might have to wait another week. Things certainly don't get easier vs the very physical and talented SEA defense this week. At least it's in DET.
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When will Megatron start scoring like Megatron? (1 Viewer)
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Maui Monster
Footballguy
Here is what I don't understand about last nights game. Calvin Johson is 6'5" and leaps as good as anyone. When Stafford targeted him in the ends on they had Calvin running inside slants with 1-1 coverage to the outside.
Why in the world would you not try a jump ball fade to Calvin? Yes Tillman is physical, but odds are Megatron comes down with a jump ball.
Was this terrible play calling? So coaches fault or Stafford?
I did not see 1 pass last night that was a jump ball for Calvin. And they were in the Red zone a lot.
Why in the world would you not try a jump ball fade to Calvin? Yes Tillman is physical, but odds are Megatron comes down with a jump ball.
Was this terrible play calling? So coaches fault or Stafford?
I did not see 1 pass last night that was a jump ball for Calvin. And they were in the Red zone a lot.
Dought Man
Footballguy
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
No thanks. I was just pointing out the insecurities of posters who feel the need to bump their own posts so they can tell everyone "I told you so".Um, why are you interested? Check out CraigsList..they have sections for these sort of fetishes. HTHSmall peepee?
RamMan
Footballguy
I recall DET trying at least one "jump ball" into the endzone for Calvin (didn't watch most of the game as I was busy watching our Giants crush in the NLCS
). The ball was thrown too much on a line - altho Calvin got both hands on it for a second. Tillman ended up breaking up the play.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
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I'm pretty sure the small peepee fetish is illegal.that was a legit bump, btw -- good call.
Maui Monster
Footballguy
That play you are talking about was not a jump ball. It was thrown straight. Albeit over Tillman's head but not a loft for him to jump for.I recall DET trying at least one "jump ball" into the endzone for Calvin (didn't watch most of the game as I was busy watching our Giants crush in the NLCS
Maui Monster
Footballguy
Just moved him in a 2QB league. I got Palmer, Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson
Dought Man
Footballguy
Lighten up...I didn't dent your car. This is supposed to be fun, right? Save the srsbzns demeanor for work.No thanks. I was just pointing out the insecurities of posters who feel the need to bump their own posts so they can tell everyone "I told you so".Um, why are you interested? Check out CraigsList..they have sections for these sort of fetishes. HTHSmall peepee?
using FBG rest of way rankings that came out today, they have Calvin WR3 behind AJ Green and Cruz. Being 3rd most productive from here on out would elevate him to finish around WR7-WR9 in my scoring. Certainly WELL below what those who spent a 1st round pick on him were seeing as the floor.
Lavachebeadsman
Footballguy
What type of deals are you offering for him? 2 top 15ish wr's? A Mcgahee and Dez type deal? Really want to target him but I don't know how much or how little to give up.
in one of my leagues, he was traded today for Andre Johnson and Shonn Greene.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
What? And even with AJ on his bye. I don't like that at all.
I didn't like it either but he was desperate for RB's and has a ton of depth at WR so I can soooooorrta see where he was coming from. Still don't like it.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
The completion percentage to a WR the caliber of CJ is horrific. The guy is a physical freak. How about some back shoulder passes? Unstoppable. Same with come back routes. How about more jump balls that have heighth on them, vs. a 95 MPH bullet on a slant that's head high where everyone can get to it. Just bad play calling and bad execution by Stafford. Take what the defense gives you. They are trying to force everything.
That being said - my team is balanced enough that I will ride out Calvin the rest of the year. Won't consider trading him. Hopefully, they'll get their act together. If not, it will be a reminder to me at draft time next year that there is no sure thing. I thought Brady having a monster year and Calvin continuing to dominate were about the safest picks in the first round. So far - not the case. Tough game.
