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WR CeeDee Lamb, DAL (2 Viewers)

Dr. BD said:
Slipped to 8 in my first draft this weekend... 

Granted, a guy took Burrow at 6... 

CEH, Taylor, Jeudy, Dobbins, Akers, Burrow, Swift, Lamb
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I plan to take Lamb top 5 and the 1st WR off the board. I'm not sure where Jeudy will fall in this draft but I'm sure he'll be gone by the time I choose again at 1.10 and 2.01 if so then some combination of Jefferson, Aiyuk, Reagor, or Pittman (haven't decided yet) will be selected. I have all of these clumped together. Burrow at 6 is interesting.

Tex

 
My 1.01 in this class. He has spidey-sense on the field and will feast right away with Cooper and Gallup taking coverage away. Plus he is probably PO’ed about being the third wr drafted.

 
I'm starting to question his targets Year 1. Assuming he leaps over Gallup who had an impressive 66 / 1107 / 6 last year, he's still behind Cooper and Zeke for touches.

It just seems like guys whom it would be "convenient" to disappear fantasy wise for rookies sometimes become the name to their existence.

Should thrive in close games and garbage time. Could see as few as 3-4 targets in quality wins where Zeke runs away with it. But you're probably not drafting him to start him Year 1.

 
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Blackbear said:
He seems outstanding. The situation is concerning. I would have advised you to trade back with your 1.01 and you likely could have still had him around 1.07. The 1.01 for me would have been CEH. Then Taylor, Swift, Akers, and Dobbins likely would have gone. Someone likely to take Burrows. 
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The situation is great IMO. I don’t ever draft a rookie for their rookie production. He will feast on the opposing teams 2 & 3 best cover guys. He will be able to learn the ropes from two other good receivers while being eased into his role against weaker corners. He won’t be startable in redraft but will have incredible weeks sprinkled in. I look past year one and see a guy who can develop into a top tier FFer.

 
Blackbear said:
I’m a big believer in Lamb too. I just thought you could have traded back and score more riches. I think people trading up are looking at the first few RBs and Burrows from what I have seen. Not cramping on the player, just would have wanted to trade down a little and load up next years draft a bit. But, what do I know. On Lamb I think he gets a fair amount of slot work in second half of season. So probably he will pay dividends half part of season in ppr. Then future, as you said too, is very bright. 🙂
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For sure, he is not a value at 1.01....but that is where I have him ranked. Trade down if possible...

 
King of the Jungle said:
The situation is great IMO. I don’t ever draft a rookie for their rookie production. He will feast on the opposing teams 2 & 3 best cover guys. He will be able to learn the ropes from two other good receivers while being eased into his role against weaker corners. He won’t be startable in redraft but will have incredible weeks sprinkled in. I look past year one and see a guy who can develop into a top tier FFer.
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Just curious of your opinion because you're coming off as a sensible guy.

Who do you rank higher longterm? Metcalf or Lamb?

 
Breezy H2O said:
Just curious of your opinion because you're coming off as a sensible guy.

Who do you rank higher longterm? Metcalf or Lamb?
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I have a tendency to draft players that I love watching to play even if it costs me a bit of value. I own both and love both. Splitting hairs down the middle. Me choosing one or the other wouldn’t really matter as I would place them in the same tier. Both have good QBs for FF, Seattle is more run heavy so that is a factor.... Guys like Metcalf (Hulk physique) do worry me health wise a little bit and he has a somewhat of an injury history....

Gun to head....Lamb....but not by much...

 
King of the Jungle said:
I have a tendency to draft players that I love watching to play even if it costs me a bit of value. I own both and love both. Splitting hairs down the middle. Me choosing one or the other wouldn’t really matter as I would place them in the same tier. Both have good QBs for FF, Seattle is more run heavy so that is a factor.... Guys like Metcalf (Hulk physique) do worry me health wise a little bit and he has a somewhat of an injury history....

Gun to head....Lamb....but not by much...
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That's what I figured. Same tier of talent. Just didn't want to give you a softball.

Lamb is the better prospect but Metcalf had already "done it". Wanted to give you something to chew on a little bit.

Thanks for the response.

 
Fantasy Pros has CeeDee Lamb with the highest number of available targets:

Impact Rookie Wide Receivers (2020 Fantasy Football)

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CeeDee Lamb (WR – DAL)

190 available targets

CeeDee Lamb is a talented wide receiver stepping into an offense with a whopping 190 targets available. Of course, he won’t see that sort of volume by himself, but it’s notable that there are this many targets available with both of Dallas’ top two receivers returning for 2020. Lamb’s floor this season should be Randall Cobb’s numbers from last season. As the Cowboys’ number three receiver last year, Cobb saw 83 targets for 55 receptions, 828 receiving yards, and three touchdowns on 15.1 yards per reception. 

