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where will CJ play in 2014?Jets sign him (2 Viewers)
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Sources: If RB Chris Johnson is released as expected by Titans, NY Jets would be interested in former All-Pro
BY Manish Mehta
Friday, April 4, 2014, 10:40 AM
BY Manish Mehta
Friday, April 4, 2014, 10:40 AM
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KCitons
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 5m
Four teams that discussed a potential trade for RB Chris Johnson, but ultimately declined to do so, were the Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Falcons.
Four teams that discussed a potential trade for RB Chris Johnson, but ultimately declined to do so, were the Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Falcons.
KCitons
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. The negotiations with the Dolphins probably took place prior to signing Moreno.
The Bills discussion is confusing.
Dr. Octopus
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KellysHeroes
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massraider
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I would have to think his people/CJ himself like the Jets' cap room, and competition for carries.
Coeur de Lion
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Wat? Spiller has missed 3 games in 4 years and has a career YPC > 5 -- he's been splitting with Jackson because Jackson is also damn good, not because Spiller isn't dependable.
cstu
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I'll rephrase that...I don't think he's an every down back but the Bills would likely have to pay him like one to keep him. It's more likely they choose to replace him in the draft next year than give him a big contract.
KellysHeroes
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Falcons please
good points re why Cowboys won't sign CJ http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2014/04/cowboys-dont-run-demarco-murray-enough-why-would-they-want-to-add-chris-johnson.html/
"yards left on the field" supposedly really frustrated Titans coaches. I'm curious if this is also why Fisher and Rams seem to not be interested.
IMO with a back that has blinding speed N burst, there will always be yards left on the field. It always seems possible he's "off to the races" but in reality it's far less often. 1 in 30 1 in 40...idk but when you watch him every week, there's this feeling his style breeds that feels like it's about to happen if he just gets a little space. Naturally, you're let down until he actually does "take off."
IMO with a back that has blinding speed N burst, there will always be yards left on the field. It always seems possible he's "off to the races" but in reality it's far less often. 1 in 30 1 in 40...idk but when you watch him every week, there's this feeling his style breeds that feels like it's about to happen if he just gets a little space. Naturally, you're let down until he actually does "take off."
Ghost Rider
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The Duff Man
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Spiller has an option next year that pays him about $2m. Likely he will want to test the market unless the Bills lock him up before then.
They were pretty unhappy with his running last year, he made bad cuts and the wrong choice way too much.
In his defense, he was hurt after game 4, and his grandfather committed murder/suicide at the end of spring training so i dont think we got a fair assessment of his ability.
The Bills interest tells me they are far apart in contract talks with Spiller.
They were pretty unhappy with his running last year, he made bad cuts and the wrong choice way too much.
In his defense, he was hurt after game 4, and his grandfather committed murder/suicide at the end of spring training so i dont think we got a fair assessment of his ability.
The Bills interest tells me they are far apart in contract talks with Spiller.
I couldn't dislike Loggains offense any more.
That said, he's a tough back to utilize when defenses are so very ready for him, especially a disciplined D. Getting him out in space isn't easy against a disciplined D.
In the game threads, we often rooted for a screen pass. Usually at that point the D had proven they had covered the field very well and he wasn't breaking through.
When Wright learned to use his ridiculous lateral speed, the Titans never showcased this with some medium or deep routes where he could create some space for CJ and demand the Ds attention. Instead they gave him these dink n dunk routes and as long as they weren't too many yards, defenses didn't seem too concerned. The Titans didn't do anything to bring focus away from CJ.
If he were to sign with the Broncos (aside from some oddly unique overcrowding a field with stars problem) I totally wonder how many yards he could run for. I do think he can "take off" twice a game and if you predict stats for that they wind up being ridiculously high.
They would run into a bit of the same problem as the Titans did in that he has become the poor short yardage RB people incorrectly thought he was when he was younger. The tough grind it out 3 yards, he's not getting but instead looks like he hit a brick wall. Yet if you don't put him in, you won't give him the opportunity to break one. It isn't like oh let's have CJ break a long run here and they just call a play that's an 80 yard run-people act like such a play exists but really it's more fortunate for an offense.
SaintsInDome2006
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Drove me crazy then and it's driven me crazy since that the Saints did not draft him back when.
And he would be awesome in that role, and the Saints would be awesome with him, but they let Sproles go after all partly because they needed the cap space (partly), but then CJ would have to, as you say, be willing to accept the chemistry of the Saints, which means to never have a 'me first' mentality not to mention having knowing you will be one of several RBs that can be RB1 one moment and RB4 the next. But oh boy he would be great in that offense.
No Problem
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I know there are reports saying Atlanta is not interested but I think Atlanta would be the perfect landing spot.
CJ would not have to carry the load with SJax still around.
Give CJ 15-18 touches a game including 3-5 targets
Teams would have to respect Ryan and his wrs in 3 wr sets
CJ will see a light boxes and lots of running lanes. If you watch game tape from last year if there was a crease CJ hit it and was gone many times.
Makes alot of sense to me but I am not sure what Atlanta's cap numbers look like.
CJ would not have to carry the load with SJax still around.
Give CJ 15-18 touches a game including 3-5 targets
Teams would have to respect Ryan and his wrs in 3 wr sets
CJ will see a light boxes and lots of running lanes. If you watch game tape from last year if there was a crease CJ hit it and was gone many times.
Makes alot of sense to me but I am not sure what Atlanta's cap numbers look like.
Alex P Keaton
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cstu
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CJ caught 82% of his targets for 8.3 YPR.
Sproles caught 84% of his targets for 8.5 YPR.
cstu
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$8.7M but they have salaries (notably Matt Ryan's $9.5M) they could convert into signing bonuses to free up money if they wanted to sign him.
KellysHeroes
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KellysHeroes
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Is Zona in any consideration?
It seems the market for RB is really cold. All I heard thus far are speculations. There are actually many teams could use an upgrade. Probably his price tag is too high which turned off some teams? It will be really interesting to see what he lands.
I don't think he is a game changer anymore like his pre-injury self. But in a good situation, he will be very productive for a few years to come.
I don't think he is a game changer anymore like his pre-injury self. But in a good situation, he will be very productive for a few years to come.
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ILUVBEER99
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much better to draft a good one in the 2nd/3rd round and pay them squat on their rookie contract over picking up an expensive vet who will take up a bunch of cap room.
GM said something like he's relieved to be done with it. CJ seemed excited for new opportunity.
GM was on the radio that afternoon and said they are definitely drafting a RB
http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/04/tennessee-titans-running-back-2014-nfl-draft/
Quote from another article:
General manager Ruston Webster said the Titans thank Johnson for his contributions, setting so many franchise records and being durable over his six seasons with Tennessee.
“We have had an open dialogue with Chris’ agent, Joel Segal, over the last few weeks, and we appreciate the patience and professionalism they have shown throughout this process,” Webster said in statement. “We made an effort to trade Chris but were unable to do so.”
Quote from another article:
General manager Ruston Webster said the Titans thank Johnson for his contributions, setting so many franchise records and being durable over his six seasons with Tennessee.
“We have had an open dialogue with Chris’ agent, Joel Segal, over the last few weeks, and we appreciate the patience and professionalism they have shown throughout this process,” Webster said in statement. “We made an effort to trade Chris but were unable to do so.”
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spreagle
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Chris Johnson totally deserves this blasting ... recall when he expressed his classy opinion that "You get paid for what you did, not what you are going to do." regarding his big contract? I'm sure that went over well with Titans management. It's payback time now. Time for Chris to get prepared to "be paid for what you did, not what you are going to do."