That being said - my team is balanced enough that I will ride out Calvin the rest of the year. Won't consider trading him. Hopefully, they'll get their act together. If not, it will be a reminder to me at draft time next year that there is no sure thing. I thought Brady having a monster year and Calvin continuing to dominate were about the safest picks in the first round. So far - not the case. Tough game.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Megatron is still on pace for 100 catches and nearly 1,600 yards, but the TDs won't start coming in bunches till Stafford pulls his head out of his ###. That throw the other day that Tillman broke out...like has been said, throw that as a jump ball, let Megatron go up and get it and it's a touchdown. It's that simple. But throwing it on a line like that makes it easy for a CB as good as Tillman to break it up.
Dizzy
Footballguy
After you scoop Victor Cruz off of waivers, please share your scoring system.
Someone earlier said this was a Stafford issue. I'm not totally in disagreement.
if you cant stop a player like Mega who can outrun and outjump you for the ball, the smart move is to go after the QB so he cant throw him good balls.
the games I have watched, I've seen teams making a larger effort to give him less time to find his primary receiver, and those rushed throws have not been as accurate and I think that is definitely part of the problem.
Teams have adjusted. The Lions will also adjust to improve their game, but these things dont happen overnight.
give em some time. they'll sort it out.
if you cant stop a player like Mega who can outrun and outjump you for the ball, the smart move is to go after the QB so he cant throw him good balls.
the games I have watched, I've seen teams making a larger effort to give him less time to find his primary receiver, and those rushed throws have not been as accurate and I think that is definitely part of the problem.
Teams have adjusted. The Lions will also adjust to improve their game, but these things dont happen overnight.
give em some time. they'll sort it out.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Dought Man
Footballguy
Hard to see more than 75 yards this week. Not that it really matters. We're all going to start him regardless.
Teams are game planning to stop Calvin Johnson. And until another real offensive threat appears they will have 2 guys dedicated to shutting him down. For instance, in the red zone teams are lining up 2 guys opposite him at scrimmage. What are the lions going to do about it? Every othe WR/TE has stone hands or route issues. The RBs are all either coming off of injury or sub par. Plus stafford isn't throwing as accurate as last year. And it only gets worst with the Burleson broken leg. I don't see Johnson's numbers getting better this year.
Just got him for Antonio Brown and Andre Johnson.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I was offered harvin for him. I said no. 
rockaction
Footballguy
I have them both, and if I had to drop one, I'd drop Harvin. I just hope they get it turned around.I was offered harvin for him. I said no.
Rick James
Footballguy
I mean think about it-- who else are DC's scheming for? Are they staying up all night trying to find ways to keep Titus Young, Ryan Brolyes, Mikel Leshoure and Brandon Pettigrew from beating them? Not likely.
Combine that with Stafford not playing as well as he did last year, and you've got some issues for Calvin.
Combine that with Stafford not playing as well as he did last year, and you've got some issues for Calvin.
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Love how much talk I'm hearing from the CB out of Seattle. Calling himself Optimus Prime.
I think Megatron scores like Megatron this weekend.
I think Megatron scores like Megatron this weekend.
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
I agree. Calvin got a good "practice" game in with Peanut Tillman guarding him last week and locking him down. Sherman is a 5th rounder in his 2nd year and been over-achieving this season. I think his cockiness catches up with him this week and Calvin lights him up for 2 TDs and 100+ yards. Calvin is too good and has been defended by better CBs. I think "Optimus Prime" (####) gets reduced to a matchbox car this weekend.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I keep seeing this, but the Lions' personnel is basically the same as it was last season other than Jahvid Best who only played in the first 6 games.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Did you see the Bears defense formations? The had a CB right on top of CJ with a safety 15 yards off the line and backing up at the snap, then a LB had inside coverage. So there was double coverage on every play with deep help, and triple on some plays. The problem is that the Lions are not making the teams pay by using the other players to beat them. If you watched the replay of Calvins drop on the first drive he was already in the seam for a 25-30 yard gain and a chance to take it 60-70 yards and a possible score. The ball was thrown perfectly and he was in full stride... I have never seen him drop one that wide open before.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I think he pulled a T Owens.....Alligator Arms.....scared that the safety was about to try and blow him up.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
I'm thinking of benching him this week and starting Wayne and Cruz...
DepthCharts
Footballguy
Here's all i want to know.
In games the lions rushed 20 times, what are calvins targets and catches?