Lamb is much more talented than Cobb is at this point in his career, and he should provide an upgrade on the veteran. In fact, there are many who believe that Lamb will eventually emerge as the number one receiver for Dallas, even ahead of Amari Cooper. With that being said, he will open the season as the number three. His target based role could change as the season progresses, as someone with Lamb’s skill lining up in the slot, or against constant single coverage will be hard for Dak Prescott to ignore. 

Currently the number one rookie in terms of ECR (48), and ADP (43), Lamb should be able to provide at least the WR4 value his ADP suggests. He has the upside for much, much more, but comfortably projecting more than 900 receiving yards for a number three receiver in this COVID-19 affected offseason would be disingenuous. Lamb has Cooper and Michael Gallup limiting his potential upside, but make no mistake: he is going to make an immediate fantasy impact.
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Cowboys signed No. 17 overall pick WR CeeDee Lamb to a four-year, $14.01 million contract. 

A three-year starting outside receiver at Oklahoma, Lamb earned consensus All-American honors as a true junior by posting a 62/1,324/14 receiving line. He easily led the draft class in yards per target (15.1) and yards after the catch (11.0), seamlessly dodging would-be tacklers in open space. He wins at the line of scrimmage with quick feet and finishes off plays with in-air adjustments, drawing comparisons to DeAndre Hopkins. Lamb will be utilized in the screen game and on vertical routes as an all-around go-to slot option with Dallas despite being an average-sized wideout with 4.50 speed. With little other depth behind Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup, Lamb will start in three-wide sets as a 21-year-old rookie, pushing Cooper to the slot at times. Lamb himself also led the nation in yards per route run (6.11) from the slot last year. 

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Jul 23, 2020, 10:04 AM ET
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JohnnyU said:
Did Gallup get traded?  Because he isn't going anywhere and as long as they have Cooper and Gallup, I would think that would limit Lamb's fantasy impact, but I could be wrong.
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Impact Rookie Wide Receivers (2020 Fantasy Football)

CeeDee Lamb (WR – DAL)

190 available targets

CeeDee Lamb is a talented wide receiver stepping into an offense with a whopping 190 targets available. Of course, he won’t see that sort of volume by himself, but it’s notable that there are this many targets available with both of Dallas’ top two receivers returning for 2020. Lamb’s floor this season should be Randall Cobb’s numbers from last season. As the Cowboys’ number three receiver last year, Cobb saw 83 targets for 55 receptions, 828 receiving yards, and three touchdowns on 15.1 yards per reception. 

Lamb is much more talented than Cobb is at this point in his career, and he should provide an upgrade on the veteran. In fact, there are many who believe that Lamb will eventually emerge as the number one receiver for Dallas, even ahead of Amari Cooper. With that being said, he will open the season as the number three. His target based role could change as the season progresses, as someone with Lamb’s skill lining up in the slot, or against constant single coverage will be hard for Dak Prescott to ignore. 

Currently the number one rookie in terms of ECR (48), and ADP (43), Lamb should be able to provide at least the WR4 value his ADP suggests. He has the upside for much, much more, but comfortably projecting more than 900 receiving yards for a number three receiver in this COVID-19 affected offseason would be disingenuous. Lamb has Cooper and Michael Gallup limiting his potential upside, but make no mistake: he is going to make an immediate fantasy impact.
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JohnnyU said:
Did Gallup get traded?  Because he isn't going anywhere and as long as they have Cooper and Gallup, I would think that would limit Lamb's fantasy impact, but I could be wrong.
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I don't think Gallup is elite just good or very good someday. I think Lamb is going to expose this. It might take some time but when Lamb figures out the NFL, I think he's a star. I like this thread title and would otherwise feel it's a bit much but this year he and Jeudy give me that "look out NFL" feel. FF has burned me so many times on rookies, I gotta try to contain my projections and expectations with these two. Once Lamb hits, Gallup is going to be competing with the TE for whatever targets are left over from Lamb, Cooper, and Elliot. 

 
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Cooper's praise and lofty expectations for Lamb are certainly warranted, based on the rookie's exceptional career at Oklahoma. The 6-foot-2, 198-pound pass-catcher amassed 3,292 receiving yards on 173 receptions with 33 total touchdowns in his three seasons with the Sooners. As a big-play specialist, Lamb averaged 19.0 yards per catch at OU while exhibiting outstanding hands, ball skills, and run-after-catch ability. He flashes a little DeAndre Hopkins in his game as a 50-50-ball snatcher, but he's more dynamic and explosive with the rock in his hands. Lamb displays a combination of power and wiggle that makes him tough to take down in the open field, particularly when he catches the ball on slants and shallow crossers.

The rookie's expansive toolbox and dynamic skills make the Cowboys' receiving corps arguably the best unit in the game, with Cooper and Gallup coming off 1,100-yard seasons. Plus, Cooper and Lamb have the capacity to play outside or in the slot. That versatility could enable head coach Mike McCarthy to put either playmaker at the Z position (flanker) with the other lined up as the E (a.k.a. slot) receiver. This is a tactic that McCarthy frequently utilized in Green Bay to create and exploit mismatches with a talented set of pass catchers.

