal is that he gets the chance to play. Of course he has to prove he is good enough, but there is confidence from the Americans that he is a talent. Jurgen Klinsmann rates him highly and recently gave him his first cap.

What's the verdict?

He's tall, powerful and has a strong leap. He can handle the physical part of the game too. He won't be bullied.

When is he coming?

Soon. In this window. MLS are always keen to announce these deals, but your friendly and reliable MailOnline will be checking to find out more so we can be first with the news. Wherever the story breaks, remember the name - this kid could be a real force.

 
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Marc Stein from ESPN is reporting that Chelsea is the team that is buying Miazga.

If that is the team, do we need to hope for a loan?
Not necessarily. With Terry and Cahill, Chelsea need to get younger in the back-line. It won't help him get time this season, but Miazga could certainly be in the mix next season.

Would have been great if he went to Spurs, then he and CCV could pair together ... but playing time would probably have been harder to find at Spurs right now, with Alderweireld in place as the RCB.

 
Marc Stein from ESPN is reporting that Chelsea is the team that is buying Miazga.

If that is the team, do we need to hope for a loan?
Not necessarily. With Terry and Cahill, Chelsea need to get younger in the back-line. It won't help him get time this season, but Miazga could certainly be in the mix next season.

Would have been great if he went to Spurs, then he and CCV could pair together ... but playing time would probably have been harder to find at Spurs right now, with Alderweireld in place as the RCB.
Yeah, both those guys are at least half a step slow this year and Zouma is well Zouma. They've basically been playing with 3 CBs all year and it wouldn't shock me if he ends up being Zouma's equal.

Put it this way Chelsea CBs have tended to leak goals at inopportune times this year.

 
I feel beaten down as a fan but Pulisic, Miazga, CCV, Morris and a few other youngins are starting to give me some hope for the 2022 cycle.

 
I still think Miazga is likely a bit away from Chelsea's first team. I don't expect them to stand pat at CB next summer either. A place like Everton might have been perfect for Miazga with Stones likely to move to greener pastures (FWIW, does anyone else thing that Stones makes A LOT of mistakes for a supposed 40 million pound rated center back? Just me?). In any case, they didn't buy him to let him rot in the reserves. A loan to a step up league would seem to be the worst case scenario.

And who knows. It's still early, but I do think Miazga is very, very good. I don't know if I've seen a young player improve so much in one season.

 
I still think Miazga is likely a bit away from Chelsea's first team. I don't expect them to stand pat at CB next summer either. A place like Everton might have been perfect for Miazga with Stones likely to move to greener pastures (FWIW, does anyone else thing that Stones makes A LOT of mistakes for a supposed 40 million pound rated center back? Just me?). In any case, they didn't buy him to let him rot in the reserves. A loan to a step up league would seem to be the worst case scenario.

And who knows. It's still early, but I do think Miazga is very, very good. I don't know if I've seen a young player improve so much in one season.
Stone's "pass" to Howard was comical last weekend.

I guess he could get loaned back to NYRB, but he shares Pato's agent, so I wouldn't be shocked if he stayed at their for the rest of the season to at least provide some cover since their Feb calendar (at a minimum) will be fairly congested. Let me put it this way, it seems to be prudent to have a 4th CB for the rest of the year, so they'll either recall someone else or let that cover be Miazga.

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.
Any rumors on what the transfer fee will be?

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.
Pretty similar to how Yedlin was handled...but he is now in Sunderland :oldunsure:

The other difficulty with Chelsea right now, is that it still appears that they will be looking for a new manager this summer - somewhat limiting Miazga's audition.

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.
Any rumors on what the transfer fee will be?
$5 million is the reported number.

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.
Pretty similar to how Yedlin was handled...but he is now in Sunderland :oldunsure:

The other difficulty with Chelsea right now, is that it still appears that they will be looking for a new manager this summer - somewhat limiting Miazga's audition.
And Sunderland are hot to get Debuchy. The Yedlin experiment there seems over as well.

That doesn't bother me.. I think Yedlin's upside is a bench offensive option. His speed does create chances. But he's not going to learn to pass, control the ball, and read the game in his mid 20s. When DeAndre was transferred, Sean Franklin was still a better MLS right back.

Miazga is a much better prospect, IMO. He was a good as just about any CB in MLS. Maybe Ciman, Waston, and Hedges were better. And it's really close with Hedges.

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.
Pretty similar to how Yedlin was handled...but he is now in Sunderland :oldunsure:

The other difficulty with Chelsea right now, is that it still appears that they will be looking for a new manager this summer - somewhat limiting Miazga's audition.
And Sunderland are hot to get Debuchy. The Yedlin experiment there seems over as well.

That doesn't bother me.. I think Yedlin's upside is a bench offensive option. His speed does create chances. But he's not going to learn to pass, control the ball, and read the game in his mid 20s. When DeAndre was transferred, Sean Franklin was still a better MLS right back.

Miazga is a much better prospect, IMO. He was a good as just about any CB in MLS. Maybe Ciman, Waston, and Hedges were better. And it's really close with Hedges.
I agree - I think the bigger "worry" is what Chelsea do at manager this summer.