In games the lions rushed less than 20 times, what are calvins targets and catches?
IN games the lions rushed for 80 yards or more, what are calvins targets and catches?
In games the lions rushed for less than 80 yards, what are calvins targets and catches?
Because, I firmly believe that a good run defense, or a lack of running game making any defense a good defense is the key factor here in Calvin's case. When you can stop a run game and drop a safety TWO STEPS and FREE a LB to jump inside routes you will see a downgrade in targets and catches. slants, ins, etc are all taken away by the newly created double team short (LB) and deep (S). Pretty sure this is what we say Monday night.
There, I went the whole way without saying its staffords fault.
In games the lions rushed 20 times, what are calvins targets and catches?
In games the lions rushed less than 20 times, what are calvins targets and catches?
IN games the lions rushed for 80 yards or more, what are calvins targets and catches?
In games the lions rushed for less than 80 yards, what are calvins targets and catches?
Because, I firmly believe that a good run defense, or a lack of running game making any defense a good defense is the key factor here in Calvin's case. When you can stop a run game and drop a safety TWO STEPS and FREE a LB to jump inside routes you will see a downgrade in targets and catches. slants, ins, etc are all taken away by the newly created double team short (LB) and deep (S). Pretty sure this is what we say Monday night.
There, I went the whole way without saying its staffords fault.
SWC
Bromigo
he is having a good year the problem is that his qb is not and the other wrs around him do not seem to be stepping up like they did last year so he is facing a ton of doules and brackets over the top which means he will keep getting yards underneath but the long tds are going to be harder to come by in my opinion take that to the bank
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
he did his best with S Hill in there this season, Im beginning to wonder if its Stafford.... I had Stafford last year and he was awesome.. this year... I dont know whats happened...
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I have him in a dynasty league. Took him 1.01 this year in a start up.
I have had several offers for him:
Jamal Charles, Kendal Wright
Roddy White, DHB, 1st next year (probably 1.10-1.12 range)
Andre Johnson, Mike Wallace
Denied all three. Not willing to give up the core of my team for any of these offers.
I have had several offers for him:
Jamal Charles, Kendal Wright
Roddy White, DHB, 1st next year (probably 1.10-1.12 range)
Andre Johnson, Mike Wallace
Denied all three. Not willing to give up the core of my team for any of these offers.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Then you must have only watched him last year. Calvin had a lot of drops prior to last year, and quite a few struggles with his hands in general. His talent has always been off the charts, but last year was the first year he really put it all together with his football skills on top of that. That seems to have regressed a bit this year, and he's not making some of the plays he made last year.Of course, an even bigger part of it is Stafford. I don't know why they were so fixating on throwing those high slants down by the goaline against Chicago. My guess it was one of those things where a coach or coordinator out-thinks himself. They probably saw something on Tillman that made them think throwing it high on a line rather than a more traditional jump ball was the way to beat him. Problem was, like a million coaches before, they didn't back off it when what they "saw" was clearly wrong and not working. Stafford just throws the ball too hot for anyone to catch one of those high slant throws from that close.
Dought Man
Footballguy
Having a year of tape, everyone was easily able to sit back and realize, "take away the deep routes and Stafford doesn't have the patience to work the ball downfield slowly. He has trouble fitting the ball in between LB's and deep safeties in cover 2"So, everyone just plays soft fronts and drops deep safeties on the Lions now.. Stafford can't adjust.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Finally. This is what we need.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
We're back on track, fellas. This whole place seems normal again somehow.
sdp1226
Footballguy
While you're at, please bench McCoy and DMC also. We need some turn around from these guys as well.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I think Rotoworld needs new editors....
playin4beer
Footballguy
I traded McFadden for him straight up.. non ppr.. 6pts for all TD's.. my other RB's are SJax, D.Murray, CJ Spiller, Alex Green and Goodson..
I'm banking on him blowing up the 2nd half of the season... it's not like DMac was tearing it up..
I'm banking on him blowing up the 2nd half of the season... it's not like DMac was tearing it up..
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Since a double negative makes a statement positive, does a double positive like this make it a negative?I think Rotoworld needs new editors....
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
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