In Dallas, this strategy will be enhanced by the presence of Ezekiel Elliott in the backfield. The two-time NFL rushing champ will force opponents to utilize more "plus-one" fronts to contain the Cowboys' potent running game, and that will lead to more one-on-one coverage on the perimeter. With defensive coordinators unable to utilize brackets or double-teams to slow down Cooper (... or Gallup ... or Lamb), the Cowboys' aerial attack becomes extremely difficult to stop.

The Cowboys' 11 personnel package (one RB, one TE, three WRs) not only gives them three pass catchers with A-plus playmaking ability to exploit one-on-one matchups, but it should also encourage Dak Prescott to take more shots down the field. Cooper, Gallup and Lamb have the capacity to wrestle 50-50 balls from defenders along the boundary and each possesses enough speed to win on vertical routes against single coverage.

Considering Prescott's precision down the field (a dive into the Next Gen Stats suggests No. 4 was the NFL's best deep-ball passer last season), the trio could produce more big plays and fuel an offense that's even more dynamic and explosive in 2020. And this is the club that led the NFL in total yardage a season ago. Add Lamb to the mix, and America's Team could be downright scary this season.
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Bri said:
I don't think Gallup is elite just good or very good someday. I think Lamb is going to expose this. It might take some time but when Lamb figures out the NFL, I think he's a star. I like this thread title and would otherwise feel it's a bit much but this year he and Jeudy give me that "look out NFL" feel. FF has burned me so many times on rookies, I gotta try to contain my projections and expectations with these two. Once Lamb hits, Gallup is going to be competing with the TE for whatever targets are left over from Lamb, Cooper, and Elliot. 
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That very well be true.....eventually.....but Gallup isn't going anywhere in 2020 and Cooper isn't either.

 
His potential has been a big deal this week on OK/TX radio. It's been a lot of talk of the potential college season and Lamb, every day. The best part is that everyone has a story of seeing him working out doing this or that over the years. There's nothing better than a rookie that everyone loves to tell stories about how much they train. 

I had three drafts this week and he went before Gallup in each one.

I think it's premature, let the guy prove his worth, but...interesting

Michael Irvin lllllllllllloves Lamb and compared the Boys adding him to the Warriors adding Kevin Durant. 

I can't stress enough that it's still premature.

As far as what they discussed on the radio, it goes to what I've been saying all along, what if the three heisman QBs were a result of his play in some degree? But on the radio they were talking ADP, Barry and some others that the best college coaches spent hours n hours trying to stop and couldn't- they put Lamb in that category saying the season's coming up they gotta stop Baker, Murray, Hurts so let's take away this weapon. (Yes apparently the Sooners were undefeated for three years and he started since he came out of the womb, it was a bit much) They spoke of safety over the top, press, bump n hitch (idk what that is) and different techniques teams tried. 

Still it's premature, he hasn't caught a pass.

I love it, but let's not pretend this is abnormal. The whole pandemic ordeal delayed typical things as ya know, but spending a week or so pretending a rookie is the second coming is pretty standard stuff especially as camp opens. You'll notice most rookies got praise this week. They're new and offer this skillset so minds drift to what if. This is a typical dance we do.

Gallup and Cooper didn't vanish. Elliott still catches a number of passes that makes ya wonder what will happen to WR targets in poorly scripted games.

 
Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy said rookie WR CeeDee Lamb will line up on the outside as well as in the slot. 

It's further confirmation that Lamb is locked in as a part of the team's three-wide sets, and that Amari Cooper could see more run from the slot. McCarthy said Lamb would get work as a punt returner, potentially adding to the rookie's appeal in fantasy leagues that count individual return yardage. Lamb, being drafted as the 40th wideout off the board, has upside to spare in Dallas' high-powered offense. 

SOURCE: Michael Gehlken on Twitter 

Aug 15, 2020, 1:22 PM ET
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Dak Prescott on Cowboys camp, getting to know Mike McCarthy, throwing to CeeDee Lamb

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What strikes you most about [rookie receiver] CeeDee Lamb? He’s a smart kid, a smart individual. He’s been picking it all up, whether it’s adjustments from the formations and plays, that hasn’t slowed him down or slowed his game down any bit at all. I mean, he’s just an athletic player. Very, very gifted. Good hands. Has a great feel for the game. I think that’s probably the most impressive thing, to be a young rookie playing in the slot and just have a feel for the game and know where to be. I think that’s going to go a long way and serve him really well in this league.
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I really hate that Dallas has this many weapons...as a Washington whatever we are Fan I just hope the defense is as lousy and underachieving as its been the last decade or two ;)  

 
Holy wow is everything outstanding as far as news on this kid this week

 
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