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OK I want projections on Wednesdays...even the free site fftoday and hector and victor have stuff out on wednesday. as a paying customer, shouldnt we get a good list on wed
My waiver picks have to be in on Tuesday...so why not then. Only DD can respond to the feasibility of projections by Wed or whenever. IMO, it seems like a lot to ask for if you expect a quality product.Let me ask you this...between the top 200, upgrades/downgrades, game reports, and the help available on this board, can't you get what you need to make an informed waiver decision?
I think if SOS could be bumped up to tuesday, that would be awesome. I would think that it doesn't require injury reports to calculate. It's probably my favorite tool when it comes to footballguys and guides much of my strategy for the playoffs. The earlier in the week it could be available, the better.
So you have preliminary sheets. To many customers, cheatsheets are the most important aspect of the deal - to others, it is raw data, to others, inside information. That said, I believe FBG's reputation of having (albeit valuable) tools/info up later than other sites may come back to hurt a community and site I like and actually care about.
Tuesday or Wednesday is no much different than Thursday... You think magically tomorrow we will know about julius jones... fftoday has Tyson on their cheatsheet and not jones.. it changes daily i agree but no reason dodds cant update ithe an even put a disclamier on it if he wants
There is no "magic" day where information becomes crystal clear, so the difference between Wednesday and Thursday is not enormous, but it is substancial enough. In my opinion even Thursday is too early to make any truly legitimate rankings, but it can still be entertaining to see where your guys are listed and if the site agrees with your percieved order of the moment. My point is, the oppurtinity for backlash by early rankings is way to big to justify having them. People percieve the rankings as some almighty proclomation, and as I see it, to have none available is more useful than having the wrong one available.
Joe - to be clear, I think you have added some important content. That said, the competition has also. The one thing that is lacking here, even if the information is so much more in depth (and therefor, good), is that early edge.I believe for a large portion of your market segment, getting something early is better than having it a little more perfect, but later in the week (or even the day).
You can't be everything to everyone! Keep up the good work!
Their waiver wire selections come out Monday I believe, that should do you. If you need more help or have specific questions, please feel free to visit here: Coach's Corner
However, as a business, if there is a large segment of your customer base that would be exceptionally more pleased with their product experience through a (relatively) nominal additional expense of resources, the bottom line demands that change be made.Joe knows his business better than we, so perhaps those of us that would find great value in an additional day are not important from an ROI point of view - but knowing my friends who do fantasy (a fairly large sample, coast to coast I might add), one day early would mean a lot. For some it means one site vs. another, even if the later site (not chosen) is better content.
Thanks Koya. I understand where you're coming from. I can't make any promises but it's definitely something we'll take a look at. I have no doubt folks would like it a lot. As you say, it's just a ROI thing as we weigh out the cost / effort ( with effort really the bigger part as staying married is pretty high on my prioity list
) against the benefit. The idea of throwing out a substandard cheatsheet early that will likely radically change by Thursday is also a concern but it's something we'll weigh in there too. Thanks.J
Not substandard. Preliminary and subject to change.Thanks Koya. I understand where you're coming from. I can't make any promises but it's definitely something we'll take a look at. I have no doubt folks would like it a lot. As you say, it's just a ROI thing as we weigh out the cost / effort ( with effort really the bigger part as staying married is pretty high on my prioity list
You know, people actually pay me to tell them this stuff (why I dont know, but as long as they do, and it helps them out, its good with me)(However, as a business, if there is a large segment of your customer base that would be exceptionally more pleased with their product experience through a (relatively) nominal additional expense of resources, the bottom line demands that change be made.Joe knows his business better than we, so perhaps those of us that would find great value in an additional day are not important from an ROI point of view - but knowing my friends who do fantasy (a fairly large sample, coast to coast I might add), one day early would mean a lot. For some it means one site vs. another, even if the later site (not chosen) is better content.
I would hate for the better site imo (FBGs) lose out because of this decision, but I know they do.
Large segment, huh???250 Users reading reading this a few minutes ago, yet only a few posts asking for them earlier.
Uh huh.The men that run that thread are extremely intelligent, and volunteer their time to help out other people that usually don't give anything back.
I thought they were saying to visit the assistant coaches forum which is usuallly a waste of time. their thread looked good and if it is run by a few people that is impressive
I think he wants somebody to tell him what he has to do.
I think many who would bother to post on a message board are more prone to want good information, rather than early / timely. But when I talk to my friends and a great number of people who are into fantasy, it is my impression that many are happy with any list, even a bad one, sooner rather than later.However, as a business, if there is a large segment of your customer base that would be exceptionally more pleased with their product experience through a (relatively) nominal additional expense of resources, the bottom line demands that change be made.Joe knows his business better than we, so perhaps those of us that would find great value in an additional day are not important from an ROI point of view - but knowing my friends who do fantasy (a fairly large sample, coast to coast I might add), one day early would mean a lot. For some it means one site vs. another, even if the later site (not chosen) is better content.
I would hate for the better site imo (FBGs) lose out because of this decision, but I know they do.
I am not saying I think it is a unreasonable request, just that some people would rather wait with better content, others want them earlier with more "guessing" by the staff.
I bet a lot of people would want to have the cheatsheets out earlier, however, this thread certainly doesn't suggest that (at least not yet).
That is a VERY good point. I bet a LOT of customers who are not "as involved" in the news and research would love someone to tell them what to do. They want to think less and see more cheatsheets. I truly believe that is a sizeable portion of this huge market that shouldnt go ignored, from a business standpoint. Doesnt mean you have to put out subpar info - but you can change a business practice to better their user experience with the product.
Posting a thread in the AC is not the way to go. You get inane, stupid answers.If you post in either the CC or the KK, you'll get pretty good, thoughtful answers.
no I want another piece of information that would be useful inmy decision making.. DO I use the top 200 only? no. Do I rely on this board.. no exclusively but it helps. Game reports for me dont do a lot for mebut I'm sure they help some people. Waiver wire is pretty good but often has people that arent on waivers in my league....The more info available, the better each user can customize it to serve their needs..
No offense, but have you taken an English class in your life?
I spend more time than I shuould, am 4-1 and 3-2 in 2 leagues... If you did your own research you wouldnt come to the board or site yourself... I dont just plug in who is highest on the cheatsheet and if I did, who cares? I do this for fun and frankly I don't appreciate being attacked by arrogant people who only live to make snarky comments on thei board
If everyone subscribed to this philosophy, FBGs would have a lot less business. If they dont capitalize on this market segment, it is a poor business decision (not saying that they do not by the way, again, they know their business more than I do, although I have a pretty good understanding of what many of their customers want).
I think they've disabled that feature for the moment. Not sure when/if it will be back?
oh i agree wholeheartedly... and i ain't mad at 'em. i congratulate them on their approach and the way that they have "convinced" people that they're smarter than the average bear. i just continue to be amazed that more people don't give themselves enough credit to make the same educated guesses (which is what FBG does, basically) that the staff makes.oh well, to each his/her own.
wow, congrats on your stellar records.
there's a difference between reading news items and the average person's thoughts, and paying for a numbered list of who to pick up and play.