Not a lot of downside to the deal from Miazga's standpoint. He gets to train with Chelsea for half a season, and will likely get a loan to a decent club next season as the worst-case scenario. Chelsea do have a player or 2 out on loan.

 
What Wahl is reporting seems reasonable. Miazaga will stay with the first team through the end of this season. They'll evaluate him with the first team, see how he trains, get him minutes if he's ready and if the opportunity presents itself. After the end of the season, they'll evaluate whether to send him on loan.
Pretty similar to how Yedlin was handled...but he is now in Sunderland :oldunsure:

The other difficulty with Chelsea right now, is that it still appears that they will be looking for a new manager this summer - somewhat limiting Miazga's audition.
And Sunderland are hot to get Debuchy. The Yedlin experiment there seems over as well.

That doesn't bother me.. I think Yedlin's upside is a bench offensive option. His speed does create chances. But he's not going to learn to pass, control the ball, and read the game in his mid 20s. When DeAndre was transferred, Sean Franklin was still a better MLS right back.

Miazga is a much better prospect, IMO. He was a good as just about any CB in MLS. Maybe Ciman, Waston, and Hedges were better. And it's really close with Hedges.
I agree - I think the bigger "worry" is what Chelsea do at manager this summer.

Not a lot of downside to the deal from Miazga's standpoint. He gets to train with Chelsea for half a season, and will likely get a loan to a decent club next season as the worst-case scenario. Chelsea do have a player or 2 out on loan.
Worst case scenario is something like Tomas Kalas. He got 66 games at Vitesse, where he was apparently pretty good. He moved to Koln on loan where he got frozen out and never got a chance and ended up in Middlesboro on loan. That's kind of calamity for him, but he's still 22 with close to 100 games at Championship level or better.

Odds are he'll spend his 20s as a starter in a mid to lower table EPL team. If Miazga has that career, he'll have failed to fulfill his potential, but will still be a very viable USMNT CB option.

 
I am not feeling great about our GK position lately

* Howard is clearly not only on the back 9 but walking to the club house

* Guzan has lost his spot at Aston Villa and might be looking for a new team come the summer if Villa is relegated

* Our 2 best "next gen" keepers in Johnson and Hamid can't stay healthy to take advantage of their limited opportunities

* The best keeper prospect in MLS just turned down a call up to remain with Mexico's set up

I do really like what I have seen of Zach Steffan though and hope he can find he way to get loaned some where to get some playing time. I feel like he could start in MLS right now if he were here, but in Germany it might take a little while longer.

 
I am not feeling great about our GK position lately

* Howard is clearly not only on the back 9 but walking to the club house

* Guzan has lost his spot at Aston Villa and might be looking for a new team come the summer if Villa is relegated

* Our 2 best "next gen" keepers in Johnson and Hamid can't stay healthy to take advantage of their limited opportunities

* The best keeper prospect in MLS just turned down a call up to remain with Mexico's set up

I do really like what I have seen of Zach Steffan though and hope he can find he way to get loaned some where to get some playing time. I feel like he could start in MLS right now if he were here, but in Germany it might take a little while longer.
Ethan Horvath has done well too. I think Robles was pretty good for NYRB last year. But this next cycle is likely to be the weakest for us that I can remember. There's certainly no Brad/Kasey controversy.

Hamid's injuries are maddening. Every time it looks like he's polishing off the rough edges, he gets hurt. He's still as good a shot stopper as I've seen.

 
I am not feeling great about our GK position lately

* Howard is clearly not only on the back 9 but walking to the club house

* Guzan has lost his spot at Aston Villa and might be looking for a new team come the summer if Villa is relegated

* Our 2 best "next gen" keepers in Johnson and Hamid can't stay healthy to take advantage of their limited opportunities

* The best keeper prospect in MLS just turned down a call up to remain with Mexico's set up

I do really like what I have seen of Zach Steffan though and hope he can find he way to get loaned some where to get some playing time. I feel like he could start in MLS right now if he were here, but in Germany it might take a little while longer.
Ethan Horvath has done well too. I think Robles was pretty good for NYRB last year. But this next cycle is likely to be the weakest for us that I can remember. There's certainly no Brad/Kasey controversy.

Hamid's injuries are maddening. Every time it looks like he's polishing off the rough edges, he gets hurt. He's still as good a shot stopper as I've seen.
Horvath is actually getting real PT too. He has played in 31 games in 2015 according to his wiki page, which is fabulous for a 20 year old keeper. Sure it is not a great league but it is good enough at his age.

I like Robles steadiness (which is something both Hamid and Johnson could use) but he will be turning 32 in May, so I don't really look at him as one for the future, while acknowledging that 32 is not old for a keeper. Robles is actually older by a couple of months than Guzan.

 
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The Mexican Federation made a statement recently which said that targeting US born/based players is going to be a priority for them.
Like targeting in games (which has been going on for years)?

Or targeting as in they want kids of (illegal) immigrants? Most Mexican immigrants are loyal to 'El Tri' so shouldn't be too hard for them to get the players.

 
Seems really early for the miazga move. I worry he'll get lost in the shuffle if he doesn't end up in a great loan situation next year.

 

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